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>>2017110
>do you not realize how stacked the WO are with female DEI influencers right now?
Yeah, retards who can't get hired outside of a 7-12 year flow will continue to get owned, and even better if other airlines lap these retards up. All flow hopefuls are retarded and get what they deserve.
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How do you cope with never being able to fly your planefu?
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>>2017251
I could if I blew all my money on a good one as well as space to keep it. Probably better to just save for retirement and whatnot.
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>>2017251
I tell myself that the B747 was my fathers pride, not mine, and that by someday getting on a B777, it'll be the equivalent of it for this era. Short of getting furloughed and going to Atlas, I'll never fly the whale and I'll have to live with that. I'll never be the aviator he was, and he'll never see that aviator I became. That's life.
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>>2017263
You could fly the dreamlifter boeing uses to move parts around. They fly out of the field I live near all the time.
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>>2017263
The 777 is a cool plane. Im not sure it gets as much love as the 747 but very few crafts are at that level.
It wouldve been cool to pilot the same plane as your dad though.

>>2017254
You know ive heard retirement is overrated
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>>2017271
>You know ive heard retirement is overrated
You have a good point.
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>>2017225
they are going to find a way.. they are literally applying to delta and United to get a CJO, start day 1 indoc, put “Delta Air Lines FO” on their resume and reapply to mainline. That’s literally what they all are doing
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>>2017286
Except we ain't hiring, so fuck off to the fag and nig airlines and get furloughed, meanwhile I'm safe from a furlough where I stand, too many thousands of retirements on the horizon.
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>>2017302
>Except we ain't hiring
Oh… you… XD. Hiring is still happening, just classes are paused. The pool of CJOs is still being filled. Wait until January… the will be a furry of new women FOs.
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I passed the CBT for the TSA but my background check has taken 6 months so far
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>Hummel stopped selling plans for the original hummelbird
It's over
Not even the pirate site has them
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>>2017446
Interviews are happening, hiring is not. Go be a acktually fag on reddit and get your upvote gold there
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>>2017533
wait until AA hands out 200 CJOs at RTAG in 3 weeks
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>>2017265
>>2017263
Either this or apply for cargolux, they fly the 747-400 and 800f, you gotta move to Europe to do so tho.
I’ll apply for sure once I get the hours.
It’s an airframe that is on its way out but I would like to give it a shot and fly on it for at least a couple of years before they change the fleet to 777’s.
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At frontier and maybe wanna make a career here. If spirit goes under I think we’re gonna be in really good spot for growth along with hopefully getting a new contract soon.

Right now too with the day trips, I get to be home every night. I feel like I’m not gaining that much by going to a legacy and I’m not interested in the widebody life.

