heres a very work in progress pic of my 3x13 39speedi couldnt see any reason why a 13s wouldnt fit my 9s hub and it seems to so far lol, wit a spacer toodesu im probably gonna convert it to a 2x11 at some point to save weight this is just for funsiesim also running a 12s chain because 13s are silly expensivewhat are the chances this fails epically?
>>2009950you may not like it but this is what peak uphill performance looks like
>>2009950you're a fucking nutjob and I love to see it.don't forget that you also can crankmaxx for optimal leverage when going vertical. I'd go at least 175mm.How big are the chainrings?
>>2009951oh my god. the frame even says SOVL
>>2009950i like how the cockpit is turning outi have some 9s microshift thumb shifters mounted upside down inbetween my levers and dildosmy grips got lost in the post i think so im still waiting on them but the cockpit feels very ergonomic and comfy so fari can actually use just my thumb to shift both ways without moving my fingers off the brake levers which i dont think i can do with any other shifter even gripshiftsand i can reach them from the purple bar ends easilymy right shifter for the 13s has a nice ratchetthe left hand one is a 9s i ghetto converted to pure friction but for 2 or 3 gears thats finewould be nice to get a right handed 3 speed to put on the left so theyre both ratcheted if i can find onealso i have compressionless housing for the bb7 calipers and speed dial leversim very exited for these i think this might be peak mechanical braking performancei think the stock pads are resins so il be changing them to semi metallic when the weather starts getting worse
>>2009953lol no ive got 145smy gearing is low enough that ive got all the leverage i need even at that lengthchainrings are 22t 32t 36ti couldve put a 44t on there but i think 36 is as big as i need on this bike>>2009954hehe me and my frens all call this bike the cotic sovl
Next level is the classified hub+this.>>2009955based rear crossmax enjoyer
>>2009958yeah id like a super high engagement hub of some kind because with a 22t to 52t ratio even on this reeelatively high engagement hub the gaps between clicks are still gianttheres these bullshit ones with 300 clicks or something on aliexpress hubs that tempt meid need to learn to lace a wheel though so thats gonna be a future upgradei might be able to get some old trials hub or something on ebay perhaps, thatd be fitting for this build>based rear crossmax enjoyeris that this wheel?i got this thing off a folding bike i bought thatd been heavily modified with mtb partsi dont rly know anything about wheels but it looks perfect on this bike so i like it
>>2009951It’s so optimized for peak uphill it doesn’t even have functional brakes.Seriously, though, you’d be surprised how much energy you’re squandering with these type of knobby tires.
>>2009960tbqh high engagement is just nice if you do super techy trials, or like the BZZZZZ sound.Yeah it looks like a rear mavic crossmax, could be a mavic crossride.The crossmax has the big weird aluminum nipples, straightpull spokes, and was a pretty high end wheel at the time(early 2000's into early 2010's). Since yours is disk it's probably early 2010's/late 2000's.Mostly a trail/all mountain wheel. Modern classification would be downcountry/ light enduro. Could be tubeless ready since mavic was early on the UST(Universal standard tubeless) designation.Mavic wheels were pretty good back then, they just had bad customer service in the states and fell out of favor, while dt swiss was gaining steam+carbon wheels were getting popular.
>>2009963brakes just slow you down hehhhehehehehhhhhheheyeah im gonna change the tyres to some proper fast rolling crosscountries at some pointi do really enjoy dh style tyres thoughtheyre noticably slow on smooth ground but the infinite grip is worth it when i get to use itfor now this bike is more of an experiment for fun thing but over time even after ive gotten it rideable im going to keep changing things out to refine it down into a nice crosscountry bike, dropper post and suspension fork are on the list too>>2009964it says crosstrail on itid like a buzzy hub but not too obnoxious, this one makes a quite nice hard ratchet almost like a freewheelyeah this is the first wheel ive had with straight pulls, aero spokes too which by amazing luck gives me the clearance for the cassette not to rub lolthanks for the info on the wheel
>>2009958Sheldon already built a 63 speed bikehttps://www.sheldonbrown.com/org/otb.html
>>2009951fuck yea dudethat thing is awesome>>2009956>22t 32t 36tget a 53t big ring please.
