>>1364523
Can't wait for trump to clean our our nations homeless problem

What evidence this is a direct consequence of 'dems'? As opposed to the cost of housing? Casual glance through your linked article strongly suggests downstream effects of trump being in office last time.

>this is the goal of socialism and communism, to make people homeless
Show your working. This seems a direct consequence of capitalism. Tho feel free to use logic and evidence to prove otherwise.

>>1364524
Have you tried analysing the variables in play? The hyperinflation inbound - on top of your already rampant inflation - will result in a far greater rate of homelessness.

>>1364526
well you don't get an FDR without a few coolidges and hoovers, dumb motherfuckers have to learn the hard way

>>1364527
FDR was a shitty president who intentionally made the depression last longer
>>1364526
>What evidence this is a direct consequence of 'dems'?
dem president, dem governor, dem state legislature. literally all dems in control, reddit spacing retard
>As opposed to the cost of housing?
the cost of housing problem was literally and intentionally caused by dems, retard
>Casual glance through your linked article strongly suggests downstream effects of trump being in office last time.
nope, retard. the economy was good under trump and then dems intentionally fucked it up because they hate America
>This seems a direct consequence of capitalism. Tho feel free to use logic and evidence to prove otherwise.
biden and murphy are communists and they caused this.
also the inflated housing prices are due to biden causing inflation, section 8 setting a price floor, biden adding 10 million illegals and a record number of "legal" immigrants/TPS, school segregation being banned, racial covenants being banned, biden and obongo making it illegal for schools to suspend or give detentions to minorities and dems letting criminals do crimes with shit like "bail reform" and defund the police
prices are so high due to inflation and people not wanting to live near shitty schools and crime so they need to price out section 8 and minorities

>>1364533
fdr was the only reason trust in banks was restored, without that the depression would've resulted in total collapse. but get your paid talking points off i guess

>>1364539
have you noticed how the retards are emboldened here after Trump's win?

>>1364541
Well to be fair, the country took a vote and Democrats are unpopular.

>>1364541
Imagine having to listen to someone this opinonatedly stupid at a Thanksgiving dinner. Even his fellow magats arr like, "sure Rufus, you always right Rufus"

>>1364542
I know, but even the Gomer Pyles think they have something to add to the conversation

>>1364542
>1.5% difference
This is a close election anon. 48% vs 49% does not mean generally unpopular.

>>1364541
>*fart huffing intensifies*

>>1364533
>dem president, dem governor, dem state legislature. literally all dems in control, reddit spacing retard
Literally not evidence, and lacking showing your working.
From the article: "The rise in New Jersey’s homeless population over the past two years can be attributed to systemic changes, including a lack of affordable housing, rent increases and the end of the eviction moratorium that was in place during the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, housing advocates say."
Remind me. Who was in charge at the start of "the covid 19 pandemic"?

>the cost of housing problem was literally and intentionally caused by dems, retard
Proof?

>nope, retard. the economy was good under trump and then dems intentionally fucked it up because they hate America
Shit on the scale of countries doesn't move quickly. For an effect to trickle to the edges takes time. Most of trump's term was the consequences of what came before him manifesting. Like most of biden's was trump's.

>also the inflated housing prices are due to biden causing inflation, section 8 setting a price floor, biden adding 10 million illegals and a record number of "legal" immigrants/TPS, school segregation being banned, racial covenants being banned, biden and obongo making it illegal for schools to suspend or give detentions to minorities and dems letting criminals do crimes with shit like "bail reform" and defund the police
Demonstrate the 'inflation biden caused'. Take note of inflation that occurs places where biden clearly isn't the cause. Deduct that, because that's happening anyway - as a direct consequence of capitalism, which has a retarded premise of infinite growth in a system that clearly demonstrates limited resources and constantly overinflates and pops as consequence of building on bullshit. What are you left with?

>>1364577
Not sure how section 8 sets a price floor - I'll admit to not being overly conversant but I was thinking it just makes it easier to evict people, not set prices.
Demonstrate how "illegals" are a tax burden: unable to claim benefits, unable to take from the state in any capacity without being deported as consequence. Demonstrate how this pushes house prices upwards.
school segregation being banned is something that pretty much any civilised country enacted f'kin decades ago. I thought it was standard over there since the '70s. Demonstrate how this has adjusted house prices upwards.
Demonstrate how banning racial covenants raises house prices.
Evidence for unlawfulness to discipline students warrented but only if they qualify as a minority?
Explain how increased crime raises house prices. Generally, this lowers prices. You can't price them out because crime really does pay, well if you do it right.

Prices are high due to supply and demand. Demand is higher than supply. Then add into that the greed inherent with capitalism, with the constant desire for more out of the same or less. Then on top of that inflation caused by capitalistic concepts like gouging prices, on top of actually tangible environment modifiers - most sectors are still outta whack from covids, let alone anything since.

