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Guys what's the best way to burn down my house/apartment/condo/multi use building? I only have $900 which I assume would get me about 14Ah? If anyone dies, and I sure hope they do, it's ok because >muh cars or some shit also >muh boomers.

"""e-bikes""" = CANCER

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As someone new to this board who's looking to buy a bike/e-bike can someone explain to me the absolute uncontrollable hate they have here?

I live in a mostly flat area and don't need anything fancy, at most my bike route would be about ~20 miles max. I live in the midwest and it's mostly flat but just want a semi decent e-bike for pedal assist during the insane wind we can get here around Sioux Falls. Seems like every time I research something reviews on YT, bike places, plebbit, etc come up fairly positive. I only come here because I don't want to sign up for gay forums and go through the process just to post a question.

Every post seems to be the following
>uhh if it's not 2k it will explode
>powerleveling about how it's not a real bike
>yikes chink shit, get something with sticker not chink shit but still made in china
>just don't... (no further explanation)
>directed to /o/ for a car instead

Like don't you guys do any casual biking around town? Not everything has to be tour de france or can climb Everest as a bike.

>>1975643
I'm not an /n/ regular but I used to be an e-bike hater myself. It's entirely due to the mindset of seeing cycling as a sport and not a practical means of transportation why people hate on them. I heard about e-bikes years ago but dismissed them as a fad for lazy people. I thought anything but a road bike/MTB was stupid or cheating. Since I started commuting and hauling cargo I have become a an avid e-bike enthusiast. Even the argument that they are not sporting is stupid since you can just put it on low PAS and pedal harder.

>>1975643
>>1975643
There's also e-bike haters within the e-bike crowd. Currently there is a gulf between Chinese/DIY e-bikes and western brick and mortar store bikes. E.g $4k Specialized e-bike vs $1k Aliexpress fatbike. The people paying 4-5x the price for the same performance need to justify it by trashing the Chinese/DIY bikes. Some of their arguments against the Chinese bikes are valid, they do catch fire and use cheap parts etc but the fact that you can build a quality commuter with a branded donor bike and Bafang/CYC drive shows that the pre-built options are massively overpriced. I think the e-bike bubble will pop soon and people will be wondering why no-one wants to pay $5k for their Riese + Muller bike on FB marketplace.

>>1975657
I agree.

Problem is over here 90% of e-bikes i see are enduro style MTBs, not commuters.

People use them on sundays to go up mountains where you never saw a cyclist before, annoying hikers when climbing up (assisted up to 25km/h), and endangering everyone when going downhill fast af with those fat 29" tires and 130mm suspension.

That is what people are hating here.

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>>1975657
I'm not against using your legs to pedal by any means, I've owned a few in the past and loved it. Though after a day's work or grabbing some food, having to bike for 5 miles directly into 15-25mph winds, kinda takes the fun out of the ordeal. For me owning a car just isn't practical when my max range of travel is about a 12 mile radius before I end up well into farmland.

>>1975662
I have image, it's not bad. I get the exploding meme but I don't leave it plugged in 24/7 like some idiots I've heard who suffered gravely. I can understand the cope for those big ass wanna be motorcycle looking things, but man for getting around town sometimes a pedal assist on an ultra windy day or just a long day is worth it.

>>1975563
>>1975581
>>1975627
You will never know the joy of booze cruising up the hill after spending the evening with your boys and not even breaking a sweat.

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Can you still trick modern bosch/shimano motors by placing the magnet on the crank or do the newer firmware detect this?

>>1975554
Bought one for 5k in 2022 and sold it like 3 months later because it felt weird and my prefered power output/cadence lays above the 25km/h cutoff so it was totally pointless to haul all the extra weight.
Uphills just got boring because the satisfaction of conquering something with your own power went away.
Curvy singletrails and downhills felt shitty because of the massive weight. Felt like hauling a motorcycle down a hill.
Wouldnt recommend it for people who just like roadbiking/mountainbiking.
Only get one as a commuter in hilly terrain or as an e-cargo bike if you really have to haul shit on a bike and dont have a car.

>>1975790
Why didn't you just derestrict it?

>>1975657
Or maybe just maaaaaaybe some people want to not literally DIAF but sure, muh lycra groomers

>>1975807
I did for like 2 weeks.
But i didnt use it for commuting or getting groceries.
And it kinda takes all the fun from mountainbiking

>>1975643
>can someone explain to me the absolute uncontrollable hate they have here?
It's elitism mixed with jealousy. Road bikers have very fragile egos. Their talent is to make bikes go fast, so it's only natural that they'd feel threatened by ebikes.

>>1976045
Or the fact that they're all bike noobs that block the roads as if they were dog walkers wearing airpods. At least they're getting better every year.

t. Owns both

>>1976063
>roll the red
>cageoids go ballistic and scream about "cheating"
>don't roll the red
>cagers go ballistic when they're stuck behind me
>roll the red
>3/4 of the way to the next light
>cageoid ragehonks at me so I let him go so he can rush to wait at the light
>wave at the cageoid at the next light as he seethes in impotent rage
>turn right on red because not even oinkers care about that
>cageoid malds with seethe that I cheated again
>light turns
>delayed ped interval means the intersection is full of peds
>cageoid runs them all down and rams into a parked fedex truck
>they came outta nowhere officer!
>cageoid gets an official apology from Mayor Adams
>NY times runs a headline about how pedestrians were run down by an inanimate "car" and soapboxes about distracted walking (the deceased peds weren't looking in all directions at all times)
>Seargeant's Benevolent Association raided by the FBI
>everyone claps
>albert einstein and mark twain make a snarky quote
>cyclists all get raptured
>cageoids Left Behind by Nicholas Cage
>everyone claps again

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>>1975554
I'm thinking about getting one of these to protect the battery from rain.

>>1976089
Does that help for deep penetration firebombing ops far behind enemy lines?

Sucks when your incendiary bomb burns your epidermis off before you reach the target in the “inner city” amirite yimby bros?

>>1976089
>open on top...
Wont work.
>>1976147
Lithium batteries arent even that fun to burn
But dry batteries wont go wrong as much as wet ones...

>>1975554
FUKIN LUV TECKELS, ME

>>1975554
>everyone keeps thinking my bike is an ebike because i have a frame bag
im one of you now :)

>>1975643
ok im not one of those people who seethes over ebikes existing but dude you do not need an ebike for 20miles on the flat, i mean do it if you want but that just sounds like a waste

>>1975643
an ebike wont help in the wind, they are as subject to aerodynamics as a regular bike
to get any noticeable improvement in a headwind without improving your aerodynamics you need a retardedly powerful motor
pro roadies need to put down 1000+ watts to go 30 and thats WITH maximum aero
if you had anything less than a 1kwatt ebike with shit aero and rolling resistance an average fag on a roadbike (not even talking about pros or anything) would still be faster

>>1976254
I own both and I don't think that's true but ok

>>1976255
well i guess you got me there but when i dont have my panniers i overtake ebikes on the flat in the wind all the time
then i seethe as they overtake me back the moment theres a hill

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>>1976152
Should I just tape up the tiny gaps instead? I don't want to damage the paint or leave it sticky. Pic related is the bike I have

>>1976254
I'm pretty sure just putting the motor into drive will help tackle a 15-25mph headwind, if nothing else the peddle assist will make it far easier.
>pro roadies need to put down 1000+ watts to go 30 and thats WITH maximum aero
Who the fuck said this? I just want to have 25mph head winds be manageable rather than a fucking nightmare. If absolutely nothing else operating in pedal assisted mode will make biking into a strong wind fairly easy.