>>2009951yep, this one is peak
All those gears and you will still be spinning out on 36x11
>>2010003yo based!im reading through iti love sheldon so much, that madman is a big inspiration in my own madnessive had similar ideas too for bikes using multiple sprockets on gear hubsa 3x13x2x3 234speed is actually quite possiblei cant afford the gear hubs thoughi also theorized a 2x3 6 speed fxed gear using gear hubsoh i just remembered if i actually tried to build any of these id probably explode the gear hubs by putting too much torque through them>>2010005hehe thanks44 is as big as my fd can take unless i make my granny gear bigger but i dont wanna do thatjust for fun il get a 44t chainring for her though just to really rangemaxx my drivetraini ride touring bikes too and my ideal set up for that is a 22t to 44t 2x drivetrain so i can use the 44t for that in the futurethat bike wont be gearmaxxed as in number of gears but it will be rangemaxxed with a giant cassette too>>2010017<3>>2010046if im on the 36x11 im already going down a fairly steep hill so i can let gravity take meon my tourer that i ride on the road and take on more gravel type offroading 36 would be too spinny yeahground clerance is also one other reason for the 36 over a 44, weight too i guessdont worry il definitely post pics of my other bikes at some point im gearmaxxing all of them and experimenting with various set ups
>>2009950next i need to brakemaxxi need a bike thats both rim and disk brake compatable then i can have 4 brakes and use tt bars for the other 2 brake levers or something lol
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>>2010049>44 is as big as my fd can take unless i make my granny gear bigger but i dont wanna do thatfront (and rear) derailer capacity is kinda meaningless unless you're setting up a bike for someone who refuses to understand their shift pattern. It only affects your ability to crosschain small/small without rubbing, but that's not a useful gear, and the rubbing doesn't damage anything if you go into it by mistake. Same with rd capacity. what matters is matching the curvature of the derailer cage to the big chainring, and with a triple fd, the middle ring shift groove. So yeah i guess it probably wouldn't work well with that mech (those mechs look awesome btw)
>>2010050that was a tandem thing back in the day mafac made dual cable brake leverspeople would run drums and cantis you can actually still get dual cable leversthey're also used by disabled athletes sometimes
setting these up must be a nightmare
>>2010052based
>>2010055the front deraillier has a hard 22t limit between the biggest and smallest chainrings or the chain will rub the top an bottom so there are limitsi have run fds with the wrong size chainrings before also it can work22 to 44 is my favourite range though and what the fds i run are all made for>(those mechs look awesome btw)yeahh this is absolute peak shimano for me they look so edgy i love it>>2010063i wish i could have a tandem one day theyre so cool
>>201005026in mtb is the pick here. Particularly around 2000's when forks came with disk brake mounts and canti/v brake bosses.Rear might be harder since most frames didn't do disk and canti bosses, but I am sure it's possible.
>>2010077>the front deraillier has a hard 22t limit between the biggest and smallest chainrings or the chain will rub the top an bottom so there are limits>rub the topnonsense>rub the bottomdoesn't matterit doesn't matternot trying to convince you to do it just making a general point about derailer limits not mattering. It's not a hard limit at all.
>>2010065Non-aero levers are a pleasure to set up. I fucking hate aero levers
>>2009951>peak uphill performanceWith fucking thumb shifters? I hope you are planning to change that otherwise everyone will know you don't climb anything significant
>>2010081im sorry man but this fd is kinda a collectable and in good condition i really dont wanna scrape it upthe biggest i can go is 44, a 53 with a 31t granny could work but if it doesnt then the chain will scrape up the fd>>2010078yeah theres a version of this on-one fork that has vbrake bosses and disk mounts, i wish i had that one but mines disk only and so is my frametheres a rare version of this frame that has vbrake mounts but its like rare rare there might only be one or two of themtheres quite a few hybrids and tourers that are compatable with both so i can do a quad brake set up at some point>>2010083hhahaa yess damn it took a while the boards rly slow atm what gives?anyway die?i can shift from any gear to any gear with one flick of my thumbfuck mashing a plastic button to try to get down my gears loli live in wales btwi guess its not the swiss alps but its steep as shit everywhere herenormies think im retarded for cycling anywhere but the flat bike paths and towns lol
>>2010084>not trying to convince you to do it >collectable front derailerlol
>>2010085these old bike parts are gonna be worth alot one day maaan
>>2009951that dinner plate is making me laugh.but as long as it works I guess it's fine. that is an extremely low gear, I'm not sure the little ring would even be useful? can you actually ride it fast enough to stay upright in small front big rear? or even mid rear?
