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general thread for general aviation and the general topic of aviation. in general.

-Sexual Tension edition-

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This place I'm renting from straight-up forgets to charge me sometimes. How does that even happen.
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>>2007661
How long have you been saving the NK B6 joke? Little late
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new thread was long overdue for me to spam pictures from work in
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>>2007661
>1967
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do you qualify for the atpl automatically once you hit the hour requirements or do you have to pay for it? or do you get it after a regional hires you? i still haven't quite gotten that
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>>2007752
USA or Euro?
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>>2007766
usa
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>>2007769
Its not called the ATPL in the US, just an ATP. when you hit the hours, 1500/restricted mins and all the sub categories (like 500 XC, 75 instrument) you can take a checkride for it. You'll need a written, and to take a written you'll have to take a course called ATP-CTP, which is sometimes pay for by regionals, but currently some do not pay for it. ATP-CTP can be taken at any point in your training, you don't need ATP mins to take it. ATP-CTP completion allows you to take your ATP multi written, it is not the written itself. If you take an ATP checkride outside of an airline, you'll pay out of pocket. If your airline hires you with a CPL, they will give you an ATP checkride as part of the company training (they'll pay you to take it).

In EASA (euroland) you can take your ATPL checkride as part of your regular training, and if you pass it, you'll recieve a frozen ATPL, which means that when you do hit the hour requirement, you can redeem it for an ATPL with no additional checkride needed. The details are lost on me, I'm not a yuro.
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>>2007772
that's better, i thought it was absolutely another expense no matter what
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the pros of a doody trip: being able to use the GA facilities to board a triple-seven
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>>2007869
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3 hour delays over EWR/JFK from wind/thunderstorms
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>>2007872
Traffic jam on the ground from routes not being available and a few returning to gate for more fuel
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>>2007870
if i were that pilot as soon as i got out of that plane i'd fuck the nearest human being
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>>2007872
Beryl gave one final fuck you, nice
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>>2007877
I need to get a DSLR my Thinkphone takes fucking ass pictures from a distance and my pics end up underwhelming as fuck
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>>2007661
I've been looking at getting a PPL and picking up a cheap beater plane to cut back on operating expenses. What are you guys experiences with experimental aircraft? I'm thinking of picking up a kit for a Kolb Mark 3, Challenger 2, Excalibur 2, or some other 2 seater LSA with a low entry point. I see finished Excaliburs going for sub-$30k pretty often and they claim $30/hr operating cost. All the ones I'm looking at have folding wings and travel trailers to avoid hanger/tie down expenses. Thoughts?
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https://youtu.be/peOQDmA0yWo
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>>2007870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcM7O9JYXKU
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>>2007752
you have to take a written exam and a checkride like every other rating.
If you go to a regional usually they will include the ATP ride as part of their training, so you'll do it in the sim
Theoretically you could do it in an Aztec or Seminole and it would count the same as someone who did it in a CRJ sim
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>>2007883
just get a beater 152 for $15k, spend $1500 on the annual every year and sell it for $15k when you're done with it
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EVERY female FO has a captain boyfriend. EVERY female captain has a legacy boyfriend. This is not an exaggeration
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>>2007924
>low end plane
>high end bike
hmmmmmm
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>>2007968
this Delta FO went for an Arab dentist gymchad
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>>2007984
>doesn't upgrade at OO
>gets first available class at WN
>barely out of class at WN gets job at DL
meanwhile everyone else will have to upgrade at a 135 to get a shot at a regional, upgrade at a regional for a shot at an LCC, and MAYBE get on a legacy seniority list to end their careers as NB CA's
I hope she gets sucked into a turbine on her next walkaround
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>>2007984
How does she fly a plane when her field of vision is so small?
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>CCTV shows LATAM Brasil 777-300 tail strike incident while departing Milan Malpensa Airport on Tuesday. The aircraft reportedly suffered significant damage and has been grounded since.
>PT-MUG was performing LATAM flight LA8073 from Milan to Sao Paulo Guarulhos but struck its tail onto the runway during rotation. The aircraft returned to Milan for a safe landing about 75 minutes later.
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can't wait for mouth breathing normie retards to blame this on boeing somehow (they'll find a way)
