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Is grant petersen's quote still true?
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Just as steve's quote has been taken out of context and turned into a weird meme, I believe grant's garbage about unracing has also been memeified beyond any coherence. There is literally nothing wrong with going faster
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Sorry, OP
Even though it was on page 10, someone bumped the existing "Grant thread"
There's still plenty of shitposting to be done in over there, no need for a fresh one
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>>1986058
Bullshit.
>have steep hills all around me
>slow riding, under your prefered power output sucks mayor balls
Literally the fucked up hippies of the cycling sport
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>>1986073
obsessed

>>1986097
sports are for faggots
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>>1986058
>visor
What the fuck is the point of those? You're gonna get a sunburn on your scalp.
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>>1986097
if you ever look at pics of grant he has gears, it's his dimwit followers who buy his shit because it's a yuppie flex not to ride, or who don't buy his shit because they don't ride but they heard he was an "unracer" on the NJB youtube channel. if you listen to how those people talk about bikes it's clear they've never used one to get around a city, because the all live in some exurban mcmansion hell in texas and are underage and they just do the "urbanism" shit to piss off their parents, as soon as they get old enough to buy a car of their own they'll be murderous road raging SUV karens with the best of them

>>1986124
look into 5AR inhibitors my friend, you're welcome
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>>1986126
Your hair isn't as thick as you think it is.
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>>1986128
it takes 3 hours for me to air dry my hair after a shower
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>>1986118
>sports are for faggots

Rent free.
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>>1986090
this dude is 70. he sure doesn't care about racing but he seems to care enough about fillers. wrinkles and hair transplants. or maybe he actually looks this young thanks to his life and cycling philosophy.
>>1986135
because they're greasy as fuck
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>>1986073
Who's Steve? We're talking about Grant
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>>1986195
>Who's Steve?
pic rel.

>>1986118
>sports are for faggots
t. fat fuck
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>>1986195
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>>1986194
it's understandable that you would be jealous of people with hair but greasy or not, it blocks the sun
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>>1986141
>>1986196
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>>1986210
I don't get it. Literally who?
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>>1986247
No idea either.
I was looking through my Grant folder, and couldn't find any pictures of a guy named Steve.

>>1986194
>maybe he actually looks this young
Yeah, that picture is from 2012.
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>>1986247
>>1986271
That Steve is a prolific music producer that worked with Nirvana and other cultish bands, and had a couple edgy bands himself. Kinda the Sheldon of /mu/.
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Riding in jeans is hell
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>>1986058
>Dutch bike

Ayo aren't these bikes for women? lol
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>>1986293
Unracers wouldnt know because all they do is stroll 3 miles to the next cafe doing 10mph max.
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>>1986058
Why is his eyes so red in all his pictures?
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>>1986342
What ever are you talking about?
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>>1986090
Just two young Tunisian man on bike ride
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>>1986141
Greasy hands typed this
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>>1986402
meant for >>1986118
obviously
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>>1986090
This one is getting stale too, we Need a fresh thread with a slight variation on the grant theme and a rare grant pic in op
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>>1986430
>This one is getting stale too
Yeah, I don't know about that.

On the plus side, looking up "Grant" in the archives turned up so many of my shitposts over the years.
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>>1986403
dainty faggot hands typed this. meant for this dainty handed faggot i replied to here.
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>>1986058
>Giant Contend: $800
>Giordana short sleeve road jersey from wiggle co dot uk: $35
>Louis Garneau bib shorts from trashbar dot com: $50
>Bontrager Stravos Wavecel helmet: $90
>Cateye computer: $40
>Total: $1015

>Rivendell Vrouwfiets: $5500
>OD+SDA "Kasezome" Indigo x Dorozome Sashiko Jeans: $340
>Iron Heart 11oz Doublecloth Selvedge Ombré Check Garrigue Tradesman Shirt: $475
>Anton Krupika x Snow Peak 3-layer Rain Visor: $175
>OMATA One Steampunk Analog speedo: $550
>Total: $7040

Yeah it is totally the mean, judgmental roadies who are being the elitists here
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>>1986430
I have photos I took through his window of him getting dressed
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>>1986210
>>1986292
I almost went to the same high school as him.
Love that tune about throwing a girl to into frenchtown pond
>He's got the 8 track playing..... REALLY FUCKING LOUD
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>>1988045
Hot
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>>1986058
this but replace the jeans with a good jacket and the dutch bike with an old mtb and its trueer than ever
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>>1986333
No. They are made for riding slow through a dense flat city traffic.
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>>1986058
>*charges you $5000 for an obsolete piece of shit in your path*
nothin personnel kid
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tells you a lot about his character that he bases his purely capitalistic marketing approach on shitting on what others enjoy
peak neoliberal faggot
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>>1986346
When you realize Grant is stoned out of his mind 24/7 you begin to understand Rivendell
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>>1994224
where's REEEE THE MARIHUANA JUNKIES REEEEEE guy when you need him
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>>1986058
He's actually right
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>>1992590
He’s not. His point is that Anglo bicycling culture is fucked, stiffed between families going 12kmh on the footpath swerving side to side, extreme lycra racers and full sus mtb. I don’t think Riv frames make any sense for anyone, but Grant knows how to take the middle path and I trust his opinions.
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>>1994563
>make sense

they make sense if you have a handlebar moustache and haul a 1940's typewriter into starbucks to write poetry
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>>1994571
Sure, but there are better value frame options for casual riders, regardless of how hipster you are. Obviously, value isn’t always a key part of a purchase decision. I just don’t find what their offering worth it, and I ride a Velo Orange Rando frameset, I’d consider myself in Rivs target audience.
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For less than the cost of a rivendell you can get 3 decathlon bikes which you will enjoy much more
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>>1994708
Or just find a nice lugged frame on eBay.
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>>1986293
How so I commute in jeans on a mountain bike never had issues other than a cheap pair I had ripping on the sprocket
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>>1986058
15 years ago, road bikes had narrow 25mm tires and a brutal 39 x 25 hill gear. They were designed for athletic sufferfests. Who is defending that exactly?

