YE OLDE editionPrevious: >>1985990US Mariners: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1lxDKFTLO4x771l06T9y331XYhlc6TqYj-hfhl91iXXU/edit?pli=1UK Mariners: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yjRTjwJRkW_wYqis7E-c9U0xTQZWLXbsP--2qgYKUdM/edit
>>2003913I got kicked out of school right before I was supposed to take the license test and graduate, so I joined the Navy instead. Ask me anything that will allow me to maintain my OpSec.
>>2003955what are the launch codes to the nuclear missiles on board any of the subs.
>>2003913Siu has me scheduled to go to piney point next year, should i just bite the bullet and go to msc?
Holy fuck FINALLY got a ship as ABBeen off for 6 months collecting EI and the neet ‘tism was starting to get to meGood thing everyone in the industry is a closet neet already so I doubt they’ll notice that I haven’t had human contact in 6 mo
>>2003955How much of a fuckup do you feel like?
can someone give me a rundown on how to launch a life boat/rescue boat/life raft?I have to become a 3rd mate in 24hrs
>>2004075>life raftKick it over the side>life boatTell the bosun to do it slowly and make sure no one gets hit in the head by anything>rescue boatJust don’t run it dry and make sure the plugs are in and have someone show you how
>>2003913>>2004090Hope you feel stupid.
>>2004093I got confused (´;ω;)
Anyone who prefers working in the summer to the fall/winter is a retardengies fix the fucking AC do your job
pocketpussy onboard: need it or keep it?
>>2003667Happened to me twice in the past two weeks, three times in two months. I wish there were a way for this to be recorded and they lose the first hour of watch pay or something.
>>2004108Well I worked with a captain who embarks at 5th month and disembarks within 9th every year. Not everyone enjoy rolling and pitching.
>>2004150that's gonna be me some day but the my dream schedule is sept to end of season
THOSE COASTGUARD FAGGOTS STILL HAVENT MOVED MY PAPERWORK PAST THE BACKGROUND CHECK AFTER OVER A MONTH REEEEEEEE
>>2004183bureaucracy in this industry is fucking wild, it's like they don't want people
>>2004183Yeah I have two guys on board with medicals pending and neither have seen any progress in weeks. Btw those white sheets are so retarded, we had to put one on our bow once to assist some navy ship for its christening (it had a minor collision the week before lol) and it pulled off almost immediately after contact with the hull.
>>2004057I feel like God has a plan for me and did this to me for a reason. I'm grateful for where I am in life. With that said, I am 2000% doing the Military to Mariner program if for no other reason than closure.
top zozzle
>>2004326What ship?
>>2004329El Faro you absolute newfag
>>2004330Huh. Weird, i thought about it from the description but didn't remember the "Scooby Doo voice". The retard captain going full Karen wanting to speak to dispatcher's manager (iirc) was shamefully hilarious.
>>2004183This entire industry would be 1 million times better if the NMC wasn't so understaffed. It took me 2 months for my MMC to come back all that time for those lazy retards to open up an email and read a pdf btw. Though i suppose this is the consequence of it being such a niche field of employment in the USA
>company doesn’t pay for travel to and from the shipThe fuck is this now?
>>2004524You go and knock knock your friend ITF.https://www.itfseafarers.org/en/contact-us
Bump
>>2004997Is this baltimore?How could the capt fuck up so badly
Anyone know how to go from being an engie to having a normal life and job? Feel like an outcast mental patient freak, i want a normal job i think.
>>2005017Wypipo don' season dey harbors.
>>2005030Why would you feel like an outcast? Most normies probably think working on ships is cool
Good morning deckies and engies have a good view of The Mountain of Tariq!
>>2005319>Do NOT use
>>2005371Can we talk about the runaway use of safety stickers and placards and bulletins? Just had to tape up a sexual harassment warning in every room. Pretty soon you're not going to be able to see the walls with all these fucking things. Very un-aesthetic.
>>2005461the old faded ones with non-english languages written underneath are soulful
Will a dui conviction keep me from getting a twic/mmc?
>>2005528If you are less than 7 years from completing whatever sentence you got from it, then yes.
how competent do you have to be as a brand new 3rd officer
>>2003913Has anyone done the JobCorp program? I’m a poorfag and I’m 19.
>>2005557That's gay
Is this a good industry to get into if I'm a sensitive young man?
>>2005674Not really, you have to take a lot of shit
>>2005701I meant like the romantic kind of sensitive, not the crying if someone calls me a faggot sensitive
>>2005703Yes definitely, get out here
How much money can I make as an electrician on one of these shipsI was in the navy years ago, I was a gseI know msc posts their post scales, but gcaptain says msc is just terrible and somebody new to this industry should go literally anywhere else
why is this industry so fucking dogshit
>>2005777What industry isn't?
>>2005788The catshit industry
>>2005777All could be forgiven if it just paid more. Wages just been too stagnant. Pic unrelated.
well bros my first time as a 3rd mate, 5 months in... so far it's a mixed bag.So far we've just been rotating around Indonesia and China transporting coal but the next voyage is Korea for Turkey (around Africa) and that's where I will most likely be headed home in 2-3 months. There were some good days mostly in Indonesia as both captains would allow the ship to be turned into a floating whorehouse, I fucked 6 women during our three stays in Indonesia but there were also hard as fuck days where I'd not get sleep for days, specially in china with all the fucking river maneuvers. Also the difference from the mindset of a cadet to one of a OOW is huge.been putting in work to my best ability and I think it's well received by the chief and captain, all in all so far proud of myself>>2005706filipino electrician on my ship has 5500 USD monthly
>>2005816Is that piece of shit a fednav ship?
>>2005966>anon discovers what outsourcing really means
>>2006012Outsourcing is bad.