Probably drank the koolaid here, but the vibe is really chill and captains are cool
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>>2017265
>>2017570
Some of us niggas are working our last job in aviation, as in, we are beyond working for Atlas, etc to fly a cool 4 engine heavy. I make more as a Boeing regional jet driver than I would flying ACMI again. I actually had a CJO with Atlas before the promised land called, and when it's a career vs a cool type, career comes first. Plus Atlas was handing out class dates 6 months in advance, so I couldn't even get a type and quit. A real shame.
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How many hours flying is ag is too many where the airlines will not be interested in me? Getting a little tired of the grind, feel like I’ve rolled the dice enough times that I’m statistically due for a real banger in the next few years. I am not too enthused about fire.
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>>2017587
denver is probably the only desirable base there but if you want to upgrade there you're going to have to wait literally forever
i think wn's 3 on 4 off as a standard might be better. and you want want day trips you can bid for them.
don't go to wn though i need less competition
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>>2017629
I mean I’m at the company and like where I live lol. Schedule is all relative to what you want. I like day trips. Commuters can have the overnights
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>>2017525
It has to be out there somewhere. However I don't think pirate sites are where you're going to find it. I'd say old forums would be a better bet or archives of them if they exist. A lot of shit has disappeared this last decade.
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>>2017628
there is no "too many", assuming you're flying a tractor, the ASEL turbine tailwheel time gives alot of cool points in your SkyWest interview. If you're just flying like a C180, it's not nearly as valuable, but time is time and PIC is PIC. Delta will say you have "too much" time to be trainable at a certain mark, but I believe it's +5,000 hours, and who know what they're actually hiring these days.
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Anyone else like to watch radar?
https://www.flightradar24.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R62lqs5Gx_U
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>>2017652
Mostly to see who is approaching too low over my house. That and when military are in the area making noise. Most times they run with their transponder turned off though. I like living so close to several air strips both civilian and military but it has some consequences.
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>>2017188
is it true a lot of pilots have a fear of heights
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>>2017807
I can't speak for everyone else but I personally do. Tho being a pilot has certainly helped. I recently went on a zipline adventure thing. If I had done this a few years ago before I started flying I think I would have been a lot more nervous but I had a lot of fun.
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>>2017800
heli master race, fixed wing fags btfo
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>>2017807
A lot do, but a fear of heights is more a fear of falling, which is natural. An airplane operates three-dimensionally; altitude change is controllable and measurable, so the falling element isn't there.
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would you end your flying career if your youtube channel made you much more money?
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>>2018018
>Ryanair captain
Doing anything else is way less stressful.
So yes, most likely, however the smart move would be doing that and in the mean time piggybacking your fame and opening a flight school/mentored program to gain even more money.
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To the European commercial pilots ITT:
What do you consider to be the dream company that you would like to fly for?
How do you plan on getting there?
Trying to outline a plan myself as I will be entering the industry in 2 years or so.
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>>2017251
My planefu is an Ercoupe. I will fly one before I die, they are too (relatively) cheap and too common to miss out on.
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>>2017198
Are these windows? I know the A340 had lower deck toilets, galley, and crew rest area, but I didn't know they had windows in them.
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>>2018122
>lower deck toilets
A three-holer!
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>>2017188
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>>2018087
I don’t really have a favorite airline, it can also depend where would you like to live and what kind of operations you would like to do.
Me personally I would like to fly for cargolux for a bit because of the 747 and the pay, but mainly I would prefer to go live in Japan for a couple of years to further my hobbies so I’m monitoring both jal and Ana if I can get on a 777 or 787 it would be even better.
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>>2018018
that guy makes nearly 14 000 usd a month from patreon subscriptions alone
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Been watching Masters of the Air, really makes me think when I'm going to be drafted to fight in the Ukraine/Taiwan/Israeli air war to fight for globohomo against my will.
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>>2018453
that's why you join the guard/reserve dummy. just like george bush and clinton, skate your way out of actual deployment
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>>2018455
clinton never played soldier, and weekend warrioring isnt a way out of deploying anymore, vietnam was 50 years ago. its changed bud. plus im not giving up my airline salary to be a lewtenant and do powerpoints and refill the snack room. I make what a 3 star makes, military pay is pathetic
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>>2018415
that was not the question
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>>2018018
Depends how much I would like flying, yeah, you're making more money but you won't be flying jet planes anymore. Maybe he bought some sick MSFS setup.
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>>2018461
lmao as if you'll have a choice. they will put you in prison if you don't go.
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>>2018526
you too there bud, and you first
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will aviation be dead by this time next year?
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>>2018539
What do you mean by dead?
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>>2018539
Yes, all airplane will be grounded and people will go back to traveling by boat and trains.
>Just trust me bro
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>>2018479
>MSFS setup
fuck that, with youtube money I'd buy a nice GA plane (if the money isn't great something like Cessna, if it is something like Cirrus) and you can still make youtube content with that while also flying when you like and where you like
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>>2018552
>>2018605
airspace will be limited to government operations use only during wartime
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>>2018660
KEK
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>>2018661
>>2018664
sorry, but the only people worthy of flying during wartime are the military and the elite. everyone else, including civilian pilots serve no purpose in the air and will only get in the way
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>>2018665
You seem like one of those guys who buries a shipping container in their back yard and fills it with two years worth of soup and toilet paper.
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>>2018665
>military
>flying

lol, thats cool you just got winged Lieutenant, but I need you to get back to managing the powerpoint slides or it may negatively impact your OPR. Is that understood?? Oh and we're out of money for this fiscal year, so no more flying until congress passes the next budget. Don't worry about going weeks unpaid, it happens every year, you get used to it. Don't think you can skip work though, I'd hate to court martial you for going AWOL. HAHAHAHAHA
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why dont planes use multi element wings?
dont tell me about fowler flaps
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>>2018815
The big ones do.
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>>2018816
my brother in christ is that not a fowler flap?
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>>2018817
Yes, and it is a multi element wing. Anything beyond that would add weight and additional drag.
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>>2018815
less efficient unless you have span limitations.
your ricer piece of shit Ford Mustang has to fit onto one lane of the road. That is why you need multiple elements.
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>>2018116
>My planefu is an Ercoupe. I will fly one before I die, they are too (relatively) cheap and too common to miss out on.
Based
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>>2018116
Nice. I put some hours on a few of those, its surprising how well it straightens itself out when you land crabbed. Also, their stall characteristics didn't seem to be quite as advertised, I got a lot of wing drop once, recovered by just loosening up on the controls. Never found out if that plane was rigged wrong or if they are all like that.

