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>>2017110>do you not realize how stacked the WO are with female DEI influencers right now? Yeah, retards who can't get hired outside of a 7-12 year flow will continue to get owned, and even better if other airlines lap these retards up. All flow hopefuls are retarded and get what they deserve.
How do you cope with never being able to fly your planefu?
>>2017251I could if I blew all my money on a good one as well as space to keep it. Probably better to just save for retirement and whatnot.
>>2017251I tell myself that the B747 was my fathers pride, not mine, and that by someday getting on a B777, it'll be the equivalent of it for this era. Short of getting furloughed and going to Atlas, I'll never fly the whale and I'll have to live with that. I'll never be the aviator he was, and he'll never see that aviator I became. That's life.
>>2017263You could fly the dreamlifter boeing uses to move parts around. They fly out of the field I live near all the time.
>>2017263The 777 is a cool plane. Im not sure it gets as much love as the 747 but very few crafts are at that level. It wouldve been cool to pilot the same plane as your dad though. >>2017254You know ive heard retirement is overrated
>>2017271>You know ive heard retirement is overratedYou have a good point.
>>2017225they are going to find a way.. they are literally applying to delta and United to get a CJO, start day 1 indoc, put “Delta Air Lines FO” on their resume and reapply to mainline. That’s literally what they all are doing
>>2017286Except we ain't hiring, so fuck off to the fag and nig airlines and get furloughed, meanwhile I'm safe from a furlough where I stand, too many thousands of retirements on the horizon.
>>2017302>Except we ain't hiringOh… you… XD. Hiring is still happening, just classes are paused. The pool of CJOs is still being filled. Wait until January… the will be a furry of new women FOs.
I passed the CBT for the TSA but my background check has taken 6 months so far
>Hummel stopped selling plans for the original hummelbirdIt's overNot even the pirate site has them
>>2017446Interviews are happening, hiring is not. Go be a acktually fag on reddit and get your upvote gold there
>>2017533wait until AA hands out 200 CJOs at RTAG in 3 weeks
>>2017265>>2017263Either this or apply for cargolux, they fly the 747-400 and 800f, you gotta move to Europe to do so tho.I’ll apply for sure once I get the hours.It’s an airframe that is on its way out but I would like to give it a shot and fly on it for at least a couple of years before they change the fleet to 777’s.
At frontier and maybe wanna make a career here. If spirit goes under I think we’re gonna be in really good spot for growth along with hopefully getting a new contract soon.Right now too with the day trips, I get to be home every night. I feel like I’m not gaining that much by going to a legacy and I’m not interested in the widebody life. Probably drank the koolaid here, but the vibe is really chill and captains are cool
>>2017265>>2017570Some of us niggas are working our last job in aviation, as in, we are beyond working for Atlas, etc to fly a cool 4 engine heavy. I make more as a Boeing regional jet driver than I would flying ACMI again. I actually had a CJO with Atlas before the promised land called, and when it's a career vs a cool type, career comes first. Plus Atlas was handing out class dates 6 months in advance, so I couldn't even get a type and quit. A real shame.
How many hours flying is ag is too many where the airlines will not be interested in me? Getting a little tired of the grind, feel like I’ve rolled the dice enough times that I’m statistically due for a real banger in the next few years. I am not too enthused about fire.
>>2017587denver is probably the only desirable base there but if you want to upgrade there you're going to have to wait literally foreveri think wn's 3 on 4 off as a standard might be better. and you want want day trips you can bid for them.don't go to wn though i need less competition
>>2017629I mean I’m at the company and like where I live lol. Schedule is all relative to what you want. I like day trips. Commuters can have the overnights
>>2017525It has to be out there somewhere. However I don't think pirate sites are where you're going to find it. I'd say old forums would be a better bet or archives of them if they exist. A lot of shit has disappeared this last decade.
>>2017628there is no "too many", assuming you're flying a tractor, the ASEL turbine tailwheel time gives alot of cool points in your SkyWest interview. If you're just flying like a C180, it's not nearly as valuable, but time is time and PIC is PIC. Delta will say you have "too much" time to be trainable at a certain mark, but I believe it's +5,000 hours, and who know what they're actually hiring these days.
Anyone else like to watch radar?https://www.flightradar24.com/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R62lqs5Gx_U
>>2017652Mostly to see who is approaching too low over my house. That and when military are in the area making noise. Most times they run with their transponder turned off though. I like living so close to several air strips both civilian and military but it has some consequences.
Heli-Pilots check in!