>>2005852no, im a slav on a slav ship
>>2005706MFOW union lowest paying contracts are 9k a month
>>2005619I know some people who have done it, you can get your foot in the door with it i guess, the kids there are generally stupid but do it and work hard
>>2006274>MFOW>COVID vaccinations required for most vessels. >Full COVID Vaccination >You will not be considered for employment if you do not possess all of the above items.No thanks
>>2006277Are they still serious with the jab? When I was applying to one company, they said I need to be vaccinated for typhoid and covid. I took the former and ignroed the latter. Company seemed to also ignore the latter and accepted me.But that was in Europe.
>>2006328That's just what their website says
>https://files.catbox.moe/nn1qds.mp4Wobbie I'm tired...
>>2003967>Yankee-Oscar-Uniform-Romeo-Mike-Oscar-MikeMessage is authentic
I think it’s funny that america doesn’t accept other countries tickets so all the other countries were like fuck you and don’t accept american tickets
There's been alot of chatter going around that Project 2025 will repeal the Jones act, is this just shitlibs screaming wolf or is it actually something to worry about?
what kind of automation do your guys' ships use? Allen bradley and siemens right?
>>2006805Well idk maybe but I thought he's always been a protectionist. Imagine he would expand oil and gas drilling too.
>>2006849Yeah so did i, but the way the media is talking about him nicely now that hes trying to go to war for israel has me suspicious
>>2006862Fellating Israel is his worst habit, to be sure.
fellas, am i gonna have a bad time on a boat if i got dat sleep apnea? its fine most nights but sometimes i just sleep like shit.
>>2004108People actually work during the summer months? Fuck me the reason why I join the Merchants was to get away from the Winters especially when I live in Northern Wisconsin where winters are brutal.
>>2006748From Cheeto Benito himself >>2006956Is that the thing where you have to wear a special face mask at night? Because I worked with an engineer that had that. Sleep deprivation is one of the challenges of the job, for sure.
>>2006748100 percent libshits crying wolf
What is it like to worth with women on board?
>>2007372*to work
>>2007372cute pajeeta, would impregnate
>>2007377I think she's Arabic.
How practical would anti-listing pontoons be on an ocean liner?
>>2007372Like working with a child
>>2007737no fun time then?
>>2007372Same as working with men but its more fun to rip on women during coffee time
>>2003913When will we get over the stupid social awkardness around drugs on board of ships. All of gen Z and millenials have smoked pot and sniffed one powder or another. Boomer cap'ns see you as a junkie if you even mention weed in a conversation while they're walking liver failures.If your not a druggie and can pass a piss test whats the problem.
>>2007744I phrased this poorly, i dont mean doing or taking drugs with you on board. I mean talking about it
>>2007745Who is dying to talk about drugs, unless you’re a teenager or retarded
what are the best cruise lines in the US that'll hire a newfag? looking to get into maritime work but most of the other options like msc seem pretty poor.
>>2007744>he doesn't consume hard liquor underway and hard drugs in port with the tacit approval and occasional participation of his boomercap'nAre you guys even sailors?
>>2007764Cruises are worse than msc, you sound like a pussy whos not willing to do what it takes
Im afraid to become a mate because as a wheelsman, the amount of visceral heinous shit talk EVERY captain spouts about the mates for even the most minor of mistakes whenever we’re alone in the wheelhouse is making me nervousConsidering as a new mate I’d be substantially worse than them starting out no doubt
>>2007744I remember there was a young guy working on the ferry I work on, they called him in for a drug test a week after he started and he quit on the spot lmao It was probably weed but they dont even fire you for that, they just scold youOne guy got fired for a drug test cause he was on crack which is crazy to me cause he must've done it within like 24 hours >>2008039people complain about everyone who has responsibilities, it's just human nature
>>2008039They just do it to release stress, doubt they even mean half of it
>Need to go get a drug test and physical to renew my MMC>Go to Concentra to do, got both done>Cool easy peezy, just gotta wait for the test results>Get a call today, they tell my results are in>Get them and realize those dumb motherfuckers gave me a Non DOT test>FuckEspecially when I told them I need a DOT 5 panel test and they said no problem, I wasted 60 dollars for the fun of it I guess. Also why are Non DOT drug tests even a thing?
Shout out to the filipinos, gotta be my favourite not white people to work with
>>2008278True, they're so much better than pajeets.
>>2008278I have a lot of Kazakhs on my boat I like them. The sea is the second steppe fr
How to not fuck up when dropping the anchor?Is it wrong to >slack the brake>the very second the anchor moves, put the brake back on>repeat until you get to desired shott. we just lost an anchor because the 2nd mate didn’t know wtf he was doing and ripped the bitter end outta the ship
>>2008465That will wear the break lineingCaptain sais drop the anchor x shackle in the water. Open the break and, from time to time, close the break to slow the chain and check how many shackles are out1 2 shackles before the final length close the brake enough for the chian to keep going but at slow speed so you can stop at the desired lengthRead your sms and company procedures noob.
>>2008489Read this: nigger faggot
You can do it anon, keep studying you can become captain if you put your mind to it!
>>2008537In the meantime I'm finally switching companies after 7+ years. Ready for better pay and a better schedule
>>2008489That’s the chief mates problem not mine
Why are engineers so hostile towards deckbros?
>>2008727Like the orcs in LOTR they've been tortured and corrupted by too much time in the bowels of the engine room... they deserve our pity
>Antillean Line ship appears to have hit a barrier under the Brickell Avenue Bridge in Miami, Florida
How the actual fuck am I supposed to memorize the colregsNot to mention all the extra inland modifications Like what the fuck, no one has it all memorized why do they demand you rattle it off word for word in the exam
>>2008752OOOOH DATS GONNA LEAVE A MARK!
>>2008788Looks like the tug's fault
>>2008793How could anything ever be the tugs fault? They literally just do what the captain says
>>2008805If the Captain told you to sink, would you?
>>2008807If I did it would be the captains fault
>>2008805>>2008810If the captain forgot to tell you to breath, would you suffocate? If the captain didn't tell you to stop, would you walk overboard?Is the captain really expected to micro-manage every single detail of what goes on on the ship? If I was captain I'd expect a certain degree of autonomy of my crew.