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General question for anyone on this thread. I quit flying about three years when I thought I would never get my medical back. Turned out I might actually be eligible for a first class, no limitations, no special issuance.

I'm at about 1100 hours, Multi, Commercial, no CFI. How would the job market look if I was to get back in? I would be willing to relocate anywhere. I know the airline hiring wave seems to be over, but how much of that has trickled into 91 and 135? I'd be all over flying a 207 in alaska, but I can't figure out what hours the 135s in bethel are looking for these days.

Is getting in the right seat of a caravan as "SIC" gone now?

It seems like dropzones aren't posting a lot of jobs, but its the end of the season for most of the country.
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>>2019037
Outside of being a CFI, you're looking at a stagnant airline and Part 135 market currently. Some regionals require a training contract, Horizon is requiring previous 121 experience to even apply. If you think you can get your First Class back, fight that fight today so when your medical is back in hand, you can get right to a better airline market. I can't speak to current CFI market needs, but yeah, right seat Caravan is not around currently without a training contract.
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>1300 total time, all rATP mins met except multi-engine time (still need rating), STEM degree magna cum laud, gold seal CFI, previous career at large finacial institution, mid-late 30s.
When should I start applying to regionals? Are any still hiring? Whats the chances of me making it to a legacy? I feel too old to make it to the top and have heard that DL, UA, AA don't like hiring guys past 35.
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>>2019104
>meet RATP mins
>don't have multi rating
nigger the rating is Airline Transport Pilot, Airplane Multiengine Land

Also the "over 35" is a meme left over from the Pan Am and TWA days, there have been 60 year olds in classes this year. Go get 121 time, go get turbine PIC, and climb the ladder as far as you can
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>>2017188
>deathly afraid of flying and turbulence, to the point that when I was about to get on a plane to Europe I almost cried because I was so nervous
>still somewhat interested in learning how to fly
Is this common at all
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>>2019138
Just don't get in business planes like the one you posted and you're safe.
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>>2019147
I know that airplane travel is safe and the whole "If you made it to the airport the risky part of the trip is over" but I still get really nervous for some reason
Also I thought even business planes like that one were relatively safe, less so than airliners and more turbulent
I just think it looks cool which is why I posted it
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>>2019138
>zomfg I'm surely gonna die because of harmless turbulence
>doesn't die
>zomfg but this time I'll surely die
>still doesn't die
>repeat
I don't think mentally ill people should consider flying lessons
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>>2019104
Air Wisconsin is hiring FOs with RATP mins

https://airwis.com/
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>>2019152
It's not so much that I think I'm gonna die, I just get really nervous about it
Of course flight lessons are a pipe dream that I may never actually do
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>>2019104
>1300 TT
>R-ATP mins but no multi rating
How? If you qualified for a reduced R-ATP you would have gotten AMEL Comm at your University. If you mean a 1500 R-ATP then obviously you don't meet mins due to total time. Chances at a Legacy are 99% if you spice up your resume over the next 5 years. Idk who told you some bullshit about age, but there have been 64 year old dudes getting hired at the Big 3 in the previous 10 years. The question is, would you be interested in a Legacy job over a LCC job due to seniority movement or upgrades. That you'll have to ask yourself.

>>2019138
“About ninety percent of all military aviators are afraid of heights. It’s because there is a direct link between a fear of heights and the need to be in control. We don’t know if people who are control freaks become military aviators, or military aviators become control freaks. It doesn’t matter."
https://code7700.com/rule_13.htm
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Keep flying frens you'll make it one day :)
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>>2019223
is she rent free? are you obsessed? are are you just a simp coomer for some rotten snatch?
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>>2019235
>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
You're as pathetic as >>2019223
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>>2019248
nigga balls
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>>2019050
Thanks for the advice. I walked out with a new first class today after a normal exam, no SODA or anything needed.

Thanks for the advice on all of that.
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>>2019304
Big congrats, I've heard the SODA process of old got tossed out for something more cumbersome requiring renewal, but again, big congrats on a First Class in hand. I don't think you should sit idly, but I don't have any good time building advice beyond muh CFI. Depending on the market, ATP-CTP may end up being out of pocket until the next hiring wave. I'm not saying you should pay for it today, I'm saying you should budget for it just in case you need to pay for it tomorrow. Don't forget the cost of airfare and hotels.

