>What bags do you use>What do you carry>Why are all saddle bags shit
Skill issue.
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>>1992693Surely that top tube bag under the saddle is mad annoying?
>>1992693Jfc just get a rack dude
>>1992693>>1992696you guys know there are frame bags that fit the whole inner triangle?
>>1992661giwtwm
why are we not getting a rack with panniers again?
>>1992738Because frame bags are more aero with a lower profile for when you're riding 30mph up those mountain goat trails.
>>1992738millennials/zoomers are mentally ill
>>1992661Picture one demonstrates how little you can carry in your vagina and arsehole.
>>1992738>why are we not getting a rack with panniers again?I ride both setups. One bike with classic rear rack and two huge side panniers + top pannierand a bikepacking ™ setup shown here>>1992693The handling on the bikepacking setup is better since the load is distributed all over the bike. The classic pannier setup is ultra rear heavy and pulls to the sides once you tilt. When I go uphill I wheelie way too easy.Tl;drRack + side panniers: more convinient but slow. Good for grocery shopping.Bikepacking with lots of smaller bags: great handling for faster and longer rides>>1992707>you guys know there are frame bags that fit the whole inner triangle?Yeah, but then bottles would have to move to the bars to be able to drink without stopping. Also possible of course>>1992696yes
>>1992661>>1992687>>1992693>>1992696but seriously how much do you think you can carry in this overpriced mess of setup? I saw some shittuber showing what he brings and it's even worse than what ultralight mental cases bring. He also claimed he had to sleep in same clothing and smell of shit because he couldn't bring basic hygiene items or spares. Are you seriously going to blow all that money on some bullshit bags just so you can be marginally more """aero""" but absolutely miserable at camp? Something is seriously wrong with people lately."Bikepacking" what a joke lmao
>>1992838t. Gets all of his knowledge from youtube videos rather than actually going out and riding
>>1992841or you know actually own a proper touring bike with rack and panniers
>>1992838Most """bikepackers""" ride from hotel to hotel so their camping gear is non-existent or extremely limited.
>>1992687>>1992693>>1992661>>1992822>The handling on the bikepacking setup is better since the load is distributed all over the bike. The classic pannier setup is ultra rear heavy I stil don't see why you would ever want that seatpost saddlebag montrosity setup when pic related is cheaper and works better. The weight distribution is practically identical to the saddlebag thing but this doesn't slap against your gay ass every time you ride over a bump on the road. No one is forcing you to choose between the retarded nu-packing setup and overloading your rear rack with everything. Just pick the best of both worlds
>>1992843Why is that bad? You guys are like /trv/ seething at people who stay in nice hotel beds and visit first world cunts instead of sexpat-infested "youth hostels" on Khao San Road. Not that there's anything wrong with shoestring travel but if you have the means, riding a bike and then taking a shower at the end of the day is nice.
>>1992901Touring without camping is just a series of day rides.
>>1992906Touring is a series of day rides too
>>1992899it truly is more aero than those gay saddle bags or even handle bar bags
>>1992822thanks for the substantive answer, Anon. still, why not get front and rear racks to distribute the weight? alternately, when i cycled across mexico with my brother, i just put a shitty rear rack on my 90s MTB and bungeed a daypack to the top of it. worked fine. accommodation was extremely cheap so we didn't need any camping gear.
>>1992693your apartment looks like an extraordinarily comfy place to chill out
>>1992738>why are we not getting a rack with panniers again?They look gay tbqh. Get with the times gramps, everyone is laughing at you.
Bags?
>>1992906
>>1992971I'd need to get extra racks then and dick around with fitting them to the bike just to remove them later. I use that bike mostly for short fast rides without any baggage.The handlebar bag was 10 bucks used, same for the fork mountig cages, 10 bucks used a pair. I'm fine without racks. The ass rocket was 60 bucks new.I'll be on a 5 day ride through the Italian alps soon and one of the riders has a tailrack like you pictured.>>1992838>had to sleep in same clothing and smell of shitbc he's an idiotTravel detergent exists, just use it in the sink on the campsite and wash your shit>couldn't basic hygiene items or sparestotal idiotI'll bring at least 4 shirts + long sleeve + rain jacket + 2 shorts + 1 long pair of trousers + all my hygiene and spare tube + pump and tools and still have room left.