>>2008825when the captain has the con and is using tugs, telling them what to do while maneuvering the ship, he is in control of what they are doing and it’s up to him to make sure they are following his direction as with the helmsman You stupid faggot
do you guys take your pos’n from a rng and brg off the radar or do you just move the ecdis cursor and get the rng and brg from that
>>2008727Cause you guys fuck everything up then we have to save the ship from sinking or exploding
>>2008752Keep going. You're Good. You're Good. You're Good. You're Good. You're Good. And stop.
>>2008729Pity? It's a pity that stayed Bosun's hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Captain? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that engie has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over. The pity of Bosun may rule the fate of many.
>>2008878Maybe if you typed the exact opposite of that you’d be right
>>2008901Maybe if deckies job wasn’t the equivalent of handing a toddler an ipad during a dinner out. Deckies don’t do shit hut nearly black out the ship and then call down complaining the button no work. Fucking retards you guys can’t even use the fucking toilets right, fucking idiots. >durrr why red light flashing? What did i pressed what? Uhhh da button no workThat’s you. Fuck you
>>2008835Radar range/bearing is a reliable method.Taking it from ecdis is wrong, since you're blindly trusting the gps and missing the point of making a fix.
thinking about dropping out of the industry and going to school for aviation and become a pilot
>>2008916ESL or just perpetually so mad it's made you retarded? both are textbook engie tbqh
https://youtu.be/kDWBQeaeD4o
>>2004997Help me sir I am Indian!
Whats the worst mate you ever had
Two weeks into my vacation off a 5 month hitch ahh, yep about ready to commit suicide im going back to work
>>2009782you're mom
>>2009794Do you have a hobby?
>>2009854I lift weights and hike that’s about it, it’s mainly that i have no one to do anything with
>>2009934Find a gf then
>>2009935How do i do that, the only way I’ve been taught to do that in my formative years at sea is to go to the phillipines
>>2009936No idea, I don't have one either. Some people say that going outside and talking to people helps. I did that only to realize that I'm a boring autist.You can also trying going to Phillipines or another poor country, like Egypt.
So, I've just found out that sonar pulses apparently sound nothing like in movies/video games.Does anyone know where that iconic sonar pulse sound comes from then? Is that what it used to sound like at some point or is it just pure fabrication by some sound designer that caught on and now everyone is using it?
>>2009965how the fuck should we know ships don't have sonar
>>2009973That doesn't sound rightAlso I assumed this thread was just for maritime enthusiasts in general
>>2010053ships have radarthey have an echo sounder but the transponder is located on her keelsonar is for submarines
>>2010098>echo sounderIsn't that literally what sonar is, just directed downward?
>>2010102yes but on ships it's just used for checking the depth below your keel and using those soundings to cross reference on your chart and making sure where you are, or if you are dropping anchor making sure you have sufficient depth to allow for a 5:1 ration for length of chain put downecho sounders just spit out numbersusing sonar for collision avoidance is a submarine thing
Proposal to Use Meters on Forecast Charts>https://ocean.weather.gov/proposed-meters.php
>>2010655Good. I hope 'murricans will finally move to normal units instead of whatever fluid toes per square bobcats they have now.
>>2007764>cruise linesLol faggot lmao
>>2007744>All of gen Z and millenialsDon't lump me in with that shit. I am better and in their hate they call me a liar.
Any of you guys have or know someone who has gone from working ships to having their own company related to maritime?
>>2010688We use the imperial system to filter brainlets like you.
>>2009965Huh, never thought of that. TV Tropes says the common stock sonar sound is a British WWII ASDIC sonar, but I can't easily find anything to back that up
>>2010098Active sonar is mostly used by surface ships, not subshttps://youtu.be/AaO6jQEmfoY?feature=shared&t=40
>>2010813Friend of a friend from university knows people who went from working on ships to owning ships. But it's one in a million chance.
If you get this wrong you aren’t a sailor
>>2010984C
>>2010898I was thinking of buying a tug after i get a little more experience and connections
>>2010813Yes, i know a couple of themMost have companies related to shipsCrewing agenciesAgentTeaching Sailing and short sailing trips withtheir sail boatOne of them owns 10 tankersOther one has a small fleet of offshore vesselsOthers tugs or crew transsfer boats
CHE on a new tug. $150k per year, great schedule. Company contracts out all repairs on major systems. PLCs everywhere, random alarms going off all the time that are impossible to diagnose without mfg licensed software, company won’t provide it, mfg techs take months to show up unless the boat actually can’t do jobs.I feel like i get paid just to suffer and lose sleep. The absolute impotence is driving me insane. I know more about electronics and PLCs than any other engineer at this company but it’s irrelevant without the tools for the job. Got so frustrated I started looking for a shoreside job, realized I’d take a $60k pay cut. Decided to make some more coffee.The newest systems are so complex that even the service techs have no idea what’s going on most of the time. I hate this industry so much but I could never drive to work every day and only get two days off and make way less money. It’s such a trap bros. Golden handcuffs fr. Oh also Philippino crews are cool. Speak English and are friendly and communicative. Chinese crews have visible hate on their faces and shout gibberish and act like it’s our fault, don’t even make standard hand signals.
>>2011587What position did you look at shoreside?
what is it with working on the water and not being able to drink responsibly
>>2011600Power generation or transmission control operations. The guys who sit in an air conditioned room and look at screens of the grid and divert power away from poor people neighborhoods during emergencies or shortages. You need an NERC operator cert but I’m no stranger to technical tests and I’m good with electricity and generation, and the duties of a marine engineer are similar enough: monitoring systems and switching generators and transformers etc. That and chemical/manufacturing automation controls operator. In my region these jobs top out around 90k and that’s a hard pay cut.
Memorizing the colregs is making me grrrrr ANGRY!!