>>1364577
>Literally not evidence,
reeee everything bad is trumps fault but anything bad in a blue state/city is also trump's fault and dems didn't do nuffin
> over the past two years can be attributed to systemic changes, including a lack of affordable housing, rent increases and the end of the eviction moratorium
sounds like shit the dems did
> Who was in charge at the start of "the covid 19 pandemic"?
Phil Murphy
>Proof?
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-have-the-highest-and-lowest-rates-of-homelessness/
10 of the 12 states with the highest homeless per capita rates have a dem governor
>Most of trump's term was the consequences of what came before him manifesting. Like most of biden's was trump's.
lol nope. obongo was an all time shitty president. so shit sanders ran on how shit obongo was for the economy. Obongo did a shit job, Trump fixed it, biden fucked it up again
>Demonstrate the 'inflation biden caused'.
he prevented shale companies from drilling and raised oil royalties for the first time in 100 years and printed a ton of new money in spending bills
>as a direct consequence of capitalism,
nah, as a direct consequence of socialism. its why left wing utopias like Zimbabwe and Venezuela always have hyper inflation
everywhere socialism and communism have been tried it has lead to hyperinflation, starvation and the government intentionally mass murdering its citizens.

>>1364578
>Not sure how section 8 sets a price floor - I'll admit to not being overly conversant but I was thinking it just makes it easier to evict people, not set prices.
literally what the fuck are you talking about, retard? section 8 is welfare for rent. its the government giving you a check to pay rent. it sets the price flood so no one will rent for less than what the government pays for section 8
are you even American?
>Demonstrate how "illegals" are a tax burden
A. I said they were taking up housing, not that they are a tax burden.
B. they literally are a tax burden
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/07/nyregion/adams-migrants-destroy-nyc.html
https://www.propublica.org/article/denver-colorado-migrants-unhoused
>unable to claim benefits,
false. they get free shelter and food from places like NYC. their kids get free school and probably free food at school regardless of legal status and they cost more to educate to to being ESL and having a higher rate of special ed
illegals literally use food stamps and shit at a higher rate than Americans
https://cosm.aei.org/key-data-on-federal-benefits-paid-to-illegal-immigrant-households/
>unable to take from the state in any capacity without being deported as consequence.
you legit aren't American. California and NYC both have laws requiring the government give aid to illegals.
>Demonstrate how this pushes house prices upwards.
supply and demand you dickless retard. 10 million more residents but no new houses. plus illegals suppress wages
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216/

>>1364533
>>1364577
>>1364578
>>1364579
>>1364580
All this arguing and yet no one has pointed out homelessness is rising in red states too, but I guess you can't blame illegals, the LGBT community, or democrats for that.

>>1364578
>school segregation being banned is something that pretty much any civilised country enacted f'kin decades ago.
NJ literally has the highest or near the highest rates of school segregation in the US
https://www.realcleareducation.com/articles/2024/05/16/how_states_like_new_jersey_can_finally_end_school_segregation_1032073.html
"At the time of the lawsuit’s filing, more than 60% of Latino students and 66% of Black students attended schools that were at least four-fifths non-White. About half attended schools where students of color accounted for 90% of the student body. This year, according to a Patch investigation, about one in five New Jersey school districts have 80% of students of a single race. As a New Jersey parent, I’m used to reading disturbing headlines like: “How segregated is your NJ school?”"
you can't force bus kids over district lines, per the SCOTUS, so NJ has like nearly 600 school districts to enact segregation. Florida has 67.
https://www.nj.gov/education/doedata/fact.shtml
people don't want their kids going to school with minorities so they price minorities out of their towns
>Demonstrate how banning racial covenants raises house prices.
see above. the high prices and lack of building is to keep blacks out of towns.
NBA superstar Steph curry blocked affordable housing because he didn't want blacks moving in
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/stephen-curry-affordable-housing-controversy-explained-privacy-concern/rmtzqtpdqft2tqabr6afqxw0
so did Dave Chappelle
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/10/entertainment/dave-chappelle-affordable-housing/index.html

>>1364578
>Evidence for unlawfulness to discipline students warrented but only if they qualify as a minority?
its a fucking obongo and brandon policy you fucking retard. you aren't American
https://www.ed.gov/sites/ed/files/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/tvi-student-discipline-resource-202305.pdf
fucking california straight up passed a law saying black kids couldn't be suspended for being willfully defiant
https://content.acsa.org/new-law-effectively-ends-willful-defiance-school-suspensions-for-all-grades/
>Explain how increased crime raises house prices. Generally, this lowers prices. You can't price them out because crime really does pay, well if you do it right.
you are a fucking retard. most violent crime and shoplifting is local. you can't get a mortgage if your job is selling drugs, shop lifting or mugging people. that shit isn't a w-2. they aren't buying that shit in cash, retard
>Prices are high due to supply and demand. Demand is higher than supply.
because brandon let in 10 million illegals
>Then add into that the greed inherent with capitalism,
provide evidence for this claim
> with the constant desire for more out of the same or less.
provide evidence for this claim
>Then on top of that inflation caused by capitalistic concepts like gouging prices,
provide evidence for this claim
on top of actually tangible environment modifiers - most sectors are still outta whack from covids, let alone anything since.
provide evidence for this claim

>>1364582
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-have-the-highest-and-lowest-rates-of-homelessness/
10 of the 12 states with the highest homeless per capita rates have a dem governor

>>1364539
samefag
>>1364537
FDR's policies made the depression longer, handed over the country to the banks and he helped fake the holohoax
>>1364574
a. city cucks aren't people
b. dems cheated and still lost

>>1364584
Good post

>>1364585
Another good post

>>1364586
... And good post 3 in a row.
Looking at an election map from 2024, it really looks like every single state that voted Harris is on that state for top 20 homeless

You know, on a side note, if just a few democrat states had high homeless rates, or just the ones with big cities, I may believe democrats arguments when they cope over this fact..
But Vermont. Fucking Vermont. One of the most democrat states out there, with absolutely bum fuck for big cities. And it is literally number three for homeless.
For fucks sake, 9 of the top 10 most homeless states voted for Harris this year and are blue as fuck.

