https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/apple-agrees-to-pay-95m-delete-private-conversations-siri-recorded/Apple has agreed to pay $95 million to settle a lawsuit alleging that its voice assistant Siri routinely recorded private conversations that were then sold to third parties for targeted ads.In the proposed class-action settlement—which comes after five years of litigation—Apple admitted to no wrongdoing. Instead, the settlement refers to "unintentional" Siri activations that occurred after the "Hey, Siri" feature was introduced in 2014, where recordings were apparently prompted without users ever saying the trigger words, "Hey, Siri."Sometimes Siri would be inadvertently activated, a whistleblower told The Guardian, when an Apple Watch was raised and speech was detected. The only clue that users seemingly had of Siri's alleged spying was eerily accurate targeted ads that appeared after they had just been talking about specific items like Air Jordans or brands like Olive Garden, Reuters noted.It's currently unknown how many customers were affected, but if the settlement is approved, the tech giant has offered up to $20 per Siri-enabled device for any customers who made purchases between September 17, 2014, and December 31, 2024. That includes iPhones, iPads, Apple Watches, MacBooks, HomePods, iPod touches, and Apple TVs, the settlement agreement noted. Each customer can submit claims for up to five devices.
>>1372134>we've been recording you secretly and using that data to do all kinds of bullshit>Here's 20 bucks, be happy and keep buying Apple products
>>1372134Pretty fucking obviousI've had instances where Ive been talking about housing interest rates with my wife's phone out and she will start getting emails about refinancing.It's not just the voice recording they are selling its your personal information and email as well
>>1372134>the tech giant has offered up to $20 per Siri-enabled device for any customers who made purchases between September 17, 2014, and December 31, 2024Fucking peanuts.
NSA's back door is still recording you if it picks up kept words,like bomb, assassinate, drugs, weapons, freedom etc.
>>1372134>$95 million settlement>$20who agrees to these fucking settlements? is this like the opioid one where the roastie lawyer was obviously taking kickbacks?
>>1372134didn't they find this out a long time ago? Was Apple still doing it?this is from 2019:https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/07/siri-records-fights-doctors-appointments-and-sex-and-contractors-hear-it/
>>1372157Very unlikely. You're talkin' of something that exists above 'crapple' so it'd have a wider reach but lets look at this being device level logically. How many crapple devices in the ecosystem? How many false positives, per day, would that generate?What folks like the NSA need is "targetted access" - they decide they want 'in' on a device they know belongs to someone they're interested in. This is a lot easier to keep undisclosed, and only generates data your interested in. There may be hardware based backdoors - think the ARM chips themselves, the network controllers, etc - but to protect these everything I've seen is software based. Bulk intercept at the backbone nodes - whored out to companies like Akamai Technologies - with specific devices throwin extra data almost directly to 'em.Also, simple keyword matching is was old hat in the 90's. Incidently this is what's driving the push for "AI" on everything. By putting "AI" on the CMOS sensor itself, for example, as the photons hit it and they're processed into an image the facial recognition fingerprinting et al has already happened at the same time. Edge processing - put the processing on the edge of the network (ie: make the victim abuse themselves) and then you only needa crunch a fingerprint which can transfer incognito in network beacon frames, or hidden in other traffic. And it's not as if dipshits bother to think about where they're pointing the camera. All you needa do is walk past someone with their phone to their ear and you're gettin' fingerprinted. Don't even need to on a 'tardphone.Siri itself is a risk, it's processing abilities are low so every fail hands off a recording to a third party in a call center. Siri isn't the only offender in this marketspace. There's many false positives in it's activation of recording - likely postured as to prevent false negatives in activation, which from a technical standpoint is feasible.
>>1372177Cell carriers are required to hold metadata. You'll likely notice data traffic across the cellular network split at their consolidation gateway and cloned off to the debogon project on the west coast of Oz. Everything else that happens to your traffic is just your ISP being a dick.
>>1372157We should be using BOMBs to ASSASSINATE distributors of DRUGS and illegal WEAPONS (for FREEDOM of course)
>>1372320>Room641aI'm not talking Room641a, that was 'revealed' after Akamai had alread picked up the intercept ropes on a more global scale. Think that room, but the size of a datacenter and just for 'mobile comms'. I'm talking all firms traffic cloned at the gateway. On it's way out of their internal network. One light source out of the gateway » splitter » one light sent InternetOne light sent debogon. Or it was last I was lookin' at traffic flow. Splitter might be just behind the gateway, as in before it leaves, it's difficult to tell - but I'm putting my money on just in front. Makes more sense.
>>1372137Apple users don't care about this even if you told them all the implications. Apple users do not even skip ads when they have the option to. They see it as a break.
