SS United States to be sunk, creating the world's largest artificial reef. RIP to one of the greats.
Second-largest is also in Florida
>>2016128and so is the third-largest
How many threads do we need about this shitbox>>2003628>>2011826
>>2016134Ordinarily I would agree with you but I currently have about 20 threads hidden that are just /pol/ spam that has nothing to do with transportation, at least this is a passenger vessel and not a press release from the office of Stephen M. Ross, so bump just 4 u :-)
>>2016128Is that Admiral Kuznetsov?
>>2016147nah that would be the best she'd ever looked then
>>2016147USS Oriskany. The other is USNS General Hoyt S. Vandenberg, a satellite tracking ship
>>2016134You're right. Let's talk urban planning. Ooopsie, sorry for the bump fagnuts!
I hope they sink it at a low depth, would make a baller dive location at ~30 meters
>>2015994One of the goats for sure, straight fire way to go out.
>>2017922barrier reefs are fairly shallow, is that a factor in why they make good habitats? If so they might be obligated to
The Florida fish & wildlife page on the Oriskany has a diagram showing they sank it to provide 80 feet (25 meters) clearance over the tallest point of the ship.That puts the bridge at about 45 meters and most of the main deck at 55 meters
>>2018337That's a little deep for recreational divers.
>>2015994>buying a literal last-of-its-kind ocean liner so you can sink itI fucking hate Floridians so much...
>>2018374And do what with it, exactly?
>>2015994Talk about peak metaphor with that name....if Muskie cared about anything that mattered (efficient travel) he'd wrote a check and save this biddie.
>>2018428>efficient travelCruise ships are just a means to get drunk and gamble just a massive waste
>>2018378>buy decrepit ocean liner>pour 100s of millions of dollars into it>???>profit
>>2018469>payback period never
>>2018458It's 60 times more efficient per ton, than even a train.....slow is efficient just not per time, and faster times are just low character enabling horseshit. Slower travel makes people more deliberate/intentional. I've never been on a commerical flight. Don't tell me you prefer that cattle car to playing shuffleboard and fresh air even if it takes a day to get to the same place.
>>2015994>SS United States to be sunk, creating the world's largest artificial reef. RIP to one of the greatsYou guys are so negative this is going to be awesome. Fort Walton Beach is the middle of the redneck riviera. It'll be beautiful. You'll be able to dive down at a fairly reasonable depth and see fish and sealife around this classic beauty. People will pay to dive and help the economy. And companies will bring those little tourist mini-subs down to view the fish and boat for the old people- a very /n/ thing.Plus it's the USS United States. It's not seeing it's end being stripped for parts in South India like most scrapped ships. It's going to be a tourist attraction and provide natural barrier.
>>2018523It'll probably be a technically advanced dive to see it. I don't know if they'll require 80 feet like the Oriskany, but it also needs to be deep enough so storm and wave action don't disturb it.It's not the USS United States, btw, just SS.
>>2018470That was clearly a joke dumbass.
>>2015994I'm going to miss seeing that thing out of the food court at the south philly IKEA.
Did it sink?
>>2020904The owners are still trying to avoid selling it to one or another Florida counties who want to sink it. Even if it's sold tomorrow, it'll need about a year of cleaning and prep work for the actual sinking.
>>2020981>The owners are still trying to avoid selling itI read up about the ship a bit and I still don't know what they want to do with the ship. The only reason they seem to be so against it is the name.
>>2018494Anon im pretty sure to get that '60 times more efficient' number youre quoting, passengers would have to be loaded like they did african slaves; theres no way a carnival cruise ship is utilizing anywhere near its capacity enough to even bring it to energy-efficiency parity with a commercial airliner.
>>2021010The same objections happened when the Navy wanted to sink the USS America aircraft carrier.Meanwhile, Okaloosa county now has title to the SS United States. They need a judge to approve the transfer, but expect to get that. The ship could move to Florida as soon as the end of October.
>>2021986update:The new ownership has scheduled the vessel’s departure from Philadelphia for this Friday, October 25th. Contractors have been conducting preparatory work to facilitate the ship’s relocation to Norfolk, Virginia, such as removing her anchors, where it will undergo conversion into an artificial reef.
>>2023123update again:"Due to the amount of space and availability (only 2 to 4 months) in Norfolk, Virginia, Okaloosa County has decided to move the SS United States to a dock in Mobile, Alabama, that has recently become available”No date set for the tow.
Odds the hull rips apart when they start towing it and it sinks in the Delaware River?
>>2023175update:The ship will start moving on November 14, taking two days to get into Delaware Bay with the right tides. Then about a two-week tow to Mobile.
>>2024239track it at https://www.destinfwb.com/explore/eco-tourism/ssus/
>>2024239update yet again:for unexplained reasons, but partly related to the tropical storm starting to form in the Gulf of Mexico, the tow is delayed. New date not set.
Sinking the United States is such an apt metaphor. Its all going down man.
>>2024947>Its all going down man.10 generations is all you get before the slow collapse.
Article listing the cost of each of the rebuild proposals over time, and showing how the value of the ship has fallen and how little the preservation society has taken in compared to all thathttps://www.inquirer.com/news/ss-united-states-costs-philadelphia-20241117.html
>not recycledAll that steel sunk. What a waste.
shit is still laid up in phillynow the coast guard is saying the thing is too old and fragile to move safelystarting next week the dock owner is charging $100k a week penalty fee
>>2025634I don't believe I'd try to take any sort of credit for that abortion of a graph. Let alone call myself an artist.
>>2027297maybe the only way to get the US out of Philly will be to put her on one of those heavy-lift transport ships. The US's weight must be less than the in-service amount of 53000 tonnes, which is within heavy-lift ability. It'll just cost more.
Okaloosa paid the $100k late fee (appears to be a one-time thing) and are working with Pier 82 are to extend the docking lease through January, at a rate of $3400/day.Coast Guard requiring a seaworthiness inspection be completed before departure.
>>2027569Pretty badass, is that basically an ambulatory drydock?I'm not a boat-type autist, but I have to say, this whole thing really has the flavor of a middle-aged hillbilly's financially catastrophic classic car project he's had since he was 23. When what started out as brake job and head gasket has somehow advanced to ordering custom-engineered castings from Germany and there's no end in sight. Now he's paying for a cross-country trailer haul for 25x the car's value, "it'll all be worth it when it runs (never,)" and meanwhile his marriage is being reduced to an absolute hash
>>2027782it is just like that. There are a lot of different types, but I picked the Vanguard because it's open-ended so I didn't have to check against the length of the US.I'm wondering if >>2023445 is going to be right, and it starts to fall apart underway
>artificial reefWhat a waste of precious steel.
ruh roh
>>2028091It sounds like they ordered the additional testing because the ship is incapable of self-propulsion and they want to make sure it'll make the trip. Surely this is something they anticipated, right?
>>2028269https://www.nwfdailynews.com/story/news/local/2024/12/19/commissioners-in-okaloosa-county-florida-reflect-on-ss-united-states/77055937007/Okaloosa has $9 million set aside for transportation and environmental services needed before the ship can be sunk.
>>2027297Damn I knew it was in bad shape but I didn't realize it was that bad.They should probably just tear it down, though at this point I wonder if you could even recover anything useful from it, at least to offset the cost of the teardown.