>>1993031post what you bring and how you pack it
>>1992913>>1993027is this how bike tourist work now? stay at motels? LMFAO
>>1992687Anyone know what cargo cage or mount the fork bags are strapped to. It looks pretty wide.The trail bike is usually over packed. I use a rear track and a bag for all of my layers. Half frame bag with all the pocket stuff, spare batteries, sealant, and then a peanut butter jar with all my repair kit stuff in a water bottle cage. The rack is the T rack and has bottle cage mounts and I have the king cage mounts. Perfect for 5L bags or similar. I'd like to throw some other, larger bags there or out front on the forks, wondering if people use a cage with a larger foot to support wider bags. They aren't heavy but the weight isn't distributed as effectively as I'd expect.The casual commute bike it's one frame bag and a stem bag. Just enough for water snacks, and a small repair kit. I think I will put a light rack on there if find one for nothing.Road bike currently nothing. I want a saddlebag but just enough for tire levers, patch kit stuff, small multi tool, maybe a packable wind layer. I really don't like to bike specific clothing that much but might need to get a jersey or two so I have back pockets for keys, wallet, phone, and snacks. I could maybe see a small top tube bag as an alternative but it's my lightest bike and I'd like to keep it that way.
Inujirushi kaban handlebar bag. Love it. Pain to import, Nippon really don’t care about selling to filthy roundeyes
>>1993482why this over something like the acorn rando bag?
>>1993483Found them through Jitensha Studios. Imported from JP was way cheaper than Acorn, Berthoud, Swift. Ultimately it for my bike better too.
>>1992661shit what a nice bikergirl ass
>>1993487ah, ok. the one listing i found it was around the same price range so i was curious. seems like they aren't stocking any bags now, though.
>>1992738Good panniers/racks are overpriced, expensive and cater to the 'more money than sense' crowd. Cheap pannier racks are pointless and will sheer off at the bolts the moment you put any load on them and hit a bump.It's the same issue that plagues the rest of cycling products and the audio industry too. Buying cheap chinesium is futile, but buying good gear gets you gouged because it's aimed at middle or upper class clients.Bags on the other hand, while a lot of them are definitely overpriced for arty farty types. You can buy cheap and they work perfectly fine. You can get good rugged use out of them for a long time.I've used rockbros gear for two years solid. I don't drive or take public transport. I'm extremely impressed with it. Pic related, it's slightly upmarket chinesium and I overfill it and abuse it all the time. Never had a leak or tear. The straps obviously rub the frame but I don't care about that.On another note I've been looking for a good pet setup for a while. We get harsh weather 70% of the year but every pet product I see is fairweather and won't protect against the elements. Towing a trailer is out the question. Been looking at crates but i'm not crafty enough to create a proper raincover.
>>1992838>facebook
>>1993711>Proper rain cover Just buy a cheap plastic tarp and cut it to size? Ezpz
>/BAG/Bike ass general?
panniers and frame bags remind me of old people. I use a backpack. What backpacks do you non-boomers use?
>>1993711>Cheap pannier racks are pointless and will sheer off at the bolts the moment you put any load on them and hit a bumpNo one is forcing you to overload your rear rack to the point of catastrophic failure. Solutions like pick related are aerodynamic and give you storage space that doesn't wobble and flap around. If you stay within the weight limit (usually 25kg/55lbs), they'll never break. And even if you were extremely paranoid and only used 50% of that, you'd still have a very practical option for extra space on your bike.
>>1993764l2read haven
>>1993711there is an inbetween of a $10 amazon rack and a $400 ti tubus rack. how do you carry anything bulky? what if you have to carry a lot of stuff? panniers are great and don't have to cost an exorbitant amount of money, same with racks.