Most of what I am going to be doing is using my bike to pick groceries up, head to a pub to watch a game or something, go out to eat, or head to/from work. I'm not giving a flying fuck about my areo efficiency as I am not racing armstrong here. In no situation am I going to go "Ah yeah long day in the office, time to suit up so I can get my areo proper and make it an easy ride!"

This board is like "what not going pro? Why bother bro!"

>>1976254
>I literal motor will not help in wind
I've read some stupid shit on this board but this has to be fighting for the top spot

>>1976331
That guy has no idea what the fuck he is talking about. Any electrical assistance will help massively in a headwind.

>>1976331
>Who the fuck said this? I just want to have 25mph head winds be manageable rather than a fucking nightmare. If absolutely nothing else operating in pedal assisted mode will make biking into a strong wind fairly easy.
improving aero is the only thing that will help this unless you want 1kw of motor
>>1976338
only if its a huge motor
>>1976356
it will make almost no difference

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>>1976366
I can guarantee you pedal assist biking will 100% be easier to deal with in a strong head wind than without
>improving aero is the only thing that will help this unless you want 1kw of motor
Prove this statement, prove that a bike like >>1975671 a pedal assist during biking into a head wind will not make it easier. Fucking e-scooters, those abominations, can handle a fair head wind.

>B-b-b-bBUT MUH AREO
Nigga, some people are just biking to go get some food or groceries. How the FUCK are you trying to areo when you have some groceries on you or just came from work?

>>1976366
Kill yourself.

>>1976372
it will either be easier or a couple of mph faster not both
>>1976376
hoping a cagie will do it for me

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>>1976378
>it will either be easier or a couple of mph faster not both
No one is saying it will be faster you fucking moron, you're the only one who brought up some metric of it having to go 30 while in a head wind. The whole fucking post you replied to was detailing out the fact it is easier to bike with an e-bike into headwind. That's it.

It could be both easier and faster vs. simple pedal into a head wind, if not definitely. Especially if someone is just using it to get around town and carry shit and isn't looking to go 100% areo.

>>1976380
ok well i guess if you wanna spend thousands for a huge heavy bike to go the same speed eeeever so slightely easier go off i guess
go for at least 1000 if you want it to be worth it
you underestimate the exponential scaling of aerodynamic drag
some aliexpress clip on aerobars or some nicer tyres would make a bigger difference lol
or hell if you have thousands to spend just buy a motorcycle loll

>>1976401
at least 1000watts*
how much that costs will also scale exponentially ofc
go for a conversion unless you wanna waste even more money

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>>1976401
A quick search on amazon brought up this, that's about around the same price as a normal bike. For someone who would want to get around town or run to the store it will work just fine. I don't understand what /n/ thinks people do with ebikes.
>go for at least 1000 if you want it to be worth it
LOL what? are you doing cross country? Oh no the battery died, welp guess I can just pedal now.
>you underestimate the exponential scaling of aerodynamic drag
No one is in a fucking race you absolute retarded ESL.

>>1976401
>buy a motorcycle
In California, I have to pay a bunch for the training, the get it registered, insured, and I have to ride it in the road where all the inattentive drivers are. Plus, every time I have downloaded the Motorcycle guide book, the next day I get a client who slipped on a single grain of sand and lost several ribs, eyesight, and somehow got double cancer.

But with an e-bike, I can still carry the same amount of stuff and I can jump between the sidewalk and bicycle gutter. Even though I will be slower than a Motorcycle, I also don't have to deal with traffic and usually can go at my own pace.

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>>1975554
>All posters with pedal less monstrosities like Sur Ron's will be summarily executed.

Without DIY chinkshits, Surrons, and throttle-only ebikes, this is just another commuter thread. Have a bump anyway. Please, don't shoot.

You eb*kers are the worst riders to be stuck around on big group rides.

>>1976416
>A quick search on amazon brought up this, that's about around the same price as a normal bike.
wow a shitty amazon bike
yeah i guess sure but its not gonna be any better on the flat than a bicycle that costs a tenner lol
>I don't understand what /n/ thinks people do with ebikes.
deliveroo apparently thats the only time i rly see them desu
>LOL what? are you doing cross country?
no just trying to get places
i have to deal with 25% grades and lots of wind every time i ride
i only wish iim on an ebike when im going uphill but i have the gearing for it so its easy just slow
on the flat i pass ebikes unless ive got my panniers and jacket on or theyre a big powerful mtb or aeroy gravel meme thingy
>Oh no the battery died, welp guess I can just pedal now.
not on that bike, you need a better one than that to not have motor drag when the batteries dead
plus enjoy that weight and pitiful gearing with no power
those tyres are probably awful too but thats the case even on more expensive bikes
>No one is in a fucking race you absolute retarded ESL.
no and neither am i, speed and efficiency are two sides of the same coin
when i talk about speed and passing people im talking about airspeed, i could slow down to their speed and be putting in about the same amount of effort unless theyre aerofagging too
if your gonna get an ebike spend the money for one thats not shit, build a kit desu fuck prebuilts, and fuck buying any bikes brand new in this market
and use it to carry some cargo or something at least, its just a waste to have a big pile of future ewaste in your bike that you arent really using
>>1976443
yeah desu idk why i said that, i wish i could ride a motorcycle but ofc them being treated like cars but worse makes them impractical as every day transport
at least ebikes get you like 5% of a motorcycle without all the bureaucracy i guess
and not being able to take it on a train
>>1976457
i saw a guy today getting hektic on a surron lol
looks like fun

>finally got electric bike
>people at work really like it and want to try it out
>someone in the office also bought one
>can charge it at work for free
So basically what I've learned is if /n/ hates it, then it's probably the correct thing to do. Didn't realize I was back to somethingawful logic

>>1976600
>not on that bike, you need a better one than that to not have motor drag when the batteries dead
If you can't pull 10mph on a bike like that with 20'' tires, you seriously need to lose some weight.

>>1977802
you still looks like of bad
i can not undertsood you not must get buk
all will laigh
yoy are weak bloodline

>>1975554
>/debt/
Wow at least you are self aware in what you going to be after buying one and using it 2 times before going back to cars you cock sucking faggots

Back to >>>/o/ with you

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>>1975554
What in tarnation is this brand?

>>1978881
Looks like a Cheetah by Revi, I think they're sold under a few different brand names.

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how do yall prevent your bike being stolen at a shop or the gym if there's nothing to chain it to

>>1979473
by finding a different different gym and shop

>>1979473
Most every gym I've been a part of allows you to bring your bike in and keep it up front. What fucking gym are you going through?

how do I remove my limiter?

>>1979625
Depends on the bike. Whatchu got?

>>1979627
AT656

>>1979628
I'm guessing it's doing that thing where you go over 15mph and the motor cuts out, right?