On a side note, not to make assumptions, if you had previously disclosed something to the FAA that'd kill your medical, and you #ignored it today, the FAA will revoke your latest First Class with a letter in the mail, because obviously your AME wouldn't know. I hope you made the right steps.
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>>2019336
Thanks man. I'm planning to get current before anything else and start looking around. Noted on the ATP-CTP.

On the medical, my AME and I were extremely careful to get everything correct and complete. It was a weird one, but ultimately the FAA doesn't consider it a problem.
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I have only ever flown on the A320 and 737 in my life. And now I'm realizing that soon there won't be any chances to fly the A340, A380 and 747. I should probably start looking at flights with these aircrafts while I still have the chance.
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>>2019371
The A380 will probably be around for a while, the 747 is kill, I'm surprised the A340 isn't dead yet.
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>>2019385
Well according to some article Luftansa will operate the 747-400 and A340 till 2028. And will operate the 747-8 into the 2030s. So I guess I gotta fly on them.
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how long do we have left for passenger 767s and 757s? particularly the 767-400 and 757-300
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>>2019156
Thanks anon.
>>2019174
>>2019109
Meant to say 1500 R-ATP. All the minimums except multi are in the bag. Just waiting for a slow down in student work load and for it to come out of maintenance.
Is it worth getting an MEI if no one at my flight school gets their multi there?
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>>2017263
Man my dad is a fucking unemployed drug addict. I really hope you know how lucky you are to have a real man for a father. Anyway both 747 and 777 are incredible airplanes
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>>2019437
I got my MEI and used it all of 30 hours before fucking out of the CFI world, MEI ain't worth shit unless you know it's worth your while. If you know you'll get students, it might be worth it. Example, you need 25 hours multi for an ATP and you get your Comm Multi in 10 or less hours. Most schools won't rent your a Multi to time build without an instructor onboard, so if you have to build 15 more hours, you may as well get your MEI training if you're spending the money to time build anyway.

>>2019446
And my dad is dead and his corpse dust is on the table downstairs. The greatest aviator to ever live, killed by a fucking jew jab I told him he shouldn't get, and now I can't tell him about my Legacy job or his newest grandson or sit down for a beer and stogie with him. It's a damn shame. Don't forget it comes time for all of us eventually, I'll be happy so long as I can teach my boy to fly like he did for me, maybe I'll be half the man he was by then.
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>>2019421
Last passanger 767 was delivered in 2014. So that one has at least until late 2030s maybe even 2040s. Though one thing that makes it uncertain is how often they get converted into freighters.

757 on the other hand hasn't been produced for 21 years. I wouldn't surprised if they stop flying before 2030.
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Is anyone here experienced with the Garmin 3000?
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Well boys, as many of you already know, being an airline pilot isn't fulfilling. What do I do to achieve enlightenment? Or at least satiety.
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>>2019738
have a family or paint wh40k figures
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Any fellow airline captains that are still hand holdless hugless virgins? Report in!

t. Airbus cpt, 34 yrs old
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>>2019738
What is your idea of fulfilling?
>>2019778
Ouch. Do you do anything outside of work to meet people?
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>>2019742
already have a wife and multiple kids, already have automotive and scale model projects, already have religion.

>>2019779
couldn't tell you
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i liek plaens
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How exactly does radar work?
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>>2019903
The radar works on the same principle of echolocation, like a bat uses to find a moth. The radar transmits a focused beam of energy in a specific wavelength, and listens for an echo in the same wavelength. If the beam hits something reflective, like water droplets, it will bounce off and reflect the energy. When the radar receives the reflected wave the signal is processed and displayed for the operator to interpret. The strength of the return can be analogous to the intensity of the precipitation; more reflective is typically heavier precipitation. The louder the echo the bigger the moth, and the radar return is even measured in decibels of reflectivity (dBz). The time that it took from pulse transmission to received echo will yield a distance, hence the ‘ranging’ part of “RADAR”. Conventional weather radars typically utilize a parabolic dish that swivels laterally and vertically to scan a good chunk of sky. The operator usually has control of the tilt angle and preset sweep angles, as well as antenna gain (sensitivity). That’s the gist of it.