Modern road bikes have evolved to fit comfortable 35mm tires, even people racing routinely spec 28,30,32mm tires and the gearing is usually a very wide 11-34 cassette with a 34 or 36 chainring. The entry level road bikes have rack mounts.

You won't find anyone saying oh lets go back to mid 00s road spec. Of course not. But there's some kind of strange cognitive dissonance towards people who actually suggested the change before it happened. You should be thankful.

I think the anger is not actually towards what a bicycle should be like, but how a bicycle might be used (for transport, or, for casual fun). $5000 taiwanese gaspipe shitters are an absolute red herring. Most unracers spend less than $500 and ride something old. The fixation the hyper expense of boutique unracers stuff is basically just projection by people who are deeply insecure about cycling and need to signal their wealth while doing it so as to not be viewed as a bum or a child.
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>>1994720
yeah, and then cold set it
>15 speed
>how...?
>oh, you can't really see the second ring in the picture but it's a triple crank
>3x5
>5
lol
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>>1994732
>tires and a brutal 39 x 25 hill gear. They were designed for athletic sufferfests. Who is defending that exactly?
Me. I want a bike designed for athletic sufferfests.
(Of course, fatter tires and lower gearing have made their way into the pro peloton because they generally allow riders to work harder for longer. On the other hand, I have a 2004 CAAD and it's fuckin great.).
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Hybrid bikes are so cheap now. They are cheaper than even women's bikes
Like a Trek FX is less than most grandma bikes
It's only a question of Road bike vs hybrid bike
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>>1994732
There is no cognitive dissonance, the changes were possible thanks to hydraulic disc brakes and increasingly precise 11 speed, 12 speed, now 13 speed cassettes. All things hated by the retrogrouch and the unracer. Furthermore, the hostility towards idiots who performatively spend more than the average crabon fred on something slow and heavy is fully justified. Being a snob about being slow is worse than being a snob about thinking you're fast while actually being slow. At least the latter guy wants to improve.

Don't forget, Hitler loved animals.
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>>1995486
> improve
Improve what exactly? Why does owning a carbon bike improve you? All I hear is the screeching of a certified fred in his pain cave.

Grant never said you should ride slow just because you're slow. He wants you to ride as fast as you feel like, because you want to have fun, go nice places and exercise. Not cause you want to do some Strava bullshit. Grant did nothing wrong.
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>>1995489
Look at how angry you're getting over the idea that a fellow pudgy slowpoke might not actually be PROUD to be a pudgy slowpoke. I believe aussies call this "tall poppy syndrome". Go buy your $5000 surly from a washed up hippie in walnut creek, knock yourself out, just remember that to cagers you still look like you got a DUI and you're "blocking traffic", same as the rest of us.
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>>1995498
You don't know what tall poppy syndrome is. Nothing I said was bragging and I don't care how you want to ride your bike, only that you should have fun doing it, whatever that means to you. You're inventing your own persecution. Sometimes I dress up in full kit like the average club faggot and ride, most of the time I don't.

On a side note I find the cagers are a lot more polite if I'm wearing athletic clothing, as opposed to full kit.
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>>1995513
>wearing athletic clothing
Who the fuck you think you are, Larry Bird? This isn't the NBA super bowl, uuuurrrrgh this extreme sports athlete anglophone anglo american uuuugh AMERICAN competition sports culture is RUINING my fun STOP BEING BETTER THAN ME this is spozeduh be a JUDGMENT FREE ZONE
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>>1986210
RIP ;_;
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>>1995486
You're not going to be slow because you're only rocking 2x9. That would happen because you're slow.
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>>1995825
This thread will live on
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depends on where you're cycling. In a city? He's probably correct since you will be stopping a lot at intersections crossings, etc.
If you're riding on actual bike paths without stopping for miles? A road bike will be much more fun and much faster.
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>>1995486
you can certainly find ways to despise unracers but you cannot deny that they were advocating for changes to road bikes which have now happened, which you probably appreciate.

The broad sentiment that road bikes should not be as brutal as they were, came from unracers.

Progressing technology bought in these changes, yes, but the more significant thing was the popularity of gravel bikes, which for a while ate up a chunk of the road market, and made these aspects appreciable to normies and richfags and has now been assimilated into it.

Road bikes having wide tire clearance, that especially, is not an inevitable factor of the progress of technology. Long reach dual pivots could easily have achieved the same thing en masse on entry level road bikes 25 years ago, and there are equally many ways in which it might still have been avoided, including aerodynamic arguments. Your actual road race bike is not going to fit 35mm tires, but the consumer models do.
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>>1995486
likewise, wide gearing is not a new idea.
It has taken off on road bikes due to technology at the top end allowing close steps and wide gears, but should have been more broadly introduced to the lower and middle of the market LONG ago, we had the technology, to pretend otherwise is delusional.
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>>1998867
this falls apart when you realise how much easier filtering traffic is on a road bike [with highish bars] because you're that much more narrow



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