I don't want to give shitty advice for a shitty bike I don't know anything, but try looking up to see if there's something you could do through the controller. I think for yours it *might* be a Lishui LSW 06. You'll probably need a programming cable or even a new, compatible display in order to access the settings. At this point you've probably gutted the entire bike so you might as well swap out the controller too for a better motor and battery while you're at it. Or just accept your bike for what it is idk

>>1979630
*>I don't know anything about

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The shitty steel Wald 215 rack I bought for ~$30 that all the /n/iggers in the /bqg/ told me would self-destruct is still working and outlasting my fancy aluminum touring racks. I'm carrying 20lbs of battery + 20lbs of potatoes over bumpy ass roads at 35mph and it doesn't give a shit. Granted, I took /n/'s advice about the weak welds, so I reinforced them with hose clamps just to be sure they don't break apart. This has exceeded my expectations. Aluminum fags btfo.

Taking what I learned (steel is real frfr) I have modified a beefy Tubus steel rack to hold an ebike battery. This is what I wanted in the first place. It's solid af, but would be better if it could be welded. Might use this on a new build, since the Wald is still working fine.

>>1978635
Why do electric bikes make people seethe so hard?

Since flamboyant bois be asking:
It's the fact that (((you))) are compulsory liars. That's why people dislike e-bikes and their users. You are riding an electric motorcycle. That's what it is. Employing unconventional means of controlling it's speed, rotating pedals that is, doesn't make it any different than twist grip or foot pedal accelerators. That is not an inherently bad thing. But you could at least be honest enough and admit to being a motorist. Instead you try LARPing as cyclists. You do this to get access to cycling infrastructure. You're engaging in cultural appropriation. You usually lack bike handling and understanding of etiquette and cyclists end up being thrown into the mix. You're always in the way, going slow but not moving over, especially not before a cyclist had to slam the brakes. And if one of you ever happens not to be in slow and in the way it's anticyclic. Cyclists will have to put up with your shit over again on the next flat stretch, corner or descent.
Just buy a fucking electric motorbike and be a motorist.

>>1980642
Nobody cares about your super secret club, ebikers buy them to get around not to wank around with your made up cycler etiquette
>Just buy a fucking electric motorbike and be a motorist.
They barely exist, and you might as well buy a motorbike at that point which costs more, needs to be registered, requires a license, needs petrol, is much heavier/ can't be parked easily/ and so on

>>1980659
can't wait for e-bikes requiring moped license to operate

>>1980667
Nobody is gonna enforce that in my area. And if they try they'll never catch me since I'm on an e-motorcycle.

no license, no registrationSAH4, no verification needed.

>>1980659
Are you acting dumb on purpose ?
It IS an electric motorcycle. They are plenty and plenty cheap. Just accept it as that, stop pretend its anything different and do not use it where motorvehicles are not allowed or welcome. Also behave in general. Sadly motorists have to be explicitly told the later.

>>1980642
I get this is mostly bait but because this place is so pants on head retarded.
I don't think anyone actually thinks an electric bike is more than just a good investment compared to a only pedal bike. As others have stated a reasonable use case for getting to/from work where you might not want to pedal or suit up for proper areo or just combat the environmental conditions.

Virtually everyone I've talked to with an ebike simply wants one because it negates the need for registration+expensive registration+maintenance of a bike, and finally because they don't go far enough on average to justify an investment like a 50cc bike. Most states require a specialized motorcycle course and drivers license for one, so that's not really worth it compared to that of an electric bike that caps out at 25mph.

Thinking that it's a competition between ebikes and regular bikes is fucking stupid.

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>>1980642
>cultural appropriation
getoutofmyway.,,,iam theculture.

>>1982812
are you ok bacon? you never used to be this fragile

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>>1982836
ibrake,,,forevery trasheart thatsatan has suckedown!,
,,,,,,Godeliveredemtion tothell bound.,
,,,mytiresmokin.

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>>1975554
what e-bike for this daily commute?

>atlantic canada
>no bike paths, all street riding with max speed limit of 50 km/hr (31 mph)
>many rainy, windy, snowy days
>office wagie, will be transporting laptop and notebook
>soft-price cap of $3,000CAD (~$2,200USD)

>>1984086

If you're going to spend 3000 dollars you might as well just buy a motorcycle of some sort, instead of riding around on a fucking e-bike like some virgin dork.

I don't think any of you cyclists realize how much riding a bike makes you look like a faggot.

>>1984102
who hurt you?

>>1984102
Why should i care how i look to others? Seems pretty homosexual to me.
I dont have a e bike but they have a lot of benefits compared to a motorcycle if you need it for lets say a radius of 30-50km.
Speed is not always the most important thing

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>>1984102
$3k for a motorcycle is either a wrecked piece of shit or an unsafe design from nineteen forgotten while $3k gets you a decent ebike. For a legit motorcycle, you need like $10k

>>1984102
also, if you think riding a bicycle makes you look gay, you'll look gayer on a motorcycle
>t. I ride both, which is extra gay

>>1984102
e-biking is not faggotry but I agree that if you are going to drop that much money you may as well buy a moped.

>>1984116
Slightly off-topic, but since I'm missing that motorcycle sound on an ebike, I just had a thought: Halo-clickster on my throttle only ebike. Fun idea or would that get annoying really fast?

>>1980873
He's not wrong, e-bikes are clearly motorbikes but legally defined as bicycles. It works so long as there's a speed limiter but once that's removed then the law becomes a farce.

>>1984102
>>1984138
I would much rather spend less money than that. Are there models that are better priced that still meet my use case?

>>1984164
Since you're in Leafland, check out Voltbike and Biktrix. Zen ebikes are also Canadian, but more expensive.

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>>1975554
True or false? Batteries don't last as long with fat tires? Been thinking of getting fat tires because the roads here and literal shitholes. But if they truly do eat up battery then I'll just have to continue riding carefully.

>>1984252
The literal cognitive state of the e-motorists. One can only watch in awe. Of course fat tires will sap power and thus the same battery, at the same speed, won't last as long. For reasons like conservation of energy in classical physics.

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>>1984283
Th-thanks.

I have a 5k emtb. It's the best way to travel my large city when I don't want to take the car. It could do downhill runs but I don't even take it off road. Derestricted to 30mph and I just use it to pull phat wheelies, jump stairs and slay hills.

>>1984350
Also you look like an asshole.

>>1984252
Fat tires might make the motor work harder and in term, make the battery go through more cycles. So yes *technically* it can but realistically no.
>>1984102
Dunno where you live but a motorcycl requires me to take a class, personal property tax, get specialized insurance, more costly yearly inspections, and literally NOPE out of winter times for utility.
A fat tire e-bike I can basically charge at work for free, use in snow and ice without killing myself and have pedal assist in windy times. I pay nothing for owning it.

I will never understand the complete hate this board has with e-bikes

>>1984377
>I will never understand the complete hate this board has with e-bikes

poorfag luddites.
it took like fifteen years for the crazies here to stop getting angry at disc brakes.

>>1984392
>e-bike for price of used car or motorcycle
>being a sucker
>"poorfag"
More like smartfag.

>>1984394
normal bicycles cost the price of a used car or motorcycle. the only reason not to have an ebike or three in your garage is that you're not a real cyclist.

>>1984377
So you're literally argueing that you are doing the exact same thing, that otherwise requires license, insurance and taxation but without those. Are you perhaps in favour of abolishing the usual requirements for the operation of motorvehicles ? I am asking as in order to be consistent that would have to be your case.
In short: What you're observing is definately not limited to 'this board'. Also no one is any more opposed to your electric motorcycle than any other similar motorvehicle. People are opposed to you giving cyclists a bad name while larping as one only so you can evade the requirement for a license, insurance and taxation while at the same time abusing bicycle infrastructure.