Here is me attempting to paint an aircraft with an old lower-power weather radar. The system is receiving a return because metal is quite reflective, but since it observed two highly reflective targets at similar distances it thinks it is one larger return and mushes it together.
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>>2019778
Unrelated but might as well ask.
I’m doubtful about going for upgrade, currently at 1200h commercial (1400 total), I’m planning to leave my current airline (Ryanair) sooner or later and would like to try long haul as my next step.
I would rather do it sooner than later considering that I’m aiming for Ana and cargolux and getting there as soon as I can is preferable (the former for a mix of my hobbies and interests outside of work the latter for pay and job benefits), Ryan offers the upgrade as soon as you hit the minimum requirements however before jumping ship I heard that I need at least 1000/1500h pic to be worth anything, so between reaching minimums and getting the pic time it would take me at least 5 years still.
On one hand the training in Ryan is good and I’ll be a captain in 5 years instead of 7 or 8, on the other it means staying in this airline for a long time and getting based in the worst shithole the network has to offer (leaving the current base that I have which I like and pays well) and staying there for a couple of years.
I don’t wanna rush it either, it’s an important step and one that I would like to take with due diligence.
t. 27 year old.
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>>2019954
Always take the upgrade when offered. Always.

And long haul life is horrible.

Always take the upgrade.
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>>2017587
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Come and reap the seniority and the señoritas bröder
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>>2019854
The fulfillment is a result of gratitude, for which it sounds you have plenty to be grateful for. Congrats anon, you made it.
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>>2019954
Take the upgrade unless it precludes you from leaving in the near future.

>>2019985
I guess I'll consider ending it all then
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Anon training in Canada here (please don't bully), just completed my night rating, I'll start my time building soon but before I've decided to check my finances : got 45K CAD in my main account and another 15K in a "backup" account (so 60K CAD total)
I wonder if 45K will be enough for time building, CPL and Multi IFR?
I have around 95 TT with 30 hours of PIC, did my training on a Cessna 150 (and will keep training on the 150) and the rate at my school for one hour is 174,02 CAD (13% tax included)
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>night rating
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>>2019959
idk if it applies but in america taking the upgrade might not be the best idea depending on your situation. you'll drop to the bottom of a really heavy seniority list, much heavier than the one you'd been on
also yeah don't do long haul if you want a life. the divorce memes you hear about pilots mostly, almost entirely apply to those guys
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>>2020170
In Ryanair is a bit strange to me, it’s the company that “pushes” command on you instead of you earning it like anywhere else.
It’s one of the reasons why I’m a bit hesitant in doing it there.
As for long haul.
My friend group already fell apart despite doing only regional operations and being home half the week (5 on 4 off but you get the point), no girlfriend to speak of too and I have a you her brother that can take care of my loved ones if an emergency comes up.
Long haul is attractive to me mainly because of the earning opportunities and to be able to see the world in a sense instead of landing, setting up and taking off half an hour later to go back to base.
Ana is one of the first choices because, beyond me liking the country, I would like to make something out of my martial arts career and going there to learn on my days off seems like a great opportunity to grow and live off it once I have to retire from flying (pension in Italy is a joke).
t.Euro of course
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>>2020166
Really nice pics there, thanks for the link. I especially like the ones with the vapor trails.
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>>2020166
If you ever get a Delta 220 or Kalitta 747 I'd love to see em. Flown both at various stages of my career.
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Already had to deice this morning, it’s too early in the season for this.
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>>2020809
It's still triple digit heat in PHX, it's too late in the year for this
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>>2020809
>>2020820
the climate does change naturally over time but recently i really have begun to wonder just how much we've been accelerating this
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>>2019223
wtf is going on with her elbow
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>>2019450
>The greatest aviator to ever live, killed by a fucking jew jab I told him he shouldn't get
tell your retarded dead boomer dad I said ty for the seniority bump
gg no re
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>>2020976
kill yourself nigger he never flew for the airlines and your mother will die in her sleep tonight
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>>2020834
I'd rather live in a hot climate than an ice age you fucking retard
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>>2020979
Plot twist, he knowingly got the covid vaccine because he couldn't bear to live around his retarded gay faggot son (you) any longer
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>>2020983
rest in piss to youre mom, you will never work for a legacy
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not a pilot, just a normie. Anyone ever feel like sometimes they might pass out on takeoff?
What's wrong with me. I havent, yet, but there's been a couple of times it was like shit I felt the walls closing in.
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>>2021085
anxiety
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So what's the demographics here? It seems like 70% are fixed wing pilots flying or trying to fly professionally, a few heli pilots and a few enthusiasts who don't really fly. Is this accurate?
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>>2021152
don't forget us broke people still saving for flight training trying to get an idea of the state of the industry every other month
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>>2021153
Don't know what your situation is but I did my 3.5 years in the US Military, got out, and used the Post 9/11 GI Bill to pay for school. I actually get a monthly stipend of about $1500 to attend school. Over half of all the pilots at my school are vets.
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>>2021154
hello zog. no i won't.
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>>2021156
Lol I don't blame you. That's why I got out. Just know you're entering an industry where the plurality are military vets.
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>>2021154
hello fellow post 9/11 user. I got a hand me down so I got all the money and did zero military time. feels good man.
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Someone told me I should try the aptitude test to become an air traffic controller because it pays a ton of money and requires just practical training. I have a degree in computer science from a top 10 school (globally) but the entire industry is in recession right now which is why I am considering it. Any air traffic controllers in this thread? Any advice?
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>>2021183
>im a gay DEI tranny from some faggot ass online program for a prestigious but now thoroughly ruined university that farms money
>validate me
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Delta
United
American

