Turns out the Tesla exploding was intentional. I guess trump detractors are so upset at losing everything they are literally exploding themselves in Teslas in front of trumps properties as some weird form of protest or something https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tesla-cybertruck-appears-burst-flames-trump-hotel-las-vegas-rcna185932Deadly Tesla Cybertruck blast outside Trump hotel in Las Vegas was intentional, officials sayThe suspicious blast is being investigated as a possible terrorist attack, three senior law enforcement members briefed on the matter told NBC News.
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>>1372099fpbpOf course it was intentional. It was full of fucking fireworks and blew up on Trump's doorstep lol
>>1372099I read a lot of people were initially blaming this on the quality of Musks vehicles
>>1372100So the whole "he was just trying to go camping" theory went up in smoke I guess
>>1372104Well he's military so he was camping, just not that kind of camping. I love the note about it being investigated as a "possible terrorist attack". If the guy's name was Mohammed it would be TERRORIST OMG but it's a white German dude so everyone's scratching their chins. This spin from this is going to be so fun to watch.>>1372102
>>1372105If the white dudes cyber truck had a homemade isis flag being flown from it was well and had social media posts about murdering Americans for isis, I'm sure terrorism would have been confirmed a lot earlier here.They simply haven't found evidence of political motivation yet, other than the facts surrounding the event which is someone blew up a cyber truck in front of trumps hotel
>>1372106That's the point I'm making. When it's a brown dude it gets called terrorism instantly and assumes it was politically motivated. When it's a white dude who explodes a truck full of fireworks on the doorstep of the incoming president everyone says dumb shit like "They simply haven't found evidence of political motivation yet" as if it's a real mystery. The dichotomy is just too funny.
>>1372108This guy planned on driving through the front window but blowed himself up accidentally before he could.
>>1372108>When it's a brown dude it gets called terrorism instantlyThe brown dude was flying an isis flag and had posts about killing Americans to support isis on social media. The white guy was not. They have not yet found evidence of this political motivation. Maybe the dude was just suicidal and wanted to be on the news.
>>1372097>Turns out the Tesla exploding was intentional.This is conclusory, but what facts is it based on?
>>1372115Musk said it wasn't a malfunction and was caused by a bomb of some kind. So unless he was driving his rental Tesla packed with bombs and fireworks around Trump's house just for fun then it's easy to assume it was intentional.
>>1372115The lvpd said they had the detonator during a press briefing.
>>1372117>>1372118My only thing is there's so much about this that doesn't make sense (army vet who doesn't know how to rig a proper bomb, fireworks, the fact it was a suicide bombing yet he fucking stood in the car out front instead of driving into the building) that makes me think it's entirely possible Musk bribed someone to make it look like a bomb instead of an accident.If corporate america is willing to murder whistleblowers and frame it as a suicide to cover up cut corners that killed people, I'd imagine they'd bribe some officials to make a car battery explosion look like a bombing too.
>>1372120>>1372120You would still have to ask yourself why when he lives in Colorado or whatever why the fuck he chose to use his vacation time to rent a robo car, fill it at least with a retarded amount of fireworks and drive to Las Vegas? My guess is his intention was to drive right through the hotel and blow up inside but the car wouldn't let him actually do that so he did it outside instead.
>>1372120>My only thing is there's so much about this that doesn't make sense (army vet who doesn't know how to rig a proper bomb, fireworks, the fact it was a suicide bombing yet he fucking stood in the car out front instead of driving into the building) that makes me think it's entirely possible Musk bribed someone to make it look like a bomb instead of an accident.Did you read this on raw story or blue sky?Paranoid schizophrenia is a hell of a disease
>>1372121>>1372123It's not like these things don't have a history of suddenly catching fire.>https://www.fox7austin.com/news/cybertruck-fire-texas-driver>https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/12/31/cybertruck-catches-fire-dekalb-county-tesla-dealership/A lot about this case is fucking weird either way. Apparently he was a massive Trump supporter but decided to bomb a Trump building. And if he was going to bomb a building, why pick a car that wouldn't let him drive through it? Even if it is a bombing, that itself doesn't explain why the fireworks from someone who very much would've had the training to rig up a real bomb with those same materials.