>frontcamping stuff>middletools, snacks, etc>seatpostclothesit was a 7 day trip
>>1993764That thing costs more than a Tubus though.
>>1992738Went from rack & panniers to rack & picrel on the daily recently. No pics of install bc currently in hospital bc murdercage attack.Reasoning: Never had, wanted to try next after trying several options for several years each. The weight penalty (together both are 2,6 kg) is not an issue on the daily. They are neat and can not be taken by some lowlife. When not in use and folded ultra aero. So no need to take off the bike and store when not in use to avoid theft and aero penalty. Also my panniers tend to accumulate grit from the road and sometimes water inside, as such I put delicate things to go inside seperately anyways. So the folding baskets requirement to pack things water and grime tight isn't exclusive to it.
Only pic I seem to have. Still using the same bags but carrying significantly less junk now.>front: old Ortlieb 22L drybag I had lying around strapped in a harness, camping gear and down puffy/gloves>fork: food (if no resupply for 3 days or more) or water in arid environments, otherwise nothing>frame: spares, tools, food, water>saddle bag: clothes & rain gear
>>1992738I may be on the point of taking the trailerpill, myself
>>1992693I like my Triban as beater upper, but can't image doing long tours on it.
>>1993818>>1993772I meant having the same setup as this >>1993772 but adding pic related on the back. Cheap, sturdy and aero storage space that has all the positives and no negatives.
>>1993901what feature does it lack for longer tours?I'm close to 10.000km on mine and really like it. Geometry is great and sufficient mounting capeabillities for extra shit. I also like the handle bar shape.
>>1993764>>1993920are those bag at the rear just regular drybags?
>>1993934I think the front end is a bit harsh on bigger pot holes or when riding over obstacles, while it handles the normal road buzz quite well. you have 32mm tires, so I guess it shouldn't be an issue for you with lower tire pressure. 10k on the stock wheels, not bad. my back wheel went out of true pretty quickly and mine came with the previous model where changing tires was really difficult.
>>1993749You don't cycle more than 10km.
>>1994119I just did
>>1994014yeah
>>1993749this one from uniqlo
It seems that nothing beats the Ortlieb handlebar bag for utility, but it looks super fucking dorky. Everything else is either a roll-top, dry-bag type thing. You can't quickly access your shit, or store electronics effectively, and you sometimes need a dedicated rack to support it. Handlebar bags are unnecessarily expensive too, with only cottage-industry type products that are 200-300$, (not to mention the import costs). Am I wrong? Swift industries sells the Zeitgiest, but it's so basic and suffers from the above problems.Should I get a frame-bag for electronics, and a handlebar/saddlebag for other shit? What's an optimal set up alternative to pic related.
>>1994389i feel like that is probably the optimal setup if you require that much space and waterproofing, honestly. having a contained unit like that which doesn't require a full front rack seems pretty good as long as it doesn't get too annoying brushing against your hands or whatever.on a side note i went from a top load only rack to a tara, and i really miss having a front platform. really feel like the ge is the way to go even in it is like double the price.
>>1994390That's a good point. That setup you see was a for a 7.2k km tour. It worked very well. I needed most of that space. But these days I opt for <1K local trips. The Tara is great, but I don't own those front panniers, so I am open for something front loading.
>>1994389jesus that thing must handle like a pig, at that point why not just get a trailer
>>1994395It was actually not bad, first month was tough, but I shed some of that crap, and I did 10% grads with relative ease.
>>1994116>I think the front end is a bit harshWhat bike handles that better in your opinion? I mean you can get a spring loaded stem. My friend did it and he likes it.I used to have a carbon bike on 25mm but it was way harsher than the Triban on 28mm. And now with 32mm I don't have any issues.My stock wheels are still perfectly true, suprising honestly. I have the RC520 model, which came with better wheels than the lower end versions I think.
>>1994222I recently bought this on a whim. How is it when riding?
>>1994119>t. saggy boomer
>>1994208What straps are those? If you don't mind me asking.