which is the better legacy to work for?
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>>2021606
The answer is simply "Where do you live". If you're in NY or LA, the answer is DL for almost everything, and AA for seniority. Otherwise you aim for whoever has a base in the city you live, then who has regional service where you live. The Big 3 are all the same thing within reason.
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>>2021606
>which is the better legacy to work for?
Whichever one hires you
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>>2021703
even if that means commuting for the rest of your life?
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>>2021720
there's this great company called uhaul, check it out after you get hired
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>>2021704
by telling them the airlines have froze hiring and boeing will be bankrupt by the time you complete school
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>>2021753
Worst case scenario I join the military and die a horrific agonizing death burning alive in the wreckage of a helicopter
So I think it's a good idea
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low time pilot about to finish up my certs. Why shouldn't I accept a job at optic air? Legit question

Here's a list of things I give half a shit about
>building time
>pay to an extent
>safety
>eventually getting multi time

things I do not give a single shit about
>home time
>work life balance
>"hard" work
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>>2020163
It's pretty well part of commercial, but a separate thing so private pilots can fly the other six months the year here.
>>2020103
Shit five years ago I'd say yeah for sure. Nowadays I'm not too certain. If possible recommend getting the fuck out of this hellhole and getting south the border.

Being canada is suffering, our biggest airline just gave FO's a yuge pay bump. Now they make like 60 grand a year american. wow
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how to get airline scholarship in yurop xirs?
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>>2021726
imagine moving anywhere within 60 miles of a Delta base
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>>2021824
Good thing I don't work for delta
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This might be a stupid question but do you need to wear hearing protection inside certain planes? I saw some video of a guy riding in a WWII bomber and he had earplugs in, are some plane engines so loud that you need to wear hearing protection even inside the cabin to avoid hearing damage? Is this the case for Cessnas?

All I've ever flown is on big airliners for vacations and such
>>2017800
>>2017828
I'd ideally like to learn both someday
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>>2022032
Most turboprops I'd advise a pilot wear ANR, and for sure on the B737, though the MAXs I fly are quieter. Not sure if it'll stay that way as those MAXs age like the NGs I also fly. Alternatively, when I was on the B767, we wore thin Telexes below FL180 and were topless above it, speaker and hand mic at cruise. I can get away with that sometimes on a MAX, but usually only above quiet airspace like WATRS or the northern Midwest.

To your question, yes you need earpro on Cessnas, but your Dave Clark headset is your earpro, it's called Passive Noise Redution (PNR) which means that the headset itself is so thick that it's like you covering your ears with your hands. I've never worn earplugs inside of a headset, and if you're doing so, just buy an ANR instead.
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>>2022045
Another stupid question, what's an ANR?

Also damn I didn't realize the cockpit in a big airliner was louder than the cabin
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>>2022062
NTA
It's Active Noise Reduction. Noise canceling is another term for it. It's worth it. I regret buying my PNR headset, my Bose headset is so much better and makes communications so much easier to understand. Highly worth the stupidly high price. Plus it does amazing on batteries, I use rechargeable eneloops and change them once a month even though they still have plenty of power. I just want to avoid them dying on me.
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>>2021824
>implying Salt Lake City isn't as close to heaven as we'll get on this gay retarded earth
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>>2022101
If it weren't populated by fucking mormons then maybe
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>>2022102
You'd be surprised how much the mormon population has fallen the last few decades. Last I heard they were less than 40% which is nuts for a city they founded and have their giant church at. Neat amusement park is a few miles down the road.
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>>2021753
The job market sucks cock in every single field niglet.
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>>2022244
not really, which is why i cancelled my lessons and got my class a cdl instead
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>>2022254
Lmao retard
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>>2022254
even less time at home, even less qol options, even worse overall qol regardless, less money, and your colleagues are jeets and mexicans and resentful blacks and low class whites
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>>2022261
have fun paying off your debt working at mcdonalds, if you can even get a job there

