Practice Erryday Editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqByeM9lw-4https://chordify.net/en/chords/takashi-masuzaki-shadows-blokarts260Resources:>http://www.pianopractice.org/book.pdfFundementals Of Piano Practice by Chuan C. Chang>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUyDmNalB0rjP2anw_332rs8-oJMapOMU>LessonsOnTheWeb YouTube ChannelBasic Piano Chords:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y01jIorpeA Triads>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbK2jtVRM8Seventh chords Part 1>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLhbK9g8yyE Seventh chords Part 2>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDRWDI-m3w Extended Chords (9ths, 11ths, 13ths)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OmqeihOXD4 Altered chords>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQsxM5LPrwc Sus chordsFor composers:>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL341D841389B2FEC7>ArtOfComposing YouTube Playlist "How To Compose Music" (it's a classical approach and good for pianists)Music theory:>https://www.basicmusictheory.com/One of the best sites for everything on chords, keys, scales, and the relationships between them all>https://www.youtube.com/user/RhaptapsodyMichael New's YouTube ChannelNotes:http://www.sightreadingpractice.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?sight&dpt=s&layout=full&r=w.s/&id=31026325146&cr=188-key weighted-keys pianos under 1,000http://www.kraftmusic.com/digital-pianos-and-keyboards/home-pianos/?bundle_product=No&key_num=88&limit=50&price=1%2C1000For workstastions:Generally, Korg, Roland, Yamaha, or KurzweilBudget pianos: Used Privias, M-Audio 88 Hammerkey, Foldable 88 key Glarry if super poorfagProd on keyboards:http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki/Vintage_KeyboardsChord Libraries:https://www.scales-chords.com/chord/piano/Ebmaj7/9https://www.pianochord.org/sound-library.htmlWeb Browser Synth (free):https://midi.city/Post resources, sheet music, synthesia, midi, vocaroos, etc.prev: >>129878692
The last 2 /keys/ went badly, they were made by another anon so I dont count them but here they are: >>129986020 >>130035324
>>130064740>/keys/ - Piano, Synth & Keyboard General>no organs allowedyou will regret this.
I wish i could play / compose multi-genre like Hamauzu man these chords are so soothing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5mPlwitwykmaybe one day with more practice.I had a dream about melody the other day and i took notes as soon as I woke up but it wasnt anything too complex, it was pretty though.>Wandering the Crystal Blue>A new morning>Entwine the design>Make us into a higher beings>Enzyme in real-time>Rebirth>Insight into a better plan>Lift our consciousness into higher Dream Worlds>Give us strength and suffering, In equal measure>Fly~Amaj7 Bm E7 Amaj7Amaj7 Bm E7 Amaj7Bm E7 Bm E7Bm E7 Bm F#7Bm E7 C#m7 F#7Bm E7 Amaj7D E E7
How the fuck does legato even work? If you are playing the notes anyway what is the difference between playing them "smoothly connected"
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>>130065146https://youtu.be/vznSu-BHyVA?si=lRwEvDHhkQLtI3x3&t=2572
holiest of /mu/ threads
>>130065931E#maj7/9https://chordsaround.com/category/extended-chords/maj-9-chords/
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>>130065146https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPw_izFr5PAhttps://vocaroo.com/1byzTnh6IU1Z
>>130064761aw sweet a new thread. couldn't bump the last thread because i was banned for 3 days due to an off-topic thread i made which was bullshit because i was merely uploading tom macdonald's lyric but the replies didn't get it.as for my exercise, i have done fuck all but just fiddled around with my e-sax.
Hey pianofags, guitarfag here. Don't flame me too bad but I just wanted to say that I think it's amazing you piano players can read music for BOTH hands simultaneously. Like seriously, it is impressive. I'm teaching myself to read music on my instrument and I can't get my head around that concept of doing both the bass clef and the treble clef at the same time. My head explodes and I stop dead in my tracks. Is there a trick to this reading wise to process all that's going on at once on both staves in real time? I may be able to peck away at with very focused effort but that's on individual staves first and then going back and trying over and over again. There has to be some kind of Jedi mind trick going on that I just can't seem to grasp. How U do what U do? Just curious.
>>130066531>piano players can read music for BOTH hands simultaneouslya lot of >us are just whinging it, we see chords, arpeggiate it and then maybe add some extended note for flavors. and even if you want to be more precise there's synthesia that can help you do the precise fingering on-beat without going through the hassle of learning how to read sheet music.