>>1364579
>reeee everything bad is trumps fault but anything bad in a blue state/city is also trump's fault and dems didn't do nuffin
There's lots that's directly trump's fault. There's lots indirectly tracable back to him. Not everything bad is his fault. He just takes a higher % through making stupid move after stupid move. You've not demonstrated the stupid moves 'dems' make because you're too busy focussing on strawmen to retain the narrative provided to you by your filter bubble. I'm not saing 'dems' don't make stupid moves too, but you're not demonstrating any.
>sounds like shit the dems did
"they did it" isn't a productive argument. What did them do that caused these systematic changes? Show your working.
>Phil Murphy
I was thinking trump. No matter. During the covids, what did Murph do to make sure people can't afford houses, and lose them?
>10 of the 12 states with the highest homeless per capita rates have a dem governor
Demonstrate the causality. Prove the homlessness is caused by 'dems' as opposed to a network of interconnected variables, most of which exist above the state level.
>Obongo did a shit job, Trump fixed it, biden fucked it up again
Keep telling yourself that as your situation steadily devolves further. In three years time when most of your country is on fire due to riots over food prices, get back to me.

>>1364607
>he prevented shale companies from drilling and raised oil royalties for the first time in 100 years and printed a ton of new money in spending bills
So... He prevented an ecological disaster at the expense of profits to an already wealthy company, who are gouging you on their prices to begin with? How does that cause inflation? The printing the money, that causes inflation. But that's something handled by your treasury, and glorified accountants who's job it is basically to manage inflation. That money being worth less is a consequence of capitalistic greed being positively reinforced by paying it - and having demonstrated you will pay that, the price ratchets up a notch. Then you all want pay raises, which just causes the companies to put their prices up - you pay it - and the ratchet clicks again...
>its why left wing utopias like Zimbabwe and Venezuela always have hyper inflation
First I've heard them described as 'left wing utopia'. Is that hyperinflation consequence of 'not being republican' or as consequence of a network of variables, most of which are directly caused by you with various embargo, santions etc?
>everywhere socialism and communism have been tried it has lead to hyperinflation, starvation and the government intentionally mass murdering its citizens.
Is this a consequence of 'socialism' or 'communism' or is it a consequence of the sort of greedy corrupt fucker that seeks power over another abuses said power? Ie: not a fault of the system itself, per-se, but the implimentation.
>it sets the price flood so no one will rent for less than what the government pays for section 8
So that floor is, what? I wager AirB&B did more to raise prices. I really don't see .gov spunking out more than they have to for welfare housing. Hitting a 'fair' market price, maybe, so that people can actually get housing. That I can see. The only things below this number, are again, going to the sort of places you wouldn't entertain.

>>1364607
>are you even American?
I can make sense, and think independantly. I'm not afflicted by a pathological divide of 'blue' and 'red' that renders me neutered. I thought it was obvious I'm not murrican.
> I said they were taking up housing, not that they are a tax burden.
Okay. My bad... So these illegals need themselves somewhere to live - and that reduces the available pool. But they aint getting 'proper jobs'. The housing they'll be taking is the bottom shelf shit that you don't want - and can probably only afford that due to overcrowding to share the rent burden - where the landlord is too poor or tight to upgrade to something you would want. Don't really see the issue, unless you're desperate for substandard housing options but feel free to enlighten.
>they literally are a tax burden
I CBA to bypass the paywall on the first link, I'll just assume it generally corroborates your viewpoints as a kindness. A casual skim of the second does produce some 'tax burden'. But also: "Then in May 2023, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott began sending busloads of migrants to Denver, seeking to score political points by forcing liberal cities" Seems like that is in part, 'not 'dem' but 'dem dealing with fallout'. There's also nothing to indicate that they're flowing that direction due to political orientation of mayor, beyond the reblican mayors of other places herding them there. The mayor when they arrived just happend to be democrat. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

>>1364607
>They get free shelter and food from places like NYC
A casual poke through your link produced more benefits than I expected them to acquire. But looking at the breakdown on costs, it's almost a rounding error on your budget. You literally waste more on .gov buidings you're not using alone, before anthing else. Back o the beermat maffs it sets you back avg <$3/day/citizen. Sure. Shit adds up. But I don't think this is where your focus should be.
>you legit aren't American.
And growing increasingly grateful, daily.
>supply and demand you dickless retard. 10 million more residents but no new houses. plus illegals suppress wages
Sure, depleting the pool. But again. They aint getting the 'good' houses on their low income. Likely having to overcrowd in order to make many low incomes spread the load. Only really an issue if you're desperate for substandard housing. The same rewls apply to 'illegals supressing wages' - sure, employers can get away with paying them less. But again, on the shittier end of the job market. Now consider what happens when you replace them with murrican workers. Lets pull some numbers outta arse for example purpose. Say there's 200 spics getting paid $3.20/hr to pull apples from a tree. 8hr shift, 5 day week. Lets round that up to $5.2k/wk labour costs. Now replace them with murrican workers what won't consider it for less than $16/hr. Now that's a spot over $25.5k/wk labour costs. It's a business, they pass that cost onto the consumer. Prices of apples raise. Good move, there. That'll sort inflation out.
>https://www.nj.gov/education/doedata/fact.shtml
Nothing in there supports any of your stances.
>people don't want their kids going to school with minorities so they price minorities out of their towns
Yet, minorities get paid the same as everyone else? You need to show your working.