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>>2007924
>152
>15k
Where?
I see those starting at 60k.
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>>2007984
I remember this bitch, she's at Delta now? Not surprised, this industry is such a fucking joke. I just interviewed there by a panel of 2 women and a nigger who could barely speak English.
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>>2007984
I don't know who this is but I do like that she's making all the incels seethe
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>>2008006
They hire her to be an influencer not really to fly.
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>>2007984
My gf is an MD and I fly ag (I will prove it tomorrow if you /n/egroes want), whoa yeah breaking news high income professionals tend to date each other. Imagine being so insecure you have to do this on social media, I wonder if they’re actually both fags and are just using each others as beards on social media.
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>>2008078
You have no jet time
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>>2008076
Airline pay is going to fucking crater. They are flooding it with cheap women and immigrants who will take substantially less for the social cachet of muh airline pilot.
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>>2007984
>dentist
>using Dr. title
lol, lmao even
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>>2008096
>ag pilot
>high income "professional"
top fucking kek
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>>2008107
It’s two bucks an acre now. Money has literally never been better.
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>>2008109
>It’s two bucks an acre now. Money has literally never been better.
Neat. Enjoy early onset dementia and Parkinson's from inhaling all that shit.
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>>2008111
I never did ground crew. I never even see the shit in concentrate and mixed it’s basically inert, and ground crew does all the loading/unloading plus cleaning the plane
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>>2008076
>I just interviewed there
how much turbine PIC do you have?
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>>2008107
>>2008111
>>2008109
>>2008096
>AG
>"professional"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmhGrJJjI7E
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Another day another failure in the Russian aviation industry.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/07/12/russian-superjet-airliner-crashes-killing-3-pilots-reports-a85702
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>>2008205
>test flight
Were they trying to reenact some old-fashioned Aeroflot shenanigans?
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>>2008076
I just hit 1000 turbine and my regional just stopped force upgrade. Don’t wanna upgrade cause QOL is amazing right now. You think UA will interview me?
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>>2008196
>how much turbine PIC do you have?
Just under 1k. They told me no, keep updating my app. I interviewed with a group of 8 guys, the only ones who got it were prior/current military.
>>2008212
>I just hit 1000 turbine and my regional just stopped force upgrade. Don’t wanna upgrade cause QOL is amazing right now. You think UA will interview me?
Probably, just apply
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>>2008205
what's the takeoff/landing to crash ratio on that thing? got to be one of the worst, maybe even giving the 737 lawndart a run for its money
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>>2008222
I’ve been submitting my app weekly since I hit 800 hours and I haven’t heard shit. also I am prior military (not pilot)
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>>2008205
Video of the crash. Nasty fall. Makes me question the alleged engine failure though, but Russians have a habit of lying about everything.
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>>2008263
depends on the engine failure, think of the el al cargo crash in amsterdam or the american dc10 crash at ORD
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https://x.com/CoulsonAviation/status/1811880206602244200
What vandalism? Are they talking about the smoky exhaust or what?
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>>2007883
I guess no one here actually owns then?
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>>2008241
Did you check the Hispanic box?
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>>2008289
No lol just glorified bus drivers on this site. Id get a certified airplane so when you hire a flight instructor they will actually fly your plane with you. Also ships don’t wanna work on experimentals.
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Has anyone beaten this GS in a 172? Just over 1000TT, I actually got it to 184 but didn’t get that picture.
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>>2008289
Never owned one but flown a Challenger II. I would humbly recommend getting your initial PPL in a more traditional trainer and then if you're still curious about lighter homebuilt options then hang out around those guys at EAA events or Sun n Fun. I frankly thought the Challenger flew like shit but it was a ton of fun in its own way. I'm admittedly completely unfamiliar with the Excalibur.
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>>2008522
>Also ships don’t wanna work on experimentals.
I'm an MSME so I can do my own work under the FAA exemption for mech engineers. Plus experimentals let you do your own work without a degree or A&P anyways. So that's not a concern.

Why wouldn't a flight instructor make an input if they're in the copilot position? Doesn't their life also depend on the plane landing safely?

