Canada and Australia will have it before us it's sad I wish we could have it so badly imagine how cool america would have been if Henry Ford never existed
>>2024771>Canada and Australia will have it before uslol lmao
Trains are woke, why would the god loving republic of texas allow that kind of socialism?
>>2024771Why the fuck does someone in Houston want to get on a train and go to Dallas?The reason rail is a lost cause: It can't take you anywhere but to the station.
>>2024790>It can't take you anywhere but to the station.Not with that attitude. Both cities used to have a streetcar network and Dallas started then stopped to build it back up.So: The train takes you to another train (tram).
>>2024790Yeah what are these idiots thinking, letting people take a trip to another city 200 miles away in 2 hours.
>>2025540Use your brain and give some reasons why people would want to use this.Tourism? Can't carry their luggage around outside the station, so they rent a car.Work? No one is commuting this distance for work. If they do it occasionally, they still rent a car to go from the station to their office.Family visits? They get picked up from the station by a family member in a car.This is literally air travel but slower.Is that the point? To sacrifice speed for lower cost?Air travel is cheap enough for most people as it is, and for those extra broke ones, they can take a bus.
>>2025563>This is literally air travel but slower.It's not if you factor in checkin, checkout and traveling to and from airports.
>>2025565>Ignoring the time of traveling to and from the train stationsUnless your destination is in a 1 mile radius of the train station, it's almost certainly guaranteed to balance out.
>>2025565>Check in15 minutes of getting a tag printed for your bag and walking through security >Check outNo such thing. When the plane lands you grab your things and GTFO. They don't care what you do after you land.>Traveling to and from airportsYou mean literally the same thing as traveling to and from train stations?
>>202556815minutes is highly optimistic, you don't just grab your things because you have to wait for it to show up, the time from your airplane seat to your taxi seat involves waiting for other people, walking, etc...Train stations can also be in the city center with central metro access. That's the norm in Europe and Asia.
>>2025571The Dallas/Fort Worth area is 87 kilometers across. You aren't getting people efficiently across that much area with public transit.This might work in your picturesque Euro village, but in the USA, and ESPECIALLY in Texas of all places, this is a retarded fantasy.
If Australia and Canada build it, that will generate a lot of domain knowledge and expertise they can transfer here. But USA is building high speed rail right now anyway.
>>2025576The size of the entire metro area is totally irrelevant, you just need a few dense pockets therein (although having sparsely populated areas outside those pockets still helps, just not as much). And Houston is constantly building an assload of new apartments.Also, Houston light rail gets good ridership because they build so much new housing around the transit stations. And they’re always building more.
>>2024790This is such a hilariously stupid post I laughed out loud
>>2025581Make your point or shut your cocksucker, adults are talking.
>>2025581It's a fucking 3.5 hour drive and you will almost certainly need a car when you get to either end. It's stupid. Just drive it.
>>2025597Nah Houston and Dallas both have light rail systems (with big recent expansions) and tons of urban infill so lots to see and do within walking distance of the stations.No need to force everyone into a car, even if that’s your wet dream.
>>2025657>Nah Houston and Dallas both have light rail systems Just adding to the total transit time and inconvenience.>and tons of urban infillNo one's traveling between Dallas and Houston to visit the urban infill
The transformation in Dallas is pretty incredible desu. Lots more on the way.
>>2025661Look how wide the highway is now compared to then. Also, check out those huge parking decks.
>>2025657>force everyone into a carYet you want to force everyone into trains, ironic.
What happens to all the small communities along the route if everyone starts taking the train?They get some economic benefit from having traffic go through their towns, but trains won't stop.I suspect the urbanist foamers infesting this board think they should just move to the city.
>>2025661blah blah blah chang! chang blah blah blah!anyway all I see is a 4 lane becoming a 10 lane, and a 100 car parking lot becoming a 1000 car parking garageurbanists btfo
>>2025666Oh Dickens, you know that different kinds of trains can use the same tracks right?An express train can drive through a small town while the regional train waits at the station, with proper scheduling this can happen without any delay.This already works in the whole of the developed world except in North America. Including in China which mogs the US both in land area, population and the variation in urban development.
