Things reached a head during the Biden administration's vaccine rollout, according to the Meta chief, who said while he agreed that the vaccines had more positive than negatives, the Biden administration "also tried to censor anyone who is basically arguing against it." He said while he was not directly involved in those conversations, the administration began pressuring Meta "super hard" to take certain posts down.

He also slammed Biden for asserting that social media companies were directly "killing people" by allowing COVID misinformation to spread. Biden later walked back those remarks. But it was too late, in Zuckerberg's telling. Shortly after the president made that comment, different government agencies started coming after the tech company with "brutal" investigations, Meta's chief said.

Zuckerberg also revealed there was one particular meme that the Biden administration wanted Meta to censor.

"They want us to take down this meme of Leonardo DiCaprio looking at a TV, talking about how 10 years from now or something, you're gonna see an ad that says, 'Okay, if you took a Covid vaccine, you are eligible for this kind of payment.' So, this sort of like class action lawsuit type meme," Zuckerberg told Rogan. "[The Biden administration was] like, 'No, you have to take that down.' And we just said, 'No, we're not gonna take down humor and satire.'"

Zuckerberg told Rogan: "They pushed us super hard to take down things that were honestly, were true, right? I mean they basically pushed us and to, and said, 'You know, anything that says that vaccines might have side effects, you basically need to take down.' And I was just like, 'Well, we're not gonna do that. Like, we're clearly not gonna do that.'"

President Biden clarified his "killing people" remarks in July 2021 to reporters: "Facebook isn't killing people – these 12 people are out there giving misinformation. Anyone listening to it is getting hurt by it. It's killing people. It's bad information."

>>1373772
>Surely this has nothing to do with the 1 million we just paid to the incoming Trump admin and me personally meeting with Trump yesterday
Bent the knee.

>>1373780
>Surely this has nothing to do with the 1 million we just paid to the incoming Trump admin and me personally meeting with Trump yesterday
No, it probably has a lot to do with that fact.
Did you read the article? The Biden admin was launching investigations against meta when they wouldn't remove memes, and having their officials call up meta employees cursing them out for not censoring Americans.
I bet you they are very closely related. Maybe even causally related

>>1373772
>https://days.to/until/20-january
9 days until the authoritarian party looses control of every branch of government

>>1373782
I'm sure what Zuck is saying now is not influenced at all by the fact he just had to pay Trump 1 million and the meeting they had the day prior. Obviously Zuck would never lie and Trump would have no reason to have people badmouth the Biden admin for "lawfare" after he actually had to sit in court.

The same reason why obviously Bezos had no reason to give Trump 1 million and then start killing NYT articles critical of him.

>>1373784
>9 days until
Nothing you wanted to happen, happens, and everything you wanted to happen doesn't.

Enjoy. I've got my popcorn and I've already started mocking.

>>1373786
Lmao. It was widely reported that biden's admin was doing the exact same thing over at Twitter. Not sure why you think Zuckerberg is making it up for meta

>>1373789
Yeah and I truly believe Musk as well. It's not like he said over and over again he was anti-censorship until he got caught complying to foreign government demands behind everyone's backs and then backtracked to say "uh, well, would you rather everything get censored? I had to censor those posts".

Oh wait.

>>1373788
>I've already started mocking
It's all you have it this point, you have nothing else in your court. Except popcorn, apparently, but nothing that actually matters.
Enjoy your popcorn.

>>1373790
I care *much* less about an individual platform choosing to censor according to their own leadership vs every national social media company being coerced to censor conversation because of the current government.
Let that sink in, maybe consider it a while over a bowl of popcorn

>>1373792
Anon what part of "he complied to foreign government censorship requests" do you not understand? He's doing the exact same thing he claims to resist so hard, just behind your back.

The fact you're willing to believe anything these billionaire shitheads say after they already donated their pound of flesh to the Trump "inauguration fund" (read: tribute fund) is insane. They'll say whatever Trump wants them to say in exchange for tax breaks and preferential treatment.

>>1373792
Anon Trump isn't even in power yet and Musk already went on a censorship spree for anyone speaking out against their H1B1 plans.

>>1373791
>nothing else in your court. Except popcorn, apparently, but nothing that actually matters.
I've got everything in my court.
Popcorn is just to snack on whilst I watch the rekt thread that is your country unfold. It's f'kin hilarious.

Each time I think you dumb cunts can't do anything stupider, you go and prove me wrong.

>>1373790
>>1373786
Zuckerberg in 2020 set up a bunch of ballot drop boxes in majority blue neighborhoods all across the country to help out the democrats.
Why would he suddenly switch? Sounds like he was unhappy with how Democrats were leading the nation as well.
Maybe their abuse of power targeting social media to censor free speech played a hand in that, considering Zuckerberg owns a social media company, no?

>>1373796
>oh fuck it's another foreigner getting involved in US politics
Go away already

>>1373798
>another foreigner getting involved in US politics
I've no desire to get involved. I'm taking no responsibiltiy for this shit show. I'm just here to point and laugh.

>Go away already
Make me. Oh, wait, you can't, because you're almost as fat as you are impotent.

>>1373800
Wow mr tough guy online. You must the king of the 'cord

>>1373801
It's not about 'me being tough'

It's about you being impotent.
And fat.
And stupid.
Whilst thinking you're competent and clever.

>>1373797
More like Zuckerberg is bending the knee to avoid retaliation.

>>1373772
I wonder how long this thread will stay up before another faggot /news/ mod deletes it like the last five. God forbid anyone calls out democrats for their bullshit on this site.