>>1364607
>see above. the high prices and lack of building is to keep blacks out of towns.
Lack of building is to control the supply side of the supply/demand graph in order to manipulate the price. This happens where people are not racist pieces of shit too. But it's again likely more impacted by people getting $1500/night for a place through airb&b, someone else thinking: I could do that too, and following suit, rendering the housing unaffordable for common use.
>NBA superstar Steph curry blocked affordable housing because he didn't want blacks moving in
>so did Dave Chappelle
Lets just ignore the fact neither of those links backed you claims - beyond the reduction in total housing pool through failing to build houses impacting supply/demand ....
So... In your mind, the black basketball player, and the black comedian opposed the building of houses because they might get black people moving in? I've interpreted your madness correctly?

>>1364607
>Prove the homlessness is caused by 'dems' as opposed to a network of interconnected variables, most of which exist above the state level.
Bro literally every state that went Harris 2024 is on the top 20 list of states with the most homeless.
Democrats have policies that both encourage and enable homelessness.
Decriminalizing personal drug use, instructing da's not to prosecute drug use, high taxes, encouraging illegals to move there by offering "sanctuary" causing increased cost of living, all of these things increase homelessness.
Your right, it's a bunch of variables that are such that they cause these things, and the reason we see this almost exclusively in democrat municipalities is the effect of their policies

>>1364612
>Bro literally every state that went Harris 2024 is on the top 20 list of states with the most homeless.
That - at best - demonstrates commonality, not causality. It's questionable if it even demonstrates commonality as most of the factors driving this exist above the state level.

>Democrats have policies that both encourage and enable homelessness.
And there's no 'red' states whith policies that 'enable' or 'encourage' homelessness? Impressive lack of showing your working. Example of 'dem' policy designed to encourage homelessness?

>Decriminalizing personal drug use, instructing da's not to prosecute drug use, high taxes, encouraging illegals to move there by offering "sanctuary" causing increased cost of living, all of these things increase homelessness.
I wasn't aware it was the democrats that encouraged your rampant pharmecutical opioid/opiate problem. Able to back that up with fact? Or did you possibly mean cannabis - which has over the last 10,000 or so years proven itself to be harmless and the legalisation of has been a boon to your economy, lowering crime rates - and even consumption of weed? Or did you think it was better when growing a harmless plant made you a criminal because it's byproduct/waste once threatened the profits of the wealthy? To be fair, if you're gonna count cannabis as a drug - because it reacts chemically and adjusts mental state - then really you need to consider what else can do that. Alcohol. Tobacco. Two much, much, bigger problems, with much much bigger footprints to the fallout. Look into what they cost you.

>and the reason we see this almost exclusively in democrat municipalities is the effect of their policies
I've not seen much evidence they exist in 'dem municipalities' to a greater degree than 'republican municipalities'. Perhaps you can find some. What I do see is a distribution pattern that doesn't seem to align to political preferance.

>>1364591
>>1364592
>>1364593
thank you, dude

>>1364607
>There's lots that's directly trump's fault. There's lots indirectly tracable back to him.
"There's lots that's directly trump's fault. There's lots indirectly tracable back to him." isn't a productive argument. What did he do that caused these systematic changes? Show your working.
You've not demonstrated the stupid moves 'trump' make because you're too busy focussing on strawmen to retain the narrative provided to you by your filter bubble. I'm not saing 'trump' don't make stupid moves too, but you're not demonstrating any.
>I was thinking trump. No matter. During the covids, what did Murph do to make sure people can't afford houses, and lose them?
NJ has one of if not the highest SALT tax burdens in the nation and we have shitty catch and release cashless bail jails. also murphy intentionally sent coofers into old people's homes during coof to kill them
>Prove the homlessness is caused by 'dems' as opposed to a network of interconnected variables, most of which exist above the state level.
no, its a state level thing, its why cold as fuck vermont has a bunch of homeless but nice weather florida does not.
>Keep telling yourself that as your situation steadily devolves further. In three years time when most of your country is on fire due to riots over food prices, get back to me.
wow, the same retard who thought harris would win thinks there will be food riots? not going to happen retardo. maybe in your third world communist nation

>>1364608
>So... He prevented an ecological disaster
global warming was made up by china and india to destroy the US and push socialism. no one is working on real solutions like destroying the economies of china, india and africa, the worst offenders for emissions
>the expense of profits to an already wealthy company,
no, he fucked over the small shale companies. the rich standard oil companies and opec made out like bandits due to his policies. the rich oil producers want oil to be expensive. the shale companies under obongo and and trump flooded the market with cheap oil.
>How does that cause inflation?
are you retarded? when energy and transportation is more expensive all goods and services are more expensive to pay for the energy and transport
>The printing the money, that causes inflation. But that's something handled by your treasury,
the "inflation reduction act" and his other 1st term bills literally spend trillions of dollars, retard. the inflation is a political decision
>First I've heard them described as 'left wing utopia'.
literally marx's ideal
>Is that hyperinflation consequence of 'not being republican' or as consequence of a network of variables, most of which are directly caused by you with various embargo, santions etc?
its a consequence of socialism being a shit form of government.
socialism and communism are great
save us capitalism, why won't you trade with us
>Is this a consequence of 'socialism' or 'communism'
yes, the explicit goal of socialism is communism and the goal of communism is to create a slave state where a jewish monarch rules over chattel slaves
>So that floor is, what?
https://www.nyc.gov/site/nycha/section-8/voucher-payment-standards-vps-utility-allowance-schedule.page
depends on where you live. In NYC section 8 will pay fucking $2,696 per month for a 1 bedroom apartment. now nice places need to be more expensive so the poors don't move in and bring crime and shitty schools