>>2017188is it true a lot of pilots have a fear of heights
>>2017807I can't speak for everyone else but I personally do. Tho being a pilot has certainly helped. I recently went on a zipline adventure thing. If I had done this a few years ago before I started flying I think I would have been a lot more nervous but I had a lot of fun.
>>2017800heli master race, fixed wing fags btfo
Is this the aviation equivalent of an atomic wedgie?
>>2017807A lot do, but a fear of heights is more a fear of falling, which is natural. An airplane operates three-dimensionally; altitude change is controllable and measurable, so the falling element isn't there.
would you end your flying career if your youtube channel made you much more money?
>>2018018>Ryanair captain Doing anything else is way less stressful.So yes, most likely, however the smart move would be doing that and in the mean time piggybacking your fame and opening a flight school/mentored program to gain even more money.
To the European commercial pilots ITT:What do you consider to be the dream company that you would like to fly for?How do you plan on getting there? Trying to outline a plan myself as I will be entering the industry in 2 years or so.
>>2017251My planefu is an Ercoupe. I will fly one before I die, they are too (relatively) cheap and too common to miss out on.
>>2017198Are these windows? I know the A340 had lower deck toilets, galley, and crew rest area, but I didn't know they had windows in them.
>>2018122>lower deck toiletsA three-holer!
>>2017188
>>2018087I don’t really have a favorite airline, it can also depend where would you like to live and what kind of operations you would like to do.Me personally I would like to fly for cargolux for a bit because of the 747 and the pay, but mainly I would prefer to go live in Japan for a couple of years to further my hobbies so I’m monitoring both jal and Ana if I can get on a 777 or 787 it would be even better.
>>2018018that guy makes nearly 14 000 usd a month from patreon subscriptions alone
Been watching Masters of the Air, really makes me think when I'm going to be drafted to fight in the Ukraine/Taiwan/Israeli air war to fight for globohomo against my will.
>>2018453that's why you join the guard/reserve dummy. just like george bush and clinton, skate your way out of actual deployment
>>2018455clinton never played soldier, and weekend warrioring isnt a way out of deploying anymore, vietnam was 50 years ago. its changed bud. plus im not giving up my airline salary to be a lewtenant and do powerpoints and refill the snack room. I make what a 3 star makes, military pay is pathetic
>>2018415that was not the question
>>2018018Depends how much I would like flying, yeah, you're making more money but you won't be flying jet planes anymore. Maybe he bought some sick MSFS setup.
>>2018461lmao as if you'll have a choice. they will put you in prison if you don't go.
>>2018526you too there bud, and you first
will aviation be dead by this time next year?
>>2018539What do you mean by dead?
>>2018539Yes, all airplane will be grounded and people will go back to traveling by boat and trains.>Just trust me bro
>>2018479>MSFS setupfuck that, with youtube money I'd buy a nice GA plane (if the money isn't great something like Cessna, if it is something like Cirrus) and you can still make youtube content with that while also flying when you like and where you like
>>2018552>>2018605airspace will be limited to government operations use only during wartime
>>2018660KEK
>>2018660
>>2018661>>2018664sorry, but the only people worthy of flying during wartime are the military and the elite. everyone else, including civilian pilots serve no purpose in the air and will only get in the way
>>2018665You seem like one of those guys who buries a shipping container in their back yard and fills it with two years worth of soup and toilet paper.
>>2018665>military>flyinglol, thats cool you just got winged Lieutenant, but I need you to get back to managing the powerpoint slides or it may negatively impact your OPR. Is that understood?? Oh and we're out of money for this fiscal year, so no more flying until congress passes the next budget. Don't worry about going weeks unpaid, it happens every year, you get used to it. Don't think you can skip work though, I'd hate to court martial you for going AWOL. HAHAHAHAHA
why dont planes use multi element wings?dont tell me about fowler flaps
>>2018815The big ones do.
>>2018816my brother in christ is that not a fowler flap?
>>2018817Yes, and it is a multi element wing. Anything beyond that would add weight and additional drag.
>>2018815less efficient unless you have span limitations.your ricer piece of shit Ford Mustang has to fit onto one lane of the road. That is why you need multiple elements.