>>1373809
>>>/pol/

>>1373810
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T REPORT THE NEWS ON /NEWS/ ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MAKES ME LOOK BAD

>>1373812
Are the democrats in the room now?

>>1373772
If Mr. Zuckerberg is being truthful, he should release evidence of his claims. It's difficult to accept anything he says at face value, given his history.

>>1373772
Reminder that Zuckerberg also said he had no idea what the CFPB was in this same interview despite having literally spent an entire year testifying before them for stealing customer data.

Forgive me if I take everything he says with a grain of fucking salt.

>>1373825
>>1373820
It's amazing the lengths you people will go to trying to deny what was already widely reported by journalists with Twitter and which we all either 1. Experienced 2. Witnessed or 3. Was around when people had it happen to them

>>1373827
The twitter files had literally nothing. Just "oh sometimes they'd ask us to take down blatant disinformation lol"

Meanwhile right now anything critical of Musk-sama is destroyed immediately.

>>1373829
>The twitter files had literally nothing. Just "oh sometimes they'd ask us to take down blatant disinformation lol"
How are you so misled? It shows the same stuff Zuckerberg talked about such as Biden officials demanding memes or satire be removed under the guise of 'violating community guidelines'. They were literally policing Twitter

>>1373831
No it didn't lol. Even Matt Taibbi found no government involvement in their decisions around the 2020 election or the Hunter laptop story. Twitter's own attorneys denied in court that the government had asked them to censor shit.

Meanwhile Musk openly admits to censoring accounts at the behest of foreign governments, and actively censors anything against the Trump admin now.

>>1373834
>Matt Taibbi found no government involvement in their decisions around the 2020 election or the Hunter laptop story.
It's hard to claim the government had no involvement in the hunter laptop story when dozens of intelligence officials penned an open letter lying that the laptop was fake.

>>1373835
>dozens of intelligence officials penned an open letter lying that the laptop was fake.
The copy being passed around was fake, or at least it didn't match the version they actually had. Ask the magical blind laptop repairman how that happened.

>>1373836
>>1373836
>The copy being passed around was fake
The "copy" had been booted and this was neither fake nor forensically sound.
The "laptop" was validated as authentic by the FBI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy
>In December 2019, under the authority of a subpoena issued by a Wilmington grand jury, the FBI seized the laptop from Mac Isaac.[1][11][12] FBI investigators handling Hunter Biden's laptop quickly concluded in 2019 "that the laptop was genuinely his and did not seem to have been tampered with or manipulated".[13][14] In June 2024, federal prosecutors utilized the laptop as evidence as part of a criminal case against Hunter Biden, alongside testimony from an FBI agent involved in authenticating and investigating the laptop.[15]

So yes, the government did have involvement in the hunter laptop story when dozens of intelligence officials penned an open letter lying that it was fake

>>1373841
Physical laptop yes. The copy no.

Also, not on twitter as twitter and the guy releasing the twitter files testified.

>>1373843
Nobody claimed there was a specific government action against Twitter regarding the laptop story except yourself when you said it didn't happen.

The government did in fact interfere with both the laptop story AND twitters decisions to ban users, just not both at the same time.

>>1373834
You're a retarded shill. There were multiple FBI agents working at Twitter full time when Musk bought it. Somehow that was just glossed over and no one made a big deal about it. Their job wasn't stopping anything illegal, because that stayed up.Their job was propaganda

>>1373780
>>1373790
Bezos, Puckerberg have a new shade of lipstick , tRump brown. Musky got in on the ground floor, and now tRump's orange faced patina has taken on a new shade also: MUSK BROWN
Wooo wooo woooo, I murderized 'em, did I not Moe?

>>1373850
Nobody like Biden or Democrats anymore. Deal with it.

>>1373772
>Elongated Muskrat denies Groypers of the right to have opinions on Xitter
>Elongated Muskrat denies people of the right to have opinions in Brazil: by admitting his own opinions are wrong
Republicans are despots and censor open dialog online. Biden and Democrats can never do anything wrong. Ever

>>1373873
>Elongated Muskrat
You really think that's appropriate? He's not really that tall.
Woulda said 'greater bellied muskrat' mesself.

>>1373873
Additionally, both side o that coin are equally bad for the censorship game. It's not a blue/red thing, it's a control thing. It's spawned from the type of mind that seeks to limit the information possible to absorb in order to manipulate the outcome.

>>1373885
look at this fucking retard doing a "muh both sides" in 2025 my god you are a low iq retard

>>1373916
Prove to me that one side is obstensibly 'worse' at this than the other, and I might consider adjusting my opinion.

2025 doesn't matter any. This is an ancient problem. You didn't solve it then, you can't expect it to be solved now.

Which retard has the lower IQ, the one that spots both sides throwing the same shit, or the one that has self filter--bubbled so they only see one side throwing shit?

>>1373854
No one liked them before. The left just tolerates them because the alternative is an orange buffoon and his christo-fascist buddies

>>1373927
>Prove to me that one side is obstensibly 'worse' at this than the other, and I might consider adjusting my opinion
Biden administration tried to start an entire government agency dedicated to this sort of propaganda.

>>1373933
>No one liked them before
Agreed, nobody likes Democrats, but people do like trump. Guess that's why Democrats lost control of every branch of government back in November

>>1373948
it's mostly proof that americans are fed a diet of propaganda from billionaires and vote against their own interests

>>1373948
Kind of. Left wing apathy/complacency lost 2024. People just didn't show up like they did for 2020.

>>1373943
>Biden administration tried to start
And trump hasn't already indicated intent to create a similar propaganda tool?

