Duruflé editionhttps://youtu.be/Z1Wx87CtFPQThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>130085936
>>130102416Wieland's productions were post-war and lasted through the 60s. He died in '66
>>130102447and he was a nazi, what's your point
Holy shit
i want Durufle's Requiem at my funeral
>>130102881My point is that he was well liked during the twilight of his life and ran the productions at post-war Bayreuth for nearly 20 years. And that subversive productions didn't really have their genesis because of him and his relationship with Hitler, and was hardly exclusive to Wagner anyways.
>>130103230>during the twilight of his lifewhile og nazis were still around and relatively active, what's your point
>>130103284>And that subversive productions didn't really have their genesis because of him and his relationship with Hitler, and was hardly exclusive to Wagner anyways.
>>130103358>source: trust me bro
>>130103373Practically ever composer / opera has had subversive productions now. Did all of them have their genesis because of a connection to Hitler?
>>130103385no, just wagner as has already been established
(hiss) Tristan nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwfOlE9YCm8&list=OLAK5uy_ncXOYMV-IbfH4XeamUoYeLdbdhJyDZdyM&index=1
Wagner's Tristan und Isolde is either a ripoff of Liszt's Faust Symphony or vice versahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKjswVRxq4
Schumann's best solo piano work is... Fantasie in C major? Davidsbündlertänze? Kreisleriana? Carnaval? Études Symphoniques? Kinderszenen? the Piano Sonata in G minor? Waldszenen?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C48L65xIDLs
>>130103510Wagner was always ripping Liszt off
>>130103533Even stole his offspring!
finna travel back in time and force Prokofiev to compose a Nocturnes piano cycle at gunpointWhich I guess would sound pretty close to his Visions Fugitives but a bit more concretehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NULqcv6j1Ic
>>130103401So every other composer had the same thing happen to them around the same time, but just Wagner's were specifically targeted because, according to you, Wieland and Hitler were buds
>>130103654Why are you seriously engaging with such a low-effort interlocutor?
>>130103654it's called a trend, sweaty, look it up>>130103665cry harder, waggot
3 more weeksIn the meantime, Luisi has this two hour Preludes and Overtures recordinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va-EYRJd4xM&list=OLAK5uy_lHb8wvfJXYD_W4tE6WG7NO5Y_SwJVPt8Q&index=1
continuing with Claude Frank's Beethoven piano sonatas cycle5thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Leda5Wsh888&list=OLAK5uy_moYMz31N2nGudyFBCfkyLu5-7iD7S6UDo&index=2015thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjJ0qbCTx1c&list=OLAK5uy_moYMz31N2nGudyFBCfkyLu5-7iD7S6UDo&index=2326thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exqz5wzCUcU&list=OLAK5uy_moYMz31N2nGudyFBCfkyLu5-7iD7S6UDo&index=26
Where are you supposed to meet fellow amateur classical musicians with whom to play chamber music?All I want to do is make music with other people, but I'm am engineer and I don't know anybody.Do I need to go back to school to major in music performance just to be able to meet people?>>130103531>KinderszenenTraumerei is one of my favorite pieces for piano.>>130103627>Visions FugitivesVery neat. I never thought of Prokofiev as a solo piano composer, so I never listened to him... although I think I may have listened to and enjoyed one of his violin sonatas.
>>130104682Going back to college seems like the nuclear option. Some things I would try first: go to concerts and talk to people during intermission or afterwards, ask private teachers if any of their students would be interested, post on your city's facebook page or bulletin boards if those still exist, ask your friends if they know anyone who plays an instrument other than you.
>>130104844>ask private teachers if any of their students would be interested,I'm a 40 y/o unc... that might be a bit creepy.>friends(._. )
>>130104862Just check the teacher's website to see if they advertise specifically for adults, I know that at least for piano there has been a bit of a boom in so-called adult beginners the last few years.
>>130102910Rach's Chopin sonata 2 is one of the best recordings ever made and it's not even close.
>>130104903>at least for pianoUnfortunately, I am the pianist.I have been thinking about learning flute or violin. Maybe that'll work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vy3_dILBKc
>>130104935That's because he has large hands that can play the Db major 10ths without rolling/breaking them.
