I want to get a secondary bike for doing errands, shopping etc around the town. I want something relatively small (don't have much space in the bike storage), with mudguards and a rack, maybe a basket too. I found this selling for 80€. Would it be worth it, and would it work for my use? Anything that would need an upgrade right away to turn it into a nice bike? Also, if I wanted to turn it into a dropbar (to make it more narrow for storage), how much money would that take approximately?
Also, no pictures of drivetrain in the ad.
stop wasting your money on junk
fuck off
>>2025448>>2025449That bad?
>>2025440I quite like those old 700c steel hybrids They usually have a stable ride and work well with loads. It's nice that it has midfork bosses. That could actually make a decent cheap touring bike. You're also I think getting decent shimano hubs, and a cassette. Although the chance of them being pitted is pretty high. Would make a great errand bike. As for the price, it's fair if the bike is actually in good condition, but being relatively low spec (alivio) the value as a project and the value parted out is approaching zero. Take a chain tool if you go to buy it and if the chain is stretched, if the headset has play, if the wheels are out of true, if the bearings feel rough, and if the tires have cracks, then massively lowball with cash under their nose or dip. I don't think it makes sense to convert to drop bars because the frame is not high spec enough and I really don't see how making the bars ~10cm narrower would even make it much easier to store. And the purpose of the bike is that it rides like a tank, and is stable, which drop bars do not really synergise with. You could even just cut the flat bars down. It wouldn't be hard to convert to drops though, canti brakes are compatible with drop bar brake levers and you'd solve the shifting with a clamp on friction stem shifter or dts which are cheap/free parts bin takeoffs. The thing i don't like about it is the brake/shifters are integrated which makes setting up a basket harder, and they take up more space on the bars, although you can always cut the shifter part off with a hacksaw and get different shifters. The stem is also dangerously over extended although that is not hard to fix. Also the thing that actually makes a bike easy to store is being light, that bike isn't gonna be light and you're planning on adding shit to it to make it worse.
>>2025440also that style of cantis are hard to setup but they work really well once they are setup properly, and the cheap ones like that are functionally identical to the higher spec XT etc versions. That style of rear cable stop however, is awful.
>>2025462Thanks for the tips anon. The idea about drop bars is saving horizontal space. The bike would be stored vertically next to a road bike in a very cramped space, so shorter handlebars help. I started by looking at new budget trekking bikes, but the have really wide handlebars.I guess the best course of action is going to be trying it out, I am aware the possibility of this being a money/time pit is high. I liked the frame and the rigid fork, they are rare here outside roadbikes.
>>2025465I don't think it's gonna be a money pit if you have access to a used market or a co-op or whatever and you're practical, it's just that low end bikes aren't worth anything if they're projects. I always try to part out a bike in my head and pay less than the total value of that, and that bike is not worth 80 euro parted out, not even close. But yeah... why not just move the grips/ controls in, and cut the bars down with a hacksaw alla tite gapz fixie bros? The grips will slide off if you stick a flathead under them and spray some isopropyl alcohol in and you can cut the bars using a hose clamp as a guide and just a regular hacksaw blade.
>>2025465Cut the bars first. Keep the bar ends. Much cheaper and everything will work fine.
>>2025440>don't have much space baskets are really bad for this>dropbaralso bad for stacking, an 18 to 20" wide flat bar is better.>upgrade right away to turn it into a nice bikenothing that comes to mind reallya couple of things to note about Shimano ALIVIO group set,if unused for quite some time the grease in the shifters may gum up and keep the ratchet and pawl from working properly on up shifts.the shifter cant really be fully disassembled so best is to spray a little bit of solvent in then work the shifter a bunch of times till the pawls can move freely.then getting some lubrication back into the mechanism as best you can.you may have a compact crank set, the large chain ring is only 42 teeth so there is some tendency to wear out quickly, its not so bad with the steel chain rings however.and also the 7 speed free hub body that is only 28 mm long so can not fit 8 speed cassettes.>would it work for my use?yes, you just have to get creative about how you mount things to the frame.and git good and climbing on the bike while it weighs an extra 20 to 50 kg.btw the tires look 38 mm wide so if your really loading the bike up you need to keep them at 50 to 55 psi
>>2025440Urban attack bike. That seems expensive. Drop bar conversion isn't worth it although I done it myself on another bike
>>2025462>I don't think it makes sense to convert to drop barsConverting a 700c hybrid to drops usually sucks. The top tube is always too long for a comfy fit, otherwise you compromise handling with a shorty stem
>>2025448This right here OP.A brand new Decathlon city/trekking bike runs you around 500€. Why would you waste 80€ on junk, take hours to clean, repair, and maintain the old rust bucket (your time is also worth something) and buy spares like new tires, brakes and such only to have a shitty old bike.Its just not worth it honestly.
>>2025643what are your hobbies anon? how do you spend your free time?
>>2025651My hobbies are making money and trading stocks. Also competitive cycling and climbing.
>>2025659you seem like a real faggot
>>2025663We are on a niche board of an irelevant imageboard talking about shifters and frame materials.We are all faggots around here anon.