How close do you Tug guys live from port? Is it realistic to live 5 hours away if you do less than 28 on/off, i want to switch over from deep sea but don’t want to have to live in a port city
>>2008752Did they not hire a pilot at all?? Yet another example of corporate retardation that could have led to disaster
bit of a dumb question but i'm about to go on my first trip and i am boarding the ship on the other side of the world.im flying on a mariners ticket which has a 40kg (88lb) luggage allowance but max weight per bag is 23kg (50lbs).im away from home at the minute but need to order luggage now.i'd rather just have one check-in bag but i've no idea how much that is going to weigh.anyone can give me a rough idea of how much a 80l hold all filled with mostly clothes is going to weigh? is that likely to be over 23kg/50lbs? i honestly have no frame of reference for this. i'm not taking anything heavy such as boots since all PPE is provided onboard. and my laptop etc is going in my carry on bag.
>>2012257they're not gonna give you boots you fucking moron
>>2012268If it’s MSC they will>>2012257It will be under
>>2012274>If it’s MSC they willBritish equivalent>>2012268well, they do
>>2012257Wear your boots on the plane, dumbass.
>>2012324what?i don't need boots. they provide them on the ship.
>MSC isn't hiring entry level anymore. They literally hired for a year straight, did they finally get enough blood to actually man their ships, or do you wager 75% of the new hires will quit when they get off of their first ship?
>>2012334>when they get offYou know damn well they're quitting the same day their relief doesn't show
wheeled luggage or nah?
>>2010655>sailors>use metersWho is this retarded? Do they have a metric brain tumor or something?
>need gcses for doing boat stuff Pissed.
>>2012437no, you donthttps://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/organisation/rfa
are my STCWs supposed to be recorded in my discharge book?i've done the courses but nobody said anything about this.
>>2012441Is rfa the only way without normal schooling then? I've had a look at it before but I might give it a proper go. Would like to hear any anons experience with it if they have gone through the RFA
>>2012329Have fun with probably the shittest boot the company will buy. Crap fitting boots will make you miserable.
>>2012442Nope, inspections always check the actual certificates.
FINALLY. these cocksuckers are the worst I swear to god. Anyone have any good study tips? Lapware seems to be the way to go for a lot of it.
Okay, which one of you was this?>inb4 r*dditI know. But I was looking for some specific information, and their maritime thing kept coming up in a search.>>2003955How did that happen, and how do I avoid that?
>>2012477For me it was the filipinos ranting to me about the Jacksonville negro league. I am not filipino.
>>2012483kek
>>2012450i've worn them already during training. they are actually OK just need aftermarket insoles.
>>2012446>Is rfa the only way without normal schooling then?If you want to become a deck or engine rating the best route is to do an apprenticeship. Able Seafarer Level 2 apprenticeship.this apprenticeship doesn't technically require maths or english qualifications. they are supposed to offer it as part of the curriculum for those that need it. as far as im aware the RFA is the only employer offering this apprenticeship who actually does this. commercial companies require you to have maths and english because it allows them to save money by cutting out the 3 weeks of maths and english from the course content. so i'd imagine the RFA is your only option.
Sorry for the dumb question but google didn't seem helpful. I just got an emai saying my medical certificate has been issued and mailed to me. After I sign it, is there anything else I need to do or just keep waiting? What else am I waiting on?
One of the maritime academies had their training ship docked in my home town recently. They let me on, and one of their students gave me a tour. It was breddy cool. boats r neat :)
>>2012598Already got your red book? Twic? STCW BST? If yes to all that then you're all set to go find a deep sea job.>>2012602:) happy4u
>>2012604Ah, the training. I'm looking at joining the SIU and they mention training. Is it the same thing?
>>2012614It's the same thing. I assume you're talking about the apprenticeship so just go ahead and apply even if you don't have everything in hand. Word got out about how they drastically shortened the program at the start of this year so the classes are booked several months out with guys that only hold a twic and passport. Or you can just skip the STCW shit (which would cost you somewhere around $1k out of pocket if you didn't get it for free) and go look for work on a tug right now instead
>>2012624Several months out doesn't bother me any, I'd like some more time to get mentally prepared. I think that answers my questions, thanks.
>>2012604>:) happy4udanke
about to go on my first ship and wondering what kind of knife i should take as a deck rating?i've got a leatherman and i know they supply you with a rigging set once onboard but it was mentioned that a lot of people carry their own knife.what sort of knife though? fixed blade? flip knife? serrated edge or no?
>>2013219Been doing this almost ten years and I still carry the cheapest folding pocket knife (usually serrated) I can find at Walmart. Anything more is overthinking it and will cause you regret when you inevitably drop it in the ocean/bilge.>>2012413Sure, why not?>>2011994Depends on who you work for. I live several states away from my homeport but I do 60/30. I'm changing to a new job that's 21/21 and gonna keep flying. If I did shorter hitches than that I think the frequent flying would get aggravating, especially now that our airports are becoming third world.
>>2013219Serrated edge preferred, better for going through lines Flip knives are betterDoesn't need to be expensive, but don't get some Ozark trail bullshit Dont spend more than $40 incase it goes in the drink.
>>2013219bread knife
>>2013342Real niggas know. I usually rec folding knives because they fit in your pocket much easier, but yes, nothing beats the bread knife for cutting line. whynotboth.jpg
Hows the canadian coastguard as a deck officer?Pay - work - time off?
>YE OLDE editionWhat I've been wondering for a while, how did big sailing ships navigate harbors before the advent of engines?Did they have rowboat tugs or something?
>>2013412Made the landsmen clench line between their teeth and doggy paddle to the dock
>>2007379Arr rook the same
>>2013353>nothing beats the bread knife for cutting line.an axe does
>>2013796Yeah, axes are great for cutting small lines that aren't under tension. Very portable too.
am i gonna encounter problems if i want to get into this through the siu / union stuff if i dont live near a union hall? as in, is that the only way for me to go and get a job or can i see available positions online etc?