>>1373772
Absolutely no difference between this administration and the last. Zuck admits as such.

>>1373772
Never forget the twitter files.
Specifically the part that revealed that Trump participated in twitter censorship when he was president.

>>1373959
No

Been saying it for years, but we must ban all leftist thought and all resistance to us. A nation can only exist and thrive if there is a universal truth, like an Odysseus's ship may only traverse the Aegean Sea if every one of his crew are rowing in the same direction. Liberalism has no right to exist in political thought. Nick Land and Alfred Rosenberg write extensively about this, about how leftist use democracy and the so-called enlightenment as a shield to slip in their societal poison. Therefor, Trump must outlaw all opposition to him, starting with the democrat party, then the RINOs, then anybody else who tries to sabatoge the ship of state. He'll have the support of the American people to do so. They're sick of this too. They are disillusioned with this illusion of freedom (an impossibility in a functioning society) and see in Trump the benevolent philosopher king that Plato first postulated would be the ideal ruler of a society.

>>1373956
And that was all Biden's fault. The geriatric barely used the bully pulpit, probably because he was basically braindead by the end of his first year in office. Him, Clinton, Garland, and many other feckless politicians and beauracrats is what the democrats get for all this
>IT WAS HIS/HER TURN
>BORING IS GOOD, WE DON'T NEED CHARISMA
bullshit. Say what you will about Republicans and Trump, but they know how to pound the pulpit and elevate based on effectiveness instead of seniority.

>>1373989
Educate yourself.

has donald trump stated he intends to create a state-funded media network

GPT-4o mini
Yes, Donald Trump has expressed interest in creating a state-funded media network. In various statements and interviews, he has suggested the idea of establishing a media outlet that would promote his views and counter what he perceives as bias in mainstream media. However, the specifics of such a plan, including its feasibility and implementation, have not been fully detailed. For the most accurate and up-to-date information, it's best to refer to reputable news sources or official statements from Trump or his representatives.

>>1373995
>but they know how to pound the pulpit and elevate based on effectiveness
As demonstrated by backpeddling on pretty much every campaign pledge? Or by being pretty ineffective the last time he spent most of the time playing golf?

>>1373997

>>1373997
>As demonstrated by backpeddling on pretty much every campaign pledge?
Their voters are more enthusiastic than ever. Their ability to policy swap without suffering any blowback is proof positive of the Republican's effectiveness. Either their voters swap their own priorities overnight (see the anti-war people now saying we must take Greenland's rare Earth minerals by force if necessary before China does), or they just ignore the swerve.

>>1373996
Wow no wonder you are dumb. You don't even think for yourself anymore.

>>1373999
>Their voters are more enthusiastic than ever. Their ability to policy swap without suffering any blowback is proof positive of the Republican's effectiveness.
No. It's proof positive of a completely retarded voter base.

>Either their voters swap their own priorities overnight (see the anti-war people now saying we must take Greenland's rare Earth minerals by force if necessary before China does), or they just ignore the swerve.
China has no need to 'take greenland' and would be as equally spasticated to attempt it as you. You need to take it because you've fucked yourself up the arse with trying to buy these same rare earths from china - as they have the greatest supply and refinement infrastructure operational - to the point it's now cheaper to buy a country that isn't for sale.

You seriously isn't gonna take it. Might wanna look how the use of drones in ukraine is adjusting the shape of warfare, then consider how you're going to get troop transports through the waves of drone swarms... Things like battleships and aircraft carriers getting sunk by a few k of drone will rapidly become your experiences. Consider that most UUV varients are essentially "AI torpedo".

The ones 'ignoring the swerve' are rolling their eyes at how bad you're making them look.

>>1373996
Btw, the reason you are dumb is not only because you are just a proxy to a LLM, but no, trump never has voiced his intention to create a government truth agency like Biden did.

Nice job talking about something that wasn't being discussed tho which was news media.

*NEWSFLASH*
you are retarded. Here is the "state run news media network" that chatgpt hallucinated:
>President Donald Trump said that he is considering creating a pro-state media site while speaking in Central Florida on Thursday.
"pro-state media site"
But LLMs really aren't something you should rely on for accuracy, you flaming retard

>>1373996
>Educate yourself
>Cites chatgpt
>It's wrong
You really are dumb

>>1374000
Do I fail to think, or do I just use a tool to retrieve the piece of data I didn't bother to comit to memory where to find?

Where as you consistently demonstrate a lack of capacity for cognitive function and revel in your ignorance somehow thinking this manifests as your superiourity.

>>1374001
>Might wanna look how the use of drones in ukraine is adjusting the shape of warfare, then consider how you're going to get troop transports through the waves of drone swarms...
Since when has rationality ever stopped autocrats? The invasion of Ukraine by Russia was as irrational as an invasion of Canada or Greenland by the US would be.

>>1374004
>Do I fail to think, or do I just use a tool to retrieve the piece of data I didn't bother to comit to memory where to find?
Both, actually.
And to top it all of you are still wrong.

>>1373996
>GPT-4o mini
Anon...

>>1374004
I'll be honest with you man. I work an engineer job with LLMs for a living. Their one and only job is to predict sequences of tokens that are statistically likely. They are not truthful. Even when you layer a RAG on top of them they make mistakes, like above, misinterpreting "pro-state media" as similar to "state-run media"

But hey, educate yourself.
“ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info.”

>>1374002
>because you are just a proxy to a LLM, but no, trump never has voiced his intention to create a government truth agency
I picked up that data from a trump speech he made himself. I just used the bot to evidence it.

That 'pro state media site' you mention had a specific remit of forwarding trump's rhetoric and 'countering disinformation' . Ie: state-fed propaganda.

