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Biden White House Is Discussing Preemptive Pardons for Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, and Anthony Fauci.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610
President Joe Biden’s senior aides are conducting a vigorous internal debate over whether to issue preemptive pardons to a range of current and former public officials who could be targeted with President-elect Donald Trump’s return to the White House, according to senior Democrats familiar with the discussions.

Biden’s aides are deeply concerned about a range of current and former officials who could find themselves facing inquiries and even indictments, a sense of alarm which has only accelerated since Trump last weekend announced the appointment of Kash Patel to lead the FBI. Patel has publicly vowed to pursue Trump’s critics.

The West Wing deliberations have been organized by White House counsel Ed Siskel but include a range of other aides, including chief of staff Jeff Zients. The president himself, who was intensely focused on his son’s pardon, has not been brought into the broader pardon discussions yet, according to people familiar with the deliberations.
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>>1366171
I DONT UNDERSTAND PARDONS. HOW CAN HE PARDON SOMEONE BEFORE THEYVE BEEN CONVICITED!? ITS UNENFORCABLE!!??
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Trump is senile.
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>>1366171
Gee, why would fauci need a pardon I wonder? Odd..
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>>1366185
Gee, dummy shill, i wonder why tRump's enemies need protection? Could it be because Bannon and other utterly corrupt facsists have the ear of the senile old evil geezer? As far as Schiff and Pelosi go, I hope they end up in tRump's gulag. But when the Civil War comes. We commies gonna line u and bannon et al against the wall. tRump will be dead from a stroke, so no wall.
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>>1366185
You retards are out for his blood because you can't distinguish conspiracy and fantasy from reality.
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>>1366261
>Says the dRumpf obsessed retard.
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>>1366225
Except Trump never did anything what his enemies accused him off doing you troglodyte
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>>1366268
He's the next president you fucking idiot
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>>1366310
dRumpf isn't going to steal your gay sex. You can relax.
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>>1366311
>>1366268
The man's name is Donald John Trump.
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>>1366173
I'll assume you're mocking me, there.

If you stop to think, instead of "reeeeee". you might be able to deploy logic.
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>>1366342
If you stopped to think you wouldn't be supporting a corrupt billionaire.
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>>1366171
democrats and their intel dogs are the biggest traitors in US history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrJhQpvlkLA
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>>1366327
It's Grrnold Grrr gRumpf.
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>>1366352
I'm not supporting a corrupt billionare. I've no love for a single one. Being a politician only amplifies this dislike.
My argument is and always has been the logic.

>>1366449
Calm down, scoob, like he's not going to take your scooby snaxxx.
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>>1366446
Honestly you should stop spamming this and just make a thread. I'm sure you can find a news article on it somewhere. It's a really good interview
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>>1366497
The fact that he thinks a Joe Rogan interview is news is the problem.
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>>1366494
>I'm not aware of the corrupt billionaires I support.
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Republicunts: We're going to retaliate and make up crimes to arrest everyone who ever dared to point out Lord Trumps crimes
>Biden takes out his pardon pen
Repubicunts: NOOOOOO NOOOO YOU CANT REEEEEEEE