>>2013869I think this is covered in the sticky but no, the SIU is certainly not the only route and many companies hire deckhands directly via their websites. But you need to have your documents IN HAND.
Any anons have experience working on cruise ships or yachts? I long for the sea but I don't think I'm cut out to be a merchant mariner
>>2013903yeah i get that, but i was specifiaclly wondering if i were to do the siu apprenticeship program, and wanted to take jobs through them, is a union hall the only option?
>>2013967My bad, I misunderstood you. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think it is the only route.
>>2013967When you’re a level 1 mariner the hardest is grinding EXP to level up. The big quest givers won’t take you because your level is too low. Once you’ve leveled up and specced into a specific class, you can live almost anywhere and the quest rewards will cover your travel costs.In order to grind EXP they made the entry level unions: SIU, SUP, IBU are the ones I know about. They run you through the tutorial and give you endless low level quests. The problem is that you can only accept the quests if you’re in HarborTown and wait around at the hall. In order to prevent bots from farming the quests they require you to be physically present and wait for new quests to be posted. Unfortunately some people who are just not able to level up beyond the tutorial instead figure out how to milk it for every little advantage, and because their account is so much older than yours, the hall gives them preference on quests. They get the high gold reward quests with little danger or work, so just starting out you’ll get the worst quests in gold payment. The good thing is that the exp is all the same and that should be your main concern. Once you level up to officer the real game gets unlocked, though at that point you’ll need to spec your character it’ll determine exactly what kind of quests you’re allowed to do. If you’re nowhere near HarborTown and can’t afford to move there, you should probably change class to truck driver and find the trucking guild, it’s similar to Mariner in a lot of ways.
>>2013967SIU doesn't post any of their jobs online. If you complete their program you'll have a bunch of endorsements, a rating that employers want, and just enough seniority to not leave the hall empty handed as your reward. Like >>2014006 said, at that point you can live almost anywhere and it won't kill you to visit your hall every couple of months for work
>>2013904If you're American and want to work on a cruise ship for the sake of just being on the water go on indeed or glassdoor and search for NCL to take a job with them as a dishwasher or whatever pussy shit they hire for on the Pride of America. Shit pay, shit hours, shit work, shit living quarters but your training is free, you'll get to see Hawaii, and have gay men and a variety of women (who will more than likely be inebriated and be of wildly varying qualities in appearances) throw themselves at you.For yachts mandatory watching: Below Deck Seasons 1-3 and assume you won't be getting nearly enough time to decompress in between charters as the show's editing makes it seem.
>>2003913Any other 3rd / junior engineers feel like they're eating shit constantly?Anytime i reach a point of thinking "that mustve been all the dumb things i could do" i break something in a different but equally stupid way.
>>2014067You can read all the manuals in the world but most of your knowledge will come from hands on experience. It builds on itself over years until people think you’re a genius, but really it’s because you with saw someone break it or broke it yourself before.My approach was always to be very cautious but occasionally go way out on a limb following a hunch fix stuff that others were stumped by. If it works out, you’re a hero and everyone loves you. If you break something, you’re a useless idiot. Thems the rules.If you’re an academy grad new 3AE then it’s kind of expected that you’re useless until you’re actually in the real world for a while. I have my 3AE but never sailed on it, i hawsepiped up to Chief limited 1600 on tugboats. At least on my boat if i make a minor mistake I can cover it up and fix it without anyone else noticing.
>>2013967You’re absolutely fucked if you’re trying to get an OS job with siu as a c card.90% of the SIu Facebook group is niggers asking “are there any C card jobs available?”and the extent of their maritime training is going to Bluewater maritime school in Jax. Your best bet would going through their program or sail with MSC when they reopen their hiring.
Why the fuck are there so many old ass OS that never became ABs and are just happy doing bitch work for 50 years?
Stepping out
>>2014182Why stack that high with all the open deck space?
>>2014182Goofy ahh bargelet lmao
>>2014067Find a 2nd engineer who is cool and pick their brain about every single pieve of equipment autistically and walk around and go through every single function of every thing on it, so if you’re about to do something you can logically run through why it will work instead of just praying.
Question. Is the "A" bit on a tugboat hollow or solid?https://youtu.be/QAmiU5M0shE?t=60
>>2014142>90% of the SIu Facebook group is niggers asking “are there any C card jobs available?”Holy shit this made me laugh. >>2014006Based and accurate as fuck. Good job. Gonna screencap and send to my IBU homies.
>>2014182Any more pics of this?
>>2014199>>2014399I thought it was ai slop but I think it's actually real. Supposedly it's being used by the military for target practice
o fuck bros my OOW oral exam is in a couple weeks what the fuck do I study and how do I prepare?
>>2014516remember lipstick
>>2014516lay back and think of ingerland bruv
>>2014520>>2014545so heckin' funny I spit out my cofe, truly comedy gold
>>2014516oral lmao sucking cock
Which one of you did this? I'm in tears.>>2005817
>>2014705fuggin kek
>>2014705Bridgebros...we're in
If go fast boats are used to transport drugs why not use them to transport legal cargo with similar value per lbs as drugs
>>2014985why not just build sea rails for sea trains
>>2014985>legal cargo with similar value per lbs as drugsLike what?Legal cargo very rarely has the same need for speed as drugs because there is no need to avoid detection and interception. And the timesensitive transports that do occur (organ transplants come to mind) go by air.
>>2014985The benefit of large ships is transporting a large volume of cargo consistently over a long period of time>fuel costswhich are insane btw for a ship large enough to carry 30K tons of cargo>speed limits>traffic>maintenance fees>safety laws n shitIs that enough reasons?
Ayo did you dudes hear about the crane cab that fell in Long Beach?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LR1wTlQLaXYhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/wv2yaSxoXyA
>>2015121I did not, but I heard a zero emissions ship was down there. Alette maersk. Impossible right?