>>130066531>Dm7 Cm7 F#m7 Em7 Dm7 Am7 Cm7,>Bm7 D7 Am7 Cm7 Gm7.But then...>Gm7 A7 Fm Em7 Bm7 Dm7>Am7 Cm7>Bm7 Em7Do you know that feel?
>>130066531>Is there a trick to this reading wise to process all that's going on at once on both staves in real time?Noticing patterns instead of reading individual notes and the more you do it, the better you get at it.Reading notation for guitar is wayyy harder with having multiple spots where you can play the same note.
>>130066658>Reading notation for guitar is wayyy harderit's also the same with noticing a pattern and this one doesn't need you to read both staves at the same time
>>130066560>synthesiaThis is an interesting app. Never heard of it before. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.synthesia.synthesia&hl=en-USKind of like a cheat code to learn to play songs. If I played piano, I'd probably use this but I'd be afraid of using it as a crutch long term. See in my world there is Tabs (tablature and of course our common traditional music notation). Tabs allow us to learn songs quickly because it visually tells us where to put our fingers on the fretboard but doesn't convey a lot of rhythm information for example. Long term, it prevents most guitarists from learning to read standard music notation because it's a lot harder to learn. People tend to go to the easy stuff first to get their musical satisfaction fix. So ya, I'm basically a product of this thinking and I'm trying to undo bad habits now. Basically the long way around the mountain. I should have just climbed over the top of it years ago...Anyhow, I appreciate your input. Thank you.
>>130066710synthesia is better on PC or Mac, get it for the computer not as an app. Something u can connect ur usb keyboard to. its a way to make practice way less boring.its guitar hero but for keyboarders.
>>130066531>it's amazing you piano players can read music for BOTH hands simultaneously.maybe the good ones, I do one at a time and then put them together
left hand progression sometimes goes like this>pressing just one note>an octave>an octave with a fifth>root + fifth without an octave>root + 7th note if the chords have it>root + major/minor 3rd + 7th>rootless fingering of just major/minor 3rd + 7th and maybe add some 9th, 11th, 13th if you want it as if your right hand is doing fuck allin the meantime you can arpeggiate them tooi've been watching this breakdown video of jazz fingering and it's been alright. if it's a slow jazz it's not as hard as i thought.
>>130066732Good advice. Thank you.>>130066658This pattern recognition is where I'm hoping I can eventually excel at on just the treble clef. I just don't think my theory knowledge or exposure is good enough yet to know what I don't know yet. We shall see I suppose.>>130066744Nice. I'd probably be in this boat myself. Glad you're gaining experience though with practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgUkRIywJMAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n-RpYqDxUwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wPyFOLdXTE
>>130066795Cool. So ya, I guess I didn't really think of the left hand primarily being the bassist lets say in the band, where the right hand is more the melodic guitar player doing the soloing. So though both are important would the focus be more on the right hand than on the left since the left is doing a lot of the same things over and over again as you mention but with perhaps an additional key change thrown in here and there it's still more repetitive than the left hand doing it's wandering where ever it wants musically.
>>130066851>pattern recognition [...] just the treble clef.It will apply to both. I'm talking patterns of lines and spaces.
the D A chord is so simple and yet it sounds so glittery. A lot of combinations with D A are good.
>>130066855>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wPyFOLdXTEThis song is unironically a good warm up because it goes through almost all the key range.
learn stevie wonder is all i'm saying, a lot of resources out there. if a blind man can do it you can do it
I have tried playing a real physical piano a few times and it felt really good. Like, the keypresse felt physical and it felt like the sound is connected to the act of pressing them physically. Whenever I tried an electronic keyboard, I didn't like it too much. Those feelings were lost. Is there any electronic keyboard that can give this feeling?
>>130067136there is hammerkey keyboards anonman my back hurts in need to go to sleep enough practix4 2dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfDoBy-Qj4Q&t=39s
why would I play keyboard when I can just program it
>>130067483because you aint even good at programming itlearn theory and git gud faggit
>cuck programmeri need to input the notes one by one, i need to make sure each of them has to be on-beat, i have to pick from thousands of patch i should use for my sound aiieeeee>chad playerCmaj9#11 go brrrrr
>obsolete player>needs multiple takes to be on time>fingers get weak, flesh is limiting>can't even play rush e
>>130067720yeah exactly lol his take was so dumb it doesn't even need to be taken seriouslythe best programming possible is usb keyboard that can make midi and git gud thats it. arguably AI set on "Jazz" if you are uninspired and you KNOW how to follow the progression yourself because AI still makes a lot of mistakes, but it comes up with nice parts here n there. But to know what can fit as a follow up you need theory there is no ways around getting gud. Keys is already as acoustic and as electronic as it can be the music however cannot make itself it needs a creative mind that understands how music works.