The obvious next move is like in russia, this becomes the sole arbitrator of 'truth'. And dissenting outlets not toeing the line features consequences.

>But LLMs really aren't something you should rely on for accuracy, you flaming retard
When it aligns my memory perfectly, I think it's safe. But yes. It shouldn't be trusted.

>>1374003
>>It's wrong
So prove it. I remember him saying it, so good luck.

>>1374007
These are the retards that sperg out on "orange man" every day.
They tell other people to educate themselves while they copy and paste a lie from chatgpt and think it's real.
It's amazing they aren't homeless by now.

>>1374009
>I picked up that data from a trump speech he made himself. I just used the bot to evidence it.
Lmao! That's a lie. You copied your prompt into your original post you retard. You didn't take the data from a trump speech and ask chatgpt to summarize it. Lmao

>>1374009
>So prove it. I remember him saying it
Top fucking kek.
Your trolling now, right? Your statement is "I remember it, prove me wrong?"

I just did prove you wrong. He said "pro-state media" here's a source https://www.newsweek.com/trump-considering-launch-state-run-media-wants-start-our-own-network-1463042

How about you try proving yourself right instead of making yourself look dumber every time you post

>>1374009
>So prove it. I remember him saying it
anon... Nobody can prove to you that you are schizophrenic except yourself.

>>1374011
>You copied your prompt into your original post you retard.
I failed to note the time and date of the occurance. For some strange reason. My first search didn't produce any tangible results in the first few offerings so I threw it at tw@GPT which parroted pretty much what I remembered.

>>1374012
> Your statement is "I remember it, prove me wrong?"
No. It's "I remember it. Now prove that didn't happen".
>I just did prove you wrong. He said "pro-state media"
Ignoring the semantics between 'pro-state' and 'state-funded' (purdy sure he mentioned federal funding. He already has news networks.) this is set with a remit of forwarding his rhetoric and 'countering disinformation'. Ie: propaganda.

The next obvious move is like in russia this becomes the sole arbitrator of truth and dissenting outlets feature consequences.

>>1374013
If it's schozophernia, then how come independant third parties is able to reference the speech to which I refer? hint: It happened.

>>1374016
>I failed to note the time and date of the occurance. For some strange reason. My first search didn't produce any tangible results
Because it didn't happen the way you remembered it. No results should have been your first hint.
>If it's schozophernia, then how come independant third parties is able to reference the speech to which I refer
Retard, your "independent third party" is a fucking chatbot that has a disclaimer on it that says you should not trust its output and you should verify anything it says.

These are new levels of retardation I have yet to see on this board up until now, but here they are.
Take the L and move on.

>>1374016
>>1374016
The best part about your entire cope post about how you were wrong is that you began the post you were wrong in with the words "educate yourself" and then asked chat gpt and it just made something up. Literally what this anon was talking about here: >>1373903
>Welcome to Democrat gaslighting 101. They just accuse the other person of being uneducated or unintelligent. Then when you ask them to educate you, they go apeshit as they huff their own farts.

>>1374018
>Because it didn't happen the way you remembered it.
Explaining why tw@GPT's output, and the article linked by independant third party align my memory?
>No results should have been your first hint.
that algorithmical interference reduces the functionality of a search engine.
>Retard, your "independent third party" is a fucking chatbot that has a disclaimer on it that says you should not trust its output and you should verify anything it says.
And you instantly think I mean tw@GPT - and not the posters in this thread that returned a link referencing the speech?
That's a level of retardation I've come to expect from folk on your shore.

>>1374019
>then asked chat gpt and it just made something up
Which is independantly corroborated by a random third party in this very thread, linking to an article referencing the speech I referred to? Which confirms intent to create a state funded propaganda outlet? In the f'kin URL and article content?

>>1374020
Gee it got quiet in here all of a sudden. It's almost as if a bunch of overly vocal retards suddenly realised what a dipshit they is and are too much of a faggot to admit it and are sitting there hoping no-one notices the glaring evidence on their screens.

Democrats have always been evil.

>>1374023
Go back to facebook, boomer

>>1374023
>Republicans have always been evil
ftfy

>>1373772
I thought the Democrats were the good guys?

>>1374020
>Which is independantly corroborated by a random third party
Chatgpt is not a reliable independent third party.
As you found out.
Faggot.

>>1374020
>So much cope over being wrong
Keep huffing your farts. Mmmm. Was that broccoli?

>>1373772
>Joe Rogan interview

>>1374044
You can think?

>>1374057
Yes, an interview is when someone sits down with another individual and then answers their questions, often in either a public or recorded setting with the intention of sharing their viewpoints with others

>>1374059
The best part is you erroneously think Joe Rogan is a credible interviewer

>>1374059
>>1374060
Anyone with a decent amount of confidence could sit across from Rogan and say "You're gay" and he'd just go "wow, that's incredible. I can't believe this. You're speaking the absolute truth".

>>1374065
I'm pretty sure what you're describing happened during Rogan's interview with Dr. Phil.

>>1374031>>1374044
is the lie democrats have tried to peddle.
anyone with a brain and common sense knows democrat is the party is hypocrites liars and human traffickers

>>1374070
>>1374065
>>1374060
"Credible interviewer?"
What type of hot garbage is this, the interviewer isn't the one answering questions.