>>2022264
>qol
i'm not a faggot or a woman. when you're on the road the only people you're dealing with are other drivers and yourself. no uppity captain/copilot and retarded passengers, just total solitude
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>>2022265
>*replaces you*
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>>2022267
really? i thought pilots were supposed to be smart
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>>2022268
nobody claims you have to be smart to be a pilot
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>>2022265
> i'm not a faggot or a woman. when you're on the road the only people you're dealing with are other drivers and yourself. no uppity captain/copilot and retarded passengers, just total solitude
What an absolute shit take lol
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>>2022273
aww do you need to be surrounded by other people for attention and validation? are you scared to be left all by yourself with no one there to help you?
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>>2022268
>he thinks the FAA will ever let ai replace pilots
Lol, not after 9/11 niglet
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https://youtu.be/3NwxGbqpxwo
neat
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>>2022299
Didn't look like he was full flaps but he set it down nice and gentle so I guess it worked out in the end.
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is there such a thing as a electric propellers powered with a gas piston engine?
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>>2022325
There are fully electric and normal planes. I haven't heard of a hybrid yet. I guess you could have a small wankle or two cylinder engine powering a generator that then could power a couple small electric motors. Guess the main issues would be how much would it weigh compared to just using a traditional engine design.
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>>2022276
I’d prefer to make money and be home enough to see my wife and son enough. QOL is everything for those who enjoy theirs. Enjoy those rest stop nights and traffic jams.
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what jobs are out there if you don't make it as an airlinefag
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>>2022493
i would say don't throw in the towel because hiring will start to open the taps again within the next decade or so but the less competition in any career the better so give up
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>>2022493
>helicopter shit
>corporate
>ag
>air ambulance
>firefighting tanker
>bush flying
>middle of nowhere cargo wagie
>flight doctor (lol)
>call your local recrooter
I want to make it as an air ambulance or aerial firefighting chad. I will NOT be an airline chud.
What do I need to do to get there?
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>>2022493
Don't make it, or don't want it. By airlines, do you mean passengers, or any Part 121? Be honest about whether you don't want it, or couldn't make it.
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In the coming days, allegiant 737 max will come into scheduled service. Some carriers are permitted to have cold soaked fuel frost within allowable limits on the aircraft wings. Until further notice the is no acceptable amount of frost allowed on allegiant 737 max wings.
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>>2022823
okay? whats your point?
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first time on /n/ can anyone identify what type of plane this is? It was flying very low and in circles. On flight radar info it only said "no callsign". It headed away to the county in the NW and went off the radar. This is in rural SW Pennsylvania.

Please save me from asking reddit.
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>>2022900
>>2022901
kinda looks like a c17. military training or something probably
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>>2021183
>I have a degree in computer science from a top 10 school
Are you fucking retarded? Just go get a software job, you'll make more money.
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>>2022900
C17 probably from the 911th in PGH
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Do you guys bang the cabin crew?
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>>2022900
>>2022901
undoubtedly a C-17, an extremely common aircraft. You belong on reddit, please go back and never return.
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i swear half my god damn pics are deltas or jetblues

trying a smaller camera (sony zv1)
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>>2022970
cool action shot of a blade helo
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>>2022971
morning push yesterday
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One thing I'm still wondering from Instrument training: You have an IFR flight plan, you arrive at your airport but you don't have your minimum visibility requirements, you fly to your alternate but the weather has gotten worse and you don't have minimum vis there either. Do you just land anyways before you run out of fuel because it's an emergency now?
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>>2022986
Should’ve chose a better alternate and done your homework with the weather. Declare an emergency, shoot an approach with the lowest minimums (preferably an ILS or LPV), and violate 91.175 if only if you need to get the plane on the ground.
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>>2022986
There's a reason the alternate minimums required are relatively high. But correct, not all alternates will work, ATC can and will suggest suitable airports if you ask for help. Also consider that "Flight Visibility" is not visibility reported by an AWOS/ASOS, it's what you see with your eyes. A VOR approach may only get you down to 600 feet AGL, but by seeing lights you can continue down as low as 100 feet AGL as an example. As a general statement, if you can see the approach lights/runway environment, your flight visibility is suitable to land. Everyone says "I'd just keep going bro" when vis is low, but until you're actually flying with visibility that low, you don't know how unsettling it really is, and you're more likely to pussy out to another airport unless you are truly about to run out of gas. I've shot less than 5 real approaches to minimums in my life, its just not all that common in the US sunbelt. RIP to the real ones in the Northwest and Northeast, glad I ain't you guys.