>>1364609
>I can make sense, and think independantly.
you evidently cannot
> I thought it was obvious I'm not murrican.
then why are you showing your entire ass in this thread? I don't talk about your third world country.
>. Don't really see the issue, unless you're desperate for substandard housing options but feel free to enlighten.
as per my previous post, if they buy up all the houses it put upward pressure on everyone else to keep prices up to make sure they don't move in and creates more demand and less supply for nicer towns with no illegals or section 8
>Seems like that is in part, 'not 'dem' but 'dem dealing with fallout'. There's also nothing to indicate that they're flowing that direction due to political orientation of mayor, beyond the reblican mayors of other places herding them there. The mayor when they arrived just happend to be democrat. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.
dems in blue cities with dem mayors literally voted for more illegals, wheel chair man is just sending the people what they voted for

>>1364610
>A casual poke through your link produced more benefits than I expected them to acquire. But looking at the breakdown on costs, it's almost a rounding error on your budget. You literally waste more on .gov buidings you're not using alone, before anthing else.
NYC sued the bus companies saying the gibs for 33,600 illegals for 1 year was $708 million.
Illegals are very expensive to the taxpayers
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/roadrunners-charters-agrees-to-temporarily-stop-transporting-migrants-to-nyc/
https://www.osc.ny.gov/reports/asylum-seeker-spending-report
https://www.nyc.gov/content/getstuffdone/pages/asylum-seeker-update
https://www.governor.ny.gov/programs/taking-action-address-asylum-seeker-crisis-new-york
https://www.lohud.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/01/16/nys-budget-why-kathy-hochul-proposing-billions-for-asylum-seeker-housing-services/72238067007/
https://nypost.com/2024/08/13/us-news/nyc-migrant-crisis-costs-will-crack-eye-popping-5-billion-on-shelters-security-and-food/
> Back o the beermat maffs it sets you back avg <$3/day/citizen. Sure. Shit adds up. But I don't think this is where your focus should be.
I'd gladly let every illegal starve to death or die of exposure for $90 a month.
>And growing increasingly grateful, daily.
we don't want you here, queero
>Sure, depleting the pool. But again.
for the 20th fucking time, it increases demand, decreases supply and makes nicer places raise their prices to price them out
>Now replace them with murrican workers what won't consider it for less than $16/hr. Now that's a spot over $25.5k/wk labour costs. It's a business, they pass that cost onto the consumer. Prices of apples raise. Good move, there. That'll sort inflation out.
the greedy banker will have to eat some or all of those labor costs. apples aren't gas. people don't need it. if people don't need it you can't just raise the prices because labor went up.

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>>1364623
Jesus christ grandpa go back to facebook

>>1364610
>Nothing in there supports any of your stances.
are you actually fucking retarded? do you not know how to read? I said the SCOTUS said you can't desegregate via busing over district lines
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/739493839/this-supreme-court-case-made-school-district-lines-a-tool-for-segregation
https://www.oyez.org/cases/1973/73-434
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_segregation_in_the_United_States#Supreme_Court_rulings
The link was to show NJ has almost 600 school districts, 9 times as many as Florida and the lawsuit alleges they are there for the purpose of segregation and most NJ schools are very segregated
>Yet, minorities get paid the same as everyone else?
whites makes significantly more on average than blacks and hispanics retardo
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2024/09/household-income-race-hispanic.html
idk how you are even arguing this shit
>You need to show your working.
weird how I am the only one providing any sources for my argument where as you have refused when asked

>>1364611
>Lack of building is to control the supply side of the supply/demand graph in order to manipulate the price. This happens where people are not racist pieces of shit too. But it's again likely more impacted by people getting $1500/night for a place through airb&b, someone else thinking: I could do that too, and following suit, rendering the housing unaffordable for common use.
houses don't get built because the people who live in towns refuse to let the town build houses. they elect mayors and town councils who won't build more housing and remove any mayors who do. it literally happens all over the country, retard.
show your work that air b and b is causing housing prices to go up by itself
>So... In your mind, the black basketball player, and the black comedian opposed the building of houses because they might get black people moving in? I've interpreted your madness correctly?
" Safety and privacy for us and our kids continues to be our top priority and one of the biggest reasons we chose Atherton as home. With the density being proposed for 23 Oakwood, there are major concerns in terms of both privacy and safety with three-story townhomes looming directly behind us."
safety and privacy is literally a dog whistle for we don't want blacks moving into multi family houses bringing crime
" said during a council meeting that he was “adamantly opposed” to the proposal that would add “140 mixed-income level homes to the village.”"
he doesn't want poor blacks moving in
>>1364612
good post

>>1364624
trump won bigly with young men, tranni boi
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a9c1c24-a856-45a8-98d7-60746827a1bc_1490x762.png

>>1364626
>>1364631
>>1364632
What board do you think you're on right now?

>>1364633
the one where a record number of shills killed themselves with harris lost

>>1364634
According to whom?

