Harris is going to get 13 million votes less than in 2020, trump will get 2 million less.
Trump more or less did thee same as 2020.
Dems called china to send the fake china virus so they could rig 2020. democrat governors like cuomo got caught intentionally giving olds coof to kill them to make trump look bad and then trying to hide the evidence when subpoenaed and then for some reason that shit gets ignored because he grabbed a woman's tits. as though grabbing tits is worse than murdering and covering it up. Its like the fag governor of NJ putting his gay boyfriend in charge of homeland security and then getting away with it by saying he was gay and resigning, as though being a fag was a bigger issue than putting his unqualified lover in charge of homeland security
The combination of mail in ballots and "covid restrictions" on election watchers allowed dems to rig the 2020 election. maybe the GOP was even in on it. it was weird that only super blue counties got fortified and those ballots were basically only marked for biden and the down ballot was left blank.
Now this does leave questions as to how the dems are so incompetent. why did ratfuck garland wait until the last minute to try to go after trump? why did harris and brandon do a shitty job on the border and economy and lie about it for years and then pretend to do something in the last 6 months while trying to gaslight people? Why didn't biden step down earlier? Dems 100% obviously punted this election otherwise there was no way they would have run harris who literally no one likes and discount sanders who licks extra boots. You would think shapiro or ratfucks like newsome, whitmer, chris murphy or phill murphy (may the cancer return and rob him of all human dignity and leave him in immense pain) would try to run if they thought they had a chance.

>>1360848
Trump's votes don't match up. The idea that 2020 is rigged relies on the fact that Biden got massive surplus votes from the cheating. If Trump truly won over more people than 2020, it should reflect by having his vote count outstrip his 2020 total by a lot (since he should've gotten converted Biden voters). The fact he didn't hints more towards something being wrong with 2024.

>>1360856
No. It hints to all those extra votes in 2020 being fraudulent.

>>1360856
>The idea that 2020 is rigged relies on the fact that Biden got massive surplus votes from the cheating. If Trump truly won over more people than 2020
Your talking about election rigging in 2020 and higher voter turnout in 2024 as if they both needed to happen
Assuming it was rigged in 2020, trump didn't need to win anyone over, all he needed to do was not have democrats rig the 2024 election and then still receive a similar number of votes, which, well, looks like that's exactly what happened

Most of the states that dems got far fewer votes in in 2024 (compared to 2020) are states Kamala still won. California, NJ, NY, etc. Cheating and creating millions more Biden votes in these states in 2020 would have accomplished absolutely nothing. The electoral college ensures it doesn't matter if Biden wins NJ by 16% or 5% -- he would get those 14 electoral votes either way.

>>1360870
2024 should've absolutely had at least as much turnout as 2020, or at least a similar number. The fact not even Trump got more votes should be taken as a sign something could be wrong.

Also the most notable thing is if it was rigged so well in 2020 Trump couldn't prove it in courts after spending massive amounts of time and money, why wouldn't it be rigged now? The fact 2020 had nothing stick and every allegation disproven, while Trump gained the support of billionaires and had allies leak data and specs of voting machines in the meantime, makes him the more likely candidate for interfering.

>>1360898
>The fact 2020 had nothing stick and every allegation disproven,
Actually false. Almost nothing was disproven. Most of the cases ended with the judges saying they just didn't have sufficient evidence

>>1360906
>Most of the cases ended with the judges saying they just didn't have sufficient evidence
Yes anon, this what happens when you don't actually have any evidence that stands up in court. This happens when your statements are full of shit. We'll see if the same happens for 2024 because I doubt dems won't spend at least a little while looking into it.

>>1360908
We will have 4 years to figure out where those 15 million democrat voters vanished to

>>1360909
I mean they're doing a more diligent job than Trump did when he lost in 2020 and immediately filed lawsuits within the week. There's actually self-reflection going on instead of just immediately filing cheating allegations and refusing to concede.

>>1360909
We. Lol. Like you will do literally anything of consequence for the rest of your life.

>>1360866
>Democrats are easily capable of cheating when Republicunts control the government
>Democrats are incapable of cheating when they control the government
retarded thoughts with retarded shills

>>1360917
Democrats are able to cheat when nationwide lockdowns cause dozens of ballots to be sent to every mailbox in the nation and the legal system finds every excuse to refuse to hear any if the evidence of fuckery going on.

Democrats are not able to cheat when there aren't millions of extra ballots floating around and everyone is scrutinizing every step of the election process like hawks after the bullshit that happened four years ago.

Keep trying.

>>1360933
This

If the 2020 vote was rigged by the Democrats, then the 2024 vote was rigged by the Republicans. Disagree, and 2020 wasn't rigged and 2024 was.

>>1360933
This doesn't explain Trump having lower votes. If he did so good people jumped ship from Biden he should be outpacing his 2020 votes, since those would've all been legitimate from a "the dems stole 2020" pov.