Keep crying, faggots. Biden can do whatever he wants because of Trumps corrupt court picks.
Everyone that you faggots have been salivating about attacking should get a per-emptive pardon just to shut you down.
Then Trump can still get prosecuted and die in jail after he leaves the white house and state level cases can move forward again.
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>>1366539
>Republicans: "Let's adopt constitutionalist judges. That sounds like a good idea."
>Democrats: "I'm tired of living under rule of law. From now on I'm going to be unapologetically insane."
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>>1366540
Accurate
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>>1366542
Downvoted
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>>1366171
Democrats are all criminals. More news at 11.
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>>1366546
I just want to find 11780 votes, which is only 1 more than we need.
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>>1366550
OK but where did the millions of Democrats go between 2020 and 2024?
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>>1366550
Democrats are all criminals. More news at 11.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/29/mn-city-likely-disposed-of-21-ballots-in-race-decided-for-dem-candidate-by-14-votes/
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>>1366551
post less, troll harder.
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>>1366552
But Brad, it's obvious we won the election just based on rally size. All I want to do is this, I just want to find 11780 votes, which is 1 more than we need.
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>>1366554
We're a month into the blue states still counting votes and you're still six million short.
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>>1366556
So dead people voted, and I think it's close to 5000 people. What you're doing to this country is a travesty. Look, all I want to do is this. I just want to find 11780 votes, which is 1 more than we need.
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>>1366558
You're six million votes short, bilal.
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We're only 11780 votes short, which is 1 more than we need.
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>>1366171
Nigger every polition does this shit when they leave office seriously go look at the list of people trump, Obama, George Bush and many other presidents have pardoned this is nothing new they always pardon their friends and allies Its almost like giving the president unchecked power to pardon anyone he wants was a retarded idea.
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>>1366269
Cannibalistic Humanoid Urban Dweller is what they call your sort
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>>1366569
Granting blanket clemency for unaccused individuals that cover time spans and all crimes rather than specific offenses is absolutely unprecedented, the singular former example being Nixon. This is not a normal use of pardon power.
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>>1366707
Good post.
Accurate. Nixon got a blanket pardon for 4 years. Hunter was blanket pardoned for 11 years. Hunter is right now the most pardoned individual in US history.
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>>1366569
No politicians has ever done this on the scale Biden is doing it. Hunter's pardon alone is historymaking, going further is just insane.
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>>1366711
>Congress investigating Hunter for years and not finding anything is historymaking, going further is just insane.
And yet they proceeded.
And immediately claimed that they're justified publishing nothing about Gaetz because he's a private citizen, and private citizens shouldn't be investigated by congress
No one actually intelligent cares about your hypocritical whining.
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>>1366712
>Congress investigating Hunter for years and not finding anything
He got charged with 11 crimes due to stuff found by Congress while investigating him
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>>1366712
https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2024/06/05/smith-comer-and-jordan-refer-hunter-and-james-biden-for-criminal-prosecution-as-part-of-impeachment-inquiry-of-president-biden/
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>>1366725
Not anything to do with Joe Biden though, which was the whole point of that investigation. Just not paying taxes and buying a gun while on drugs.
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>>1366727
Joe Biden is in office. He can't be charged with a crime though.
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>>1366727
>Hunter was investigated for years and they didn't find anything!
>Ok, they did find stuff and hunter was convicted of it, but what about Joe?
He's currently the president
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>>1366730
>still pretending bursima was relevant
its why Joe pardoned back to 2014
you need to shut up already
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>>1366732
>if crimes happened in the past they don't matter
>if Hunter did crimes that don't involve the president they don't matter
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>>1366712
>Congress investigating Hunter for years and not finding anything is historymaking
Not really, isn't that what happened with Trump's Russian interference investigation?
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>>1366729
>>1366730
Retards the whole point of their little circus act was to find evidence Biden abused his position for personal gain in coordination with Hunter, and use it as grounds for an impeachment. They found nothing but Hunter's crimes he committed completely on his own while he was addicted to drugs, nothing relating to burisma, ukraine, or even that laptop you kept harping on and on about for years.

Hunters crimes were his own, and the charges themselves should've been resolved with a plea deal and minor sentence and only weren't because he was Biden's son.
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>>1366744
>the charges themselves should've been resolved with a plea deal and minor sentence
Why?

>only weren't because he was Biden's son.
Well you're half right about this part
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>>1366738
Where do you get the idea that they didn't find anything on Trump?
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>>1366756
Because they didn't
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>>1366756
Well, they didn't tho. Mueller did not establish that trump worked with Russia
It was a massive flop after 4 years of democrat echo chambering and fart huffing.
I think they did manage to convict someone for telling a half truth to the FBI tho.
Bigly winning. Much success. Many Mueller.
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>>1366759
>Mueller did not establish that trump worked with Russia
But he did establish that a bunch of Trump's associates did. And then Trump pardoned them anyway.
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>>1366754
He literally got a plea deal anon, and accepted it. Then it got thrown out when Repubs started pressing for anything they could stick his dad with.
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>>1366761
Which ones?
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>>1366762
Because the plea deal was bogus and everyone knew it. He had to watch a video about not owning guns while being a drug addict and pay the taxes he didn't pay. Haim Jerry Kohen got 5 years for fewer crimes.
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>>1366764
Good post.
>>1366762
Stop lying.
The judge threw it out because hunters attorney was under the impression it was going to insulate hunter from all future crimes, which the prosecution said was not the case, so the plea deal was thrown out.
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>>1366261
100% safe
>vaccine induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia
>Guillain-Barré syndrome
and effective!
>doesn't prevent infection
>doesn't prevent transmission
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>>1366769
You got any actual proof of that or just shit you heard on a podcast? Because I've got at least four studies determining effectiveness.
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>>1366770
>effectiveness
Against what? In what way?
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>>1366770
https://www.hematology.org/covid-19/vaccine-induced-immune-thrombotic-thrombocytopenia
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8267336/
https://www.osfhealthcare.org/blog/fully-vaccinated-less-likely-to-pass-covid-19-to-others/
You're blind, deaf, and fucking stupid at this point because even the WHO and CDC admitted they lied and downplay it over and over again. "100% safe and effective!" they told you for months, then the narrative morphed into "oh it doesn't stop you from catching it...it reduced symptoms!" Something they can not possibly prove or gather data for in any capacity, especially since 1 in 3 people show zero symptoms even if they're not vaccinated. Doesn't top retards like you from believing it.
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>>1366772
>Incidence is extremely low. Risk of death and serious outcomes of COVID-19, including thrombosis, far outweigh risk of VITT possibly associated with highly efficacious vaccines.
>We identified a total of 109 GBS cases. Ninety-nine cases had confirmed COVID-19 infection with an average age of 56.07 years.
Congratulations, you've proven there's a very low chance of a bad reaction and a much higher chance if you just got covid without the vaccine.

