Ironic. In cities with no nighttime transit, first and last shift bus and tram and train drivers cannot commute to their work by mass transit (unless the company launches a pickup bus service for them)
That's not ironic.
>>2023765There used to be such a service more than 50 years ago. Bus and tram drivers used to live in designated houses so the night shift driver only had three or four stops.
Most of the people who keep NYC running get around by car. That should drive home (ha ha) an important point about the mass transit system, but that point is lost on dullard yimbys who seem to think that everyone who isn't a 25-35 year old libertarian should just die or disappear or something.
The great thing about NYC is that the doctors and bankers and millionaires often ride the subway like everyone else. I used to walk to the train with my managing director when I worked in finance.
>>2023788Easy to do when the subway lines go in a straight line between the richest areas and the bank headquarters. How many school teachers did you walk to the train with?
>>2023788>The great thing about NYC is that the doctors and bankers and millionaires often ride the subway like everyone else.Wow!!
>>2023795What an incredibly stupid post.
>>2023846Such a well reasoned response, you've convinced me, democracy sucks!
>>2023795Guess that disproves your claim that “the people who run NYC get around by car” so now you’re moving the goalpost again. Lolz
>>2023902When I say "run NYC" I'm referring to the people who keep the city's essential functions and services running, not the bankers in the smoke filled rooms making shady deals, though I can see how you could have gotten confused about my meaning
>>2023795The ones riding to Wall Street are the low-level flunkies that don't have any money or power. Just because you wear a shirt and tie doesn't mean you're some sort of high-roller. It's like how people both believe the quote "A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars, it’s where the rich use public transportation" and don't have any idea where it even comes from.
>>2023909So much hyperbolic strawgrasp in this post it reads like comedy. Lol.
>>2023765In my city, there are night buses, but I usually use one of the carsharing providers as they are 3 times as fast and not that expensive.Also the Czech railways give out a small bonus for every shift starting before 6:00, so that usually covers the cost.
>>2023765I'll do you one better.In my city, they wanted to reduce the amount of money spent on overtime for transit operators.The biggest source of overtime, was not getting operators back to their clock-out point on time for the shift end. Like, a bus driver behind on their schedule, and arriving late at the depot. Or a subway operator being on the opposite end of the city, and needing to get back to where they parked their car.The transit agency decided the best way to address this was... setting drop-dead deadlines for operators to stop driving the route and return to clock-out. For buses, this meant "kick everyone off the bus, go to depot NOW." For subways, this either meant, "kick everyone off the train, turn it back into the direction of the operator's clock out point," or, "stop the train, wait for an opposite direction train, swap the crews."Where this intersects with nighttime transit, is that nighttime is where a lot of those shift change problems are happening. The number of vehicles being operated is tapering down, so you need operators to wrap up on time. But, also, the number of vehicles being operated is going down, so any kind of disruption to the schedule means it will be as much as 30 minutes until the next scheduled vehicle.Overnight transit was hellish before I just started biking literally everywhere, no matter the distance.
The bus operator needs to run buses to/from the route start/end to depot, and workers (not just the drivers) take these buses to go to and from work. It's a bus only for bus drivers