>>130104945It's not just the large hands. It's his expressiveness in general. His voicing. His performances always leave you wondering if it's just 1 piano playing or multiple at once, e.g. the 2nd theme in the first movement, or the development section. Listen to the funeral march, he ignores Chopin's dynamic and tempo markings in the return of the main theme, a bold choice, yet it absolutely works and leaves a stronger impression. And the finale is where it gets absolutely insane, the crescendo at the end is the most spinechilling, scary crescendos I've ever heard. He really put his entire soul into this performance and no one comes even close.
>>130102427finally a good thread
>>130105136I like Brahms more, but Durufle is an objectively better composer.
>>130105347The man has like two pieces, the Requiem and motets, c'mon.
Watched an interview with Lukas Ligeti where he said in the 90s when he was living in Vienna him and his dad would make cassette mixtapes with the music they were currently into and send it to each other and i thought that was wholesome.
>>130105504Ligeti more like spaghetti lmfaoo
>>130105545
>>130102881a national socialist you mean
>>130105504Neat. Filled with classical or pop/rock too?
>Mascagni—Cavalleria RusticanaMeh.
>>130103531Funny how you mention everything except his actual best solo piano workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCJ8atkdIIk
Mompou needs more love.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r5H7sGkI7kFuck him for writing some giant chords though.
>>130102427 is the Koechlin shill here? thanks, anyway. His piano works really are a hidden gem.
How to get into Strauss if I like Mahler? Supposedly they're similar in lots of ways, but the couple of things of Strauss' I've tried haven't really clicked. Till Eulenspiegel was fun, but I can't listen to it on repeat like I do Mahler.
>>130105784>KoechlinGod damn. I took piano lessons until I was 18 and continued to study on my own and this is the first I've heard of this guy. So far so good.Thank you, sir.
>>130105803read Hugo Leichtentritt.
>>130105803I have the opposite problem. I like Strauss but Mahler grinds my gears.
now playingstart of Mahler: Symphony No. 5 in C-Sharp Minorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsL_ntMxhkM&list=OLAK5uy_nPUjUcIB8t0zF10F2vKl_KXIi2d4cl3MM&index=1https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nPUjUcIB8t0zF10F2vKl_KXIi2d4cl3MM>After their critically-acclaimed recording of Mahler’s Fourth Symphony, the Czech Philharmonic and Semyon Bichkov continue their Pentatone Mahler cycle with a rendition of the composer’s Fifth. The Fifth Symphony marks an important turning point in Mahler’s symphonic output, away from the prominence of vocal movements in his previous symphonies. And whereas the Fifth seems to follow a teleology from darkness to light like its predecessors, the trajectory is much less straightforward, and full of enigmatic turns. Bichkov’s exceptional eye for detail and pacing make him an ideal guide through this work, while the Czech Philharmonic is capable of letting all the colours of Mahler’s score shine.
why isn't this new DG Hrusa/Bamberger Martinu symphony cycle on YouTube Music yet? According to Amazon it was released ten days ago. Come on!Instead I'll post a movement from the 2nd symphony from Belohlavek's solid cycle to build hypehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BOFRBLOs_g&list=OLAK5uy_lHBzSQfkpXtAWKW3QpoERaQLy_IhgfYQE&index=6
>>130105803There's nothing to 'get into'. Strauss' music, in my opinion, is incredibly visceral and immediate. It's not intellectual, it's not dense, it's not something you have to get used to. You just listen and the melodies and sonic power either grips you or it doesn't.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFmlD85SQdIIf the above piece doesn't sound amazing and gripping to you right off the bat, I really don't know what to say.One morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OkgIkDYV64
>>130106587>There's nothing to 'get into'. Strauss' music, in my opinion, is incredibly visceral and immediate. It's not intellectual, it's not dense, it's not something you have to get used to.I think that's an exaggeration. It's not like Strauss doesn't offer a great deal to intellectual appreciation in form and harmony. Just because it does not preclude easy enjoyment does not mean it is not dense. My appreciation of Strauss has always increased as I've studied music theory.