Notable exception to this, the RVR on an equipped runway is so good that the FAA says a pilot cannot override its report with flight visibility. Keep in mind there are notable exceptions to visibility requirements depending on your Operating Rules and op specs as applicable.
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>>2022972
one of my favorite parts about working here is the sunrises and sunsets

sky looked really pretty this morning, i was watching over contractors reseeding a island
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>>2023034
luftwaffe baby bus, wonder what it was doing in usa, maybe german diplomats
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FIRE EVERYONE...TOO GREEDY....WHEN BOEING THE PRIDE OF AMERICA IS UNDERGOING SO MANY ISSUES...UNION WORKERS ARE STABBING THE COMPANY AND TAKING THE BOEING GO DOWN...AND DURING THIS PROCESS THEY ALSO GO DOWN...SUCH A STUPID WORKERS....JUST FIRE THEM ....TWO CRASH .....ALREADY....BAD QUALITY WORKER THAT IS WHY THESE PEOPLE ASKING FOR 40% RAISE AND PENSION?
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>>2020703

i delivered, missed the dal a220 though he took off 31L@KE and i was parallel to 4L
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>>2023097
image quality is noticeably worse but i can at least stuff this thing in the pocket of my cargo pants (sony zv1 vs nikon z50 w/50-250mm lens)
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>>2023098
a little out of focus but its not as good at lower light cuz small sensor + learning how to use it still
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>>2023101
DAL A220 photo came out not bad considering it was shot through the windshield. Was at like 6pm. Forgot the pic.
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>>2023097
That's gorgeous.
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>>2023554
actually not crazy about this camera, i might sell it. kinda "eh" vs my nikon z50. you can tell the difference in sensors makes it harder to get fine details out in shots. its nice for snapshits though. maybe if i find a good deal on a a5100 w/18-50 lens i'll get that instead as a edc cam
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>>2023555
maybe i'll start another thread on /p/ and just link it here. gonna nap i have to get ready for work in 4-5 hours
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>>2023108
Thanks anon those were great pictures. In an ironic turn of events N709CK is one of the few at the fleet I never flew while I was there. I have flown 744 though.>>2023555
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>>2023589
no worries and thanks, im jfk airport ops so i always get a chance to take pics. if you have any requests i'll try to accommodate
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>>2023628
i really like how this swiss came out
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>>2023629
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I've resigned to the fact that I will have to rely on the flow. There is almost 0 chance of getting hired by United and Delta before I hit my flow # at this point. United is pissing me the fuck off too with their DEI shit. Their recruiting department is rude too, I've spoken with 3 recruiters from there and all 3 have acted stuck up. Fuck them
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>>2023664
Listen dude, as someone at AA who also despises Eagle flows, you simply can't win em all. You could always attempt to go to a LCC or Cargo and then apply back to AA, but that's a big risk as you know. Whats your approx time to flow?
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>>2023673
>You could always attempt to go to a LCC or Cargo
no way in hell i'm going LCC right now. I know someone who left my company and went to cargo, now hes stuck there and can't leave. so fuck that too.
>TIme to flow?
2 years. With the way the other 2 legacies are being about hiring, i fucking doubt its going to happen before flow
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really not a fan of these new anti-spam things but not letting this thread die either
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>>2024028
im gonna buy lightroom when it goes on sale on BF, dxophotolab is mid kinda feel like LR gives faster workflow + ability to edit raws on my phone
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im taking this in 3 weeks to mexico city, pretty sure i saw the captain of this jet post vlog his flights on tiktok
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>>2024033
some traffic on the ramp
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https://x.com/OnDisasters/status/1855269130317824153
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>>2024486
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>thread is on page 5

youre not dying on me
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>>2025275

i think this was with a nd filter at the lowest setting from the slight corner viginetting, im using a sony zv1 (point and shoot meant for youtubers) with a 40.5mm stick on filter adapter and K&F variable nd2-nd400 filter

not crazy about the nd filter, just gives my pics third world white balance (everything is brown) but the viginetting i think is the filter having a thick frame + the filter adapter being too small
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>>2025276
love how this one came out, i might've switched to a hoya 40.5mm cpl? anyways the cpl is gonna stay on my cam most of the time imo, thinner frame on the filter = minimal viginetting
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>>2025278
i sold my nikon z50 at a camera store so no more distance shots...but i got big things in the works (sony a7c w/50-350mm lens next year)
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>>2025284
big KAL 747-8 landing
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>>2025287
finally JAL A350-1000

it was sunrise on a dusky day so lighting worked great.
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>>2025290
forgot this first
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>spir-it's over
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>>2025847
starting to see a lot of these 787s on routes previously flown by 777-200s (iirc some of them were original release from the early 90s)
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