> However, a 2023 study found that vaccinated people were significantly less likely to transmit the virus
>If the viral load is significantly less due to vaccination, there’s less risk of transmitting the virus to others.
And again. Reduced chances. No vaccine on this earth is absolutely perfect; what matters is enough herd immunity through them the virus dies off or has to mutate to a less dangerous variant.

You retards get mad at science because you can't comprehend the idea that nothing is 100% guaranteed.
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>>1366778
>there's a very low chance
>And again. Reduced chances
What part of "100% safe and effective" do you have difficulty understanding was a TOTAL FUCKING LIE?!
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>>1366778
>mad at science because you can't comprehend
What is that exactly? The clinical trials that had their entire control group backburned because they were all vaccinated when it finally was concluded? Those same clinical trials had not even concluded when the vaccine rolled out. Or maybe you mean the pharmaceutical corporation that dumped millions into sponsoring news media corporations for the entire duration of the pandemic? Or maybe the general practitioners and paper pushers that don't know a thing about virology, or even what an adenoviral vector is, endorsing the product?
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>>1366779
Early trials had 100% effective rates within their test populations. That doesn't mean 100% effective in every scenario, because that's physically impossible. All it means is it fucking works.
>https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-confirm-high-efficacy-and-no-serious
You can literally see right alongside the 100% metrics for certain case studies they also have 95% and 91% rates for others. You just don't understand how statistics work and fell for headlines instead of actually looking into the statistics. Ironic from the fucking "do your own research" crowd.
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>>1366783
>Early trials had 100% effective rates within their test populations
"Early trials" hadn't even published their results when the papers to buy the vaccine were signed, jackass.
>That doesn't mean 100% effective
And yet that's what they told you, and you believed it.
>You just don't understand how statistics work and fell for headlines
Headlines that were direct statements from both Pfizer and Moderna published by news media corporations they were funding. Nothing strange going on there, huh? Ignorant fuck.
>Ironic from the fucking "do your own research" crowd.
Meanwhile you asked for proof of VITT, a term which was literally created to describe the blood clots formed by these vaccines in particular. Seems like you didn't even do any research. Your little "fell for headlines" comment seems to be projection to me.
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>>1366789
Do you have anything other than "IT'S ALL LIES, EVERY STATISTIC THAT COUNTERS MY POINT WAS ALL MADE UP BY DA BIG PHARMA"?

>Meanwhile you asked for proof of VITT, a term which was literally created to describe the blood clots formed by these vaccines in particular
Retard your own article says it's a rare reaction. This is like claiming the existence of people allergic to peanuts means peanuts are dangerous, or that the possibility of a having a heart attack from running too much means running is dangerous. Ironically, even your own article on VITT admits you can get the exact same kind of reaction from actual covid on a much higher chance, which means you've got to decide which dice you'd rather roll.
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>>1366791
>Do you have anything other than -the obvious conclusion-
Good question. Do you have anything other than apologisms for those corporations? There are people that are dead because of these vaccines. Dead in the ground. I don't fucking care if it was 2 people, or 20 people, or 200 people, or 2000 people, they're fucking dead.
>it's a rare reaction
Ah yes the fallback for the godless and the ignorant. Only a -few- people died because they were lied to. It was -rare-! Their death via deceit and greed doesn't matter! Godless fucking trog.
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>>1366792
you're lying to us now and you don't seem upset
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>>1366792
>There are people that are dead because of these vaccines. Dead in the ground. I don't fucking care if it was 2 people, or 20 people, or 200 people, or 2000 people, they're fucking dead.
And how many of them are alive because of them? Again, there are people allergic to every medicine. There is no such thing as a 100% perfect cure. Edge cases exist in every scenario.

>Only a -few- people died because they were lied to.
How many people died from COVID who could've been saved by the vaccine retard? How many of them convinced themselves not to take it because you retards fearmongered that it would kill them via heart attack in a year, only to die of covid within that year? How about the ones that died because they decided to treat it with shit like Ivermectin instead of just getting the vaccine?