>>130067720>i need to make sure each of them has to be on-beat,This is wrong and would be a proponent for programming.
>>130067788They need to feel better about dedicating their life to something that a computer can do with some basic mouse skills and a free afternoon.
>>130067841dont you have your own general?
>>130067841>he thinks we piano fags don't use computerslol, lmao even>he thinks we are cavemen just because he doesnt own a midi controllerYou are more limited than us in fact. Much more. What you say you can do we can do it faster.I dont have to imput the chord 1 key at a time and click each one of them to play at the same time. I done that btw it sucks, its such a slow way to come up with melody. The programmer fag is a retard, just buy a fucking midi controller 88 keys preferably.
impressed some zoomer chicks by playing rush e on a public piano
>impressed>zoomer>rush e>public pianoIt's like you named everything I hate in one post.
>>130068202if you play Zelda songs Boomers and normies think its Bach. Normies are seriously that ignorant and retarded. And i dont even mean dungeon themes or Ganondorf's theme which do sound like Bach. I mean literally the Lydian intro.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEEfp8OqgHo
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>>130069381Nearly every single zelda song is ripped off from somewherehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M36JK5w0Byg
>>130069648based this sounds greatbut thats a bit unfair a lot of classically trained Japanese pianists were educated on Chopin extensively including Hamauzu and I bet Umatsu too.Chopin is that good, if you want to learn to play beautiful that is. He is like the core of beautiful playing. Bach is more so what now is seen as "Gothic Church" music, boss music, Castlevania, Vampires, Darkness, etc.
>>130066531Reading sheet music is harder on guitar, it requires you to consider which string to play on, and the positions you play don't map as easily to the sheet music.Reading sheet music on piano is actually pretty simple and "optimal" - if you ignore flats and sharps, sheet music maps to the keyboard so well that it functions almost like tablature. Notes go up, you go up keyboard, notes go down, you go down.For me what helps reading two staves (or more - I've played organ in the past with an additional pedal staff) is:>shortcuts in reading : if you see several notes going up stepwise, don't read them all individually : read the first note, then just go up the scale)>being able to recognize certain intervals by their shape (thirds, fourths, fifths, octaves)>being able to recognize the basic chord inversion shapes (tightly packed = root inversion, bigger gap on top = first inversion, bigger gap bottom = second inversion, two notes next to each others somewhere = probably an inversion of a seventh chord, etc)>having a good enough knowledge of harmony and song forms to know what chords and alterations to expect in a given piece (if reading a classical piece in A minor I know i'm gonna be seeing G# somewhere, and then later I'm probably gonna see some D# and F# because the piece is probably gonna transpose to E minor, etc)>knowing enough accompaniment techniques to be able to identify them at a glance ("oh, this is a left hand arpeggio", or "this is an alberti bass", etc)
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>>130069880E sus4 is gud
>>130069880sus chords can be fun for some particular voicing when you're bored with playing major or minor all the time. you can also use it for your left hand fingering so your right hand can be even wilder like playing 9th and/or 13th
>>130070135That's a Keith Richards open G riff
I am grateful for this general
>>130067230don't buy m-audio it's cheap shit>t. m-audio owner
>>130071250Glarry is actually the cheapest you can go
What about ear training?
>>130066438What is good and bad about midi wind instruments?>>130066560Wing - to do in the flyWhine/whining - complaining Whinge/Whinging - gay man expression
>>130066710You really want a gk3 pickup and a DI-10 Roland hexaphonic to midiThen you will get the two in the same headspace one you use it to track shit in a DAW.
>>130071389>What is good and bad about midi wind instrumentsFingering wise they should be exact same with the actual sax and they're not loud so it's good if you live in dorm or some small space but they're also an entirely different instrument than the actual sax. If you perform with it in front of the people, it's pretty much keyboard sound with sax fingering.
>>130071343>what about ear trainingListen to the note or chord over and over until it becomes super familiar to you.
