>be airbus>do nothing>stay winning because your only competitor can't build anything except a rehash of a 60 year old design that keeps nosediving
>>1989995>buy an Airbus A320 Neo for your airline >choose to equip the aircraft with super efficient PW1100G engines that are unique to the Neo>the aircraft delivery date is delayed due lack of engine availability >the aircraft finally receives its engines and is delivered >said engines proceed to explode after only a handful of flights, your A320N is now grounded and a financial black hole.
>>1989995I hate this gay world where small point to point airplanes are betterI wanted bigger and badder jumbos
>>1990127We could have had a system of ultra efficient regional turboprops operating from every single little local airport feeding giant hubs specializing in funneling in all the feeders and putting people on massive jumbos to other hubs where you reverse the process and take a puddle jumper right to your destination.Instead we got a moderate amount of medium sized airports located somewhere outside a city that require everyone to drive themselves there in cars just to sit in some sort of A737neoMAX that brings you to a "large" airport that doesn't excel at anything, and unless you want to stay in NY/Chicago/LA you have to get on another 3x3 shitbox to bring you to a medium sized airport somewhere kinda sorta near your destination.What happened? American perspective obviously but is it any different anywhere else?
>>1990074the cope is strong with this one
>>1990143Your idea means 2 connections (unless you live near a hub)Current system is set up for 1 or no connections for most domestic flights. I'll take that one
>>19901471 connection and a pain in the ass drive on either side
>>1990146that's not copeJetBlue N2048J has been parked for months because of that
>>1990157Not for me
>>1990184It’s a big problem for airlines atm that’s mostly gone under the radar, a United A320N’s engine exploded after only 4 revenue flights recently.
They're called Boeing because that's what the plane does when it inevitably crashes.
>>1990074So you're saying that not only Boeing is an unsafe failure but now P&W can't put together a working product as well?WTF is wrong with corporate America?
>>1990201I mean GE seems fine rn (which is ironic considering people blame Boeing’s current business philosophy on Jack Welch’s influence) but Pratt is really struggling with fan blade durability issues on the GTF series, which happens to be the A320 Neo series engine of choice. Moral of the story is to buy LEAP instead.
>>1990074>your A320N is now grounded and a financial black hole.That's for P&W to cover, not you (yes they will pay your estimated losses from downtime due to engine issues on those new geared turbofans). From what I remember those issues only affected the smallest engines and have otherwise been fixed. The whole family of GTFs gives you >15% more fuel economy which is huge.
>be boeing>do nothing>stay winning because your only competitor can't build anything except rehashes of a 40 year old design and an "extra wide body" that isn't wide enough
>>1990187Typical boomer mentality.
>>1990204GE teamed up with SNECMA/Safran tho
>>1990204Ironically, RR's XWB-97 engines also have durability issues, especially in in Dubai's climate, where their would-be largest customer is located. GE and Emirates are the reason the 777X could survive its 5 year delay.
>>1990304>be A350>clean sheet design>in service>be 777X>update to existing design>lol
>>1990387At least the 777X is somewhat innovative despite being a derivative of an existing airframe, it has funky folding tips while the A350 is a larger but less ambitious 787 clone which uses less carbon fibre.
>>1990478Huh? How isn't the A350 innovative?
Ahem. Also 737 Max's seats was a nightmare; specifically designed to make passengers uncomfortable so I am glad with Turkish airlines decision.
>>1990656>737 Max's seats was a nightmareI though people on this board were somewhat less retardedPlane manufacturers are not responsible for seats, the airlines choose and install those.
>>1990478How new the "basic design" of an airplane is is important. The more recent it is, the more reliable the plane can be based on various new technologies and experiences.The A350 was designed with 21st century HPC and has the most powerful computers of our time, but the 777X is an improvement on a product developed in the Game Boy era, and some of the avionics are probably antiques.
>>1990478>it has funky folding tipsi give it 6 months after entry into service for one to fall off, jam upwards, or otherwise move undesirably during flight.
>>1989995Superior European engineering vs Americuck Profiteering
>>1990074Americans cant even build engines kek
>>1990304Winning is when your plane is still not in service
>>1990127yeah so do the airlines it turns out. airbus killed the A380 too early.
>>1992675If jumbos are making a come back then why did Boeing just stop manufacturing the best plane they've ever offered?
>>1990074>Can't build plane>Can't build engines either
>>1990074P&W GTF series has problems across the board, and it's not a problem isolated to Airbus. A big part of the reason Bombardier had to unload CSeries was the delays and technical problems caused by the P&W GTF, which was CSeries' sole source engine. Embraer E2 is also having problems with P&W GTF. Mitsubishi's termination of the SpaceJet program was also at least partially attributable to the P&W GTF.
>>1992675No one wanted them for ages and it wasn't viable as a freighter so airbus canned them
>>1990201DIE and BRIDGE... Basically far too many browns and blacks being hired based on skin color instead of actual qualifications based on colorblindness and suitability for the position cratering profits and QA.
>>1993464>b..b..but blacks and browns DAE the west has fallen muh DEI
>>1993464so did DEI exist in the 90s? Because the troubles began with the McDonalds merger, much in the past. The fruit of that misfortune is only bearing out in its entirety now. Companies on this scale don't collapse overnight if they aren't doing risky finacial shit, they rot. I would point to Intel as a less severe case.
>>1989995>>be airbus>>develop FBW 40 years ago>>tweak control of every newer plane so it flies exactly like a320>>planes basically flies it self, if it weren't for regulations pilots could literally watch porn and finger two stewardesses at the same time>>say that airlines can save on type rating costs due to every plane flying like a320>>regulators buy it>>airlines gobble your cum..i mean hydraulic fluid because they want to save money>>give too good to be true leasing option for airlines>>stay winning because your only competitor builds planes where pilot is expected to stay in control for more than 3% of the flight
Embraer should be wrecking those old farts