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>>1975554
whatsa good e-bike for $900 or less?

>>1984397
>I am asking as in order to be consistent that would have to be your case.
the world is a system of inconsistent and unfair rules, and living in it involves taking advantage of this.

>oh so you want to eat well tonight, that must mean everyone should eat well tonight, and so you should donate all your money to charity to help that happen or else you are a hypocrite ?
childish logic.

>>1984395
>"normal bicycles"
Sucker shit. They got them for 60$ at the thrift shop. I have 11 bikes. 2 found, one gifted, other disposable 100$, 2 cheapest ebikes for 200$. Keep swatting at this night demons though, grandpa.

>>1984395
Its actually the other way round. And you know that. Having an electric motorcycle does not make you a cyclists but a motorist.
Depending on where you're coming from, you could argue that such label needs either exclusivity or is based on the fact alone. So a motorist, let's say the user of an e-bike, who happens to also use bicycles, may be regarded a cyclist and a motorist.
Either way, in isolation use of a motorvehicle, like the electric motorcycle, makes the user fit the motorist label.

>>1984435
>"Nobody" is the hoarder freak with the junkyard full of stolen bike parts and exploding electronics
>look through archives
>he's also the same guy screaming about minorities all the time
it's all coming together now

>>1984167
Thanks!
If I had to pick one from each site I'd go with (ordered by preference):
Voltbike Bravo - $1,900
https://voltbike.com/products/bravo

Biktrix Skycap 2 - $2,300
https://www.biktrix.ca/products/skycap-2?variant=41211064221893

Zen Saral - $2,900
https://zenebikes.ca/products/saral

>>1984404
tongsheng mid drive 48v. Just toss it on a bike frame..something with disc brakes and a decent front fork. 48v batteries are 200 or less these days.

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>>1984397
>So you're literally argueing that you are doing the exact same thing, that otherwise requires license, insurance and taxation but without those.
Yes? In europe I could by a moped or electric box car without a license. So what?
>Are you perhaps in favour of abolishing the usual requirements for the operation of motorvehicles
No just that the laws in the US are kinda fucked to make DUI convicts unable to drive. Drinking and driving is a fucking retarded level of shit, but also is requiring a full motorcycle license for a moped that can only top out around 20mph or 50cc.
> I am asking as in order to be consistent that would have to be your case
no you're just projecting now but w/e
>People are opposed to you giving cyclists a bad name while larping as one only so you can evade the requirement for a license, insurance and taxation while at the same time abusing bicycle infrastructure.
I don't identify as a cyclist, nor do I care about areo, or do I give a shit about that. I have a bike to get me around town that's it, again I don't know why this seems to be blasphemy on this board that some people use bikes for utility over anything else.

>>1984395
I think anon pointed it out pretty well >>1976416
Other than fucking albania where can you get a car for 350 USD

>>1984546
No one, at any time, ever implied, let alone said, anything about using bicycles or bikes in general for anything other than utility purposes. Same goes for aero and other shit. You're making that up and it's in your head only.
No one, so far, has voiced any opposition to using bikes in general, bicycles or motorbikes, electric or fossil fuelled, for utility purposes.
The only opposition you're vaguely picking up on and then misattributing is criticism of people using motorvehicles outside the cager inclusion zone, people making use of and demanding legal loopholes enabling the opreration of motorvehicles outside of the envelope commonly accepted as sensible (license, insurance, tax, cager inclusion zone), people claiming using a motorcycle makes them a cyclist and especially you retards bringing your >>>/o/ shit here. Make motorcycle threads on >>>/o/ as much as you like. Bye.

>>1984471
An ebike is not a motorcycle

>>1984476
Not all the time....I am surrounded by them though...

>>1984559
Define a motorcycle then.
Does it happen to be a single track, two wheeled vehicle using a motor governed by the rider for it's propulsion ?
Ebikes happen to be single track, have two wheels and are motor driven. The trick you're trying to pull off here is removing the most commonly associated meas of determining speed: twist throttle and replacing it with revolving pedals as throttle to mimic bicycles.
It IS a bike and it HAS motor as such it IS a motor-bike. What about that is impossible to understand for e-fags ? Bike + Motor = Motorbike.

>>1984612
A motorcycle is operated exclusively by the motor. There are no pedals. An ebike can be operated like a standard bicycle (via the pedals) without activating the motor

>>1984618
It's a motorcycle, this is cope for people who don't have class M on their license but they also cry
>"Y-you can't r-regulate my e-bike, it has p-pedals! It's a b-bicycle!"
Then zips away at 50mph twist grip

>>1984619
Don't know what you're going on about. My ebike is capped at 20mph which I think is plenty, and I don't like the overclocked ebikes you're referring to. I think we'd be better off without them. Being fast and probably illegal doesn't make them not ebikes, though

>>1984619
Go to /o/ and post a typical ebike in /DBG/ and tell them that's your motorcycle, faggot. I want to see the reactions.

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My motorbike lives in my office!

does anyone have a recommendation for a cheap 500W or less conversion kit for a North American?
I'd like to convert my current shitbeater to electric assist to try it out before I commit a bunch of money for a 'proper' ebike

>>1984667
$500 won't buy you a battery and anyway a cheap kit will just destroy itself, the bike you bolt it onto, and probably burn down your house. If you want to try before you buy, find something to rent.

>>1984667
eBikeling.com

>>1984638
>go to bank
>bring 40mph fat tyre inside
>no-one cares
>try to bring 50cc moped in bank
>cops called
why are people liek this?

>>1984722
Some old nigger wouldn't let me bring my pedal bike into walmart, even though I forgot the lock once....which I could have bought in walmart...

>>1984722
Apoo didn't let me take my regular bicycle inside Dunkin and I got so mad about it

>>1984722
Because the gas pan/oil pan+exhaust made can be considered a huge no no for many places. My apartment has a rule where gas powered devices such as mopeds have to stay outside, great way to be robbed from by anyone with a chain cutter in virtually any US city. Electric bike under X wattage is fine though.

99% sure it has to do with how gas and oil is classified via insurance. Batteries might get the axe at some point depending how fires go.

>>1984619
My e-bike might get up to 30-35 if I have a strong wind to my back in PAS mode, most everyone I know with an e-bike is only looking to go 20ish mph. They are perfect for lots of people who don't need to be in the office 5 days a week and don't live that far. I don't think anyone above the age of 18 thinks it's a motorcycle replacement. It's just a different option

I have two Jetson bolt pros. How do I mate them with reversibility? Im thinking a little car by a bridging seat. I was gonna do front motor, but there seems to no way to have a single throttle cause of the hall effect switch. Powered training wheels or reverse trike for a full size pedal would be good too.

>>1986978
Sage is not a downvote. Begone redditeur

>>1976254
>an ebike wont help in the wind,
This board is fucking hopeless

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Feels good to leave the car at home. To be fair, my commute isn't long at 35km to and from work but for fucks sake, it's like every other day there are massive headwinds going on. I just use Eco most of the time to not get lazy but turn that shit to max to dab on fucking headwind.

The only downside is weight. My old trusty MTB feels like a feather and is comparatively nimble af even with 29 inch tyres.

>>1988956
have you considered having the correct seat height?

