What are your thoughts on Embraer? what is the future of the company? What do you hope they accomplish?
They didn't fly so good.
>>1977411>What are your thoughts on Embraer? I haven't flown on one yet>what is the future of the company?Continuing to be the RJ guys>What do you hope they accomplish?Better RJs
>>1977411Flew one of these from PDX to MSP, sleek plane, nice seating (no middle seats), fast
Embraer is to Boeing what Bombardier is to Airbus.Natural monopolies, nationalist protectionism, too big to fail, etc./thread
>>1977449Is this a 190?
would like them to move into manufacturing 150-200 seats class.I'm not dissatisfied with Airbus, but the quality is excellent, so I'd like it to be developed as a third option.
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>>1977537Nah, that's a Tupolev 204
Much nicer to fly than CRJst. typed on both
>>1978516The E2's are the quietest planes on the current market.
i miss seeing 135s everywhere to be honest, they just had such a cool look, 145s are still around in some places but they arent the same
>>1977411>What are your thoughts on Embraer?Good planes>what is the future of the company?Realistically? More RJs and potentially that eVTOL they're developing>What do you hope they accomplish?Get successful enough to produce a big airliner
>>1978560for whom? pilots, passengers, ramp rats or citizens near airport?
>>1980288https://simpleflying.com/embraer-e2-quiet/>In comparison to other narrowbodies on the market, the Embraer E2 successfully outclasses them all. Its close competitor, the Airbus A220-300, is 11% nosier when measured in EMPdB than the E195-E2.
They have a window of opportunity to go big as Boeing is currently failing. I doubt they will seize it though. It would require a ton of capital than neither them nor the Brazilian government can easily gather. I think it's more realistic for COMAC to eventually replace Boeing. The CCP is willing to dump money in COMAC for decades until they make it.
>E175it's a fucking goblin plane designed by huemonkeys for 5'2" subhumansyou can't even stand up from an aisle seat without smashing your head on the overhead bin. don't even fucking bother getting up from a window seat or you're deadfuck those planest. 5'10 court jester
I think their cockpits are ugly. I’m sure they’re fine jets
>>1980326>The CCP is willing to dump money in COMAC for decades until they make itSo is the US Government with Boeing, Xiang.
>>1981052are you fat or something?
https://aeroin.net/a-embraer-pode-produzir-avioes-maiores-mas-nao-temos-planos-de-fazer-isso-agora-diz-ceo/>Embraer can produce larger planes, but we have no plans to do so now
>>1977411Boeing wanted to form a partnership (which would probably lead to their acquisition down the line) since they can actually design planes. It didn't concretize.Realistically, they could make a B737 or A320 competitor, but it doesn't make sense at the moment. Their best shot is to have something for the ~2035-40 since that's where we expect the stretched A220 to come out to replace the A320 and news about A321 replacement, which should be a new plane using the CFM RISE.
>>1977411i like them and their planesmore competition is always good and i hope they make a big plane
>>1977411Stupid ass bike handlebar yoke but other than that its pretty good. Easy to fly, good for passengers
>>1983282The most based plane ever made has that yoke.
>>1983282Only the regional jets have that.The defense and executive ones are all joysticks.
>>1980326No one is buying chink airliners shit in the west ever
First E-Jet is still flying to this day.
>>1985734And the original A320 was active until 2017, 30 years of flying before being preserved and repainted to its original colorshttps://www.planespotters.net/airframe/airbus-a320-100-f-wwai-airbus-industrie/e54273
>>1985734what are the plans for old regional jets? Wide bodies get converted into cargo planes, but I'm curious if these old E-jets will follow the same path or just get scrapped for parts.
>>1985758Also cargo planes.
>>1985869who's buying them? Fedex, Amazon, or smaller and lesser known delivery companies?
>>1985929Idk. Smaller ones i guess?
>>1985756>testing planeImpressive, very nice. Let's see the oldest revenue A320.
>>1985987https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/airbus-a320-200-zs-gar-global-aviation/egx8v3Started with Braniff, 1989, 35 years oldAutre question?
>>1977411I use to work on this plane a lot(E175), it was honestly my favorite plane. I flew on it a decent amount of times as well. Fairly comfortable.