>>1372125>It's not like these things don't have a history of suddenly catching fire.>https://www.fox7austin.com/news/cybertruck-fire-texas-driver>Cybertruck catches fire, driver killed after Southeast Texas crashAnon, it was in a fucking crash. Is there any make car you know of that has never had a crash result in a fire?
>>1372125>Apparently he was a massive Trump supporterI read this on mastodon too
>>1372125>And if he was going to bomb a building, why pick a car that wouldn't let him drive through itMaybe because he knew idiots like you after seeing a car bomb detonate in a Tesla would just be like "oh, lol, that's normal"
>>1372120>it's entirely possible Musk bribed someone to make it look likWell, there's another leftist schizo conspiracy theory shot down>https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5063907-matthew-livelsberger-las-vegas-suspect-tesla-cybertruck-trump-hotel-explosion/>Las Vegas suspect suffered gunshot wound to head prior to explosion, police say
>>1372126The thing went into a ditch and burned down to the frame. Crashes result in fires all the time, but not that bad and that quickly.There's also the one that just randomly self destructed in the dealership.
>>1372163If he's going to shoot himself and bomb a building, why not just ram the car into it? Again, weird case either way.
>>1372168>If he's going to shoot himself and bomb a building, why not just ram the car into it?Bro hes probably angry trump won. He's not a rational person.Why do this at all??
>>1372097time for tesla to go after the social media outlets that radicalized this cunt into doing this. My guess is reddit and facebook.
>>1372178Honestly, democrats are leaving a huge mess for trump to clean up, not even kidding.The border and illegal immigration are in shambles. Homelessness spiked 20% this last year. Inflation is up 25% over biden's term. Left wing nut jobs keep trying to assassinate people. This dude probably wasn't left wing, but he was so radicalized by the left he literally car bombed himself to prove some sort of point. The left wing media and social circles are literally driving this country into the ground and radicalizing droves of people to plot assassinations and terror attacks
The poster above me shits in the streets.
>>1372194No, I'm not a homeless democrat living in a tent behind Starbucks
>>1372172He was a massive Trump supporter, according to his family. Another weird ass part of this case.Maybe he really didn't like the H1B1 backstab?
>>1372207>He was a massive Trump supporter, according to his familySource?
>>1372210>https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/cybertruck-explosion-suspect-matthew-livelsberger-vegas-b2672940.htmlThey interviewed his uncle.
>>1372100>Of course it was intentionalY'never know. Coulda been some unintended fuckup. It seems survivable, if implimented slightly differently, so the fact the driver persihed too raises questionability to intent. >>1372105Also have to question 'terrorism'. Filled with fireworks is gonna get attention but it's unlikely to feature in the top 10 scaryiest things experienced for most folk. Sure, the self execution points strongly to 'fuckweasle' but if wanted terror you'd be trying to harm more people ... You'd pick a time when the place is packed. Mow a few down on the way through. You'd get the car inside the building where the lithium fumes can concentrate better, and where the flames might cause damage. You'd wrap them tubs o propane/butane/whatever in steel cable, pinning screws and or nails to the exterior to maximise casualties. You'd also not pick somewhere like trump tower, you'd hit somewhere with tactical significance. You'd also unlikely be acting alone.A trump fan, a touch more deluded than the average example, pissed at being sold down the river, wanting to make a statement.... I can see that more than 'terrorism' .... >>1372112I can see this - but the vehicular angle is all wrong, to my eye. You also have to question the initial ignition. If that went off going up a kerb or whatever then they're lucky driving in traffic didn't do it. I can accept they're a dipshit and had a poorly set timer, or had detonators in place and primed before starting ... But from what I've seen it'd take manual igntion... As in, light fuse, that chains the rest.>>1372120>Musk bribed someone to make it look like a bomb instead of an accident.What of all the other fires? There was definitely things in there that wasn't batteries. I agree there's a lot that doesn't make "sense" - but then again, it doesn't *have* to. Not to someone capable of logical thought at least - just the deranged mind that concocted the scheme.
>>1372210Why don't you look yourself, or are you too stupid to know how to do a simple web search? Lazy & stupid. I'd guess. Maybe this MAGA loony did a self immolation to show how much he loved his dear leader, or most likely, it was disappointment and laziness at making a real bomb. In other words, this sucker & loser is almost as stupid as the dummy who can't do a web search.