>>1364632
>keeps trying to post images on a text board
retard

>>1364619
I'm not saing 'trump' don't make stupid moves too, but you're not demonstrating any.
Okay then. Where shall we start...
build a wall and mexico will pay, Keystone XL pipeline, Steve Bannon, withdrawel from paris agreement, cutting a pandemic early warning program - just two months before covids, reducing corporate taxes, starting trade wars... not a bad list for from the top of my head. I'm sure if I tried I can fill the entire post. That's just things to negatively impact economy, that's not even the stupid shit list. And I don't have a filter bubble. I don't allow algorithms to define my content.

> NJ has one of if not the highest SALT tax burdens in the nation
Wasn't SALT something trump did?

>also murphy intentionally sent coofers into old people's homes during coof to kill them
Same shit happened other places, where 'dems' certainly wasn't to blame. Having known this is in the ecosystem, why didn't you close the borders and quarrentine every fucker that comes through? Oh. That's right. Trump crippled your ability.

>its a state level thing
The larger number, and heavier weighted variables exist above the state level.

> but nice weather florida does not.
yet. I'm confident this will rapidly change.

>wow, the same retard who thought harris would win thinks there will be food riots?
I said I thought harris would win, where? Point it out. Ask an adult to help. And yes, you'll be having food riots - unless you are all as faggotry as I think you are, and just bend over and take it. You've already started locking up the butter.

>>1364639
>maybe in your third world communist nation
If by 'third world' you mean 'fintech capital of the world' - sure. And it's far from communist. You should know, you based your systems on it.

>global warming was made up by china and india to destroy the US and push socialism. no one is working on real solutions like destroying the economies of china, india and africa, the worst offenders for emissions
You're seriously that brain damaged? There's not any sense trying to correct you about it's legitimacy you're determined to ignore the truth. So lets focus on the rest of the bullshit. China, India, and Africa are all 'developing nations' - effectively 'pre-industrial revolution', with the exception of china who industrially dwarf you already. You had yours, now they're having theirs.
Expecting to not would be unreasonable. But I suspect you are that much of a cunt. If they skip the 'burning fossils' stage, they'd be a lot cleaner. India and Africa don't have much options other than fossils until they can pick themselves up a little bit. China have already hit their 2030 targets, I hear, breached 'peak coal' and in theory *should* start spewing less carbon. Time will tell, and not too long to wait. You on the other hand are still acellerating.

>flooded the market with cheap oil.
Remeber that supply/demand relationship? Oil supply is controlled to cause the current prices. It could be cheaper, cheaper than that shale. Why isn't it? Hint: It's not a "democrat" thing.

>the "inflation reduction act" and his other 1st term bills literally spend trillions of dollars, retard. the inflation is a political decision
And how long will it take for the effects of this to manifest to the edges of the sprawling chelonian mess? Hint: not this year. If spending money causes inflation, then what do you think happened when trump gave everyone that munny in his last stint? I bet you thoiught it was a good idea at the time, too...

>>1364641
>the goal of communism is to create a slave state where a jewish monarch rules over chattel slaves
Fuck me. I thought you lot was dense before you started posting...

>NYC section 8 will pay fucking $2,696 per month for a 1 bedroom apartment. now nice places need to be more expensive so the poors don't move in and bring crime and shitty schools
Is that a consequence of 'dems' - or is it the housing market in NYC went through the roof due to airb&b et al and this was just a response so people can actually get housing?

>if people don't need it you can't just raise the prices because labor went up.
That explains why everything 'non essential' costs have continually increased... Look at historic prices increases, overlay onto that graph historic wages increases. Spot patterns.

>>1364626
>are you actually fucking retarded? do you not know how to read? I said the SCOTUS said you can't desegregate via busing over district lines
Yes. And there was nothing in that link regarding. Just numbers for schools, types etc. The other links you posted later might contain something, I'm not bothering with them.

> whites makes significantly more on average than blacks and hispanics retardo
There's a disparity in as much as a lot of the low paid positions go to the hispanics, and the larger % of your population is white... Refactor those numbers for equal sample size. I'm not sure how to refactor for educational disparity through being unable to afford your crippling further education costs the blacks n spics wouldn't be able to afford for their kids.

>how your work that air b and b is causing housing prices to go up by itself
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/does-airbnb-really-make-housing-more-expensive-these-researchers-say-they-found-an-answer-11612284049
First link I find. I'm sure you'll find many if you could be bothered. Some dealing NYC specifically, tho this isn't a problem limited to our shore.

>he doesn't want poor blacks moving in
You c&p a decent chunk of the statement. Nowhere does it say that. That's your interpretion. Nothing more. There's general opposition here whenever someone tries to build houses, the local council stamp all over it. It's not about 'blacks'. There ma be some examples of this, somewhere. But it's not the examples you've cited.

>>1364647
*your shore

>>1364631
>show your work that air b and b is causing housing prices to go up by itself
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID3548974_code2171934.pdf?abstractid=3006832&mirid=1&type=2
That paper was authored 2017. Remind me. Who was in charge then?

>>1364526
oh but ur fine with blaming trump for everything right? Trump should repossess property from far-left terrorists and people with terroristic rhetoric and use that money to build giant camps to burn some garbage. then use the money to renovate and give these homeless folks a decent housing.
The world would be better without people like you, terrorists

>>1364822
I'm *not* "blaming trump for everything". I'm using him as an example to counter your claims. You're the one that's politically blinkered into considering every negative thing is a consequence of 'the other side'.

