Clearly she cares more about power than about American liveshttps://time.com/7014400/nasa-decision-stranded-astronauts-february-home-date/
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“NASA has worked very hard with Boeing to reach this decision,” Nelson said. “The decision is a result of a commitment to safety.”The ruling rested on what NASA calls a flight readiness review (FRR). As agency brass explained at an Aug. 14 news conference, FRR’s are typically held before launch, when officials gather for a final go or no-go on the planned mission.“We bring in representatives from all of the related centers, the technical authorities, the NASA engineering, and safety center flight operations,” explained Ken Bowersox, a former astronaut and an associate administrator for NASA’s space operations mission directorate. “We listen to the status of the mission, go through some special topics, and then we poll everybody at the end on whether or not they think we're ready to undertake the mission.”On one occasion, that panel’s decision led to disaster. The FRR for the final mission of the space shuttle Challenger was held on Jan. 15, 1986, and the ship was cleared to launch. Thirteen days later, on Jan. 28, that liftoff took place, ending in a fuel tank explosion and the death of all seven crew members just 73 seconds after the ship left the pad. That tragedy, followed by the breakup of the shuttle Columbia and a similar loss of all hands on Feb. 1, 2003, left NASA much more risk-averse than it had been before.Read More: The Polaris Dawn Mission Opens a New Chapter in Private Space Flight“We did not have the governance structure that we have today with technical authorities,” said Russ DeLoach, chief of NASA safety and mission assurance, during the earlier press conference. “So at that time, the program managers pretty much had near-unilateral decision making. And so if there were views that maybe a path we were taking was not correct, there was really no strong additional authority to step in and say, ‘Wait a minute.’”
That additional authority exists today, in the form of FRRs that take place mid-mission—though they often go by a different name: a mission risk acceptance forum. Whatever they’re called, the official panels are intended to bring the scrutiny of an FRR to bear at any point between the time a crew leaves the ground and the time they return to Earth. For the past several weeks, NASA has been under the gun to make such a decision about the hobbled Starliner—and to do it fast. The spacecraft’s batteries have a limited lifespan, and if the ship was not deemed fit to carry the crew home, it would have to fly back empty soon.The FRR that resulted in the decision not to bring Wilmore and Williams home on the Boeing Starliner spacecraft was held on Aug. 23, and Nelson was very much in the loop. If there are dissenting opinions during the review, the decision goes first to Jim Free, NASA associate administrator. After him, Nelson could step in, and clearly he did.Ahead of the decision being finalized, it was still possible that NASA could surprise the public—not to mention Wilmore and Williams—and announce that the stranded astronauts would be flying their dodgy Starliner home. But that was never likely. NASA’s institutional sorrow runs deep—back far before the Challenger and Columbia disasters, to the Jan. 27, 1967, launch pad fire that claimed the lives of astronauts Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee, when they were conducting a dress rehearsal for the launch of their Apollo 1 spacecraft. Shortly after that tragedy, legendary flight director Gene Kranz gathered the grieving NASA staffers together for a grim but bracing post-mortem.Read More: Fly Me to the Moon Is a Lighthearted Conspiracy Romp. But It Speaks to a Spiritual Sickness
“From this day forward, flight control will be known by two words: Tough and competent,” Kranz said, chalking the words on a blackboard. “Tough means we are forever accountable for what we do or what we fail to do. We will never again compromise our responsibilities. Competent means we will never take anything for granted. Mission Control will be perfect. When you leave this meeting today you will go to your office and the first thing you will do there is to write ‘tough and competent’ on your blackboards. It will never be erased. Each day when you enter the room, these words will remind you of the price paid by Grissom, White, and Chaffee. These words are the price of admission to the ranks of Mission Control.”
That price still stands. NASA could have decided to spare Boeing the embarrassment of flying their Starliner home empty, and Wilmore and Williams the ordeal of spending six more months in space, but that’s not the route the agency chose. Astronaut lives are on the line. A chastened NASA chose not to risk them again.More Must-Reads from TIMEBreaking Down the 2024 Election CalendarHeman Bekele Is TIME’s 2024 Kid of the YearThe Reintroduction of Kamala HarrisWhat a $129 Frying Pan Says About America’s Eating HabitsA Battle Over Fertility Law in ChinaThe 1 Heart-Health Habit You Should Start When You’re YoungCuddling Might Help You Get Better SleepThe 50 Best Romance Novels to Read Right NowWrite to Jeffrey Kluger at jeffrey.kluger@time.comHomeU.S.PoliticsWorldHealthBusinessTechPersonal Finance by TIME StampedShopping by TIME StampedFuture of Work by CharterEntertainmentIdeasScienceHistorySportsMagazineThe TIME VaultTIME For KidsTIMECO2CouponsTIME EdgeVideoMastheadNewslettersSubscribeDigital MagazineGive a GiftShop the TIME StoreCareersModern Slavery StatementPress RoomTIME StudiosU.S. & Canada Customer CareGlobal Help CenterContact the EditorsReprints and PermissionsSite MapMedia KitSupplied Partner ContentAbout Us© 2024 TIME USA, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service, Privacy Policy (Your Privacy Rights) and Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information.TIME may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Offers may be subject to change without notice.
>>1334040That is the laziest copy-paste possible. Judging by the thread title, that's not surprising: you're clearly an idiot.