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can scooters join. there is no PEV thread

>Faggots at aventon offering a free battery with purchase after i bought the bike at the end of last year
I really want a new battery (aventure 2)... are aftermarket batteries a thing?

>>1989062

scooters are clearly /o/ since you only have a throttle, no pedal assist :3

>>1975554
Just dropping in to call you gay

Help me, /debt/, you're my only cope. I've got a new 3 mile commute, that includes multiple 20% grade hillclimbs. My priority current crushes it, but it's a pain to manhandle onto the vertical bike racks in my office. Is there any <40lb, belt drive, torque sensing ebike with gears? I don't need a big battery, and could pay up to $4k ish.

I know I could compromise on some of these things, but then I might as well just keep hucking my current around, which meets everything but the weight. The Luna Fixie Stealth is also permanently sold out of my XL size.

>>1989647
>40lbs
I dont have too much knowledge on what is out there, but Aventon just came out with a "light" mountain bike model that is 54lbs

I work with e-bikes and they are great. The no exercise/no effort shit is a myth.
However they are completely dogshit for maintenance and they are not easily DIY repairable. They are also pointless to buy if you live somewhere with regular rain because of water ingress. They are "waterproof" but a harsh rain season or two will almost guarantee issues down the line. That's before even mentioning battery life and general wear and tear on electrical components.

>>1976089
I've biked in rain and snow and never had battery issues

>>1980667
Yeah u retards prob thinks a kids razor electric scooter needs license and insurance too right?

>>1984404
Best Buy sells some cheap ones that seem decent and u can pick them up so it doesn't get shipped and end up broken

>>1984622
same 20mph is fine meanwhile roadfags spend just as much for their shitty gear and blow through intersections all the time to conserve speed

>>1992380
This is why I prefer conversion kits because of the easy DIY. Some pre-made ebikes are just awful to work on

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is fiido a good brand and specifically the fiido t1. to use for city travel and maybe carrying women back to my place from work

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Anyone familiar with the C13 regen braking parameter in KT controllers? I currently have mine set to "1", and it seems fine for flat ground. What happens if I turn this all the way to "5" and bomb some hills? Will I notice a difference? Will something potentially blow up? The manual says to not do it, and so does my budget--so I'm asking if anyone does this on the regular or knows in depth about this setting.
Pic related.

>>1976252
If you/ve ever lived in the midwest you know how uhholy the winds can be we are talking 25mph+ constantly with gusts, don't even get me started on summers/winters. Distance isn't everything in the midwest lol. Suiox falls can get up to 90F in summer with 80% humidity and down to 0 in winter with a huge wind. An e-bike is good if you're going to/from work or picking up groceries regardless what /n/ thinks.

How do you guys get to/from work on your bikes or groceries? Just show up "yeah sorry just did 10 miles don't mind the smell!" or "oh gotta leave even earlier so I can change from my areo outfit".

>>1984116
youre a retard, brand new 2024 motorcycles that are twice as much power as you could handle are $6000, the 90’s-tech bikes are perfectly fine and $4000

Hi. I'm interested in getting an ebike for work. I need something that's affordable (I have a price range between 1000 o 2000 CAN), has good battery life, and can carry shit like groceries.

>>1995553
Also I should mention that I live in a small town.

>>1995553
I got the Engwe L20 $999
Does about 20m throttle only unlocked to 25mph
cargo bike so lots of storage
chinkshit though so buy at your own risk

>>1975662
>need to justify it by trashing the Chinese/DIY bikes.

Chinese / DIY are the fire starters. No UL rating all modded to remove speed limiter so they are going 60MPH on bike trails. Everyone hates these people. They give E- anything a bad name

>>1976443
This guy is the scooter "e-bike" trash on why i hate the chinese throttle garbage. This dude got some piece of shit off amazon and doesn't peddle just throttle controls everywhere claiming he deserves the bike lanes going 30+MPH on bike lanes and sidewalks

>>1975554
Cheapest thing with the quickest charging and regen braking? I really want to make the world flat.

>>1995777
So at minimum, you want pedal assist only?

>>1995857
Yes, and all UL certified. That would be a good start. I mean come on Chinese seem to have nailed the fat america oh so well, since they sell the vast majority of cheap fire hazard throttle assist bikes. Also really the whole class two seems like a stupid category.
It wont address people trying to mod their bikes to remove the limited but its a good starting point.

>>1995904
That would be my next comment/question: regulation is mostly a dream. But not to be evasive, it would keep your average dummy from hurting most people. Probably a net positive. But I don't want anything to hinder a car replacement. First step of that is stay just below the line of regulation.

>Retards think their electric bikes are reducing their carbon footprint

>>1996274
Nah but it does help when I have a 25mph head wind with 35mph gusts riding back home from a day of work in the office.

>daily ebike thread
>4 months old

>>1996274
Retards think they know what I care about or think

Not an ebike rider but even if I were you’d still be wrong

For some reason the ebike I've been using stop working. The battery is charged but for whatever reason bike is not responding to the battery.

>>1975764
So you dont own an ebike you own a scooter. Nothing but a throttle fag. Just wait till your cheap as Chinese shit burns your moms house down.

>>1976089
these are pointless.

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Is this a decent choice for a budget ebike?

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/700c-hyper-36volt-black/6000205706963

This is the max I'm willing to spend.

>>1989062
You have no idea how much I love high power electric scooters. You look like an absolute douchbag idiot manchild. But they are so much fun.

>>1999096
yeah

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Hello /debt/, I never owned or even rode an ebike but I need one for commuting.
This lafly looks like something I was looking for, but it has some noname chink battery and I already ran across one that's in good shape but has had a battery failure. Should I avoid it? I've also considered the ENGWE EP pro or M20 even though they are too bulky, because at least I can get them with warranty and the shop offers to service it.

>>1984086
i'm this anon back again. I've been stewing on pulling the trigger on anything but I think I've narrowed it down to two choices, Voltbike Bravo ($1,900 CAD) or the Voltbike Kodiak ($2,000 CAD). I was also looking at the Radwagon 4 ($2,200 CAD) but the tire and brake issues turned me off.
The Bravo is 10lbs lighter but the Kodiak would be easier to haul kids and their bikes in between the house and the local pond.

https://voltbike.com/products/bravo
https://voltbike.com/products/kodiak

>>2004355
I have a cargo bike very similar to the Kodiak (almost bought the Kodiak before I found it), a Vista Cruiser from California Scooter Co., with very similar specs. A few differences: came stock with 2 batteries, the motor is a Bafang 750w nominal that peaks at about 1200w, has 27.5 wheels instead of the 26", thumb throttle instead of twist, but otherwise almost identical. Have nearly 3500 trouble free miles on it in 2 years.
https://cscmotorcycles.com/electric-bicycle/vista-cruiser-utility-750w-turquoise/

>>1976261
Sure you do.

>>2004355
>>2004360
Ended up ordering the Kodiak yesterday should arrive by the second week of July. I'll post a pic update once I get it

>>1989647
I'm looking for similar bikes - light, high quality, don't care about capacity / would love to pay less than $3k for it.

On the low end, Ride1up's roadster models kinda fit the bill (though I have no idea how they would handle 20% grades, probably poorly). They are light/belt drive bikes and decently priced. I haven't found other light belt drive bikes unfortunately - I'm also considering the Priority Current or E-Classic because I feel like the belt would be a huge benefit over gears in my use cases.

