Is London the most /n/ city in the world?
>>2027780New York is more /n/, but we are all mogged by Bus, Japan :-o
>>2027780I don't know what the most /n/ city is, but I would expect it to have>flat geography, for cycling>walkable design>high speed rail for intercity connections>great train/tram/monorail/subway layouts for intracity travel>access to major international airport hub by multiple types of public transport>lack of uhh, antisocial people that make use of public transport intolerable
>>2027793>>lack of uhh, antisocial people that make use of public transport intolerable
>>2027780No, because Tokyo exists.But it is a candidate for most /n/ city in Europe, along with Paris, Berlin, Moscow and Amsterdam.
>>2027793cycling and walking aren't transportation.hong kong is an /n/ city:>well used subways/commuter rail, trams, buses, and ferries to get around the islands>hsr to mainland>major airport>major port>stupid ass cable car>funicularonly thing it's missing really is a substantial freight rail network. but of course that's unnecessary when the boats can just go slightly further upstream to a guangdong port
>>2027780Lol, any small town in china moggs all of the western cities.
>>2027820>cycling and walking aren't transportation.
>>2027780no because they've been proposing a tube line for southeast london for about 120 years now and still have not built anything except for a glorified driverless tram to lewisham
>>2027780Yes, because the Elizabeth Line is kino and has sovl.
>>2027833They really don't. Most provincial cities do not have a metro system and a fairly average bus system by European standards.If you're walking anywhere then be prepared to walk alongside huge multi-lane avenues that stretch in a straight line for miles.If you're cycling then you will be restricted to a "dedicated" lane that you have to share with non-road-legal EVs, electric rickshaws and straying pedestrians.Access to amenities is okay but depending on where you live you are basically restricted to whatever's 5 minutes away from you since walking will not be a pleasant experience.It is walkable on the sub-district level, but it's hard to say for a district or a city as a whole. The urban core of a major city like Shanghai is fine but westerners seem to think everyone in China lives in places like that when they're more likely to live in a suburban district of a city like Shijiazhuang.
>>2027909it's insane how big chinese cities get without a metro or any sort of local rail system. of course it's hard to get a true population number for said cities when the 'city' has a land area the size of belgium but they're still quite big
>>2027780I'd say Moscow is more /n/ than London. Bigger, more organized, doesn't have weird vestiges of early /n/-isation like formerly competing subway lines duct taped into something resembling a coherent metro system, or double decker buses because medieval streets are too small for proper transport.Let's put it like this- in Moscow, more people associate areas with metro stations they are served by than with the actual district names, even people who never ride the metro. Is that the case in London? From what I've heard, that isn't the case.
>>2027922the 'traditional' London way of referring to a place would be by TfL fare zones
Evidently Zurich is the most /n/ city>sizeable tram network with very high frequency >huge S-Bahn Network>various trolleybus lines>two funiculars>one rack railway >interurban tram line which runs into the city on the regular tram tracks but skipping minor stops>steamships running on the lake during summer It's not even close, I mean are other cities even trying? >>2027922Moscow lost the title when they closed down the trolleybuses.
>>2027922>doesn't have weird vestiges of early /n/-isation like formerly competing subway lines duct taped into something resembling a coherent metro system, or double decker buses because medieval streets are too small for proper transport.those are SOUL, and hence vital for a city to be the most /n/
>>2027922Aren't the metro stations just named for the area though? 14th Street - Union Square is not why 14th Street is called 14th Street or why Union Square is Union Square
>>2027922>or double decker busesDouble decker buses are peak aesthetic and you know it.
>>2027964Incorrect!
>>2027920It would be more accurate to call them prefectures since their large area is directly the result of city governments taking over the governance of its prefecture.
>>2027909>Shijiazhuang>random provinical city nobody has heard of >12 million peoplehow do they have so many people.
>>2028113Well you see, when a man and a woman get together and do this thing in bed then nine months later a baby is born
>>2027983i want to see this topple over and spontaneously combust
>>2028113chinese administrative magic. Most chinese cities have a land area comparable to a small country, and all the towns and cities within are counted as one. >>2027920One of the reason they been building metros like crazy because the cities can't run service on national rail networks. Most chinese cities are a product of recent real estate developments anyway, that's why they are all the same checkerboard pattern.
>>2028113China used to have an administrative unit called prefectures which were a level above counties and cities. Most prefectures have now been converted into prefecture-level cities in which they are governed by their largest city, creating cities with borders spanning well beyond their original namesake.
>>2028120>One of the reason they been building metros like crazy because the cities can't run service on national rail networks.That's probably the biggest reason, but railways were introduced relatively late so suburban rail never really managed to take off before competitors like trams, cars, and metros came along to fill in the commuter niche.>Most chinese cities are a product of recent real estate developments anyway, that's why they are all the same checkerboard pattern.Although you're right in the first part, the Chinese have always had a tendency to build their cities in a grid pattern.
>>2028149>GIANT WILD GOOSE PAGODAFUCKING MAD MEN
>>2028149they actually had suburban services to smaller stations, but since they built the HSR, those services have all been canceled.
>>2027922>MoscowUnironically too many stroads.
>>2028222They're still doing the underpass-below-stroads thing which is just abhorrent tbqhwy
>>2028118What would combust? They're electric.
>>2028257the passengers, of course
The Line©™ is going to mog traditional cities so much it's unreal.