>>1374060
the funny part is democrats cocksuck reporters who support terrorism and discredit everyone else. Maybe you should just die. go ahead and bury your head in the sand more maybe if you suffocate you won't have to listen to facts

Democrats used to have a "left wing Joe Rogan" of sorts. There is a really popular podcaster/interviewer who was a huge Bernie Sanders supporter and a democrat for quite a while, but then when Democrats rigged the primary election against Bernie sanders, this "left wing Joe Rogan" style of interviewer decided he had had enough of the party and his opinions changed about them.
His name was Joe Rogan

>>1374075
why is cock on your mind so frequently

>>1374077
Who cares. He's not wrong.

>>1374077
srry i'm not gay that's a democrat thing. 2d traps are fine though

>>1374076
>Stops being a democrat
>Starts being led around like a retard by anyone who comes on his show and believes everything they say

I don't think this is making the point you think it is.

>>1373788
Yeah I mean in 8 days truly nothing changes, and I don't even have the will to reach for the popcorn. Not that I'm demoralized or pro LGBBQTIA++-- or demoncrat or republirat, I'm just tired of getting paid less and less, things getting more and more expensive, and no hope in sight for improvement, unless more Luigis pop up and start painting the town red with greasy CEO blood

>>1374083
democratic retard take given you suck up to news agencies that choose what you get to see vs an indepth interview where there's actual questioning

>>1374084
Huh, guess I am demoralized after all.

>>1374085
You mean "Joe Rogan agrees with whatever the dude says even if a basic google search will indicate he's full of shit".

>>1374087
which i'm sure you'll prove with examples right.

>>1374082
lol, ack yourself closeted FAGGOT

>>1374089
Literally watch the interview OP's article is about and you'll see Zuckerberg say he has no idea what the CFPB is despite having spent an entire day testifying before them in congress, after they sued him for stealing customer data.

>>1374091
retard democrat trying to spin it again. with generous misquotes

>>1374092
You can go through his actual internal communications and see they're nothing like he claimed in this. Zuckerberg lied out of his ass in this interview.
>https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24629641-jordan-subcommittee-report/

>>1374096
sorry but just like reddit i only accept the truth if it's spoonfed to me. so clearly you're just a communist bigot. Also you're probably misquoting whatever he said for your own benefits if its coming down to he doesn't know what CFPB means.

>>1374096
Hey chatgpt, could you provide some examples of what Zuckerberg said in the interview, and what he said in testimony that contradicted it along with page number I can verify the claim?
Dropping a 100 page congressional document about an investigation into the Biden administration and saying "see? Zuckerberg lied someone in here" may lead some to believe you could be wrong

>>1374098
>Also you're probably misquoting whatever he said for your own benefits
I find this the most likely possibility.
Someone as rich and powerful and crafty as Zuckerberg probably has teams of lawyers telling him what to say and how to say it, I don't think he's just doing the Trump strategy of just "say whatever comes to mind LOL"

>>1374100
Its pretty telling when his whole attack is MARK DOESNT KNOW WHAT CFPB stands for as if anyone knows every abbreviation. i'm willing to bet most democrats on the street won't know it either or what ICE stands for.

>>1374101
Honestly I don't even know what the conversation was about but Zuckerberg doesn't strike me as someone who would openly lie in front of Congress in a public forum with a lot of publicity going on because he's not an idiot, but he is crafty and sneaky. He definitely lies by omitting facts, or obscuring details, or choosing to vaguely word his statements but he just doesn't strike me as someone who would openly lie as such is being alleged.

I'm totally up to change my opinion though, I'm really curious if what anon posts is actual evidence of straight up lying or if it's just being purposely misconstrued that a way by people who just want to find fault

>>1374101
Retard he literally "oh, I thought it was financial institution, I don't know why they were looking into me", despite having spent a whole day testifying to them in congress for the specific reason that they're the agency in charge of protecting customers from having their data sold, because facebook was in-fact selling their customer's data to foreign brokers.

He knows exactly what they are and why they were looking into him. He's lying to make it seem like they're just another random dem committee because he wants to be able to keep illegally harvesting and selling data.

>>1374099
What happened to do your own research, retard?

>>1374107
you're literally arguing over whether he knows what the abbreviation stands for, Like when leftist retards attacked trump for not knowing what brexit stood for.

>>1374109
>you're literally arguing over whether he knows what the abbreviation stands for
No I'm fucking not. I'm arguing he said he doesn't know what they are or why they were after him, despite the fact he very clearly fucking does.
FULL. QUOTE:
>“We had organizations looking into us that weren’t even involved in Social Media. We had the CFPB looking after us. I didn’t even know what that is. It’s some financial institution that Elizabeth Warren set up. We’re not a bank, what does Meta have to do with this? They came up with some theory and were trying really hard to make it work.
He's blatantly lying that they had no reason to look into him and were outside jurisdiction.

>>1374110
you're an absolute retard CFPB handles consumer financial protection NOT privacy.
That's the Bureau of Consumer Protection.
what made you think the term FINANCIAL included personal information.
BCP is not CFPB

>>1374108
>Democrat gaslighting 101: Lemme give you 100 pages of documents I have never looked at and claim something is in it, in the hopes they just take my word for it and go away
Nope. You made the claim, I'm not going to spend time proving your argument. I'm actually fairly certain you just made it up at this point

>>1374045
>Chatgpt is not a reliable independent third party.
After several posts clearly stating I was referring to the independant third party posting in this thread, you decide that had to mean tw@GPT.

Retarded faggot.

>>1374046
Except I'm not wrong. He did state intent to start state funded propaganda. Very clearly. Someone that wasn't me even provided a link.

Retard.

And no. I wouldn't eat that. Try meat.