>>2025568>No such thing. When the plane lands you grab your things and GTFO. They don't care what you do after you land.>What is 10-15 minutes taxiing to your gate>10-15 minutes to deplane>if youre not at a jetway 10-15 minutes waiting for the air-stairs and bus>5-10 minute walk to the baggage carousel>15-30 minutes waiting for the brownoids fucking with your luggage to actually put it on the carouselNigger have you never actually flown on an aero-plane or are you just pretending to be retarded because youre starved for attention
>>2025684Double nigger, have you ever flown any time OTHER than peak holidays?
>>2025684Also>aeroplaneYuro opinion discarded, your subcontinent is irrelevant.
>>2025691>doesnt recognize the deliberate, hyphenated 'aero-plane' as the obvious joke kys triple nigger
>>2025684>>2025693>"hyphenated">"deliberate"ESL detected, normal people don't use such fancy words in normal speech, did you use google translate?
>>2025694>using proper english = ESL nowThe absolute stateAlso thanks for confirming you're a faggot who's desperate for attention; do consider committing oxygen-not-reach lungs at your earliest (in)conveience.
>>2025695>semicolonWell la di da Mr. College Boy, did you learn that at the Poo University of Poo? Real (white) americans eschew such pomposity.
>>2025694>>2025697imagine doubling-down on retard pride.
>>2025661Incredible to see so many new apartments, offices, retail, nightlife, restaurants parks, etc.Perfect complement to a high-speed rail station.
Texas republicans did everything in their power to kill this project because the GOP is controlled by Big Oil.
>>2025832this is an american board, we read while moving our lips here boy, if u dont like it u can go back to the venezuela, and take the bartender with you!
>>2025540there is nowhere near enough passenger demand for a route like this to be viableIt would be busy at the holidays and when the two city’s sportsball teams played each other. That’s it. At other times of the year there’s very little reason for a resident of Dallas to visit Houston and vice versa. Maybe once as a novelty. Otherwise why? To visit the same exact chain stores and restaurants you have at home? Unless the route connects to a wider network there just won’t be demand.
>>2025834There's no high speed rail station there, Ranjeep
>>2025839Bot post
>>2025693Couldn't even address the point, just got into a semantic argument with some other anon instead.
>>2025839Undeniable fact. Especially in Texas oil country.
>>2025874Most of the state is oil country, and Texans as a whole don't give a fuck about riding trains, Yuro.
You rail foamers got curb stomped, now stay the fuck down. Texans don't want high speed rail. It's not some fucking oil company conspiracy, we don't want to ride a fucking train to another city. The only place in the state that passenger rail is viable are small intra-city lines for the fifth columnists living within the largest cities. Texans have a very strong car culture and they won't replace it with fucking trains.Give up you urbanist cancerous filth and project your utopian fantasies elsewhere.
>>2025884Foamers aren't the ones pushing for it
At one point, Texas Republicans filed a lawsuit trying to claim Texas Central wasn’t technically a train. They lost, of course, but it goes to show you the absurd lows that Republicans will stoop to fight rail. That’s what happens when all your funding comes from oil companies.
>It's the auto makers>It's the Republicans>It's Big Oil>It's the NIMBYs>It's Southwest Airlines>It's ___________At some point you have to accept HSR in America is not widely supported and not practical. The unacceptable cost overruns of CAHSR have damaged the viability of high speed intercity rail more than any of your scapegoats have.
>>2025895Eh, no one in this thread mentioned those other causes, you’re just making up scapegoats. It’s a fact that Texas Republicans do everything in their power to fight Texas Central. Sorry it makes you so butthurt to point out that fact.
>>2025896>Eh, no one in this thread mentioned those other causes, you’re just making up scapegoats.Those are the scapegoats I remember from previous Texas HSR threads. Sorry it makes you so butthurt to point out that fact.
>>2025896Get your bingo card because all of those except Southwest and NIMBYs have been named in this thread, jackass.