>>2009950omg my thread is still upi was gone camping for a week i didnt expect it to still be herethe boards rly slow this time of year i guessi havnt made any progress on the bike yeti actually bought a new 90s trek hybrid while i was gone so thats gonna be my main project because i need a shopping bikework on my 39speed mtb will resume laterthe trek is gonna have a 50t 9s cassette on it soon so im still gearmaxxing>>2010086yes?old bike parts are increasing in value rapidly rnpeople are buying them all up because theyre realizing how shit all modern plastic garbage components are>>2010136>tfw i was actually trying to figure out what dinner plate you meantthe cassette is actually about that big loland yeah i can balance in a gear that lowits rly not that slow im still moving at like 2mph, still alot faster than pushing my bike up a hill that steepi can trackstand anyway so it doesnt matter how slow i go
>>2009950Are you riding 45 degree hills or something?
>>2012505yesunironically i climb retardedly steep shit on mtbs so i can ride back down
basedcan you retrofit planetary gearbox at crank?
i havnt made any progress on the bike in a whilei made a new fren recently who was a pro mtb rider in my local area who knows all the trails and stuff round here so im gonna rush to get it finished in the next few dayswill update with pics of it at the top of a mountain to confirm it werks>>2013166i have considered a shlumpf mountain drive 2 speed bottom bracket and theres a couple of rear hubs i could use with 3 to 12 gears that could take a big cassetterecumbent bikes especially the offroad ones have gear set ups like this with 100s of total gearsmayhapse one day i willhubs are expensive tho and id need to be heauling aloooooot more weight to justify itplus hubs break when you overload them with super low gearing so iiddkkktheyre heavy too and im trying to keep make the giant cassette the only peice of excess mass on this bikethe shlumpf drive mtb would be sick though
>>2009950i took the bike out today with just gears no brakesit works!i didnt get any pictures tho sorryi will soon when the brakes are done but i need a new cable cutter and more zip ties firsti pulled a drug fueled power day and got alot donenew star nut in the forkfd shimmed not held on with tapenew (90s) seat a little narrower so it doesnt get in my way so muchi still havnt bought new grips after my last ones got lost in the post so im having to swap my 1 pair of lock ons from bike to bike lolcassette chain and chainrings were thoughrily cleaned of grease dirt and lubedboth shifters are all cabled up looking neat10 hours of fiddling with deraillieursjust enough to get it barely rideablethe 2 lowest gears on the cassette arent smooth because the chainlines bad and theres nothing i can rly do about that for now besides thinner tyres or some occursed jank involving bending the frame and redishing the weelthe derailleurs are handling it fine but my shifters only just baaaaarely have enough pull to get to 13th so im having to do some alternative cable routing to make it werki know if 3x13 juust works a 2x11 will work perfectly on these shifters so thats likely what il do next because shes is tailheavy as fuck rn and the cassette acts like a flywheel and makes it less responsiveits smooth but this isnt fastoh and the short cranks are short145s might be a lil too short idk they feel very short compared to the short 152s ive been ridingidk it was a 10 min ride il see how short they feel when ive ridden them for longerim very exited to finish the bike and test this jank for real up the mountains and get some picturesi can tak youtube videos of the (possible world record?) drivetain working tooalso to the one bitch on here who said friction shifters wouldnt work on an 11s because too many geaarss i need muuh indexing waahhkys 13 is so easy its like a cvtthe shifts are mostly silent too very smoothblog over
>>2009950it works :)it feels good to ride an mtb againand in woods that are completely new to meits technical here and im rusty so my aggressive tyre tread and brake set up have been the real mvps so far
>>2009950i hugged my bike while i was at this cosy spoti think i might be gay for itmaybe im just exited because this was a year long project
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>>2015850>>2015852>>2015855nice
>>2016014thanku <3
>>2009953Crank length has nothing to do with speed; if anything, too long just makes you slower by having you stress the leg muscles/knees more
What are you climbing with that?