>>1986779I heard that mechanics love working on embraer planes.
*kinos behind you*
>>1986982>5 APU jetThose things are a bit spooky to watch takeoff in hot/high conditions
>>1981052I'm 6'0 and just took a flight on a J-Air (Japan airlines subsidiary) E175.The overhead bin is indeed very low, but interior was extremely spacious. Loads more legroom and width than a 737 or a320. Part of it is probably the JAL configuration, but some of it is also due to the dimensions of the aircraft naturally forcing airlines to fit much bigger seats than typical economy on narrowbodies.Pretty confy so you're completely wrong
First E-Freighter flew today.
>>1977411Embraer makes some really sturdy airframes considering what air astana 1388 or air serbia asl86c erj survived through, or how an embraer legacy private jet managed to land safely after cutting off an entire boing 737 wing in a mid air collision.
>>1989890>sturdy airframesI realized something awhile ago, do airplane manufacturers or airliners ever advertise their products or services as being safe, similar to what car companies do?
>>1978898>imagine
>>1990042boeing is literally on record as saying safety is not part of their business model
>>1980326>replacing BoeingPure delusion. Sure, they are complete retards for listening to their customers and beating the type into something it isn’t rather than creating a new narrow body. They aren’t going anywhere.
>>1992301It is not entirely unfeasible that Boeing gets forced out of the commercial space. I would say its likely that they are morally irredeemable and will not be able to ever operate again out of goodwill. Their greed and maliciousness occasionally can find self-interested excuses to pursue quality and safety, but overall they will always be looking to cut corners and put people's lives in jeopardy to make a little more money. They shouldn't be allowed in the airspace of a country with a self-respecting regulatory agency, but the fact is the risk is tolerated because the alternative is a complete breakdown of a crucial utility industry.And if they actually had to face the consequences of the full breadth of their malfeasance (murdering a whistleblower was bold to say the least) Boeing would disappear completely.BUT, in the very rare event Boeing is allowed to die its deserved death, whatever steps up to compete with Airbus will simply be a revived or new American firm that inherits the US airliner manufacturing capacity. Brazil, China, Indonesia etc. they are not going to be making widebody airliners that can actually compete with Airbus in our lifetimes. Brazil could probably outdo Boeing, but that still leaves a lot of room between "better than Boeing" and "acceptable" that still isn't up to a 21st century standard.
>>1978898145s are my favorite when I'm solo flying because the entire plane is 1-2 Economy seating. I don't have to choose between window and aisle and it doesn't cost the price of a first class ticket either.
>>1984572ftfy
>>1989721for what purpose? just by volume757's can carry 15 mail pallet units767's can carry 24 units747's can carry 35 unitsthe ATR can carry 7 unitsFedEx paid for most of the C408 R&D to replace the C208 on their feeder routes and needed it to carry at least three unitsWhat advantage does a >light>narrow>small-engined>different typegive to cargo companies who can just buy surplus 75/76, 777, and now A330's for the rest of the century?
>>1989721https://twitter.com/embraer/status/1785048077117911443 was that a test flight? Their communication is confusing.
>>1994290Yea, it was their first flight.>>1992951The national mail company in Brazil has interest.Also there's a fuckton of F190's in poorfag countries that could use it.
>>1992942>only picture of the Concorde was by a stripped down fighter jet only after the Concorde slowed to 1.5M. It will never be like that again.
>>1992951>give to cargo companies who can just buy surplus 75/76, 777, and now A330's for the rest of the century?There won't be enough surplus.
>>1992951light and narrow body airplanes are able to land in smaller airports and in cities with stringent noise pollution laws.
>>1994451https://embraer.com/global/en/media Do you browse their media gallery? They upload wallpapers every wednesday that people can download.
>>1994457nta but that's awesome
>>1994471I couldn't find any wall papers to post here since they're all over 4m. But there are some awesome photos there. You used to be able to sort it by airlines but they got rid of it for some reason.
https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/boeing-partner-embraer-aircraft-manufacturing-edf3758a it's happening
>>1994679They already denied it, though they did announced studies for it last year.
>>1984572Those motorcycle style yokes look retarded.
>>1994457I know, the Brazilian Air Force has something similar on their website, lots of KINO pics.