>>1374122
>He did state intent to start state funded propaganda. Very clearly. Someone that wasn't me even provided a link.
That was me that provided the link and here it is: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-considering-launch-state-run-media-wants-start-our-own-network-1463042
"Pro-state media"
The article also clearly states he did not state it would be funded by the state


Democrats are literally the number 1 source of misinformation right now.

>>1374123
>Democrats are literally the number 1 source of misinformation right now.
Bro you have no idea.
Gavin Newsom is crying to Biden that too many people are talking freely about the fires.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MI4uS4TTCSw

>>1374123
trump alone has lied more times than all prominent democrats combined

>>1374128
I don't care what you want to lie about
>>1374124
>>1374124
I saw a clip on /wsg/ a couple days ago with some lady in California in tears crying to newsome asking him to do something, while holding his cell phone up he said he's currently on the phone with President Biden asking for aid. The lady said she didn't believe him and asked him to put the president on speaker phone, at when point newsome admitted he wasn't really on the phone with the president.

I can share the clip if you're interested

>>1374130
>Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims, including during his first term as President of the United States. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his presidential term, an average of about 21 per day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump

>>1374131
>>1374128
I really don't care. I caught you in yet another lie and your response is "but the orange man"
I simply don't care, liar. You suffer from TDS and likely EDS as well.

>>1374132
enjoy the piss rain from your favorite billionaires

>>1374133
Now that you've been utterly defeated and you've given up, you're actually free to just go away and stop posting here rather than continuing to schizo post about "billionaires"

>>1373772
Did everyone forget who the president during the first half of Covid was? If the government was threatening Facebook during Covid, that would include Trump's admin as well.

I also find it funny that the same Republicans who complain about its so bad that the Democrats are supposedly threatening social media companies to comply or they'll arrest them while Trump does the same thing and they don't care:

>https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/31/politics/video/smr-trump-zuckerberg
>https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112756256184111025
>https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-mark-zuckerberg-threats-meta-political-content-changes-2025-1

>>1374134
i like calling you a stupid faggot though, that's my right anon

>>1374137
It definitely is your demonstrate that every democrat accusation is an admission

>>1374159
uh oh anon, your esl is showing

>>1374160
Lol. Ok. I missed a word on my phone.

>>1374160
How does it feel being so wrong about everything by the way? You make yourself look like a jackass at every turn and then just vigorously huff your farts trying to cope.

Tell me how that feels

>>1374136
>that would include Trump's admin as well
Trump was following the advice of the experts he hired to help him resolve the issue. Fauci was the most well-known one.
The authoritarian mandates came from the CDC and democrat leaders in blue states. It also came from the media, which was being used as a tool to combat "misinformation" and censor anybody who disagreed with the profits of shareholders. Most of which were democrats in congress.

Basically, the US government used your tax dollars to fund an experimental RNA treatment, shilled it as a vaccine (now called a prophylactic), and literally threatened to imprison anybody who disagreed with the mandates.

We know who said what. We know who is responsible for shutting down our businesses for public safety, while simultaneously letting rioters gather in large groups to burn homes to the ground. Who literally suggested putting us in quarantine camps and taking away our children because we were "plague rats".

You cunt. You shitbag fucknugget. You absolute waste of perfectly good semen. Fuck you.

>>1374162
how does it feel to be a paid shill? it can't be a very glorified occupation

>>1374164
>how does it feel to be a paid shill? it can't be a very glorified occupation
I don't know, and you're right you should consider another career

>>1374163
>You absolute waste of perfectly good semen
???

>>1374096
Hey still waiting for you to show me what statements from that document contradict a statement Zuckerberg said during his interview.
Think you could help me out with that chatgpt?

>>1374165
i've told you this before. i'm just here for fun because i enjoy calling you a useless, miserable faggot who gets paid to lie. what have i ever shilled? i never even post threads, they're all yours

>>1374169
>what have i ever shilled
I actually don't know because it's an anonymous image board. You could be the lying chatgpt fart huffer from earlier in this thread, but maybe not

As far as motivations for being here, mine sounds pretty similar to yours. Calling out miserable faggots who get paid to lie.

>>1374169
I have to add, it's a pretty fun pastime as well. Maybe you and I are on the opposite sides of the bleachers, but it sounds like we're enjoying the same ball game together

>>1374169
Cheers, btw

>>1374163
>Trump was following the advice of the experts he hired to help him resolve the issue
So Trump inherently has no issue with the government censoring and jailing people he deems as spreading misinformation? In fact, it's even worse because Trump will try to censor journalists who call him things like "pussy ass bitch" in addition to that.

>https://nypost.com/2023/02/08/trump-white-house-asked-twitter-to-censor-chrissy-teigen-tweet/

>>1374176
Friendly reminder Trump had a BLM member who had to shoot someone in self defense hunted down and killed instead of letting him go to trial.

>>1374163
This. On the money.

>>1374163
>Trump was just... le innocent mislead president
>Fauci was le evil vaccine man!

>>1374178
Oh shut the fuck up. Maybe if Michael Reinoehl wasn't fleeing from police with a gun on him he'd still be alive... But then again maybe if he didn't stalk and murder a Trump supporter he wouldn't have cops go after him in the first place... but then again he wouldn't be a democrat if he could keep himself from committing crimes.

>>1374178
>who had to shoot someone in self defense
Oh do go on. Elaborate.

>>1374179
that is your post you're replying to. you are correct

>>1374181
>trust the science, you conspiracy theorist!
>AHHHH THIS IS ALL TRUMP'S FAULT, DON'T BLAME BIDEN FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>1374189
>THIS IS ALL TRUMP'S FAULT
Yes, Trump started and condoned this behaviour. If you have a problem with it, you should blame him.