>>2008595
Makes sense. I guess I'll try a couple of rentals first to try a few different ones out. But I have zero intent on being a bus driver, I just want to get into aviation as a hobby which is why I was looking at affordable ownership. Really just going to use it for fun and small trips, so I don't see a point in owning something with a $120/hr cost like a 172 unless I can find an airworthy one for cheap (I can't).
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Just got a job at Etihad. WTF am I in for bros?
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>>2008602
Which to be clear, I'm not looking to justify the options I presented already. I'm open to anything under 50k (including kits or things with minor repairs needed) provided it's not some bullshit that needs another 20k+ in repairs. Been lurking barnstormers weekly looking for other options.
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>>2008602
I'm only suggesting a more traditional route of training, beyond that rip around in whatever LSA activates your almonds the most. Its expensive but primary training is the most valuable insurance you can get other than just never touching airplanes in the first place.
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>>2008603
What will you be flying?
>>2008604
Unless you’re content with a small useful load you’re probably going to have to invest more than $50k. Rent to obtain the certificates and experience, that way you can ham it up on a rental plane learning to land instead of your own. Then go out and do research on what airframe you’d like to buy for yourself instead of going into a $50K+ investment uninformed.
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>>2008610
>>2008612
Solid advice. Thank you anons.
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>>2008483
should i do that as someone of eyetalian ancestry? i think i could get away with it
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>>2008617
Good luck from the bus drivers, some of us enjoy flying GA planes too lol
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>>2007661
Do you guys want to see some pics of the l39 liquid death is raffeling off? I don't think I would get in trouble for taking a couple of pics of the decals. It in one of the hangers. It's pretty basic and the decals make it look bad
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It's like a dealer sticker. Would you leave it or take it off?
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Anybody in helicopters? Working on my PPL. I will get this, slowly but surely because I am poor. Going pretty well so far. Definitely loving it.
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>>2008709
How much time is left on it before overhaul? L39’s are brutally expensive to own and maintain. I would imagine even a relatively well off, already certified pilot would only take it for one or two flights then sell it. The problem is you gotta pay for the hangar after 6 months, so you’re gonna have to price it pretty aggressively to find a buyer that fast. If it needs an overhaul you are going to have trouble even giving it away.
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>>2007661
Planning on getting PPL (fixed wing), should I also do tailwheel cert. flight school will do training in Cessna 172 for PPL and Luscombe Silvaire for tailwheel.

Depends when I am done with college and the money that I will be making, but what is the feasibility of importing a Zlin Trener, Akrobat, Z-42 family or Z-43 family. Before you ask why the above, it is because I want a six cylinder engine. I am aware of the prices, as well as the cost to ferry to the U.S, but I believe the cost can be covered.

I am also looking at some domestically produced aircraft, specifically Champ, Ercoupe, Silvaire and Cub. I am open to anything that is not a UL/LSA, equipped with a V or T-Tail (or any of that snobby "X" or "Y" tail bullshit) or powered by a Jabiru engine and I am not looking for fractional ownership, Aero Club or rental.
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>>2008832
Correction, I am open to some UL/LSA, but only conventional ones and no Cessna 162 (death trap).
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>>2008048
tourist here. what the fuck is wrong with Boing?
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>>2008853
Short answer, nothing. The jew corporate press will do anything to sell a click. Longer answer, poor Quality Control post COVID. The so called MAX issues are just a 'thirdworlders are dumb as fuck and can't fly' issue. The 737 is an old piece of junk that should've stopped production in the 80s, but if you're not a pilot it makes no difference to the customer.
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>>2008622
Yes, absolutely you should. It bumps you up in the algorithm, interviewers don't see it, and its illegal for them to bring it up in an interview anyways.
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>>2008832
the fuck do you want a piece of shit six cylinder for
Finish your IFR after PPL then get multi/comp/hp/TW to make time building more fun for commercial.
Dont import a plane jesus fucking christ
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>>2007870
Someones butthole was beyond puckered that day.
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>>2008048
What happened here? Incorrect V speeds?
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>>2008870
If they'd told people about the feature then I would agree with you

They failed to do so and people couldn't figure out why the flight computer was trying to kill them in time. That's on Boeing
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man I do not work a real job
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>>2009103
Lack of basic airmanship. If it doesn’t want to fly, stop pulling back on the stick and let it accelerate.
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>>2009111
Why did you eat his sandwich anon? Thats fucked up
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>>2009104
Don't spew bullshit, this isn't a C172 that you studied a POH for a commercial checkride. Unless you're a B737 Check Airman, most of the systems are PFM and don't matter. If you know how to run the pneumatics that's already a high level of knowledge, and try not to shut off B side Hydraulics when reaching for the Engine Anti-Ice. Runaway trim is one of the few 737 memory items, don't pretend that MCAS is something magical, if you flew the 737 you may know that Speed Trim has been a feature since Day 1, and MCAS is a subsystem on it, not an entirely new system.