>can't return to the company becase a position was taken by a filipinoIt's not like I even liked working there, baka
Why have they made it so you need 2 "modules" for "one year worth" of CPD training for the DP certificate renewal. Then there is a 6 month period before the next one is unlocked. NI amazes once more.
>>2015234Jews or poo retards made it to top positions in NI and try to milk officers for their hard earn money while not providing any valuable info
>>2006238SCF? give me a few good russian dry bulkers that pay good bucks, im tired working for westerners
I haven’t been on a ship in 8 months
>>2015458Have you done anything good? I am clawing myself apart with loneliness and uncertainty about the meaning of life. Atleast i still workout though and can get a few certs.
>>2015458I just got off a 5 month contract as a first time EOOW after being ashore for a year and a half. The feeling of dread, the days before my embarkation was palpable, but when I got there things started to slowly come back to me. So, don't worry bro.Not working with cunts also helps but there's no way of knowing that beforehand.
as a mate am I supposed to know how to rig/tie off a pilot ladder? cuz I don't
Welp bros, getting on a 6 week hitch in a couple weeksWhat kinos and vidya should I load up on?
>>2015681Europa: the last battle is somewhere around twelve hours long.Here's a site to download books. Makes sure you use the right file type for the programs you have.https://epdf.pub/en/
>>2015713>Europa: The Last Battle is a 2017 English-language Swedish ten-part neo-Nazi propaganda film directed, written and produced by Tobias Bratt, a Swedish far-right activist associated with the Nordic Resistance Movement, a European neo-Nazi movement.ebin
How hard is it to transition from commercial fishing to a real maritime job? Amazingly enough I'm not a retarded crackhead felon. Can get certs and pass background checks, tons of seatime. The biggest drawback is that I need at minimum a month on month off rotation. Running my own fishing operation for 4-6 weeks in the summer usally nets me between 20-100k. Too lucrative to leave but fuck I'm bored I have nothing else to do with my life other than work
>>2015875Tell me more about this lucrative fishing thingyHow do I do that
>>2015885cash de feesh
>>2015888Thanks im rich now
>>2015885A permit will cost about 150k and you probably can't get a loan without experience or being a state resident. You can lease a vessel if you can find one. Probably 20k up front and 20% of gross revenue. Or buy a starter boat for 200k. Then you put the net in the water and pick 100k lbs of fish. Then the hardest thing in your life becomes trying to find a job to occupy your time for 10 months out of the year because the money isn't good enough to build a retirement on but it's way too good to not do. Now answer my question
>>2015901Get the certs, join SIU or coldemail a non union company, join as OS and IMMEDIATELY beg to do some time on the wheel, get your steering testimonial and get your bridge watch rating, go back as AB
>>2015937What certs do I need to start and is it realistic to expect that I can get the time off in the summer that I need?
what's the general state of the industry like these days? I let my 2nd mate license lapse a couple years back since I quit the trade and started doing HVAC instead. Anyway HVAC blows and I'm wondering if it's worth sitting for the exams again to go back to sea in my 30sI've only sailed govt, the money was good and work conditions were pretty laid back but relief schedule sucked balls. is the work-life balance better commercial?
>>2016028you need STCW-basic safety, Proficiency in survival craft and a marine medical in Canada, America is probably the same since STCW is an international standard
If you had to choose with a gun to your head would you choose to work NOAA or SIU?
>>2016067Are there online courses available for STCW?
>>2016113I think some are partially online, but the govt is very strict about auditing it so I think that was only a covid thing and you gotta go in person now
Since you guys are away for months at a time, what’s your living situation like?It seems retarded to rent somewhere when every other month you’re gone right
>>2016028>>2016113Typical retard fishing trash. Literally all this information is freely available at your fingertips with an internet search.If you actually manage to get an MMC and STCW (lol lmao) you might get work with SIU and pick your schedule, but most companies that hire directly avoid people like you because fishing is your primary concern and you’ll bail on your hitch if they don’t cater to your special needs. That and you’ll be going in as entry level when you’re used to being a big deal on your cute little boat, and you really won’t like the reduction in your status.I have seen this play out before more times than I can remember.>>2016240I’ve known guys who literally live in a van down by the river that they park at the company dock when at sea.
>>2016243>I’ve known guys who literally live in a van down by the river that they park at the company dock when at sea.Do these companies that you guys work for have long term parking, or does everybody hitch a ride to the boat?
>>2016243>I'M A 100 TON MASTER
>>2016240I live with my parents's house and don't plan to change that in the nearest future. Surely beats life in a flat.
>>2016271Deep sea captains are just glorified bus drivers>ship handlingThat shouldn’t even be in the same paragraph as deep sea captain, they barely know how to put the boat astern
>>2016328That was actually the best one the prompt generator could spit out without using terms like "parallel parking" for mooring so I took what I could get
>>2016331every time I go on r/merchantmarine it's flooded with these niggas that I wouldn't trust to tie a shoe correctly, complaining in jive speak about how there's no boats or how hard it is to get a boat as an OSthese people went to SCHOOL just to become an OS that does bitch work and they can't even get hired LMAO is this some jones act shit? everywhere else is dying for people, I can't stop the SIU calling me 24/7 but i'm about to get my mates unlimited ticket so fuck 'em
>>2016364>these people went to SCHOOL just to become an OS that does bitch work and they can't even get hired LMAOYou'd think they would've figured out they can search the gulf for work at a private outfit or someone would've told them to look at local tugs and barges. But whoever put them on shipping -usually dey uncle/cuzz who's a "cappin" or bosun-probably doesn't know anything outside of SIU/MSC or the fact that over the past year entry level shipping contracts at either place have become practically unobtainium because of the sheer volume of entry level guys they've crammed into their hiring/training/job pipelines
Do any of you cucks know about ski boats? I'm looking to put myself into further debt with another depreciating asset. I'm interested in a wakeboard board (with a tower) around 21, 22'. I noticed a lot of boats dont have a normal chair next to the captain's chair. They have a bench facing the aft like pic related. I understand why this is, its for the person holding the flag. But I dont like it and I'd rather have a normal seat that can swivel. What are the search terms I need to use?