You can't claim every death matters when the alternative exposure to a virus with a much higher rate of side effects than the vaccine could ever manage.
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>>1366795
>you're lying to us now
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8646430/
>Vaccine‐induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT) is a rare but severe immunological reaction to the non‐replicable adenoviral vector‐based COVID‐19 vaccines. Extreme activation of platelets and the coagulation system leads to a high risk of death from venous or arterial thrombosis or secondary hemorrhage. Public and clinician awareness has reduced mortality of VITT from about 50%
Don't worry, the mortality rate was only HALF you fucking retard.
>>1366796
>And how many of them are alive because of them?
That is utterly impossibly to determine in any statistical sense, which is something you would know if you actually knew anything about the statistics you love so much.
>There is no such thing as a 100% perfect cure
And yet the official line is "100% safe and effective."
>How about the ones that died because they decided to treat it with shit like Ivermectin instead of just getting the vaccine?
Again, literally impossible to determine in any clinical sense.
>You can't claim every death matters
Hilarious.
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>>1366797
>Don't worry, the mortality rate was only HALF you fucking retard.
Yeah on a side effect that occurs in 1 out of 500,000 cases. Possibly rarer.

>That is utterly impossibly to determine in any statistical sense
As is the idea that these people wouldn't have experienced the same adverse reaction to covid itself as they would've from the vaccine. Face it anon; nothing the vaccine can do to you is something getting covid can't. You're fucked either way, but at least one option has the rate be less.

>And yet the official line is "100% safe and effective."
That was headlines. I literally sent you pfizer's own page where they say their trial numbers were 100%-95% depending on metric. You fell for clickbait.
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>>1366800
>Yeah on a side effect that occurs in 1 out of 500,000 cases
And that's 11100 people, at least half of whom are dead. Most likely more, since "public and clinician awareness" reduced the mortality rate after an indeterminate period of time.
>nothing the vaccine can do to you is something getting covid can't
Questionable, especially since the administration of the vaccine involves and uncapped string of genetic information as compared to the normal administration of viral genetic information into a cell. Unless you're a leader in the field of virology or genetics it's not really something you can say with any confidence.
>That was headlines.
Yes published statements are headlines. Just type "100% safe and effective" into google you'll most likely get the statements of that efficacy for teenagers and young adults.
>pfizer's own page where they say their trial numbers were 100%-95%
Funny, because the trials weren't over until halfway through the pandemic.
>You fell for clickbait.
Obviously not since I'm the one telling you it was, and still is a fucking lie.
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>>1366804
>And that's 11100 people, at least half of whom are dead
And now how many people do you think got the same reaction from covid? You care about life when you can be a contrarian about it.
>Just type "100% safe and effective" into google you'll most likely get the statements of that efficacy for teenagers and young adults.
From news stations. Not the actual medical reports.
>Funny, because the trials weren't over until halfway through the pandemic.
Retard the article is from 2021. It was literally disclosing the results of their trials.
>Questionable, especially since the administration of the vaccine involves and uncapped string of genetic information as compared to the normal administration of viral genetic information into a cell. Unless you're a leader in the field of virology or genetics it's not really something you can say with any confidence.
Actually, I can on account of how every single negative reaction to the vaccine is something covid itself can also cause. Inflamed heart issues have also been linked to covid itself at a much higher rate. The better option was to get the vaccine because that at least made your chances higher than just leaving yourself vulnerable to the raw virus. The whole point of a vaccine is to be a weakened version of the virus; the new vaccines just accomplished it in a different way.

>"well, it's bad because it could cause these things at this rate, as opposed to the alternative of causing them at a much higher rates. Hmmm, I love glue and not understanding statistics"
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>>1366804
>Unless you're a leader in the field of virology or genetics it's not really something you can say with any confidence.
somehow this doesn't apply to you though?
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>>1366806
>And now how many people do you think got the same reaction from covid?
Good question. However, those people weren't killed by a pharmaceutical corporation's product, a pharmaceutical corporation granted legal indemnity against litigation by the federal government of the United States. No one will ever answer for their deaths, and people like you do not give a shit that they are dead or why.
>From news stations.
Regurgitated by news stations on behalf of the corporation funding them.
>Retard the article is from 2021.
I see you have the same damaged memory as everyone else when it comes to when the pandemic started.
>every single negative reaction to the vaccine is something covid itself can also cause
What an incredibly unscientific thing to say.
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>>1366807
>somehow this doesn't apply to you though?
Do you see me making comments about the potential consequences of uncapped mRNA being taken up by the body's cells, or consumed by the immune system's defense mechanisms? Nope. Though I am eager to see future discoveries regarding that topic.
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>>1366171
What have Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney even done?
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>>1366911
Guess we'll find out soon enough.
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>>1366911
>>1366973
Reminder: A Presidential Pardon doesn't exempt someone from being sued for damages by the Department of Justice.



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