>>1372117It was new years eve and a lot of people like to use fireworks for said holiday. I'm not really aware of anyone who uses fireworks for terrorism. Camping fuel is also not a bomb.>>1372118I just watched a press conference where the police said they don't know how the "detonation" occurred. Where are you getting your info?
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/02/us/matthew-alan-livelsberger-vegas-cybertruck-explosion/index.html> Zeroing in on a motive seemed complicated by the early portrait emerging of the Tesla’s driver, Matthew Alan Livelsberger, 37, of Colorado, who died in the incident that injured seven others.>A family member and former Army colleague described him as a highly-decorated combat veteran whose background in special forces and explosives seemed at odds with a blast which relied, in part, on fireworks.>And, they said, Livelsberger had a strong love of country – particularly the president-elect.>“When President Trump was in office (Livelsberger) would comment on his Facebook page about the things President Trump had said or done or how he’s helping the military,” the relative, who asked not to be named, told CNN. “Matt had a lot of respect for Mr. Trump – he just loved the guy.” Trumptards were wrong again, two for two. It was their own dude this time.
>>1372125>why pick a car that wouldn't let him drive through it?Where are you guys getting the idea that you can't drive a Tesla into a building? You can. Nothing about the vehicle design is going to stop it.
>>1372254>I'm not really aware of anyone who uses fireworks for terrorism. Camping fuel is also not a bomb.Ditto. But it will attract attention. There's also a lotta energy in them canisters, which released quickly does give a satisfying and attention grabbing 'boom'. I hear military training. Which suggests they should know there's a lotta energy in these canisters but unless it's directed functionally it's pretty much useless. But it also suggests that detonation shouldn't occur until planned.My money is he was intending to put it there n torch it - symbolic demonstration - and shit went pete tong. Prolly used a cell phone detonator and it got marketing spam text when whatever malware on his phone raped his contact list. Don't see no reason to perish in the attempt - this coulda been survivable....
>>1372255>they were still trying to piece together why a five-time Bronze Star recipient and new father would orchestrate the New Year’s Day blast.How are they wrong?They still don't know why he detonated the tesla.
>>1372255Honestly that doesn't disprove anything it just says they don't know About the only theory that's actually been disproven so far is the leftwing dipshit theory that he was going camping and his Tesla just happened to explode for no reason
>>1372246>Why don't you look yourselfThe likes of >>1372210 daren't, because proven facts destroy their retarded opinions.The fact that the driver of that Cybertruck loaded with explosives and setting such off in that location proves that white rightards are terrorists. No Exceptions. Just ask Timothy McVeigh. A strange way of protesting against abortions by ensuring 19 retroactive abortions.The white rightard protecting the future of the white race by eliminating at least one addition to the white race by murdering a white woman at Charlottesville: Trump saying the murderer was a 'good person' or would have condemned the white right.A proven fact: All white rightards are terrorists. No Exceptions.
>>1372274>>1372275>pretending this thread doesn't exist>>1371940
>>1372275What about the theory that Elon Musk had him shot in the back of the head, then put his body in a cyber truck loaded with a bomb and gave it remote commands to self-drive to the front of trump hotel, at which point it was detonated?
>>1372279Given the fact that the news is reporting they haven't yet been able to determine a motivation for him, that's not off the table. The only thing ruled out so far is the possibility of it being an accident
>>1372282You retards jumped to the conclusion that it was some radical leftist. And now you're trying to back pedal.
>>1372282>the possibility of it being an accidenTesla stocks will tank then. Muskrat ruined? Good.I'm just surprised that Nissan hasn't sponsored DankPods:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzHhU4EorOMHis electric car is ultra-reliable and hasn't had a single thing go wrong with it. I bet he hasn't needed a single software update to that built in 2017: if this sort of EV even needs them.I wonder how many people have gone to Nissan dealerships to buy a Leaf, taken out their phones, shown the dealer that vid and said 'DankPods sent me'.