I'll happily blame trump for something he has done, as will I blame anyone else for the things they do. Like blaming you for what you've signed yourself up for.

Informing you of objective truth does not make me a terrorist. If it theatens your internal world narrative, perhaps you should spend some time examining this.

>>1364616
>That - at best - demonstrates commonality, not causality. It's questionable if it even demonstrates commonality as most of the factors driving this exist above the state level.
Stop huffing your own farts.

I love how Democrats are suddenly in favor of jobs paying $3/hr as long as it's for the benefit of a corporation and the worker is illegal.

This retard is literally arguing that we need illegal immigrants working shit jobs. Those jobs shouldn't exist if they can't pay minimum wage. If your dumbass hypocritical self can't accept that any job that relies on slave labor, illegals, sweat shops, etc, to be profitable, then it needs to be eliminated for the sake of humanity. This is the reason why Starbucks has their own military in other countries.

>>1364868
"capitalism" is too broad an explanation for homelessness. Are you saying that local policies have nothing to do with it?

>>1364616
>Or did you possibly mean cannabis - which has over the last 10,000 or so years proven itself to be harmless and the legalisation of has been a boon to your economy, lowering crime rates - and even consumption of weed? Or did you think it was better when growing a harmless plant made you a criminal because it's byproduct/waste once threatened the profits of the wealthy? To be fair, if you're gonna count cannabis as a drug - because it reacts chemically and adjusts mental state - then really you need to consider what else can do that. Alcohol. Tobacco. Two much, much, bigger problems, with much much bigger footprints to the fallout. Look into what they cost you.
holy shit you are an ignorant retard living in a bubble. Pretty much every single place that legalized weed saw an increase in crime because weed is highly addictive and turns people into volent retards
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0047235220302361
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9462911/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6461328/
but hey, I'm sure you live in a retard bubble where you only consume communist propaganda and your main hobby is jerking off while high on weed.
>>1364636
we don't sign our posts here

>>1364639
>>1364639
>build a wall and mexico will pay,
based. the razor white in texas dropped illegal alien rates by a ton and we could cripple the mexican economy with tariffs if they don't play ball. Trump's remain in mexico policy got illegal immigration rates down to near historic lows before brandon canceled it.
>Keystone XL pipeline
the keystone xl was mega based, there was zero wrong with it. it would have lowered energy costs and pipelines are one of the safest ways to transport oil
>Steve Bannon
cool dude who did nothing wrong
>withdrawel from paris agreement,
incredibly fucking based since the paris agreement was just a plot to destroy the economies of the US and western yurope to benefit china
>cutting a pandemic early warning program
wouldn't have mattered. dems were blocking trump from blocking flights and saying it was racist and telling people to go to china town until they realized they could ruin the economy intentionally with lockdowns
>reducing corporate taxes,
tax the rich corporations
ok here are tariffs
no not like that, taxing mexican and chinese rich corporations is bad, only tax American corporations. taxes on chinese and mexican corporations get passed onto consumers, but someone taxes on American corporations do not
>starting trade wars
trade wars are based. NAFTA fucked a whole fuck ton of American workers and its why clinton and harris lost
>And I don't have a filter bubble. I don't allow algorithms to define my content.
lol you clearly only consume actual chinese communist propaganda
>Wasn't SALT something trump did?
SALT stands for State and Local Taxes, you ignorant retard who gets xis news from an algorithm and bubble. Great job at arguing from a place of ignorance, retardo. SALT is taxes levied by the state, county and town governments, not by the fucking federal government

>>1364639
>>1364639
>Same shit happened other places, where 'dems' certainly wasn't to blame. Having known this is in the ecosystem,
this shit happened in democrat run NYC. there was a whole scandal about it because cuomo got caught doing it on purpose and then lying in a federal investigation about how many died because he was afraid of going to federal jail for treason and republican run florida had a much better old survival rate despite having a higher rate of olds
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/nyregion/cuomo-aides-nursing-home-deaths.html
https://www.lohud.com/story/news/coronavirus/2020/05/29/how-new-york-florida-and-other-states-handled-covid-19-threat-to-nursing-homes-differently/5274048002/
>why didn't you close the borders and quarrentine every fucker that comes through? Oh. That's right. Trump crippled your ability.
it was literally the dems who refused to close the borders because it was "racist" you fucking retard
>The larger number, and heavier weighted variables exist above the state level.
source? show your work.
>yet. I'm confident this will rapidly change.
you have 100% been talking out of your ass this entire time and coming from a place of ignorance and a bubble
>. And yes, you'll be having food riots - unless you are all as faggotry as I think you are, and just bend over and take it. You've already started locking up the butter.
holy shit you are in a massive fucking bubble and are ignorant and retarded. that tiktok algorithm has tons of power over you. Literally the only places that have butter locked up are in black neighborhoods. none of the stores near me lock shit up because people don't fucking rob the places. its literally just in california or nyc or paterson or newark where they do that shit due to theft

>>1364641
>If by 'third world' you mean 'fintech capital of the world'
when I google fintech capital of the world it says san francisco, so yeah, you live in a third world communist shithole.
>You're seriously that brain damaged? There's not any sense trying to correct you about it's legitimacy you're determined to ignore the truth.
notice how you demand evidence and to "show your work" but you just throw insults and repeat dogma without a shred of evidence
> So lets focus on the rest of the bullshit. China, India, and Africa are all 'developing nations' - effectively 'pre-industrial revolution', with the exception of china who industrially dwarf you already. You had yours, now they're having theirs.
Expecting to not would be unreasonable. But I suspect you are that much of a cunt. If they skip the 'burning fossils' stage, they'd be a lot cleaner. India and Africa don't have much options other than fossils until they can pick themselves up a little bit.
not my fucking problem. I'm not lowering my quality of life one iota for chinese communist propaganda. if you want to stop CO2 emissions, take away all the electricity and ICE from india, africa and china.
> China have already hit their 2030 targets,
because it wasn't ambitious at all and allows them to produce as much CO2 as they want. all these global warming "deals" only want white people to stop emitting CO2 and don't give a shit what china and the global south do.