Meanwhile, a set of brown """pilots""" had a malfunctioning autopilot, and decided to turn it back on. Then they turned into a smoking hole in the ground. Is that MCAS, or is it the reason why you shouldn't fly on browno airline? My union will tell you that MCAS is scary, but the reality is, it's just another meaningless system on a dinosaur aircraft. There are so many more Max issues that STILL EXIST and you're going for the jew media clickbait problem.
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>>2009179
Anon, you do know you're arguing with someone who doesn't have jet time, right?
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>>2007811
LEJ?
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why do Americans do this shit?
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>>2009248
The only LAHSO clearance I've ever had was on DFW 18R short of A or B so I wouldn't violate the 13R missed approach path. LAHSO is hardly ever used and has so many restrictions on it that it's hard to ever use in a regular operation.
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>>2009256
Chicago does it a bunch, some other big ones but the runway is so long it usually doesn't matter.
>>2009248
Traffic volume for some of these airports is ridiculous. Most of the time it isn't used, and remember that acceptance of a LAHSO clearance is discretionary.
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>>2009248
LAHSO is fake, it doesn't exist. I WILL use all 9000' of the runway in my C172
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The next US carrier hull loss is gonna be a SWA CFIT crash, isn’t it. I think further automation incorporation will only result in a generation of incapable pilots and will only make the case for those pushing complete automation.

https://www.nwahomepage.com/news/national/faa-investigates-southwest-flight-that-reportedly-descended-to-175-feet-triggered-low-altitude-warning/amp/
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>woman CFI complaining about “seeYUH” and how its exclusionary and blah blah blah in the coffee room
>heave out a totally unintelligible “yuhhhhhh” to another male CFI as I leave
Owner wants to talk to me tomorrow. I’m sure he’ll just say be more prudent but this is so gay. Sick of this bullshit from women.
The issue is the literal army of enabling cucks who nod along to this. I have enough of a self preservation instinct to not out right argu
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Females only days UP never DOWN. Proof taken. You will never see a female CFi with a student boyfriend. You’ll never see a female regional CA with an FO boyfriend. You’ll never see a female legacy pilot with a regional boyfriend. But you absolutely do see the reverse of that.
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>>2009473
>its exclusionary
How
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>>2009478
Could you imagine a woman doing it? I’ve never heard it. I’m sure its happened and it was reeeeetarded to hear.
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>>2009477
i wish they were capable of love. because i am. and all it does is hurt
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>>2009481
I've heard a few do it and it sounded fine, even a tower controller. Not exclusionary at all but people still shouldn't because it's crass.
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>>2009473
I mean, instead of being an ass you could always engage in conversation and disagree upfront. Most of the peopled (not just women) hold their annoying and shit opinions because nobody ever challenges them on it. By antagonizing them all you’ve done is encouraged them to dig in their heels and double down on their view.
>I have enough of a self preservation instinct to not out right argue
You don’t have the nuts to form and stand by your own opinion amongst your peers either. Also the CYAH trend is stupid anyhow.
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What's considered the best light twin today
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it is the female biological imperative to bitch and moan about everything. It is a man's job to tell her to shut the fuck up. women leave the work place, apartheid NOW
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>>2009499
>I mean
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>>2009473
>Compentent pilot registers safety concern with chief pilot about new hire CFI fresh from ATP clogging CTAF with meowing and see yuhs.
FTFY
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>>2009477
>>2007968
Everything said here is true - especially about dating up. That said, unless maybe if you were a 141 fag - why date a female pilot? There are some super cool chick pilots but most have a severe chip on their shoulder or worst cases absolutely fucking suck. When you guys take the CA upgrade why would you even want to deal with that? As long as you take care of yourself and you’re not a weirdo there’s so much more out there than av girls.
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>>2009481
the female DCA controller says that every single day
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>>2009527
You’re a fucking pilot. Date a PA or doctor with a good ass and pretty face. Settling on dreamer ngmi women spinning their wheels on the struggle bus in 7kt xwinds is both a waste of time and a waste of your dating potential
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>>2007968
And they all cheat on each other and are mostly miserable despite
>muh I can’t believe they pay me to do this

Don’t date within aviation if you are at all interested in loyalty, affection or building a life. If you just want to screw then go for it, but that eventually wears old. And if you just want to fuck then date college undergrads who are hotter, smarter and don’t have a massive chip on their shoulder.
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>>2009536
>You’re a fucking pilot
you're assuming he's attractive and /fit/
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>>2009536
>no reading comprehension
Are you a nog? Probably a future diversity hire.
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>>2009041
I do not want to fly commercial. I am working on becoming an engineer. I will just look at domestic made aircraft, how does a Silvaire sound?
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>>2009606
so you're autistic, I can tell from how you type like a retard. never fly an aircraft
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>>2009651
Not him, but you sound like a chump. >>2009606
Luscombes are pretty good, but they’re sorta weekend dickaround planes. Can’t carry much, can’t go fast, but you’re flying.
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What if they hadn't turned around and then crashed into someone's house? Why are uneducated fools allowed to buy airplanes that they can't handle? As always something absolutely terrible is going to have to happen for anyone to do anything about it

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/transportation/small-plane-crash-li-macarthur-d6fontjh



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