>>2018116>My planefu is an Ercoupe. I will fly one before I die, they are too (relatively) cheap and too common to miss out on.Based
>>2018116Nice. I put some hours on a few of those, its surprising how well it straightens itself out when you land crabbed. Also, their stall characteristics didn't seem to be quite as advertised, I got a lot of wing drop once, recovered by just loosening up on the controls. Never found out if that plane was rigged wrong or if they are all like that. >General question for anyone on this thread. I quit flying about three years when I thought I would never get my medical back. Turned out I might actually be eligible for a first class, no limitations, no special issuance. I'm at about 1100 hours, Multi, Commercial, no CFI. How would the job market look if I was to get back in? I would be willing to relocate anywhere. I know the airline hiring wave seems to be over, but how much of that has trickled into 91 and 135? I'd be all over flying a 207 in alaska, but I can't figure out what hours the 135s in bethel are looking for these days. Is getting in the right seat of a caravan as "SIC" gone now?It seems like dropzones aren't posting a lot of jobs, but its the end of the season for most of the country.
>>2019037Outside of being a CFI, you're looking at a stagnant airline and Part 135 market currently. Some regionals require a training contract, Horizon is requiring previous 121 experience to even apply. If you think you can get your First Class back, fight that fight today so when your medical is back in hand, you can get right to a better airline market. I can't speak to current CFI market needs, but yeah, right seat Caravan is not around currently without a training contract.
>1300 total time, all rATP mins met except multi-engine time (still need rating), STEM degree magna cum laud, gold seal CFI, previous career at large finacial institution, mid-late 30s. When should I start applying to regionals? Are any still hiring? Whats the chances of me making it to a legacy? I feel too old to make it to the top and have heard that DL, UA, AA don't like hiring guys past 35.
>>2019104>meet RATP mins>don't have multi ratingnigger the rating is Airline Transport Pilot, Airplane Multiengine LandAlso the "over 35" is a meme left over from the Pan Am and TWA days, there have been 60 year olds in classes this year. Go get 121 time, go get turbine PIC, and climb the ladder as far as you can
>>2017188>deathly afraid of flying and turbulence, to the point that when I was about to get on a plane to Europe I almost cried because I was so nervous>still somewhat interested in learning how to fly Is this common at all
>>2019138Just don't get in business planes like the one you posted and you're safe.
>>2019147I know that airplane travel is safe and the whole "If you made it to the airport the risky part of the trip is over" but I still get really nervous for some reason Also I thought even business planes like that one were relatively safe, less so than airliners and more turbulentI just think it looks cool which is why I posted it
>>2019138>zomfg I'm surely gonna die because of harmless turbulence>doesn't die>zomfg but this time I'll surely die>still doesn't die>repeatI don't think mentally ill people should consider flying lessons
>>2019104Air Wisconsin is hiring FOs with RATP minshttps://airwis.com/
>>2019152It's not so much that I think I'm gonna die, I just get really nervous about it Of course flight lessons are a pipe dream that I may never actually do
>>2019104>1300 TT>R-ATP mins but no multi ratingHow? If you qualified for a reduced R-ATP you would have gotten AMEL Comm at your University. If you mean a 1500 R-ATP then obviously you don't meet mins due to total time. Chances at a Legacy are 99% if you spice up your resume over the next 5 years. Idk who told you some bullshit about age, but there have been 64 year old dudes getting hired at the Big 3 in the previous 10 years. The question is, would you be interested in a Legacy job over a LCC job due to seniority movement or upgrades. That you'll have to ask yourself.>>2019138“About ninety percent of all military aviators are afraid of heights. It’s because there is a direct link between a fear of heights and the need to be in control. We don’t know if people who are control freaks become military aviators, or military aviators become control freaks. It doesn’t matter."https://code7700.com/rule_13.htm
Keep flying frens you'll make it one day :)
>>2019223is she rent free? are you obsessed? are are you just a simp coomer for some rotten snatch?
>>2019235>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords You're as pathetic as >>2019223
>>2019248nigga balls
>>2019050Thanks for the advice. I walked out with a new first class today after a normal exam, no SODA or anything needed.Thanks for the advice on all of that.
>>2019304Big congrats, I've heard the SODA process of old got tossed out for something more cumbersome requiring renewal, but again, big congrats on a First Class in hand. I don't think you should sit idly, but I don't have any good time building advice beyond muh CFI. Depending on the market, ATP-CTP may end up being out of pocket until the next hiring wave. I'm not saying you should pay for it today, I'm saying you should budget for it just in case you need to pay for it tomorrow. Don't forget the cost of airfare and hotels.On a side note, not to make assumptions, if you had previously disclosed something to the FAA that'd kill your medical, and you #ignored it today, the FAA will revoke your latest First Class with a letter in the mail, because obviously your AME wouldn't know. I hope you made the right steps.
>>2019336Thanks man. I'm planning to get current before anything else and start looking around. Noted on the ATP-CTP. On the medical, my AME and I were extremely careful to get everything correct and complete. It was a weird one, but ultimately the FAA doesn't consider it a problem.