>>1364641
>Remeber that supply/demand relationship? Oil supply is controlled to cause the current prices. It could be cheaper, cheaper than that shale. Why isn't it? Hint: It's not a "democrat" thing.
you are a fucking retard. in 2014ish fracking the oil sands up near north dakota became profitable. a bunch of new upstart companies started producing. this lead to a drop in the price of oil. because saudi arabia and most opec countries can only maintain their current governments with oil money they were all forced to over produce and make their money on volume. if they didn't there were riots and instability because the people were calling for the king's heads due to lack of gibs. this caused opec to over produce and standard oil to over produce. when Biden took over he put a royalty on the shale oil companies and refused to give them drilling permits, this meant the cartel of opec and standard oil who biden and harris work for could dramtically cut production and sell oil at a price the cartel wanted without needing to worry about the competition form the shale companies
>And how long will it take for the effects of this to manifest to the edges of the sprawling chelonian mess?
the spending started right away you fucking retard and it was one of the first things biden did. it taxed heating oil and sent a ton of money to china. you are a fucking retard and are arguing from a place of ignorance

>>1364643
>Fuck me. I thought you lot was dense before you started posting...
USSR, red china, Vietnam, cambidia, cuba, north korea
I can go on, fagito
>Is that a consequence of 'dems'
yes, its because of fucking dems you fucking retard. people aren't putting up air b&bs in the suburbs or the ghettos and if they were, why didn't the democrat state governments regulated them? why didn't brandon?
>That explains why everything 'non essential' costs have continually increased... Look at historic prices increases, overlay onto that graph historic wages increases. Spot patterns.
compared to the median wage, Guns, TVs, clothing, cars and vidyo games are near or at historic lows in prices. its literally only shit the government is regulating and throwing money into that went up in price.
>>1364647
>Yes. And there was nothing in that link regarding. Just numbers for schools, types etc. The other links you posted later might contain something, I'm not bothering with them.
I linked that link as the source for me saying NJ had nearly 600 school districts you fucking retard. and thanks for admitting you are in an algorithm bubble and refuse to read anything that tiktok doesn't tell you
>There's a disparity in as much as a lot of the low paid positions go to the hispanics, and the larger % of your population is white... Refactor those numbers for equal sample size. I'm not sure how to refactor for educational disparity through being unable to afford your crippling further education costs the blacks n spics wouldn't be able to afford for their kids.
what the fuck are you talking about you fucking retard? I said people don't wan to live near blacks and hispanics so they price them out. you said they made the same money and I showed you the median salary data shows that isn't true. house prices are high to proces blacks and hispanics out of towns

>>1364647
>You c&p a decent chunk of the statement. Nowhere does it say that. That's your interpretion. Nothing more. There's general opposition here whenever someone tries to build houses, the local council stamp all over it. It's not about 'blacks'. There ma be some examples of this, somewhere. But it's not the examples you've cited.
who do you think is doing the crimes? who would be changing the character of a 90%+ white town?
>First link I find. I'm sure you'll find many if you could be bothered. Some dealing NYC specifically, tho this isn't a problem limited to our shore.
>That paper was authored 2017. Remind me. Who was in charge then?
this says rent was only going up by $9 you fucking retard. At the time Democrat Bill Deblasio was in charge of NYC, Democrat Andrew Cuomo was governor of NY state and democrat phil murphy was elected governor of NJ. why didn't any of these dems ban Air b&b in their states if it was causing this issue, you fucking retard?
>>1364875
>>1364943
good posts

>>1364868
>Informing you of objective truth does not make me a terrorist.
is that why anti-vaxxes is a crime against humanity, but it was fine when trump was the president because "he's using us as human experiments to rush out his untested vaccine".
No one will hold trump accountable anymore because of all the shit the left have held him accountable for that he didn't actually do the double standards literally broke the scale.

>>1364523
I just spent 2 years in NJ as a homeless bro. It was surprisingly based imo, most homeless people I met fucking hate the experience, yet in some ways I miss living in the wilds. The "forest compound" I built was far more secluded and peaceful for me and my 2 Dogs compared to this upscale apartment we moved into a month ago. Out there I had a sense of privacy with my frens wanting to spend the night only occasionally. But here it feels like me and the Dogs never get alone time. Everybody constantly wants to visit here nearly 24/7 and always drinks all my coffees and eat all my cheese etc. it's a pain in the ass. I preferred the wasteland in some ways so maybe Ted Kazchinsky was right and we'd be better off going back to monkey. however it is at least easier to type 4chan posts from this PC compared to my phone out there. eh

>>1364524
I suppose he could starve more of them out by shutting down SNAP, but I think Biden and Trump are both too incompetent to accomplish any goals they have in mind