The Velotric T-1 / T1ST is also super light, geared, and nicely priced esp given the UL cert.

If you step way up, the Specialized Turbo Vado and Orbea Vibe are both ~35-40lbs and have torque sensors, but no belt drive.

>>2004355
I had a Ride1up 500 series that looks identical to the Bravo - it was a nice bike for a mid-distance commute, but you'd probably get more utility out of the Kodiak if weight isn't a concern for you.

What's a good cheap donor bike to use for a 1500w 60v hub motor kit?
I see walmart bike videos for $250 on youtube but I don't trust those shills.

>>2005372
a decent used bike that you fully overhaul and if you aren't up to that then you shouldn't be doing an electric conversion either.

>>2005372
Does that even make financial sense at the moment? If I'm not mistaken, a bafang middrive kit will cost almost as much as a complete chink hub drive bike.

>>2005553
What bike? In that case I'll take a cheap beater if you're saying it's THAT cheap.

>>2005612
All the smaller ones from Engwe for example. They cost around 1200-1400 here while a mid drive kit with all shit included goes for 1k usually.

>>1975581
If you climb up a mountain on foot but take the gondola back down the mountain are you not a mountain climber?

If you peddle a bicycle several miles and then use the electric motor to help you the last mile are you not a cyclist?

e-bikes are cancer and should be banned everywhere

>>2005835
>peddle
It's PEDAL not peddle, you don't 'peddle' your fucking bicycle that would be unfathomably gay learn to write faggot

>>2005553
>If I'm not mistaken, a bafang middrive kit will cost almost as much as a complete chink hub drive bike.
mid drive conversion / diy ebike makes sense if you're already into bikes. If you already have an appropriate nice bike, that you'e fond of to convert, or if you're good at overhauling stuff and know about bikes and you -want- the bike part of your e-bike to be good. Because the hard part is not the conversion it's the same as buying a decent used bike and overhauling it, infact, people should start by doing that before even buying a kit.

It's not a cheat way for a noob to just save money.

Despite how many people come to /n/ asking for advice about diy e-bike I think i've seen maybe 1-2 nice conversions, ever. Which makes the whole subject pretty annoying.

>>2003537
I think the easiest way to not look like a douche on one, surprisingly, is to be geared up, you look like you know what you are doing and realize how unsafe it is. the biggest assholes i've seen on them have no helmet of any kind (and are usually of a certain race)

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Is anyone actually worry about battery fires?

I made a laser cut steel battery charging case/stand because I'm a tad worried about my cheapo chink batter randomly combusting.

Is there anyone out there worried about the same thing? Should I try to sell it as a product? It flat packs and assembles without tools.

>>2006420
that's cool lol
you got any cute little wood stoves?

>viable product
eh i mean people who're gonna accept there is risk and spend money/effort on it are probably just going to buy not chink batteries and not want to live with the fear at all.

>>2006420
Yeah, that also scares me. I don't even know what the best course of action would be if it catches fire. What's the idea with your case anyway? Maybe it won't ignite the rest of your house, but if it goes off, you still won't be able to handle it and throw it out.

>>2006481
The idea is that you can grab the handles and throw it out the door/window

>>2006510
Since it's all metal, the handles will get hot too.

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>>2006515
I mean yeah if the battery fire has raged on for a minute or something. But in actuality steel is surprisingly poor at conducting heat so I'd wager that those thin handles would stay relatively cool for a long time.

I did add plastic handles so no worries about heat but I did it because of the sharp steel edges and not heat.

>>2006420
I have the same fear but I haven't made a box yet. The biggest flaw of your design is the open top. LiPo fires are self-sustaining so once they start they don't stop. Your box with the open top will chimney effect and direct flames and popping batteries into your face if you try to get close to pick it up.
Put a top cap on it with the strain relief to feed the charging cable through, change the design (if needed) so that it charges while laying down to reduce the risk of tipping and damaging the battery, add ground wires from the box to the charger.

>>1975554
How do yous'll lock up your bikes when at work/grocery store? What locks do you recommend?

>>1975554
e-bikes are a nuisance and a safety hazard and should be banned

>>1975764
t. fatass drunken piece of shit excuse for a human being
kill yourself

I'm sorry to intrude, but can I ask why these even exist? If you want a vehicle powered by your legs then a regular bike is better. If you want a vehicle powered by a motor then a moped is better. How is an e-bike not just the worst of everything?

>>2007114
I can't really make the box fully enclosed because that would make it too big for letters where the max size is 25x35 cm and max weight is 2kg. As it is it is already probably not economical to ship as a product.

I think I'll do a test with some old battery to see if it can be picked up etc. when it's a raging inferno.

>>2007686
I have a car but it's impractical for commuting because the traffic jams are insane, parking space is not always trivial to find and if it breaks down or you crash into someone during the commute, that causes a big problem. Plus, it's an overkill when all I want to do is drag my lonely ass from a to b.
Public transport, regardless of how hard it's pushed is shit, full of undesireables and generally unusable.
I'm fine with using an ordinary bicycle, in fact, that's how I do most of my commutes now, but the problem is that I often have to share the street with motor vehicles which means they have to overtake me because I'm too slow. I'd like to avoid that and getting sweaty on a hot day, but I don't want to go through driver school again to get a motorbike license and I don't want to pay the taxes for owning a bike or moped. Ebikes are perfect for that.

hey /n/ and /debt/ can I get a recommendation on an e-bike? Preferably one of them small ones that I can fold because I don't have a shed with my apartment

>>2006518
>>2006420
You can buy 15lb, 81mm mortar cans for $25 or the way taller 20lb, 120mm mortar can for $50 so probably not.

For not burning your hands $13 nomex flight gloves.

>>2007736
Lectric XP Lite 2.0

>looking at getting an ebike since I barely use my car anymore
>I'm sure the 4chan thread will have helpful advice and recommendations about diy kits vs prebuilts and all sorts of stuff!
>thread is just full of malding lycra clad faggots sneeding that they arent real bikes

What a shithole, cyclists should all be shot.

>>2008800
They're straightforward. Diy kit on old bike is probably your best decision but heed >>2006363 warning. If you don't care for diy stuff then >>2008794 should be fine. This doesn't need a general.

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Found an electric bike that was abandoned a long time ago. It's not in too bad of shape given how long it's been sitting out exposed to the elements, nothing some basic maintenance can't fix. The frame is sturdy, it just has minor cosmetic damage like rust or scratches here and there. The chain assembly while rusted, I managed to restore to working condition with some oil. The front tire is fine from what I can tell, just needs some air. The back tire's inner tube was ruptured and needs replacing, an easy fix. However, the real problem lies in the fact that it does not have a seat or a battery to power it. Plus the battery is integrated into the seat itself as well, so there's also that problem to deal with. A charger for the battery once I hopefully find one would be nice too. Also there's the problem where I'm not quite sure what the exact model of bike it is as well, due to it being a foreign model from South Korea and there's two different variants of what it could be. Based upon my research it's either a Samchuly Phantom FE or a Samchuly Phantom FE GS. Not quite sure what the difference between the two is as they're veritably identical in specifications. Their website isn't exactly user friendly in terms of finding what you're looking for. I don't think they sell replacement parts, which is a terrible business model, and I can't get customer service due to the language barrier as I don't speak Korean. Any assistance in being able to find a replacement integrated battery seat assembly so I can fix this bike up would be greatly appreciated. I'd hate to see it go to waste, it's a rather expensive bike.