>>1372280>>1372282>>1372285My main point is that they've found absolutely fuck all for motivation and the actual mechanics of the bomb make no sense. He was a massive Trump and Elon supporter but chose to target them each specifically. He was military but choose a loosely rigged up bunch of fireworks instead of an actual bomb. He shot himself in the car but didn't try to drive it through the building. A lot of it is just really fucking weird.I'm just saying, if people are willing to frame whistleblower murders as "suicides" to cover up the issues they were going to testify about, I'd imagine the richest man on earth would pay off authorities to write something off as an intentional bomb instead of shitty design. Including making up that there was a bullet in the guy's brain.
>>1372287So your theory is that he uncovered pics of Trump and Elon diddling kids or something else damaging. Then the maga deep state suicided this guy with two bullets to the head. And then Elon put him in a rented cybertruck and had it auto pilot itself outside trumps building and auto detonate, instead of ramming into the building because he didn't want to damage trumps property.
>>1372275>leftwing dipshit theory that he was going camping and his Tesla just happened to explode for no reasonI'm not in your political sphere at all. My first surmisation is something went wrong, and this is unplanned detonation. The largest evidence against the payload of fireworks is most would have detonated theirs a few hours previous. The choice of combustables is wrong - especially for what later turns out is someone who should be vaguely knowledgable - for 'terrorism'. Making a scene? All day long. Damage of a tactical asset? not so much. >>1372278>All white rightards are terrorists. No Exceptions.That's exactly the same rhetoric 'they' speak about 'the dems'. I can see much progress happening here.>>1372280>What about the theory that Elon Musk had him shot in the back of the headEvidenced, how? Forensics on the body and vehicle unlikely to support 'back of head' from rumours I'm hearing. I'm hearing he shot himself on scene. If true, entry/exit angle and corrosponding damage to vehicle will confirm. As for the self-drive - It's not unbelievable to rm -rf logs or adjust their content after the fact to indicate something else but it'd generate a lot of data and metadata through third parties ferrying the data to mothership in the first palce... Ultimately, what motivation would musk have to do this to him, specifically?>pay off authorities to write something off as an intentional bomb instead of shitty design. Including making up that there was a bullet in the guy's brain.What of the other 'incidents' involving tesla vehicles? Why go thru all the effort over this one?There was definitely more than lithium batteries in the vehicle, it's payload and place of detonation is suspect within itself, but intentional bomb is an odd choice. Maybe if it was a roadrunner cartoon a handfull of fireworks and a couple o tanks of propane would make sense as 'bomb'.
>>1372290>couple o tanks of propanePretty sure it had exactly this Isn't that "camping fuel"?
>>1372289My theory is it was an accident and Musk bribed officials into saying it was a bomb and then adding he shot himself in the head when people pointed out it didn't make any sense to stay in the car.Like the whole "uh actually he shot himself" thing is so fucking suspect. No one in the vicinity heard and reported that?
>>1372290>It's not unbelievable to rm -rf logs or adjust their content after the fact to indicate something else but it'd generate a lot of data and metadata through third parties ferrying the data to mothership in the first palce...But the logs are stored on a USB drive in the vehicle. The explosion was big enough to destroy both the USB drive and the cloud logs
>>1372291>Isn't that "camping fuel"?Some may call it this. It might of been butane, but whatever it was, it was something of this ilk. >>1372293>The explosion was big enough to destroy both the USB drive and the cloud logsUm. Whut? "logs" to USB, AFAIK, are only for 'sentry mode' and it's network connection to mothership pushes realtime telemetry. What makes you think an explosion and fire that cannot even destroy the vehicle that contained it would be able to damage a datacenter in another state?
>>1372268>Don't see no reason to perish in the attempt - this coulda been survivable....Well he shot himself in the head just before the bomb went off so it doesn't seem like he wanted to survive it.
>>1372299Ok sure let's take your crackpot theory for a spin and assume the explosion didn't destroy the cloud logs and musk was telling the truth that he has them safe. Why wouldn't he share these to prove that he didn't auto drive the Tesla car bomb up to trump tower? This doesn't make sense. Musk must have rigged the cloud logs to detonate with the Tesla to hide his crimes.
>>1372301What if it was some trump tard set up to die in order to make some liberal terrorist false flag event? It'd be stupid easy to lure a trump tard into a death trap, especially one from the military. Then they off him like Lenny in Of Mice and Men, pack his body into a cybertruck, then tell it to drive to Trump tower.