>>130106713True, you're right.
>>130105739He did mention fantasy in C major though? Thay's not just his best piano work, but the greatest piano work besides some of the Chopin works.Didnc't Schumann himself dismiss Humoresque as a piece for little girls?
>>130106713>>130106785There really is no classical composer who doesn't offer intellectual appreciation. Some put that intellectual expression into harmony, others in melody, form, orchestration, sonority, counterpoint, etc. To say that one is intellectual expression and the other isn't, is incredibly dishonest.
This is extremely creepy in a Freudian way, ngl.>writes an opera where the characters stuck in a loveless marriage are named after his parents, Sam and Dinah>Sam is a womanizing and self centered asshole while Dinah is pure and innocent and just wants something more >neither of them go to “junior’s play” (a metaphor for Sam not caring about Bernstein’s operas/ musical/ performances in general)>writes a sequel in the 80s to this opera where Dinah dies and Sam officially apologizes to his children for being abuse and neglectful
The Five Greatest Classical Performing Musicians of All TimeMaria CallasLeonard BernsteinPablo CasalsArthur RubinsteinJascha Heifetzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zStEtATbnA
am I a pseud if I only listen to classical because I like how it sounds? I don't want to analyse anything to appreciate it, I want to integrate it into my memory and soul
>>130107379>Leonard Bernstein>Arthur Rubinstein>Jascha HeifetzReally interesting choices, I wonder why he chose them. [spoiler]Only Heifetz is justified.[/spoiler]
>>130107379Buy an ad
>>130107781>Only Heifetz is justifiedkek tru. Only Heifetz, Casals and Callas are justified. Instead of Rubinstein it should've been Hofmann or Friedman imho, and instead of Bernstein - Furtwängler
Why aren't you listening to Scriabin?
Why aren't you listening to Palestrina anons?
>>130107980Based.
>>130105586I assume both, whatever they were into at the moment; Lukas said that's how he got so into african music, because there was some on the tapes his dad sent him. And i said 90s but this was actually in the 80s when Lukas was studying composition in Vienna.
>>130106993Funny! But no, Humoreske is superior.>Didnc't Schumann himself dismiss Humoresque as a piece for little girls?Schumann was bipolar and schizophrenic, so I wouldn't take anything he said too seriously. Also, it doesn't really matter what the composer thought.
>>130107725You're fine, anon.
>>130108223>FunnyThe truth tends to be funny, indeed.
>>130108167AVE
>>130107946It’s because I feel like he looks like an sinister, melancholic Victorian Uncle- who has a sinister possibly incestuous plot to steal my inheritance
does solely listening to operas takes away too much?
My favorite Goldberg Variations and WTC are the Keith Jarrett ones.
>>130109677It looks like it sounds
>>130103510Wow I wasn't expecting this to be so good. I guess I'm a Liszt fan now.
Vaughan Williams insisted on the traditional English pronunciation of his first name: "Rafe" (/reJf/); Ursula Vaughan Williams said that he was infuriated if people pronounced it in any other way.
I don't usually come to this general because /mu/ is a hellhole full of teenagers and unironic trannies, but this is the last place that can possibly help me at this point.Do any of you know what painting is in this album cover of Karajan's Missa Solemnis recording? I tried asking the slop but it kept giving me wrong answers (last time i will ever use this demonic shit), and reverse image search results were just the same album cover and no solo painting.
>>130110164It's a painting of Beethoven
>>130110164it looks like an adaption of a 1918 portrait of beethoven by an artist named jan fekkes, probably done for the album coverhttps://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/collectie/object/---030a098bdeabdba98d57fa042098dd7b
>>130110164what the hell is an ironic tranny?
thoughts?
>>130110164actually, i painted it
>>130110164>trannies>demonicFuck off you dumb chud and never come here.
>>130110659Good. Always call out chuds when you see them
>>130110304Danke brother. I expected there to be an exact version of that specific piece of artwork so i'm dissapointed. But that painting you've linked to is the closest one i've found to the album cover so i am thankful.>>130110565What i meant by that is that there are people here on 4chinks who will accuse anyone they dislike to be a tranny, so by "unironic tranny" i mean actual mentally ill men who believe themselves to be women (which are plentiful in this board, especially on the Gaypop generals.)
