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SS United States to be sunk, creating the world's largest artificial reef. RIP to one of the greats.
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Second-largest is also in Florida
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>>2016128
and so is the third-largest
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How many threads do we need about this shitbox
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>>2011826
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>>2016134
Ordinarily I would agree with you but I currently have about 20 threads hidden that are just /pol/ spam that has nothing to do with transportation, at least this is a passenger vessel and not a press release from the office of Stephen M. Ross, so bump just 4 u :-)
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>>2016128
Is that Admiral Kuznetsov?
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>>2016147
nah that would be the best she'd ever looked then
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>>2016147
USS Oriskany. The other is USNS General Hoyt S. Vandenberg, a satellite tracking ship
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>>2016134
You're right. Let's talk urban planning. Ooopsie, sorry for the bump fagnuts!
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I hope they sink it at a low depth, would make a baller dive location at ~30 meters
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>>2015994
One of the goats for sure, straight fire way to go out.
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>>2017922
barrier reefs are fairly shallow, is that a factor in why they make good habitats? If so they might be obligated to
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The Florida fish & wildlife page on the Oriskany has a diagram showing they sank it to provide 80 feet (25 meters) clearance over the tallest point of the ship.
That puts the bridge at about 45 meters and most of the main deck at 55 meters
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>>2018337
That's a little deep for recreational divers.
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>>2015994
>buying a literal last-of-its-kind ocean liner so you can sink it

I fucking hate Floridians so much...
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>>2018374
And do what with it, exactly?
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>>2015994
Talk about peak metaphor with that name....if Muskie cared about anything that mattered (efficient travel) he'd wrote a check and save this biddie.
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>>2018428
>efficient travel

Cruise ships are just a means to get drunk and gamble just a massive waste
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>>2018378
>buy decrepit ocean liner
>pour 100s of millions of dollars into it
>???
>profit
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>>2018469
>payback period
never
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>>2018458
It's 60 times more efficient per ton, than even a train.....slow is efficient just not per time, and faster times are just low character enabling horseshit. Slower travel makes people more deliberate/intentional. I've never been on a commerical flight. Don't tell me you prefer that cattle car to playing shuffleboard and fresh air even if it takes a day to get to the same place.
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>>2015994
>SS United States to be sunk, creating the world's largest artificial reef. RIP to one of the greats

You guys are so negative this is going to be awesome. Fort Walton Beach is the middle of the redneck riviera. It'll be beautiful. You'll be able to dive down at a fairly reasonable depth and see fish and sealife around this classic beauty. People will pay to dive and help the economy. And companies will bring those little tourist mini-subs down to view the fish and boat for the old people- a very /n/ thing.

Plus it's the USS United States. It's not seeing it's end being stripped for parts in South India like most scrapped ships. It's going to be a tourist attraction and provide natural barrier.
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>>2018523
It'll probably be a technically advanced dive to see it. I don't know if they'll require 80 feet like the Oriskany, but it also needs to be deep enough so storm and wave action don't disturb it.

It's not the USS United States, btw, just SS.
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>>2018470
That was clearly a joke dumbass.
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>>2015994
I'm going to miss seeing that thing out of the food court at the south philly IKEA.
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Did it sink?
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>>2020904
The owners are still trying to avoid selling it to one or another Florida counties who want to sink it. Even if it's sold tomorrow, it'll need about a year of cleaning and prep work for the actual sinking.
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>>2020981
>The owners are still trying to avoid selling it
I read up about the ship a bit and I still don't know what they want to do with the ship. The only reason they seem to be so against it is the name.
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>>2018494
Anon im pretty sure to get that '60 times more efficient' number youre quoting, passengers would have to be loaded like they did african slaves; theres no way a carnival cruise ship is utilizing anywhere near its capacity enough to even bring it to energy-efficiency parity with a commercial airliner.
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>>2021010
The same objections happened when the Navy wanted to sink the USS America aircraft carrier.

Meanwhile, Okaloosa county now has title to the SS United States. They need a judge to approve the transfer, but expect to get that. The ship could move to Florida as soon as the end of October.
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>>2021986
update:
The new ownership has scheduled the vessel’s departure from Philadelphia for this Friday, October 25th. Contractors have been conducting preparatory work to facilitate the ship’s relocation to Norfolk, Virginia, such as removing her anchors, where it will undergo conversion into an artificial reef.
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>>2023123
update again:
"Due to the amount of space and availability (only 2 to 4 months) in Norfolk, Virginia, Okaloosa County has decided to move the SS United States to a dock in Mobile, Alabama, that has recently become available”
No date set for the tow.
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Odds the hull rips apart when they start towing it and it sinks in the Delaware River?
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>>2023175
update:
The ship will start moving on November 14, taking two days to get into Delaware Bay with the right tides. Then about a two-week tow to Mobile.
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>>2024239
track it at https://www.destinfwb.com/explore/eco-tourism/ssus/
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>>2024239
update yet again:
for unexplained reasons, but partly related to the tropical storm starting to form in the Gulf of Mexico, the tow is delayed. New date not set.
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Sinking the United States is such an apt metaphor. Its all going down man.
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>>2024947
>Its all going down man.
10 generations is all you get before the slow collapse.
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Article listing the cost of each of the rebuild proposals over time, and showing how the value of the ship has fallen and how little the preservation society has taken in compared to all that
https://www.inquirer.com/news/ss-united-states-costs-philadelphia-20241117.html



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