https://www.samchuly.co.kr/index.php/eng/bicycle/view?no=1991&type=search_list&searchJson=5xTJx6o7PpQKRICFTyRcEHTd+3IZOUFaKmWDP17JDUHqejtFkO9K/OeJNOEDFJZQaxyoGH+wn8Ndh1NUfWzDDmDAhnMK+7L4cL5dfBk6V1Rz4ys+Cd6DKg7kJa70cJis&scrollTop=644

https://www.samchuly.co.kr/index.php/eng/bicycle/view?no=1461&code=B011001&type=brand

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Anyone here diy?
I'm piecing together what is going to be a big tire kick scooter with a small hub motor.
I'm building it so that it functions as a stand up scooter but I'm going to also have a (removable) seat so it can also function as a moped.
I've just been figuring out the electronics so far, but now that I have the wheel, I'm going to start modifying the scooter to fit it, lengthing it and adding a frame above the rear wheel to hold the battery box/storage basket.
Really trying to decide if 1.9kw is way too much battery for it, but i can get the cells very cheap and it is what it takes to meet the peak discharge rate of the motor (68A).
Am I just off my shit on capacity? How much battery capacity do you guys have and how long do you usually get out of it on high or mainly throttling only

>>2007686
Because you can't ride a moped through the sidewalk or grass

>>1975643
Because ebike is motorised vehicle, that's treated like bicycle.
Imagine people ride motorbikes like a bicycle, with no regulations. It would be a mess.
The bikes itself is not a problem, but the general public use of it, if we talk about proper and safe ebikes ofc

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Your thoughts about pinion with built-in carriage motor?
When will it get cheaper (1000$ for frame and gearbox+motor)?
How difficult will it be to maintain and repair it yourself?

>>2008827
>>2009000
>>2009435

E-bike are just another term for 'electric moped' and should be treated as such legally. They should be required to have a headlight, taillight, brake light, turn signals, and a license plate. E-bike riders should be required to be trained and educated, pass a written knowledge test and a skills test in order to posess a license to operate an e-bike. Furthermore they should be restricted to public roads only, and strictly prohibited from bike paths.

>>2009451
no fucking licences.
teach people all traffic rules from the school, introduce lessons about bicycles at school.
make lessons combined with physical education where they will practice driving techniques and maneuvers, and combined with labor where they will maintain every part of the bicycle and e-bike, including fixing gears/magnets/etc in motors and soldering batteries

>>2009451
I'm fine with that, I'm actually planning lights on mine and already have a motorcycle license.
There is no way im getting a cuck plate though when the government charges you $200 a year for it, for an electric scooter.
and i WILL ride on bike paths and you WILL yield to me, bitch boy

>>1993055
>to use for city travel and maybe carrying women
kek

>>1998689
OP is probably posting from Venus

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>>2005042
I received the Kodiak last week and got it assembled over the weekend. Have yet to actually ride it. I didn't realize how big this bike actually is. It came 90% assembled and I had to take it out of the box to at the receiving terminal to fit it in my little suv.
>Cost: $2,000 cad + tax (shipping 'free')
>order placed June 23rd
>shipped July 3rd
>received July 15th

>>2009592
what is that black thing by the rear tire

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Not gonna be doing the holocaust on 4 wheels on this baby :)

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>>2009594
that's a fat, little, freeloader that likes to go underneath me while I'm squat down putting on the running boards to bite my thigh

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>>2009592
only complaint so far is that when on the kick-stand the front wheel wants to pivot to one side. When it does that the light is the first thing that comes in contact with the frame before it stops. The light is attached with a cheap plastic bracket and it immediately snapped off.

Anyone here commute during winter with heavy snow? I'm wondering how well the batteries live during the winter. I don't mind charging often but I'm more curious if they can handle something like -30c without breaking.

>>1977792
4channers hate everything and are pessimistic about everything because they hate life.

>>2009451
Did you have your license to type this post on 4chan? Fuck off boot licker.

>>2011053
Your society will be taken over by niggers. On ebikes.

I'd like to travel on an e-bike/e-moped, but how do I charge one?
Are there any bikes that can be charged with an 11kW type 2 charger?

>>2011055
ebikes cost as much as a glock.
if they could afford enough ebikes to destroy society, they would already have enough guns to destroy society.
ebikes are nly seemingly a problem in people's minds. they think these things are as powerful as a motorcycle. they argue about their own perception and thoughts on them which is warped and twisted from what is actual reality.

in some ways, it isnt their fault, they are comparing what they could do with one. but they are physically fit and have tons of endurance and training.
God's least fat ebike rider could hardly keep up with them on their weaponized ultra light carbon tube race bike.
Maybe we should petition to ban these ultra fast race bikes off the trails too since they are capable of the same speeds and resulting dangers

>>2011087
>Are there any bikes that can be charged with an 11kW type 2 charger
every ebike on the market has less than a 1KW battery total.
what do you think?
someone better call up tesla if an ebike is capable of that, a 6 minute 0-100% charge, that's revolutionary.

shitposting aside, most electric motorcycles dont even have L2 charging, only the most expensive ones. To charge safely at 11kw, the battery would need to be ~8kw passively cooled or 3.3kw with active cooling and in insanely cost prohibitive battery management system. the battery pack would also need to be like 190v nominal, for the onboard charger to not be the size of a entire bicycle itself. GL getting a controller and hub motor for that kind of voltage

>>2006518
you need a way to redirect flames and smoke outside. ducting and a series of screens. LiFePO4 is also less flammable if you are very worried

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Hi, I have a little BMX bike I raised the seat and handlebars way up high on so it's more comfortable to sit on while coasting. I'm curious if there are any recommended electric kits for 20" wheeled bikes like this. I don't need anything super fast, just enough to get up to a standard cycling speed. I don't think the frame is good for going over 20MPH or anything too crazy. Is Amazon a good place to look, or are there more reputable locations for kits and batteries?

Thank you!

>>2012730
bafang bbs02 mid-drive kit on a bmx would be sick

>>1975554
The only "pro" to an e-bike, as I could imagine from my own experiences with bicycles, is that it'll only be best for shorter trips on relatively flat terrain; I personally wouldn't trust an e-bike for longer journies. I don't see how an e-bike can benefit someone other than to benefit lazy people ('when it's working'--I operate by Murphy's Law). From my experience of riding on long trips and going up hills, every bit of weight you pack with you will determine how easy your ride is going to be on uphill and uneven terrain.

Those batteries weighing 4kg-8kg individually are definitely not lightweight enough to be suitable for a long-way trip if it were to fail on you. Even if you had a backup battery, it is still going to be especially more cumbersome--and more tolling on the bicycle--with carrying that extra weight on you.

If anyone has actually tried riding these with a dead battery on a long trip where there are a lot of hills, let us know about how it went because I personally can only have my suspicions and on what weight the internet is telling me of how heavy it is.

Are there any decent e-bikes $1500 or under? I'm looking to upgrade from my cheap mountain bike to make my commute a little easier. It needs to handle off-road (I cut through a short trail and park on the way home) and snow. Rain would be nice too but I can always switch to the regular bike for those days.