>>1374189
If you need to carve out specific exceptions in what actually happened to absolve your president of blame for things that happened under him, you either have to realize you don't want to even accept your own worldview, or, perhaps, you actually just got ragebaited.

>>1374178
Surely you have proof that trump ordered this execution?
Or when you say "trump had a BLM member shot" maybe you really mean "a BLM member shot someone and then didn't follow the instructions of law enforcement while fleeing with a hand gun"

>>1374192
Anon, if we apply your logic, biden's likely had police shoot scores of black people throughout his term.

Nobody believes this bullshit interpretation

>>1374192
>dems in early 2020: "I would never take a trump vaccine."
>dems in late 2020: "Trust the science, trust the experts, stop spreading misinformation."
>dems in 2024: "It didn't happen, it was all trump's fault."
Destiny shills are fucking retarded.

>>1374195
wow, quite defensive there bud

>>1374182
>>1374184
>Eyewitness reports say police shot immediately without saying anything
>Only eyewitness who said Reinoehl shot first later admitted she wasn't even there when shooting started
>Reinoehl directly said he didn't immediately surrender to police was because he feared being killed in custody
>His gun was still full after his death, meaning he never fired a shot
>Trump later says the US marshals who killed Reinoehl knew exactly who he was and weren't there to arrest him

He deserved a fair trial like Rittenhouse got. Trump directly admitted to having him killed. I wonder why?

>>1374195
>"We sent in the U.S. Marshals. It took 15 minutes it was over. Fifteen minutes, it was over. We got him. They knew who he was. They didn't want to arrest him. Fifteen minutes, that ended."
Yeah they just went in with no intention to arrest despite knowing exactly who the guy was, then shot him without identifying themselves. That's an execution anon.

>>1374196
>Federal level official policy
>State level law enforcement actions
Anon you need to understand these are two different things.

>>1374196
Please, Republicans believe that Joe Biden was personally responsible for everything against Trump. The DOJ going after Trump for the fake electors plot? Biden personally ordered that. The FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago for classified documents. It was actually a secret plot to kill Trump (they had orders to kill!) that Biden signed off on.

>>1374201
>I am literally retarded and have never heard of the supremacy clause please rape my face

>>1374203
Anon, I don't know how to explain that the actions of police officers and passing actual federal laws and mandates are separate things any clearer.

>>1374205
Oh.
You really don't know anything about the supremacy clause.
Sorry, I was funposting. I apologize.

>>1374199
First of all, shut the fuck up about wanting a fair trial. You cunts are STILL bitching about the 'fair trial' Rittenhouse got and saying that the judge influenced the trial. So don't give me that shit.

Secondly, Reinoehl doesn't deserve shit beyond what he got. The guy ran up to a Trump supporter and shot him. Even if the bullshit you just said was true, that would mean that Reinoehl got killed the SAME way he killed a person. Eye for an eye bitch.

Third, Trump can say whatever the fuck he wants. He's not controlling events in Portland or Seattle - else he would've put a stop to CHAZ like he threatened to before.

Fourth, your retarded ass just said Reinoehl "had to shoot someone in self defense". Explain how anything Reinoehl did was in self-defense. Not even that faggot Destiny agrees with you.

>>1374178
The president has no authority over any police you idiot

>>1374207
it's always funny when a lying right wing faggot gets indignant

>>1374208
>the chief executive of the branch of government dedicated to enforcing the law has no authority over the police
Peak shitpost hours

>>1374206
You know of what you were saying is true sanctuary cities would not exist, but they do, because what you are saying is not true.

I have a feeling that you already understand you are purposefully misconstruing that cause though just to get a rise out of other people

>>1374210
Yes, are you a foreigner? Yes, that is true. It's not even arguable. The president has no authority over any police force except I suppose the military police and the FBI

>>1374209
Even funnier how you can't address any of my points - especially the part about how Reinoehl acted in self-defense when he STALKED and MURDERED an unarmed Trump supporter.

>>1374209
when a lying right wing faggot gets indignant after making up a bunch of things that only happened in their own schizo dreams.

>TONS OF LIBS STILL COMPLAIN ABOUT XXXXXX
Weird that I never see them. Are they only in AI-generated right wing rage aggregators?

>>1374215
He's a troll. He's literally just here to troll people by lying

>>1374215
i'm not the person you're arguing with, remember anon. i'm the guy who laughs at you because you're a faggot. anyways, they were both mentally ill, but police are supposed to allow due process even for psychos

>>1374215
Danielson was absolutely not unarmed lmao. They found a glock, metal baton, and bear spray on him afterwards. The dude was about to either bear spray him or shoot him. Just like your boy Rittenhouse, he had to make a decision in the moment.

But hey we'll never get a fair trial, because US marshals killed him on the spot and then lied he shot first.

>>1374219
>Danielson was absolutely not unarmed lmao. They found a glock, metal baton, and bear spray on him afterwards.
Fair enough, I'll give you that much. Not that any of that justifies Reinoehl STALKING, APPROACHING, and SHOOTING him.

>Just like your boy Rittenhouse
Nah nah, not even fucking close.
Rittenhouse ran away from his attackers as best he could and only fired as a last resort.
Reinoehl ran towards his victim and shot him.

Do you see the big difference? (of course you don't because it blows up your narrative)

>he had to make a decision in the moment.
How about go home and don't stalk and murder a person?

>But hey we'll never get a fair trial, because US marshals killed him on the spot and then lied he shot first.
Well it's a shame he was fleeing the police, resisting arrest, while carrying a firearm then.

