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could you /n/oggers keep up with nyc bike messengers from pre-9/11? what do you think of their setups? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyitrLKUUJI
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90s London messengers were based also.
Saw the potential of the 90s mtb before anyone else, were already pimping them for urban riding.
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Can never be a bike messenger in 2024 and beyond. Why live
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>>2018742
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this was a great doc thank you
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>>2018738
Man that style of graphic design/typesetting hits my nostalgia so hard. Everybody's obsessed with the frutiger aero thing now and thinks everything in the late '90s/early '00s was all transparent purple plastic and fake chrome but that whole grunge aesthetic was all over the place and is what really defines the era for me.
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I hate new york but there is nothing like that new york feel
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>>2018823
I know what you mean. I wish teleporters were a real thing so I could go to places like NYC and Tokyo whenever I feel like it, but without having to actually live there.
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>>2018713
Thanks man, this was a nice watch

Real talk though, are fixies really the best bike for this style of riding or is it just a culture/tradition thing?
I don't see how throwing a few gears in there would hurt, even on the flats. Especially since there is a lot of stop and go in the city even for those who are good at weaving and squeezing
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>>2018867
It's a style. In the late 80s and most of the 90s mountain bikes converted to single speed were the weapon of choice for NY messengers
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>>2018867
Fixies are super efficient once you get the hang of them and are cheap theft deterrents, too.
>t. best friend was bike courier bitd
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>>2018822
You wouldn't download a car.
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>>2018795
sovlless.
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>>2018795
YOU VILL WEAR ZE KYUUBE UND YOU VILL BE HAPPI
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>>2018867
part of it was for low maintenance. if something fucks up during work, you don't want to go home after 8 hours and then work more on your bike, you want to chill or do something fun. so less gears=less maintenance. if you're in flat-ass Manhattan, single speed is not as great of a disadvantage, but apparently they were popular in SF, too, which doesn't make any kind of sense to me . but when you're young and you want to flex, I guess they thought it made you cool
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>>2018713
>that cabbie admitting he does near misses on cyclists to teach them lessons
I hope he died
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>>2018932
and whaddya know, he's a giant bucket of lard
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>>2018713
fr, thanks for this documentary, idk how I haven't seen it yet but when I first started delivering, some of the longest couriers were the 90s nyc messengers and they were hard af, by the time they found their way to my city (Chicago) they've already delivered in all the greatest messengering cities, nyc, dc, sf, portland
>could you /n/oggers keep up with nyc bike messengers from pre-9/11?
fuck no, when I was still green 10 years ago, I've had the opportunity to share the streets with some of the greatest and I could not keep up, even to this day now, I feel like I'm still a noob compared to those guys who spent a whole lifetime dodging traffic, not just that, but acquiring street knowledge of different cities puts them on a different ball game, 99% of my mileage has been only in my city. I might be an expert of pathfinding in my city but put me any other city and I'll admit, I'd feel green again.
>stay boring
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>>2018932
futile effort, we all know cyclists never learn
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>>2018822
Nice, I like that, I do remeber skateborading magz & videos with that same font of writing during that time,
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>>2018822
>>2019503
Raygun was considered the source of that style that everyone else followed.

in my graphic design classes back then, the instructors told us not to steal ideas, and they singled out Raygun specifically , because they all read it and they would mark us down for stealing
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>>2019539
OUTSIDE MENTIONED
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>>2018713
Interesting documentary. Thank you.
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>>2020845
try this one
https://vimeo.com/6693075
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>>2018713
I'm surprised people here didn't know about Pedal, but thanks for reposting it for them and sharing

And to answer your questions, hell no, and they're very unique and definitely personal art
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>>2018742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atWhdDLFKz4
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>>2018823
ah yeah, the beautiful feel of being surrounded by loud shitboxes, loud beggars, loud minorities, shitty exposed brick buildings, concrete and soulless stores. how fucking beautiful
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>>2018823
>>2021110
it was great before covid
I swear a switch was flipped sometime in like 2018 and it started to feel like everyone you'd walk past was hispanic all of a sudden
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>>2021239
the migrant influx, it's like that here too ("sanctuary city"). Ngl, I'm sick and tired of being guilt tripped by the homeless migrant outside of the grocery selling candy and begging for money. It's heartless but my anxiety makes me hate them more each time they try to guilt trip me into giving them money. They also approach me while I'm eating my meal by myself at the park, I didn't ask for a guilt trip session while I'm enjoying my food by myself motherfuckers
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>>2020849
Quite enjoyable, thanks anon.
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>>2021280
Maybe you should get out of the third world, loser.
t. Yuropooooor lol
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is this the endgame of vehicular cycling?
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>>2018713
aw hell naw, my pin legs cant keep up.
that and the traffic would spook me.
>>2018742
maybe there is still some demand for couriers to haul more lucrative goods.
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>>2022117
There is. I've met a couple guys who do it, it's not so much documents now I guess but garments getting shuttled back and forth for the fashion industry (whatever that means.) So, I think they're mostly riding cargo bikes now. As far as I've seen, they're real crusty and bitter middle-aged dudes, not what hipsters want to be, but maybe what they're destined to become.
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>>2022117
it's funny that they made this guy a semi-antagonist for riding a nice road bike instead of a brakeless fixie
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>>2022223
drugs.
Lots of uber eats etc
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>>2018713
Hardcore. 90s early 00s NY had some gritty yet pulling vibe to it, now it's just yuppie jews owning everything.
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>>2021239
you speak as if new york was le great before covid. it was always an ugly, kinda unsafe city with lots of cool things to do
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>>2025727
Yeah, New York has always elated itself in its own eyes and yet always been thought of by outsiders as a shit stain on the map, if not worse. Even people from Albany, New York look down on people from New York City, and rightfully so, it's like how I as a real Texan feel about mutts from Houston.



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