>>130110677Cheers, anon.>>130110719>so by "unironic tranny" i mean actual mentally ill men who believe themselves to be womenPerhaps consider posting this bigoted garbage over at >>>/pol/?
>>130110659dilate, abomination you belong at hiphop threads, not Classical music generals
>>130110677you can piss off too>>130110750calling him a made up word won't make him less right about you lunatics
this is a trans-friendly general
>>130110973
Wagner sisters I have an idea!Lets make a petition to make the Tannhauser overture a Trans HymnWho is with me?
>>130111114ywnbaw
>>130110930Sounds like you're from a hiphop general you retarded chud.>>130110938All words are made up, retarded chud.
>>130102427Nig looks like a hypnotist
>>130111272he's obviously doing a bit you fucking idiot
>>130109677Not for me but a lot of people seem to like them, so I respect it.
>>130110143And then there's beta me who goes by an Americanized mispronunciation of my own first name. Props, Ralph.
>>130110612Fine, not great, but I'm currently going through Idil Biret's discography so my opinion is subject to change. I've always found her to be a rather budget, mediocre pianist. I've never heard a recording from her that I thought was among the best of the piece, and many times they were actually pretty bad. Her Chopin is award-winning though, so clearly some people thought she was good.
>>130110101Yeah it's fantastic. If only Liszt wrote less symphonic poems and more symphonies!
>>130110612>Russian composer other than MAYBE Scriabinit's shit
People here are often asking for some Chinese classical, so here ya gohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4qIuL4P5Vw&list=OLAK5uy_kmLgM2cc3qJSViec-Z34tlBwR6Qs1t26s&index=1
>>130111521>other than MAYBE ScriabinHave you ever listened to Medtner?s m h
>>130111613>MedtnerThat's gonna be a big yikes from me.
Did Liszt actually take Chopin's butthole?
>when I listen to a great hisstorical recording"damn, sometimes the tradeoff between audio quality for a good performance is worth it">when I listen to a great modern recording"damn, why bother with inferior audio quality when modern recordings with perfect production exist?"man i'm such a prisoner of the moment
>>130111552I like Dee Znuts he's good
>>130111673Yeah he was way better in every way,
>>130110659they kinda are..
>>130111337Why is he looking at me like that
Is singing over an orchestral accompaniment technically counterpoint?
>>130111939No but that is an idea they have been pushing lately
Tonight’s offering: Debussyhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YouRcBRkb6o&list=RDYouRcBRkb6o&start_radio=1&pp=ygUxRGVidXNzeSBzdHJpbmcgcXVhcnRldCByb2JlcnQgbWFubiBqdWlsbGlhcmQgMTk4OaAHAQ%3D%3D
>>130112222>one critic described it as "a new manifestation of the prevalent lack of form"oh if only they could see the future
Thoughts on Robert Greenberg?
>>130111939I think you're confusing counterpoint with polyphony
Which Lieder ohne Worte should I listen to?
>>130112529Barenboim. But while you're doing that, I might check out this Szokolay recording.Barenboimhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9DECFy-ZrE&list=OLAK5uy_m2-f7JZZnKmSr-sQN3N6F5kCmGTJGnvfs&index=1Szokolay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-PGWqUEXhE&list=OLAK5uy_lh5ObTxf424ogwXRQ1zMb2K2pKIF9Tc5o&index=3Whichever of these sounds better to you. Igor Levit also has a pretty solid selected pieces recording, but for recommendations, I almost always defer to complete sets over partial/selected/excerpt/highlight sets.
>past week (168 hours)>past week playing time of artist: Richard Wagner (120 hours)fughttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjR54_r6jyw&list=OLAK5uy_mnsm4T-64P2laU9NVxDL0MmK4qbDNAywE&index=70
>>130112529Alpenheim or Kyriakou
>>130112642neither of those are real anon come onI kid.