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Does anyone know if I can just slap a 52v battery on my bike with this stick speed controller. Obviously I see its rated for 48v but from my cursory research online, people are saying its fine. but theyre also mostly saying "the motor will work at any voltage" and i cant find much else

>>2012997
I have Engwe L20 $999. works well for me. I commute through mixed muddy and rocky trails and its solid a few hill climbs too.

Does this look like a good e-bike? I've never bought one of these and I don't want to spend over a grand for my first and this one was just under.

And I'd be using it for transport more than lesiure, to use as an alternative to taking the bus >>2014665

>>2014665
Would opine if I could see it

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>>2014665

>>2013027
>52v battery

It's fine (usually). If the controller is rated for 48v, it should be able to handle 52v. Some displays might give wrong readings.

>>2014669
Bikes with a short wheelbase, strange caster angle and small wheels like that don't handle as good at higher speeds as your classical bike frame, but will be able to make tighter slow turns a bit easier. Probably doesn't matter if you're not autistic about it.

Also that battery looks like ones you can buy on ali which is good so you know that you can replace it, but I don't like how exposed to the elements it is. I've seen other bikes placing it within the frame. Also not important if you're never going to ride when it's wet and I have no experience with ebikes so what do I know.

>>2014741
Thanks, I think I'll go for it. Having a battery exposed in a rainy place is a trade off I'd bear with with if it's easier to replace, and with the top speed being 15mph, the small wheels should be fine too.

What's the official /n/ recommended ebike?

>>2014981
big wheel bmx + bbs02hd

>>2014981
Lectric XP

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Thoughts on these lopifit things? I like the idea but not the execution or price.

>>1975657
>>1975662
>>1975665
the sole problem with e-bikes is that theyre motorised vehicles used by people that shouldnt use motorised vehicles

>>2012997
Ended up getting an XP 3.0 (long range). It's pretty cool but riding it just makes me more excited to upgrade to a motorcycle in a few months. Not sure if I want to risk using it in heavy rain but I might try it during a drizzle. Getting to work without being sweaty is nice.

I have a shitty Jasion $400 amazon bike and it makes it possible to get beer 30 minutes before closing time so I'm happy with them.

>>2015078
Idea form and should be copied and scaled up for all vehicles. Would still love pedals, they would be elective, but on such a insubstainal vehicle, where the vast majority of the weight is the rider, even if it's only 20% of the power, 20% is a lot in any accounting. Feeling like a lump as you facily go running speeds is cucky and depressing.

Also, obviously i can change the settings each time but i would also like the controller to serve as an upgrade and allow me to upgrade the battery in the future. and of course i would like to remove the tedium of changing the settings regularly

>>2018542
If anyone has experience with modding and upgrading E-bikes i am looking for a controller that will allow me to program a mode shifting feature into the bike

For example when the bike is turned on normally it will run in a street legal mode for when im commuting. Whereas if for example i hold the throttle and brake whilst turning it on, it will start in an off-road/ unlocked mode.

sent out of order since apparently 4chan doesn't like my VPN

>>2015220
How's the acceleration on this? Does it feel cheap? If it breaks, can you fix it you think?

can anyone recommend if those e bikes sold for circa 2000€ on AliExpress are any good? The ones that claim to be able to go up to 50km/h. Any recommended brand/stuff to look for
Inb4 limit is 25km/h
I know but if deliveroo niggers can use it unpunished so can I

Anyone made an inline golf cart? Like taking a golf cart motor, putting all the lead acid batteries as narrow as possible into a giant couple hundred pound mini bike/scooter.

>>2018737
They're shit. The niggers doing 50km/h likely modified them. If you just unlock an aliexpress fatbike you'll probably make 40km/h before it blows up. I have a Mate X 750W and it's faster than 90% of the nigger bikes. The key is the Bafang motor. if it doesn't have a Bafang motor it won't go fast and handle high power. After installing a 30A controller I cruise at 1200W and peak at around 2,000W. You're not going to achieve this with some bullshit Aliexpress bike that has a no-name chink motor, 13Ah fake battery and 15A controller.

>>2013027
Don't listen to this >>2014716 guy. Motor will work on any voltage (it's just wires and magnets) but controller MOSFETs may blow on higher voltages.

>>2018543
Just buy an SW900 display and change P08 to 25km/h whenever you commute

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Thoughts on etrikes?

Ive got a mom with a knee replacement who wants an ebike to ride on trails and up to the farmers market.

A 2 wheel bike is not an option. Ive ridden the sun trike non electric and its comfy but idk about the e version. The sun is 2300 the rad etrike is 1899.

She is of normal weight so on the rad she'd supposedly be able to carry 275 lbs of cargo (doubt)

>>2018893
I heard trikes have shit stability. Maneuvering through traffic will also be harder. Other than that they seem good if you have mobility issues and don't plan on going fast.

>>2018893
Check out the Lectric e-trike, it handles better because it has a rear hub motor and differential axle so the steering isn't as wonky as a front hub motor.

>>2018895
>I heard trikes have shit stability

They do as the higher you are up the least likely it is to tip. The rad rides on 20s the sun you are on 24s with a real low seat.

Theres a number of them with 26s that look dangerous.

I think the rad has a better drive system

>>2018898
Thx will do.

>>2018889
Thanks anon, you saved me ton of money

>>2018893
Traditional trike is a tip over machine. Reverse trike is the answer. So ice cream man bakfiet.

>>2019836
Wow, that's some mental illness there. I almost wish climate change is real and leads into mass suicide so that this guy can become plant food as soon as possible.

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Not a bikefag so forgive the dumb questions.
I just recently started a job and I only need to commute to the train station & back. The drive's not long at all but my car is a shitty beater with expensive problems beginning to crop up. I was thinking of a bike but I'm a fatfuck and the path needs to go up and over a hill so I was thinking of an ebike. There are places to stow your bike while riding the train but there have been cases where like 10 bikes were in the same train, there was just a huge stack of bikes and nowhere to put them, so a folder would be kinda nice. With that context let me ask my questions:
1. Anyone have this Lectric XP Lite 2.0 suggested earlier? How is it? I'd really like an affordable folding ebike, so the Lectric seems perfect, I briefly looked at folding ebikes but scoffed at the price.
2. There are bike racks outside my workplace and they are monitored but I'd still like a strong chain, how is the security on the included bike lock? Any suggestions for better bike locks?
3. Should I get the fenders or can I just get any random fenders and they will work?
4. Also real newbie question, what's a good helmet if I decide to pull the trigger on one of these.

Any answers or resources for any of these questions would be much appreciated anons.
Also, don't tell me to get a real bike, I work a white collar job and don't want to be all sweaty when I get in.

>>1992380
>they are not easily DIY repairable
Which ones are generally repairable?

>"""daily""" ebike thread
>a month between posts
Your board is as slow as your vehicles. That said, I bought a slightly used chinkbike. Hope it doesn't burn my house down.

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i have an electric bike ive been riding for 3 years, last week the phase wires for the motor melted together after a steep slow uphill climb
I've had to replace the controller and some other parts
ive got the bike up and running again but now the brakes dont cut off the motor and the throttle doesn't work, the speedometer and odometer don't work properly either, neither is giving an accurate read out
the controller came with a connector for a brake light, which i haven't connected, i dont have one, im wondering if not having the brake light connected will cause the circuit to be not connected and cause the motor cut out to not function, i have no idea though
as for the speedo and odo i wonder if ive damaged the hall sensor when the wires melted