Explain to me how an 11s cassette doesn't fit on a 9s hub, but a 13s does????Hubs make no fucking sense man.
>>2017557The way cassettes for hyperglide style freehub bodies normally work is that you have sprockets and spacers that fit onto a splined freehub body, and how many you can fit is limited by the length of the cassette body. It's possible to exceed that limitation by adding sprockets with a large enough interior diameter, on a carrier assembly that also has a sufficiently large diameter, that they overhang the base of the hub and spokes. This is why it's possible to make 12 and 13 speed MTB cassettes with massive sprockets that fit on existing 10sp freehub bodies. The same trick doesn't usually work for road cassettes because the sprockets just aren't big enough, though Shimano 12sp road cassettes do use this method to fit on 11sp bodies, and that's why 30t is the minimum largest sprocket size for them.
>>2017572An addition to this: The same idea is used for XDR cassettes too. Here's a picture of a 13sp XPLR cassette - you can clearly see how sprockets 12 and 13 are stepped out from 11 so the thickness of the cassette that interfaces with the XDR freehub body remains unchanged.
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I'd like to do something similar to OP's but with a road bike and making it work for a larger range, so I can climb and then not max out on the downhill... as is the 53x12 I have now I basically cant push any faster than 50 mph so I think if I were to switch to a 60t in front and a 10t mountain bike style in back should help me break ~65mph on the steepest mountains/hills I have around here. How do I go about setting this up?
>>2017599not even having an 11t cog means your bike is gimped for top speed in a very basic way so your meme proposal is kinda ridiculous. 55 / 56 big chainrings are fairly standard road race equipment, shimano and TA both make them for modern 4 bolt hollowtech cranks. 55-60t chainrings are also not that hard to buy, 5 bolt 110 or 130 bcd. So it's an easy thing to do as long as you don't have a braze on fd hanger. Seeing as this is for meme purposes I wouldn't bother with the 10t cog. It's not going to do anything for the visual meme appeal of your drivetrain. I also wouldn't go for a super wide cassette as it will not look cool.
>>2017603>Seeing as this is for meme purposewhile you are right it is for meme purposes I also kind of want to do this... but with a cheap bike that already has a triple in front, I bet I can find one in the $100 range and I have a set of wheels that I can put a 11spd cassette on... I know I am about to have a 12speed cassette that is a little tweaked because the new one shows up this week... This could be a fun little project. The other side of this is to make it so it can climb just about anything at a snails pace.
>>2017599you also need to find someone to motopace you or just draft busses/cars on faster roads. spinning up a huge gear on a descent isn't it, you can reach 100 km/h with standard gearing and a good aero tuck, they do it all the time in pro races and they aren't pedaling at those speeds. it's about spinning it up on the flat.
>>2017605I don't think it's worth doing on a bike that isn't cool and kinda fancy, like OP.
>>2017608You are probably right and it would probably end up costing more than I'd be willing to spend... and then the mixing and matching of parts... and just finding and assembling, and then maybe fabricating to make it fit to a frame it was never intended for would take too much time.
>>2017610>fabricating to make it fit to a frame it was never intended for>would take too much time.those are both nonsense reasons, wtf would you have to 'fabricate'? Bicycles ARE intended for such things. >i want a silly meme project but i'm lazy why even bring it up lol
>>2017611bro I was just inspired for a minute or 2 lolseriously it would be fun if I had a ton of spare parts at my disposal, but I don't
>>2009951I think there might be something wrong with your brakes
Ok now put your 13s cassette on a rohlff hub