>>2015458I had to go up and unlock cones the other day. Only need the three high pole. Wasnt bad.
hey anons, i graduated high school a few months ago and im trying to get into the industry. should i go to an academy or the SIU apprenticeship? im broke and kinda stupid so idk if ill be able to handle college
>>2016511>AcademyYou're broke now but you'll be even more broke over 4 years. Worth it for a degree and unlimited tonnage license only if you're smart enough to handle college. There's a math placement test on SUNY's website for you to weigh the rocks in your brain. >SIU apprenticeshipThe rocks in your brain are too heavy for academies but you know that 16/16 jellybeans = 1 full jar and "the ship's hull is red" means that the hull is red. These guys will take you on a first come first serve basis and give you free training and seniority but you'll probably wait several months until you even hear to know if you got in or not.
What causes this
>>2016541>What causes thisThe ruinous need for speed. Note the extreme shittyness of the sealant. God help them
>>2016523i got a 6/20 on the math placement lolwhat path did you go down anon?
>>2003913Does anyone know of good west coast based training programs to get a QMED rating? All I know about is the AMO STAR program that's harder to get into than Stanford. It seems like deck side training for unlicensed is disproportionately represented. If I have to work in semiconductor for another year, I'm going to an hero.
>>2005619I've worked with some guys who came out of Tounge Point and they told me the instructor there was a hard ass but knew his shit for whatever that's worth. Be prepared to be surrounded by niggers and spics.
>>2006748In order to repeal the Jones Act you'll also need support from the Dems.
>>2007764Cruise line pay sucks ass and it's all outsourced to foreigners. Unless you want to work for ACL for $15/hour for 12 hour shifts 7 days a week
>>2016271>Celestial navigation>Never lost site of landWho the fuck uses celestial navigation in costal waters? Maybe 500 years ago in uncharted waters to check for latitude
>>2016734some old captains want it every watch for compass error
This is my last voyage to finish my apprenticeship after 1 year i am so tired anons
>>2016700I went the apprenticeship route because I couldn't financially do 4 years of no income. 4 1/2 years later, no debts, and am studying for my 3rd unlimited
Why are american lakers so beta and canadian lakers so alpha and virile?
>>2016703Is that AMO program really that hard to get into?
when you get your watchkeeping mate unlimited license what's better money wise?-3rd mate on a big ass shipor-1st made on a lil' 3000GT ship because the license allows me to do both, could also be a 1st mate on any tonnage ship in sheltered waters so have been thinking about that too, that's basically only harbor ferries/tugs right?I just wanna make as much money as possible brews
>>2016762noice
bumpYou're all good guys.
>>2016331>>2016364>>2016481Most of whats posted on r e ddit can be summed up in 4 types of post:1: "I have a completely unrelated meme degree, can i still use my meme degree and work on a ship!!??"2:"I'm a faggot or i have a vagina, will i be okay working around chuds on a ship :) thx" 3. "I have an incredibly specific medical condition can i get an Medical certificate?" bonus points if its for something like schizoprenia, 99% of the time you can get a medical certificate by lying on the paperwork. 4. "Sheeeit mane i graduated from bluewater maritime and i cant find no work mane!, who hiring in jacksonville sheeeit???" There is truly no shame in asking questions online but there is a billion different threads on that sub detailing the process of how to get started, and we don't need some roastie spamming every single thread to shill her fucking college.
why are engies so cringe and nerdy and deckies so chad and based
>>2017065How do I decide between engie and deck for a maritime academy? Deck requires less math, and that sounds nice. Do you get access to all kinds of cool tools/machinery as an engineer?
>>2017070well are you a nerd or a jock? there's your answer
>>2016240just go live in manila or bangkok or something lol, america sucksass
>>2017084both :3
>>2017063Joining the merchant marines??>"uwu Hi guiz im a MTF w IT certs and CS degree but i hate my job and i just found about this career from joe franta. A little about m my grandpa was a merchant marine durng wwii and he died of butt r .ape before i was born and i want to on ships bc i always loved teh ocean and water and i think it would be a cool way to honor him but my qustion is i was diagnosed w violent schizophrenia XD and i have history of self h*rm so will i be ok to get a medical card?? Will my degree and certs help me make more money at the start? On ships will i be treated ok as a transgender person? i live in Jacksonville florida if that helps. Thanks!">"GO TO MARITIME ACADEMY UR YOUNG MASS MASS MASS :)"
>>2017063>>2017118Lmao that one cunt who tells literally everyone to go to academy and casually drops that both her and her husband are academy grads and they clear a combined 400k/yr or some shit. She’s insufferable.I used to do detailed replies on there for people who were trying to get started out who didn’t seem retarded or gay, but I stopped caring. Haven’t looked at that sub in a year or more. >>2017070Deckies are dumb and don’t really do anything, but they get to be outside and wear polos and khakis on watch. There’s also far more competition for jobs and work politics for advancement, so they’re all very experienced at sucking up and manipulating and backstabbing.Engineers are permanently angry because they actually have do work every day and stuff is constantly breaking, usually because the deckies did something wrong. There’s a permanent shortage of engineers so you can basically take your pick of jobs and are highly valued (if not a retard) and never have to play politics or worry about your future. But, engineers are dirty and stinky.