Anyone wanna attend the Seattle Symphony with me on Thursday?https://www.seattlesymphony.org/en/concerttickets/calendar/2025-2026/25sub18>Two prodigies, Mozart and Rossini, meet on this program, each of them writing brilliant music with almost unbelievable speed. Rossini's Italian Girl in Algiers (the whole opera!) was composed in less than a month and was a big hit. Its overture sets the scene for exotic locales, hilarity and dramatic love. Principal Clarinet Benjamin Lulich is our featured soloist in Mozart’s Clarinet Concerto, some of the most sublime music ever written. When commissioned to write another symphony at a moment’s notice and “up to his eyeballs” in work, Mozart set to reworking his “Haffner” Serenade. The eventual result was this celebratory 35th Symphony, aka the Haffner Symphony, presented in this program. And alongside it, Mozart's 39th Symphony bubbles with dance-like rhythms and lightness.conducted by one Xian Zhang
>>130112438I like that string quartet quite a lot. As you have put it it is par for the course of string quartets nowadays though at that time its structure was probably more shocking. It is like Pierre Menard with his Quixote. He can’t write Quixote or experience the work as a 20th c creation because it isn’t one. It’s creation is of the 16th c (or whichever century Cervantes lived under) and it stands against previous knightly romances as a 16th c work not a 20th c one.Tl;Dr- that was a nice (and once scandalous) Debussy piece
Kapustin is in the same league as Bach.
Constant Lambert’s Rio Grande and Horoscope Suite, recorded in 1949 and 1945https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QMHiGUQjPyc&list=RDQMHiGUQjPyc&start_radio=1&pp=ygUbQ29uc3RhbnQgbGFtYmVydCByaW8gZ3JhbmRloAcBhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=auVuSDYEMs8&list=RDauVuSDYEMs8&start_radio=1&pp=ygUlQ29uc3RhbnQgbGFtYmVydCBob3Jvc2NvcGUgc3VpdGUgMTk0OaAHAdIHCQnUCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D
>>130112732Yeah it's a masterpiece. Shame he didn't write more, like the review hints at.
>>130112222Checked and 18:44 is where it should have ended there's no need for what comes after
>>130109677I listened to that recording once and posted it here. Everyone roasted me so I haven't listened to it again since.
>>130112957The very first movement is by far my favorite. I enjoy how strong the main theme is initially (all the other parts have those notes played very subtly but first few minutes is like DUH! DUH! Buh buh DUH DUH!)
>>130112791indeed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pprwR1VYmbU
>>130112958>Everyone roasted me This place can be ruthless about some interpreters
>>130113258He's because he's a Jazz pianist. So no one wants to think a Jazz pianist can do Bach better, whether or not it's true.
>>130112958I'm surprised no one is roasting that Anon this time because that recording is indeed crap
>>130112222Why is he so perfect bros? I only like Bach and Scriabin more, but even those two have material I want to skip over, not the monsieur. Everything he wrote from his early primitive pieces like his melodies to his late abstract works like Jeux and the etudes have this perfection about them that not a lot of composers were able to achieve in 50+ years.
real music: italians, germans, austrians, hungarians, norwegianscope: french, russians, japanese, czhechians, polish, spanish, americans
>>130113447kinda based for not even bothering to mention the british isles and the netherlands.>inb4 muh beatles and muh sweelinckutterly pathetic.
>>130113447>austrians, hungarians, norwegiansBait needs to be defensible and believable>>130113490>NetherlandsJacob Obrecht, Josquin and Ockeghem alone destroy the Hungarians and Norwegians combined.>>130113264Or maybe because its shit and Keith Jarrett should only stick to his Jazz lane?
>>130113537fuck off, clog nigger.
>the Wagner spammer is D*tch.further proof that Amsterdam needs to be nuked.