>>2025643This but also he said he already has a bike
Anons, your comments made me realize this is a trash heap and I would spend too much time working on it without a real possibility to get something that would be worth it. I will most likely get a new foldable Graziella clone with solid parts (sturmey archer 5 gear) for 500 and be done with this.
>>2025458these people are retards who don't ride a bike.That's a great frame and you have EZ fire thumbies instead of twist shifters.If it shifts and doesn't skip and rolls true then buy it. If it doesn't don't buy it. With cheap bikes they have to either be 20 bucks or shift/be maintained well.For reasons I don't want to get into you won't want dropbars on that bike. It will cost you too much for the additions, the geometry won't be right and you'll just have a heavy slow cruiser with drops.If you are interested in getting better at BIKE then get it. You can learn all the maintenance necessary and when you inevitably buy a 500 or 1000 dollar bike next you'll take great care of it and be able to save thousands on 'tune-ups'. If you want a cheap dropbar bike that will roll right out of the box buy one from Decathalon or the Ozark Trail gravel bike for $250 usd at Wal Mart.I am against the online viewpoint that LBS's are the only way and everything from a sporting goods store sucks. More than anything BSO is the dumbest bike shop cope ever.
>>2025934I have a modern carbon road bike, so the purpose of this was supposed to be just a casual city-riding bike which wouldn't get stolen or broken if left unattended while shopping. The drop bars were an idea to save space in storage where it would be hung vertically by the front wheel. I think I got carried away with all the cool conversions and restorations of old steel bikes you see here, hoping I found a good opportunity. As I wrote, I am moving on with getting a good and robust foldable (to save space) with an integrated gear hub (to save time on maintenance). So now I'll continue to fuck about with the roadie for fun and have a no-frills, but dependable city crawler for npc tasks.
>>2025946Fair enough, have fun with your new bike. I'm not a fan of folders but I'm 193cm and I'd look like a fucking circus bear.
>>2025949Thanks, Anon. I find the Graziella format with 20 inch wheels looking way beefier than the standard Brompton style folder, but I can imagine at 193cm things can get goofy.
>>2025440This isn't a bad idea, but the price/quality ratio isn't there.
>>2025440You should buy it. this post is just signaling intention based on your intuition which is seeing the obvious value. I'd put 5000km/5 years on that.
>>2025643I used to have a Hoprider 520. It was decent but the Dawes Discovery 301 that I bought for £80 and fixed up blew it out of the water. Lighter, better geometry, more mounting points, better gearing, didn't have pointless cheap shitty front suspension
>making a 4chan thread for an 80 EUR bike>I'm about to buy a 4000 USD gazelle as my first bike because I liked the vibesI'm very dumb with money, but sometimes I think euros are just poor.
>>2027653You're dumb with your daddy's money-be honest.
>>2025440>>2025462Also a big fan of these 90s 700c hybrids, extremely adaptable platforms.Many were built with quality steel tubing which makes them comfy, durable and light enough for most riders. As anon said they can make for decent tourers, but also excel as commuters, general utility bikes and of course they were the original gravel bikes, in the sense that they were somewhere between a road bike and an mtb. Also they are cheap, although the best ones are hard to find as they failed to really carve out a sustainable niche when the 26'' mtb was so dominant and so fewer were made. I have one and it's so much fun to ride, quick enough on tarmac and a hoot on all but the most technical of trails.I'll post a few of my favourites below.
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ITT: how to take a $500 hybrid and make it a $3000 meme bike without a material change in performancelook at the build choices and marvel at the sheer unbridled hipsterism, why bother with a black $95 shimano crankset that you can buy in any supermarket when you can get a chrome plated $250 microbrand (still made in the far east) crankset that does the same thing but has to be ordered from a stoner on etsy? why bother with $100/pair WTBs that last forever when you can buy $200/pair ultradynamicos with sidewalls that tear themselves open when you breathe too hard?these are the same people calling you a consoomer rube for having di2 or dick breaks that just came with the bike at OEM bulk prices, while they're spending inordinate amounts of energy hipstermaxxing their builds to make sure to stack up the most upgrade points using 50 year old standards
>>2027691People will often want their dream bike of their youth. Thats why there are so many boomers in vettes. They couldnt afford one in 1978. Oh and post bike.I like his builds>>2027685
>>2027675Oh it's a wheeler. Any idea from which country these frames are from? I actually bought one.
>>2028019WHEELER was founded in 1972 by CH Yang, one of the future pioneers of the Taiwanese bicycle industry, without any prior knowledge of the industry or technology. Mr. Yang, a visionary who was then working in advertising, realized that the bicycle industry was about to boom after a Japanese cooperation partner asked him about bicycle production in Taiwan and founded WHEELER in response.
>>2028057Neat. I've got a 6100 (?) one. Currently has 23mm tires. I used a 3mm and 4mm hex key to measure the tire clearance and the chain stay has about 3.5mm clearance left (on each side of the wheel). You think it can fit 25mm tires?