>>130064740I love this korean dude's determination:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnsc8dU5GAwhe really is practicing every day
>>130069774Thanks Anon. Your green shortcuts are very helpful. I know enough in my limited notation studies about these concepts but haven't yet realized that these are the types of things to really pay attention to in order to get faster at recognition. The books don't usually say in big bold letters PAY ATTENTION here because this is a speed trick and will save you stress and time in the future. They just kind of introduce the concept but don't really emphasize the application and the benefits of why it's so important. Or maybe this is where a teacher would chime in and say... Pay attention to this to save time and effort kind of thing. I think with guitar reading I've not really explored yet reading in the upper registers of the fretboard to try and figure out which "C" they're referring to at any point in time since it can be played in multiple spots. I'm still at first position learning. I've recently obtained a book that starts me reading at 5th position reading and I think this will begin to expose me to upper fretboard reading and determination of which notes to play based on physical layout and geography for lack of better term. I still find it all mind-blowing though and maybe one day it will all make more sense. But right now it's all like voodoo.Anyhow TL;DR but thank you for your input. :)
Why doesn't Synthesia let you change the tempo you're playing at? Seems like a no-brainer of a feature.
>>130072438it doesn't?
>>130072458nvm I'm blind wtf
>>130072438https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWBTihldIm8&t=136
I like 70s rock, recommend me an ampI know it's going to be a Marshall but which one that won't break the bank, I won't be performing live with it just recording.
>>130072651/gg/ is in a different aisle
>>130072651you can get one of those cables that connects directly to the computer right? that doesnt burn the computer down, something compatible and you can record your guitar noise into the computer. im pretty sure something like that must exist.
>>130064761Why does it matter who bakes? at this point it could be a bot.
>>130072940it doesn't matter but the OP image matters, if its Mr. Bean less people are going to take it seriously.And its good to show a piano so people know its about the piano.There is more guitar fags than piano fags on /mu/ by far so I make sure these threads appear only on the weekend or around the weekend. There is no need to always have a /keys/ thread up. Most threads would die off before reaching 100 replies if we do that.
It takes like a couple days of memorization to read sheet music, I dont know why so many people still depend on synthesia.
>>130073128synthesia makes sheet music too after you feed it midi you can learn both in fact you should learn both. Because there is music that is only possible to get on sheets.I will have to learn sheets one day. Its laziness from my part thats all.
>>130073145Yeah you should learn from both but its way easier to learn from reading music. You can literally just do a couple minutes of exercise a day and be able to read it fast enough to learn in no time.https://www.musictheory.net/exercises/note
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>>130071765>the magicianEbmaj7/9
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What do you guys think about pitch correction on vocals?My favorite era of music is mostly 70s stuff with "raw" vocals like Led Zeppelin, Bowie - or even Cobain from the 90s - but I have no way of knowing what they touched up for the final product. I have to assume not much since there are certain imperfections which are incredibly endearing & unique to me.I guess the only way to know how I feel about it is to record myself singing over a track
>>130075668Depends what kind of music it is, if its synth heavy then its perfectly fine but if you are making something raw and gritty then no
>>130075731lol actually meant to post this in /prod/ but thanks
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>>130075668Of course i think pitch correction (T°T)## is good.But alas make sure the music you make sounds good, come up with a melody in the 1st place. Thats top priority.
>>130064740I hate when you guys post walls of text that no one is going to go through in the OP
>>130072940it don't matter just make sure everyone recognizes the threads.
>>130079187Tradition vs Practical Modernityo algoI guess we just accept it as useful due to repetition.
the warm up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCLSEVQ_mhIsomething ez but beautiful for the plebs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUpJXcqPkzkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b7ZWKQAuwcI like this one personally, the song of Barry:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3u__yP1b6Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWPuBaH5WcAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdT_-8VAno8
https://youtu.be/wmY-oRdlkkw?si=JBoz0lQ39Mb-0cua simple but it werks, i'm more of a singer who plays keys anyway
>>130079758>i'm more of a singer who plays keys anywaylike yelyah
>>130079758Ever checked the swam virtual instruments they are pretty good & sound hi-quallity and its all controlled by a midi key controller
>>130082818can you stop shilling swam i swear i keep getting these replies from you, i'm not planning to add more gear than what i already have
anyone else horrifically lazy? 90% of my piano playing is just going to ultimate guitar and improvising and refining an arrangement from the chords from songs I enjoyI should really learn to actually read music past one note melodies but I feel like a dyslexic even attempting it
>>130082876you can try Yes' or ELP's songs if you want to be challenged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i40O86ZR6Fw stevie wonder is such an insane composer because dude just modulated for the sake of it and so you got this thing where he modulated like 4 times and he had to play all the chords while being blind.
>>130083676Yeah jazz mfs are goodIts a good base for that