>>2017163Shut up and clean my poo bitch
>>2017163>work politics for advancement, so they’re all very experienced at sucking up and manipulating and backstabbing.GAAAAAAY>Engineers are permanently angry>never have to play politics That sounds more like it. Thank you
>>2017216He doesn’t know what he’s talking about because he’s an engineerOnly valid point he made is that engies have more opportunities to transition to shore side eventually Funny story I was slacking a line by hand back aft and on this ship we had a policy where we had to call the ecr to let them know when we were powering on the winchSo anyways i’m letting out a bit of line by slacking it on the warping drum and the CHIEF ENGINEER came out of the galley and yelled at me for not calling the ecr. For using my hands. To slack. A mooring line. They really have zero clue on sailing or anything related to the field, they just know how to fix the shit pipes and come up to the bridge for no reason and be annoying
I happened upon an article outlining competition among seafarers unions in the U.S. essentially locked into competing with each other as shipping companies jump between unions to pay the least and merchant mariner captains and chief engineers making relatively little in pay for the hours and experience demanded along with few shoreside jobs for those aging out of the fleet. I'm still getting to grips with the status and makeup of the industry in the U.S. at least but I'm also interested in working in the prospect of occasionally working for foreign international companies if that's ever possible.Anybody here have better insight? The narrative seems to be that entry pipelines are full right now, but somehow young people are also overlooking the industry or leaving it early before achieving the ranks of the veterans aging out en masse.How much industry demand is there actually for new labor in the U.S.? Could the licensed unions along with the ILA and even SIU consolidate in the future and could magic government money/credit come along and justify higher wages across the board if the prime rate comes back down the next cycle?
I think I really want to enter the industry and work as hard as I can up front and get that valuable experience, and I have no prior experience, and I'm getting on in age now, but I can also see the other transportation sectors in the US have already negotiated their new contracts and union couriers on land, and even prior military are making relatively much more for much less investment.Still trying to figure out if a Navy or CG enlistment with intent to join the industry could ever make sense by any contorted logic.
going to be taking the tests for the siu apprenticeship program soon, anything to be particularly worried about or is it just a literal retard filter?
>>2017246Was it this article?https://www.theamericanconservative.com/shipping-out/It makes sense that SIU’s pipeline is full at the moment as they’ve been heavily recruiting for the last few years trying to make sure they have enough people coming in to cover their pension obligations in the future.Unlimited tonnage captains and chiefs make close to 200k or above. It’s not as much purchasing power as they would have had 30 years ago but it’s still quite good, especially when you compare other jobs that pay as much are things like highly experienced professional certified engineers (guys designing rocket components and such). The big problem right now is that it takes almost a decade of experience in order to achieve those licenses and the work force is about halfway through the boomer exodus. The academies turn out something like 4 deck to every one engineering officer, so the shortage is less there but it’s still a problem. Academy students graduate as 3rd mates or 3rd engineers so they still have years to go before they hit master/chief.As someone who didn’t go to academy and now makes around 150k I feel it’s worked out very well for me. I can’t possibly imagine driving to and from work every day and only getting two days off at a time. >>2017247 I’ve known a lot of ex CG guys who work in shoreside admin for maritime, but it’s not really an advantage for mariners. Military is only worth it for the GI bill, VA loan, VA disability payments and military hiring preference on some jobs.
>>2017241Well, I appreciate both of your input. Sounds like the deck get to do more sailoring, and the engineers keep everything working to facilitate that.
For someone that makes it a serious career, have there been people to get time in on both pipelines? I'm talking about enthusiasts taking both deck and engineering jobs on occasion to get experience on both sides, certifying for both deck and engine ratings before ultimately finishing on one branch of licensure, or is that straight up impossible?
Nevertheless the information has been invaluable.>He does it for free
>>2017423It's probably way more common on small boats. Personally I only knew one guy who held both unlimited oceans licenses. More commonly you'll come across unlicensed guys who went up the ladder in one department before switching and starting over in the other for whatever reason.
About to be an ET and only sailed electrician so don’t really know that much about bridge electronics aside from technical knowledge. For the mates here what normally goes wrong with your electronics? What do you see eto’s working on alot?
anyone boarded a ship in the Maldives (Male)?what they like at the airport?expecting an interrogation since it's an unusual port for crew transfers.
>>2017585Fixin’ the AC Also an eto gave me a water bottle full of whiskey when I was cadet so they’re based in my book
>>2017602What about ecdis, radar, radio shit? You ever had failures?
>>2017612Yes, any sort of malfunction of bridge equipment is a huge ordeal and we’ll possibly go to anchor depending on where we areThere’s redundancies, at minimum 2 ECDIS, 2 Radars (but we need x/s band anyway so we need at least 2) usually there’s more radars, vhf we have 2 minimum but same thing we need 2 one for ch.16 one for local vts (never had a vhf go down) echo sounder is less essential but there’s only one of them and it’s needed for anchoring so if that goes down it’s either high or low priority depending on going to anchor, Nav lights we have redundancies but i’d say they are the most likely to go, they are required and most ships keep them on at all times so they burn out quick it’s just replacing a light but it’s working at heights so that’s some paper work and harness’sSteering gear you either have two sets (one aux one normal) or two identical power units, if there’s a steering failure we are for sure going to anchor. Bow thruster generator i’ve had blacked out the ship because the grate for the cooling water the engineers never cleaned and it got clogged and the bow thruster overheated or something. That was fucked, immediately tied up in the middle of the channel. 2nd mate is “in charge” if the bridge equipment so he’s read all the manuals so ask him stuff but for the most part it’s nav lights. Most everything has redundancy but if we’re on redundancy we don’t want to be and need it fixed asap. Any bridge equipment failure it’s part of the officers job to report it immediately, the captain will probably tell the chief engie and the chief will send you up to the bridge. Like I said there’s manuals and schematics for everything it’s all on the bridge. As far as the software and functionality of the equipment you don’t have to know that the officers know, you just fix the power.
>>2017615Ok thanks seems like stuff i already know
Have any anons been lost to Davy Jones' locker?
>>2017661If you piss off the Filipinos you might not be there the next day and if anyone asks they’ll mumble in broken english about a big wave and shrug
Bros… I did it… I got my watchkeeping mates unlimited…
>>2017750High five, anon!
>>2016859Yea they have very few spots
>>2017750Any regrets?
>>2017840High five>>2017906Not getting it sooner once I knew my stuff, having so much anxiety about it
>>2017914>>2017914>>2017914NEW THREAD this one reached bump limit