>>1334066>paste the thread>no not like that reeeeeeeeeeee
While i do think she is retarded, i dont think she has shit to do with space.
>>1334066They're a mentally deficient troll who compulsively lies about everything. You're better off not engaging and just ignoring their posts.
>>1334081she does, in a way. The Space Council is a cabinet-level agency and VP Harris is the chair person right now.Boeing's contracts go back to Obama though. So the party is to blame but not Harris directly.
>>1334081The National Space Council (NSpC) is the White House policy council responsible for ensuring the United States capitalizes on the rich opportunities presented by our nation’s space activities. Under the leadership of its chair, Vice President Kamala Harris, the NSpC advises and assists the President on the development and implementation of space policy and strategy and is comprised of Cabinet-level Secretaries and other senior executive branch officials.https://www.whitehouse.gov/spacecouncil/she is the space czar
>>1334084lol you are one seething tranny
>>1334033thanks hobama
>>1334081she is literally the top person in charge of NASA
>>1334503There's nothing anybody can say that will penetrate your 12" thick layer of schizophrenia to explain to you why the executive head of a government agency isn't at fault for an accidental mechanical failure in a fuel line.
>>1334084His goal is to shitpost so much in every thread the board becomes unusable. He frequently succeeds at that.
>>1334541buck stops with her, retardo. she is the boss>>1334543top kek
>>1334543>>1334541>>1334081>nothing is ever harris's fault, she isn't in charge of anything and has no power, reeeeeee
>>1334094>>1334126>>1334503>>1334677Because it certainly can't be Boeing's fault.Am I right bros ;)
>strandedStranded would imply that they are stuck up there with no way to return. That isn't true. If they had to evacuate the station they could, and they have a ride home. They have plenty of food and water on station for extra crew. The station keeps an extra supply for everyone on board at all times, and the station just got resupplied by a Cygnus cargo spacecraft which I'm sure sent extra stuff too. They are astronauts who were supply to fly an 8 day mission that's turned into a nearly 9 month long stay. There are many examples of missions getting extended for many reasons. I'm sure they are more than happy to be there. Yes, Boeing fucked up. Boeings rot hasn't spared their space division and I hope NASA decides not to award them any more contracts. The plus side is that NASA's contract for the Starliner spacecraft was a fixed price contract cause NASA got tired of having to foot the bill for Boeings fuck ups and delays with the old traditional cost plus contracts they used to always do. This means Boeing is having to foot the bill for their fuck ups because the money NASA gave them for Starliner has already been used. After Starliner comes home, it very well might not fly again since Boeing has shown itself to be incompetent yet again. Its unfortunate because it's always good to have backup options if something was to go wrong with Spacex'x Dragon capsule but it is what it is.
>>1334579In that case, it's time to hold Trump accountable for Operation Warp Speed.
>>1334745Pretty much this. Boeing is paying for two extra astronauts up in space, we get more science/work done, everyone wins. Everyone wins except for seething trolls who want to pretend this is a bad thing because they don't have a lot of ammo to attack democrats with.
>>1334795>Hey man we paid billions of dollars for something and dont get that thing but actually this is cool and fine and we shouldn't worry about thisBoeing isn't sending their best.
>>1334765>Warp SpeedZefram Cochrane is responsible for warp propulsion (he's named after test pilot - and friend of Chuck Yeager - Jacqueline Cochrane).Don Old can only travel as fast as the golf cart he's in. He spends more time in that method of transport than his 757 Trump Farce One or what he's currently using, Epstein's Gulfstream: the Lolita Express.And the reason why Trump's reduced to riding the Lolita Express: Trump Farce One's broken down. Which company made his 757? Boeing.The jokes just write themselves. No wonder Kamala's laughing: and not only all the way to the White House.
>>1334745>Stranded would imply that they are stuck up there with no way to return. That isn't trueHow are they going to return? Nobody's actually figured this out yet
>>1334745So you are saying they started out as stranded but now they are not because Boeing is paying for it?
>>1334850I bet they're trying to pay off the Russians to fetch them in a cargo capsule
>>1334744harris is the one who picked out the contractor, retard. she is in charge of NASA >>1334765I thought they were the biden vaxes?
>>1334887Harris wasn't even a national politician when they picked the contractor.
>>1334745>they aren't stranded, they are just stuck there for 9 months of an 8 day mission. its not harris's fault even though she is literally in charge of nasa>>1334795>>1334805top kek samefags
>>1334839holy shit crackhead bot has gone full chatgpt>>1334850>>1334851good posts
>>1334889harris is literally in charge of NASA. the buck stops with her. she fucked up the border and fucked up NASA
lot of cope itt
The vice president, in their capacity as chair of the National Space Council, neither controls NASA nor their private sector contractors. The council has no authority, unilateral or otherwise, over the day-to-day operations of NASA. It strictly serves an advisory role regarding space policy.
>>1334887Not at all. Trump was also president when all of the lockdowns occurred.
>>1334943harris is literally the chief government official in charge of space, cope
If things got 'really bad', there's always SLS Block 2 Crew and Orion. Send up the latter with the former. I'm sure the latter's manufacturer would love to demonstrate the abilities of Orion post-Artemis-1, certainly in being the solution to a certain problem. Which company makes Orion? Lockheed Martin. Everything resolved except for two now having problems. Who? Boeing no longer being awarded contracts which Lockheed Martin gets. The other /news/? Well, you can guess who.