>>1372318That's what I'm saying. That's why Elon Musk detonated the cloud logs as well
>>1372318or you could just admit you're trumpfags, therefore your ranks are full of violent apes
>>1372329No I'm a proud libtard.
>>1372331oh yeah. you're liars too
>>1372332I'm just speaking for myself here. And I'm just having fun theorizing conspiracy theories. You can trust me, fellow libtard.
>>1372105>>1372106>>1372108>samefagging this hard
>>1372332>you're liars tooIt's obvious we won just based on rally size. Look, here's want I want to do. I just want to find 11780 votes, which is only 1 more than we need.
>>1372337You've posted this 12 times in the last 30 days: https://archive.palanq.win/news/search/text/I%20just%20want%20to%20find%2011780%20votes/
>>1372340i guess he doesn't want you to forget that time trump tried to steal the election
>>1372301>and assume the explosion didn't destroy the cloud logThere is no assumption. Are you really that clueless about how anything actually works?You write a number on a piece of paper and leave that paper on the other side of the country, then go home and torch your house. No matter how thoroughly you destroy the house that piece of paper remains unharmed. Do what you want to the vehicle, the data is *already* in mothership. On the other side of the country. >musk was telling the truth that he has them safe.Be a pretty stupid thing to lie about, forensic audits tend to result in hardware confiscation. Even if limited to data storage and relevant parts of the backups, that's data typically not wanted to leave company premesis.>Why wouldn't he share these to prove that he didn't auto drive the Tesla car bomb up to trump tower? This doesn't make sense.Your right. It doesn't make sense. Why would he share this data with random third parties? Have you even requested this data? What of the third parties that will hold the metadata for the data's transport to mothership? Asked them for that so you can confirm by time-of-flight the entries into said logs? Lets say he does - you able to spot the difference between the headlights and the power steering talking on the CAN bus?You wanna know really what don't make sense? Why would musk have such an issue with *this* guy in particular?> Musk must have rigged the cloud logs to detonate with the Tesla to hide his crimes.Must he? There's many other possibles. And they're all more likely. What crimes would he attempt to cover up with a big loud 'bang' in a public place followed by fireworks?As for deleting the logs, their absence would be remarkably suspicious and minimally obstruction. Editing the logs is technically feasible, but would need 3'rd party metadata to pass even a casual analysis and a touch more cunning for clearing competent forensic analysis.
>>1372341I think asking for someone to ensure all votes were counted is pretty benign
>>1372097>His manifesto got released and implies he did this because he was so pissed about the h1b1 backstabA disgruntled Trump supporter is going to try and kill Trump and/or Musk in the next few months. Calling it now.
>>1372361>implies he did this because he was so pissed about the h1b1 backstabOkay, then. How did they imagine this would change anything?It's a statement, sure. But what is it gonna make people that matter in these descisions do? Apart from raise their eyebrow and shake their head sadly... For someone with supposed military training that's a really ineffective use of resources. >A disgruntled Trump supporter is going to try and kill Trump and/or Musk in the next few monthsNegative impacts will take a little longer than a few months - and they've already started. Once the actual hardship arrives as direct consequence to policies then it's almost inevitable for disorder, it's just about if it's at an individual scale...
>>1372361What, again?
>>1372400Well, you gotta expect that eventually they'll figure out they've been sold down the river. It then becomes a question of how long it'll take 'em to realise.The smarter cookies in this jar have already begun to notice. It's a big jar tho, and some of the denser offerings may require significant hardship for reality to be made abundantly clear. Then they'll have to decide if they'll bend over n take it, or do something.
>tfw you try to bash Trump supporters but all of your analogies revolve around cookies and gay sex
>>1372340>good post>I'm ouTraged, i OuGht to ApolOgize
>>1372097>I guess trump detractors are so upset at losing everything they are literally exploding themselves in Teslas in front of trumps properties as some weird form of protest or somethingIs this the broken logic that you people use to claim the two people that tried to assassinate Trump were Trump supporters? Does it not hurt to twist yourself into a pretzel to try and reach that deranged conclusion?
>>1372361Let me guess, this "trump supporter" will also be an Act Blue donator, right? Those are typically right wingers, just like the previous assassins.