>>130113537Dogma should be defensibleRitual should be repeatableLiturgy should be legibleBelief should be beautifulWhat fulfils these conditions in the decadent modern world in which "God is Dead"? Answer: the holy poetry of Richard Wagner and his "Sacred Festival Stage Play" which transforms and supersedes religion.https://youtu.be/yF0pwSC7qWg?list=PL_Cf5Xxn5OZY1gE9zsWHAjXz6MVz9IZYS
>>130113447Norwegians only have the one guy Grieg. They barely even count. Also it’s probably not the type of music many in this general like (early 20th c waltz music) but I like Zdenek Liska’s scores a lot.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tPhnDLv_oAsHe did lots of scores, everything from waltzes to early electronic music.
>>130113541fuck off mongol nigger, you only have Liszt and Bartok, the Czechs have a better tradition than you do even if Dvorak is a nigger lover.>>130113556I just used his meme, but I wouldn't mind you guys calling him The Flying Dutchman from now on>>130113567Oh shit I summoned him my bad guys
>Sinding had suffered from severe senile dementia since the late 1930s. Eight weeks before his death in 1941, Sinding joined the Norwegian Nazi party, Nasjonal Samling - however, his membership card was unsigned. The Nazis had strong motivation to recruit Sinding, as he was tremendously popular before the war in both Norway and Germany. Following the liberation of Norway at the end of World War II, it was official practice for the national broadcasting system to boycott people seen as Nazi sympathisers. As a consequence, Sinding's post-war reputation in Norway became relatively obscure. The circumstances surrounding the composer's membership continue to raise controversy. Sinding had made several remarks against the Nazi occupation. He had fought for the rights of Jewish musicians during the early 1930s and was a close friend of Nordahl Grieg.[13][14]sadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogxm5psQcxs
>>130113594Okay, sorry. You actually have two composers apparently. This dude and Grieg.
>>130113620Now they can go toe to toe with the Hungarians
Parsifal nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvd0Gyyvrag&list=OLAK5uy_mOasPkupo04bPk7BWOpnpuHNAjCuWwHB8&index=1
Beethovenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1JJWFFP5c&list=OLAK5uy_lQ-7sN1NEYDfWZJyByAPGpOksm7tzdSo8&index=10
now playingstart of Scarlatti: Selected Sonatashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQMmCvx9XTA&list=OLAK5uy_nyib9ABopMcCCmq5CSmWEBeRYO7LfsREo&index=2start of Rachmaninoff: Etudes-Tableaux, Op. 39https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfTLHOO3ko8&list=OLAK5uy_nyib9ABopMcCCmq5CSmWEBeRYO7LfsREo&index=7https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyib9ABopMcCCmq5CSmWEBeRYO7LfsREoScarlatti with Rachmaninoff is an usual pair but it works here. Craig Sheppard's album covers are always so amateurishly wholesome, hopefully I get to meet him someday as he also lives in the Pacific Northwest.
>>130113568Norway gets a high ranking because Grieg was one of the greatest composers who ever lived. It's a similar case with Finland and Sibelius but Sweden has no one unless you count fucking ABBA, lol.
>>130113447>>130114444The actual music would only include polish in the real music, becauee Chopin is the GOAT.
J.S.Bach and Genghis Khan were direct descendants of Modu Chanyu.
>>130114444A good comparison is Swedish cinema. When people say Swedish cinema is great they mean only Ingmar Bergman is great and maybe MAYBE victor seastrom and Mauritz Stiller.
>>130114668three major figures is a lot from a country with that population
>>130108423Not really, no. The truth hurts.
>>130113407>Bach, Scriabin, DebussyIncredibly based taste.
>>130114475dumbest post of all time
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHcFT0V2ayI
>>130106587My problem is that all of his stuff I've listened to feels fragmentary to me. I don't sense a throughline and my attention starts to wander, the whole thing leaves the impression of a soup of (beautiful) orchestral noise. I just tried relistening to Zarathustra and came away with exactly this feeling.
>>130115362Nice, only heard some of his string quartets
>>130115426you are severely melanated.
>>130115426>My problem is that all of his stuff I've listened to feels fragmentary to meWell, they are tone poems and not symphonies, after all.
Koechlinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQs8uvx3PAM
>>130114796Bach(1750) and before(1150), Ives(1874) and after(1945) my friend
>>130116735>>130114796if you can't enjoy the Classical era you quite simply failed the test and don't TRULY appreciate music
