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3 speed
All you need
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3 sneeds, all you feeds
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2 shoes
1 drum
All you need
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The trick is to set the range suitable for you with the rear cog. For helthy young men like us, maybe change the 22 to 20 or 18.

For realsies though, S5 is the best hub but with the worst shifter.
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>>1980531
Thanks but i stay with my Di2 ultegra.
This weird pos you posted probably weighs as much as my wheelset.
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>>1980531
two speeds too many. what do you think i am? racist or something
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Don't even need the rest of the bike
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>>1980550
>S5
>good
Absolutely based
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Speedlets.
Imagine not having the biblically correct number of speeds to choose from.
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>>1980627
What is this?
I hate hub gears because i cant put down power.
There are quite a few small but step hills around my house where i push with a peak power of over 1kw for 30 seconds. A hub gear would simply disintegrate at peaks over 1,5kw.
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>>1980631
Thats weird since most peoples hubs hold up fine even upwards of 2 kw. Perhaps swuat some and get a gear hub for commutes ? Squatting will also keep you healthy into age.
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>>1980608
A good compromise between range, durability and complexity. The new 8-11 speeds are finicky and need to be serviced at the shop.

I know 5 speeds at 25% increments (relative to the middle gear) is not amazing but good enough for a commuter.
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>>1980531
You can take my STEPS / AXS 12sp from my cold dead hands.....
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>>1980531
might as well use a single speed
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60s stepthroughs with 3speeds are literally the ideal commuter bike if you live within 5 miles of your job, plus theyre like $20 bucks.

my daily is an 80s mongoose mixte frame with an overhauled '58 sturmey 3 speed, i use a bar end friction shifter.
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Those old 3 speeds slipped out of gear so often that there was a name for it in British medical books after WW2. "Raleigh balls"
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>>1980705
More of a symptom of shitty coily outer cables that compresses.
AW was solid, it was made since 1936 to like 2019
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>>1980955
i heard to stick to early AWs made prior to like 1968 because they got really shitty.. I have an '87 schwinn with an s3c sturmey, and that thing sucks ass and chipped a bunch of gear teeth before it imploded
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i bought this weird trek for $100 that has a shimano 3speed on the back, and a dynamo hub on the front.. there's no shifter, the dynamo powers this little battery/solenoid system that automatically shifts.. it's kinda cool.. i suppose it's like an '08 shimano nexus coaster.. not sure how reliable it will be
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>>1980979
There is a gt cruiser nearby with a similar setup.
Neat, but it's not 250 usd neat.
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>>1980979
we don't even brook automatic transmissions in cars in this household. i'm certainly not going to put one on a bicycle. save the manuals!
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>>1981012
if the shift mech dies, i can always install one of picrel. i could even use the enclosure of the dead mechanism to house a battery, wire the dynamo and a usb port to it for charging.
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>>1980979
Mechanically inferior to the Land Rider autoshift
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>>1981037
is it?
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>>1980971
I'd say they got REALLY shitty after the 70's
90's SA hubs are rarely seen without pitted cones, broken axles or malformed/broken sun gears, and if they are in good condition, they run heavy
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>>1981603
You know what has none of those problems?

-Torpedo
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>>1980550
I just got a new trike with an s5, I went cross country with the three speed hub last year and had no problem, the s5 so far is great but the shifter is tricky but doesn't bother me
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>>1982201
Yes, but then Sram bought them and then they fucked it into ground because americans cant into gear hubs
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>>1982255
lol more far are sold in the US than the UK, despite the fact that American's typically see them as an "English thing"
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>>1982253
Have you done the Sheldon Brown thing; operate it with a normal Sturney Archer 3 speed shifter and a friction shifter for high/low range?
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>>1982262
that only works with old 3 speeds, and it's kinda shitty because if you're not dead-on 2nd, there's a good chance you'll slip out of gear into the neutral zone and eat shit when you stand up to pedal. Works okay, though
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>>1982268
You shouldn't have force on the pedals while shifting any hub gear, anyway.

I was assuming the 2 cable version of S5, if that wasn't clear.
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>>1982279
why ... does it come with two levers and cables ? to you take up the slack on the opposite lever because it's got no spring or what is the joke ?
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>>1982279
>>1982279
oh, i wasn't familiar with that. my b.

>You shouldn't have force on the pedals while shifting any hub gear, anyway.
it's not about that, it's about not being fully seated on the gears/pawls when you shift, then having it slip later down the road when you stand up and get after it.

>>1982284
looks like a shifting mech on each side of the hub. ive never seen one of these before.
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>>1982284
The cables are independent, they both have some spring force behind them.
The extra cable selects if your 1st gear on the 1st cable is 78 or 66 % reduction or 3rd gear 125 or 150 % increase. (2nd gear is the same in both cases.)
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>>1982297

interesting. so basically the extra cable gives 1st and 3rd have a "high" and "low" option
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>>1982261
Oh, I thougt you meant the sachs/sram spectro 5 for some reason, had a brainfart there.
Yeah, SA 5 speeds were never common in europe because they're all in the landfil by now
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>>1982381
They were super premium until a brief period at the turn of the 90s and were then quickly superceded by the better offerings of Shimano and SRAM at which point SA was out of money to innovate and was bought off.

Not terribly common, yes. Only for ultra normies who were afraid of derailleurs.
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>>1982388
Any internally geared hub was superior to derailleurs until like '72
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>>1982400
You might easily argue they still are. It depends on what you value in a drive system.
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>>1982401
True
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>>1982400
Also derailleurs used to be surprisingly expensive in comparison until relatively recently. Either the cogsets just costed that much or some price gouging was happening.