I have only ever flown on the A320 and 737 in my life. And now I'm realizing that soon there won't be any chances to fly the A340, A380 and 747. I should probably start looking at flights with these aircrafts while I still have the chance.
>>2019371The A380 will probably be around for a while, the 747 is kill, I'm surprised the A340 isn't dead yet.
>>2019385Well according to some article Luftansa will operate the 747-400 and A340 till 2028. And will operate the 747-8 into the 2030s. So I guess I gotta fly on them.
how long do we have left for passenger 767s and 757s? particularly the 767-400 and 757-300
>>2019156Thanks anon. >>2019174>>2019109Meant to say 1500 R-ATP. All the minimums except multi are in the bag. Just waiting for a slow down in student work load and for it to come out of maintenance.Is it worth getting an MEI if no one at my flight school gets their multi there?
>>2017263Man my dad is a fucking unemployed drug addict. I really hope you know how lucky you are to have a real man for a father. Anyway both 747 and 777 are incredible airplanes
>>2019437I got my MEI and used it all of 30 hours before fucking out of the CFI world, MEI ain't worth shit unless you know it's worth your while. If you know you'll get students, it might be worth it. Example, you need 25 hours multi for an ATP and you get your Comm Multi in 10 or less hours. Most schools won't rent your a Multi to time build without an instructor onboard, so if you have to build 15 more hours, you may as well get your MEI training if you're spending the money to time build anyway.>>2019446And my dad is dead and his corpse dust is on the table downstairs. The greatest aviator to ever live, killed by a fucking jew jab I told him he shouldn't get, and now I can't tell him about my Legacy job or his newest grandson or sit down for a beer and stogie with him. It's a damn shame. Don't forget it comes time for all of us eventually, I'll be happy so long as I can teach my boy to fly like he did for me, maybe I'll be half the man he was by then.
>>2019421Last passanger 767 was delivered in 2014. So that one has at least until late 2030s maybe even 2040s. Though one thing that makes it uncertain is how often they get converted into freighters.757 on the other hand hasn't been produced for 21 years. I wouldn't surprised if they stop flying before 2030.
Is anyone here experienced with the Garmin 3000?
Well boys, as many of you already know, being an airline pilot isn't fulfilling. What do I do to achieve enlightenment? Or at least satiety.
>>2019738have a family or paint wh40k figures
Any fellow airline captains that are still hand holdless hugless virgins? Report in!t. Airbus cpt, 34 yrs old
>>2019738What is your idea of fulfilling? >>2019778Ouch. Do you do anything outside of work to meet people?
>>2019742already have a wife and multiple kids, already have automotive and scale model projects, already have religion.>>2019779couldn't tell you
i liek plaens
How exactly does radar work?
>>2019903The radar works on the same principle of echolocation, like a bat uses to find a moth. The radar transmits a focused beam of energy in a specific wavelength, and listens for an echo in the same wavelength. If the beam hits something reflective, like water droplets, it will bounce off and reflect the energy. When the radar receives the reflected wave the signal is processed and displayed for the operator to interpret. The strength of the return can be analogous to the intensity of the precipitation; more reflective is typically heavier precipitation. The louder the echo the bigger the moth, and the radar return is even measured in decibels of reflectivity (dBz). The time that it took from pulse transmission to received echo will yield a distance, hence the ‘ranging’ part of “RADAR”. Conventional weather radars typically utilize a parabolic dish that swivels laterally and vertically to scan a good chunk of sky. The operator usually has control of the tilt angle and preset sweep angles, as well as antenna gain (sensitivity). That’s the gist of it. Here is me attempting to paint an aircraft with an old lower-power weather radar. The system is receiving a return because metal is quite reflective, but since it observed two highly reflective targets at similar distances it thinks it is one larger return and mushes it together.
>>2019778Unrelated but might as well ask.I’m doubtful about going for upgrade, currently at 1200h commercial (1400 total), I’m planning to leave my current airline (Ryanair) sooner or later and would like to try long haul as my next step.I would rather do it sooner than later considering that I’m aiming for Ana and cargolux and getting there as soon as I can is preferable (the former for a mix of my hobbies and interests outside of work the latter for pay and job benefits), Ryan offers the upgrade as soon as you hit the minimum requirements however before jumping ship I heard that I need at least 1000/1500h pic to be worth anything, so between reaching minimums and getting the pic time it would take me at least 5 years still.On one hand the training in Ryan is good and I’ll be a captain in 5 years instead of 7 or 8, on the other it means staying in this airline for a long time and getting based in the worst shithole the network has to offer (leaving the current base that I have which I like and pays well) and staying there for a couple of years.I don’t wanna rush it either, it’s an important step and one that I would like to take with due diligence.t. 27 year old.