>>1360898
retard

>>1360965
Australia and Brazil have compulsory voting. It's impossible for that to be retarded, so the only ones opposed to that idea are retards.

>>1360906
Some of those judges were ones he had appointed and they still weren't buying it.
Anyway, there are still millions of unprocessed 2024 ballots even now. Republicans gotta be sore losers even when they win.

There are still like 9 million ballots to be counted. The final tallies probably won't be known for another week or so.

>>1360981
Assuming these were all cast exclusively for Harris that's still around 8 million democrat voters that vanished

>>1360982
Vax deaths.

>>1360983
>Vax deaths.
1.3 million antivaxxtards, yes. Good

>>1360984
So you're saying you did cheat?

>>1360982
At the current count that would put her at about 3 million voters lost. Though of course realistically ~4 million of those will go to Trump and he'll have wound up gaining several million voters compared to 2020, putting the loss in Dem votes at ~7 million.

No telling how many are flips and how many simply sat out in 2020 and were inspired to show up this cycle, but I have to imagine he ate into her numbers somewhat, and while Republican voters are dutiful and consistent at the polls Democrats are famous for staying home when they don't find their candidate inspiring. This was 2016 part 2, right down to the unpopular woman candidate and the DNC pissing on the wishes of its voter base.

>>1360987
>At the current count that would put her at about 3 million voters lost
I see 69m Harris votes and 81m Biden votes.
That's a delta of 13m, anon. Your napkin math literally only works if every uncounted vote is a Harris vote

>>1360988
That's 12 million, but yeah, I was talking about your hypothetical: if all those remaining 9 million ballots went to her she'd still be well shy of Biden's turnout, but by 3 million rather than 8.

My napkin math estimate of final tallies is around 74 million for her and 77-78 million for Trump, so realistically I expect we'll find Dems lost ~7 million voters while Trump gained 3-4 million. And it looks like voter turnout was around 2% lower this election cycle compared to 2020, or at least that's what a different article (also Newsweek) referenced in OP's submission is reporting.

>>1360986
1.3 million rightard antivaxxtards didn't cheat death, yes

>>1360963
So, are you esl, or just retarded? The extra votes that magically appeared for 2020 were fraudulent. They were extra ballots. An unidentified number of dems acquired extra ballots, filled in the bubble for Joe Biden, and ran those ballots through. They are an accounting fiction.

>>1361001
>Dems give themselves extra ballots even in states they were winning
>But not enough to get the house

Dems not getting the house is the biggest evidence against them cheating in 2020. If they'd cheat so "blatantly" that it's so obvious, why not go for the house too?

Meanwhile, now...

>>1361003
A lot harder to cheat when voting rules weren't changed last minute making it easy for undetected fraud because of a lockdown

>>1361009
Then why not give themselves the house too? Smart enough to rig the election, dumb enough to make it "obvious", but they won't completely secure the house and senate too?

>>1361011
>Then why not give themselves the house too?
Requires a lote more dispersed rigging since these aren't state-wide votes like Senate and president. Would have to be done on the congressional seat-level

>>1360848
paste the article newfriend

>>1361011
One of the biggest pieces of evidence for 2020 fraud was the number of mail in ballots that only voted for president. It was corroborated by people in several different swing states, but was only anecdotal and no one followed up on it.

>>1361011
Thanks for admitting you're incapable of thinking beyond first order effects.

>>1360988
>13m
That's around as much more votes as Trump gained in 2020 compared to 2016, but you never ask questions about that so I guess that's a valid number by your own standards.

>>1361202
Trump didnt have 13m voters vanish into thin air like democrats did

>>1361217
>Trump didnt have 13m voters vanish into thin air like Bide- ACK, fuck, they had different candidate this time, this is not an equivalent situation that can be compared one-to-one so I will just say "democrats", maybe they won't notice

a Trump voter voted for him again, a Biden voter might not liked the new candidate. Kamala scored pretty low in popularity ranking as a VP and had only 3 months to do her campaign.

Do you guys not pause and reflect on how you can simultaneously think the democrats are deepstate overloards who control everything and bumbling idiots who can't tie their sholaces.

Is that not a red flag?

>>1361354
>Is that not a red flag?
>democrat
No, it's a blue one

>>1361354
>you can't be evil, be the boss of the house and retarded
tell that to my aunt. it only takes underlings to be cowards who pretend not to see, for their ship to meet a reality iceberg.
nepotism holds the house of cards together. not german engineering.

>>1361354
It's not mutually exclusive. Powerful people get arrogant, and have a habit of developing this attitude that the law doesn't apply to them...until it does, and then, people like you say they can't possibly be responsible for amateur week fuckups because they aren't idiots; only idiots do do this kind of shit, which is a false assumption because they demonstrably are...if you're left enough to interpret Kamala's word salad, you should be able to grasp something this simple..