I remember in the late 90s, my dad was getting a bike for me. The small town bike shop had two 'choise offerings' on display: one had 7 speed Nexus on it and the other the then standard 7x3 derailleurs, it costed like 50% more. So I got the Nexus and was made fun of :(
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>>1982413
I wish I would've had a real bike when I was a kid. I rode BMXs until I was like 16.

What country are you from?
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>>1982417
Finland.

We used to have two bicycle manufacturers with monopoly, Helkama and Tunturi. That may explain the derailleur pricing situation.
I don't know how much a commuter/hybrid with only rear derailleur would have costed in comparison or if that was even an option to buy at the time. (Very common setup in the 80s.)
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>>1982425
>2 companies
>monopoly
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>>1983605
What a little prick, you.
Everyone who reads that post knows exactly what he means.

Further, when was the last time you heard a native English speaker use the word "duopoly"?
Oh, never?
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>>1983608
People say duopoly all the time, you must just hang out in mid-iq circles
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>>1983605
>>1983614
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>>1982425
scandi sounds like hell, I've heard if you want a folder there's only bromptons and you have to wait 8 months for delivery
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>>1980689
Of I'm doing it every day I want to at least enjoy the ride. Mid to low-tier 10 speed is the worst I'll do for a commuter.
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>>1983641
Well, in Sweden there's an actual monopoly by Monark-Screscent.

You can get "a" 16-20" folding bike off the shelf, may be a 1700 € Brompton, may be ~500 € anonymous brand or some mega hipster electric assist cough up 4000 € kind of deal. 24" with hinged frame is hardware store tier but those are hardly portable.

This is what I mentioned before, surely a common configuration Europe-wide? Sadly I have no Idea how the price would have compared to a 3 speed.
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>>1983825
>anonymous brand
Generic brand
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>>1980551
>plastic slave labour gears you need to charge, for the low low price of $8999,99
No thanks, retard
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>>1983825
just bought me one of these bad boys for $29. has a sachs torpedo on it. i dig the atomic age chainring design, too. seems of high quality. expected to swap out the 1pc crank, but it seems pretty bombproof.
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>he doesn't have step-less shifting
I pity the fools who limit themselves to whole numbers when selecting a gear.
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>>1986356
Is it a 29"?
If so, enjoy trying to find new tires that aren't 35mm or wider.
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>>1986367
nigga what.. you can just run 700 tires on old 29s
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>>1986392
btw those are 26"x1⅜
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move aside, everyone
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>>1986356
I just fiddled with this thing a bit and put about 10 miles on it. I like the Sachs better than my SA. Now I need to find another donor bike with a Torpedo for backup parts.
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>3 speed rear hub
>tensioner pulley
>2x front chainring
>barcon shifters

this would be cool. would this even work?
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>>1986581
>shittyness of an FD
why?
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>>1986679
>basically free/cheap
>street cred with hipsters and retards
>6 gears instead of 3
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>>1986581
>>1986715
Does that work chain-wise? Your old chool derailleur chain is 3/32" (2.4 mm) wide and IGH/single speed is 1/8" (3.2 mm). Both have 1/2" pitch though.
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>>1986758
>>1986758
Apparently Sheldon Brown did it first and had had a 63 gear Sturmey/3x7 setup, but he fitted a cassette to the hub
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>>1980531
I'm kind of a noob, doesn't this type of hub make a "clicking" sound as if im not pedaling while I'm on 2ns or 3rd gear? If so, can i silence it?
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>>1982253
Are you that guy who made the "going Portland to Portland on a 3 speed" youtube video?
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>>1987172
>can I silence it
No, it's part of the charm
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wonder how old these are. 30s?
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>>1986759
I recall this, very based. He had aerobars on drops with 3 barend shifters
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>>1986581
I think about this a lot. But it's a lot worse than just going 1x with a rear cassette.
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>>1986758
The chain attached to an IGH is yours to choose. Typically it's 1/8 yea but there's nothing stopping you from putting a 3/32 cog on it.
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>>1986356
after a week of daily penetrating oil applications, i finally got the lock ring to budge on this crescent/torpedo and serviced the bottom bracket, headset and front cone bearings. the front hub was a a cool old american made wald. not going to attempt an overhaul on the sachs until i have a backup hub laced up and ready to go, but i did drip a quarter ounce of atf in it. took the front brake off for now, but i'm going to probably drill out the fork and fit a modern brake as per the suggestion of another anon. this thing rips, i love it. i'm torn between doing a complete tear-down and restoring completely, or just leaving it ratty.
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>>1988811
More like 60s - 70s, maybe even later. European militaries had the idea of bicycles as the backup* and last leg** solution for infantry mobility for surprisingly long. They just kept ordering more of the 2nd WW spec bicycles with very little chage for interoparability and afterwards the same factories have made them for nostalgia market.

*while expropriating civilian trucks
**all terrain trucks prioritized for special forces and artillery
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>>1989119
that's kinda crazy the machinery and tooling used to make a lot of that shit still existed at that point
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>>1980531
You're probably right. I need a gear for climbing steep hills, a gear for variable incline/low speed, and a gear for flat/downhill/high speed.
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>>1989075
ratty?
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>>1980531
walk up hill
its a nice change
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>>1990850
rusty. dirty. scratched up. etc. ratty.
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>>1990855
if god wanted me to walk he wouldn't have invented the internally geared hub
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>>1990919
>Torpedo
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>>1991125
>Torpedo
?



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