>>2019954Always take the upgrade when offered. Always.And long haul life is horrible.Always take the upgrade.
>>2017587San Juan anJuanCome and reap the seniority and the señoritas bröder
>>2019854The fulfillment is a result of gratitude, for which it sounds you have plenty to be grateful for. Congrats anon, you made it.
>>2019954Take the upgrade unless it precludes you from leaving in the near future.>>2019985I guess I'll consider ending it all then
Anon training in Canada here (please don't bully), just completed my night rating, I'll start my time building soon but before I've decided to check my finances : got 45K CAD in my main account and another 15K in a "backup" account (so 60K CAD total)I wonder if 45K will be enough for time building, CPL and Multi IFR?I have around 95 TT with 30 hours of PIC, did my training on a Cessna 150 (and will keep training on the 150) and the rate at my school for one hour is 174,02 CAD (13% tax included)
>>2020103>night rating
I take pictures of planes at work and figured this thread would appreciate it>>>/p/4352821
>>2019959idk if it applies but in america taking the upgrade might not be the best idea depending on your situation. you'll drop to the bottom of a really heavy seniority list, much heavier than the one you'd been onalso yeah don't do long haul if you want a life. the divorce memes you hear about pilots mostly, almost entirely apply to those guys
>>2020170In Ryanair is a bit strange to me, it’s the company that “pushes” command on you instead of you earning it like anywhere else.It’s one of the reasons why I’m a bit hesitant in doing it there.As for long haul.My friend group already fell apart despite doing only regional operations and being home half the week (5 on 4 off but you get the point), no girlfriend to speak of too and I have a you her brother that can take care of my loved ones if an emergency comes up.Long haul is attractive to me mainly because of the earning opportunities and to be able to see the world in a sense instead of landing, setting up and taking off half an hour later to go back to base.Ana is one of the first choices because, beyond me liking the country, I would like to make something out of my martial arts career and going there to learn on my days off seems like a great opportunity to grow and live off it once I have to retire from flying (pension in Italy is a joke).t.Euro of course
>>2020166Really nice pics there, thanks for the link. I especially like the ones with the vapor trails.
>>2020166If you ever get a Delta 220 or Kalitta 747 I'd love to see em. Flown both at various stages of my career.
Already had to deice this morning, it’s too early in the season for this.
>>2020809It's still triple digit heat in PHX, it's too late in the year for this
>>2020809>>2020820the climate does change naturally over time but recently i really have begun to wonder just how much we've been accelerating this
>>2019223wtf is going on with her elbow
>>2019450>The greatest aviator to ever live, killed by a fucking jew jab I told him he shouldn't gettell your retarded dead boomer dad I said ty for the seniority bumpgg no re
>>2020976kill yourself nigger he never flew for the airlines and your mother will die in her sleep tonight
>>2020834I'd rather live in a hot climate than an ice age you fucking retard
>>2020979Plot twist, he knowingly got the covid vaccine because he couldn't bear to live around his retarded gay faggot son (you) any longer
>>2020983rest in piss to youre mom, you will never work for a legacy
not a pilot, just a normie. Anyone ever feel like sometimes they might pass out on takeoff?What's wrong with me. I havent, yet, but there's been a couple of times it was like shit I felt the walls closing in.
>>2021085anxiety
So what's the demographics here? It seems like 70% are fixed wing pilots flying or trying to fly professionally, a few heli pilots and a few enthusiasts who don't really fly. Is this accurate?
>>2021152don't forget us broke people still saving for flight training trying to get an idea of the state of the industry every other month
>>2021153Don't know what your situation is but I did my 3.5 years in the US Military, got out, and used the Post 9/11 GI Bill to pay for school. I actually get a monthly stipend of about $1500 to attend school. Over half of all the pilots at my school are vets.
>>2021154hello zog. no i won't.
>>2021156Lol I don't blame you. That's why I got out. Just know you're entering an industry where the plurality are military vets.
>>2021154hello fellow post 9/11 user. I got a hand me down so I got all the money and did zero military time. feels good man.
Someone told me I should try the aptitude test to become an air traffic controller because it pays a ton of money and requires just practical training. I have a degree in computer science from a top 10 school (globally) but the entire industry is in recession right now which is why I am considering it. Any air traffic controllers in this thread? Any advice?
>>2021183>im a gay DEI tranny from some faggot ass online program for a prestigious but now thoroughly ruined university that farms money>validate me