>>1374223
nothing anyone does, short of threatening lives of officers, justifies extrajudicial murder by the police

>>1374211
>You know of what you were saying is true sanctuary cities would not exist, but they do
Yeah. They're in open conflict with the federal government.
States outright refuse to enforce federal law on ideological grounds all the time. Like when the Oregon gov. refused Trump's order to curtail the riots during 2020.
I forget sometimes that democrats don't understand how our government works. My bad.

>>1374224
>nothing anyone does, short of threatening lives of officers
Like reaching for a gun?

>>1374216
>Not even that faggot Destiny
that right wing faggot listens to twitch streamers for hir information
lmao

>>1374223
>>he had to make a decision in the moment.
>How about go home
imagine unironically typing this out while defending Shittenhouse killing someone

>>1374202
>The DOJ going after Trump for the fake electors plot? Biden personally ordered that.
Fake electors don't exist anon. The president of the senate decides which electors are real or not during certification.
You're repeating propaganda that was designed to manufacture your consent for a sitting president to be overthrown by the democratic party.

>>1374226
there's an eyewitness who alleges that's a lie

>>1374227
>that right wing faggot listens to twitch streamers for hir information
I listen and look at all sources before reaching a conclusion... a lesson leftists could've learned after 2020.

>imagine unironically typing this out while defending Shittenhouse killing someone
Because he wasn't trying to run for safety when people started trying to kill him?

>>1374228
>The president of the senate decides which electors are real or not during certification.
So the non-real electors that lied and said they were real and were rejected?
The fake electors?

>>1374227
it's only okay if right wingers do it. that's literally their mantra

>>1374229
Was that the same eye witness that alleged Michael Brown was on his knees with his hands up, saying "Don't shoot!" to the racist white cop that walked up and executed him in the streets? Yeah how about you pull up the forensic report or fuck off.

>>1374231
There is no such thing as "fake" electors. The VP is the one who chooses which ones to certify. If you want to challenge an election's results, submitting alternate slates is the only way to do that.

>>1374233
why did the police change the story so much? they claimed he shot first but you know not to say that since it turned out to be a lie

>>1374234
So anyone can sign a form and submit fake results to congress, and there wouldn't be any crimes committed?
And no one ever did it before 2020 because... reasons?
Is that your hot take?

>>1374235
>“When Reinoehl apparently realizes he is being confronted by police and appears to grab for something out of the sight of the officers, there was no reasonable alternative but to use deadly force,” Tunheim wrote in his memo. “If Reinoehl had produced a gun, he could have opened fire on the officers …”

>It’s not clear whether Reinoehl fired at police. A .380-caliber handgun was found in his pocket. Task force officers told investigators they saw Reinoehl appearing to reach for his pocket.

>“A later examination would reveal that the clip of the handgun clip was fully loaded and there was no round in the chamber,” Tunheim wrote. A .380-caliber spent round was found in the backseat of Reinoehl’s vehicle. While a crime lab analyst determined it came from Reinoehl’s gun, it’s not clear “when it was fired or how it came to be in the location it was found,” Tunheim wrote.

>The .380 handgun found in Reinoehl’s pocket was later found to be the same gun used to kill Danielson in Portland days earlier.

Keep crying about your dead faggot Antifa boyfriend.

>>1374237
>A seven-month inquiry into his death determined "Reinoehl fired first," "that he failed to comply with orders to surrender and was reaching for a gun in his possession when he was shot."[56] Despite this finding, officer reports released after the initial summary reveal that no officers described Reinoehl pointing or firing a weapon towards the officers
lol at you believing doctored police reports. and i already said he was a psycho, i just know police are paid psychos

>>1374239
>Despite this finding, officer reports released after the initial summary reveal that no officers described Reinoehl pointing or firing a weapon towards the officers
Yet still reaching for the pistol in his pocket. QQ moar faggot.

>>1374240
so you have nothing to offer regarding my previous question?
>why did the police change the story so much? they claimed he shot first but you know not to say that since it turned out to be a lie

>>1374236
>And no one ever did it before 2020 because... reasons?
Three presidents did it, starting with Jefferson.
Democrats have also submitted alternative slates for every election going back decades.
You would never know this, though, because your knowledge of constitutional law is derived from talking heads on CNN and democrats who lie with impunity.

>>1374237
Why is it that these leftist types always seem to be complaining about police involved shootings when it's a murderer/rapist/pedo whatever being shot and they were reaching for a weapon or otherwise being violent

>>1374243
faithless electors and qtard nonsense aren't equivalent, but you already know this

>>1374241
>As they approached Reinoehl, officers said, he was still breathing, but bleeding heavily. As they rolled him over, they said, they saw he had a pistol in his hand but that it was “still partially in his pocket.”
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH HE A GUD BOI HE DINDU NUFFIN MUH ASSASINATIONS MUH DEATH SQUADS

I fucking wish the police just rolled up and merc'd him like you're crying about. That's the kind of justice he deserved - getting the same treatment he gave a Trump supporter.

>>1374239
>Despite this finding, officer reports released after the initial summary reveal that no officers described Reinoehl pointing or firing a weapon towards the officers
That doesn't contradict anything he said..
His entire green text he pasted said that this murderer had a handgun in his pocket and was reaching for it when officers decided to shoot him.

That's 100% consistent with what you just posted, why are you so stupid?

>>1374246
The person you're replying to has to be a troll. I refuse to believe there are people who are honestly this stupid in life

>>1374244
Because they're always trying to gaslight us into some 'dindu nuffin' shit - and then get mad when people actually look into the case and poke holes in their fairy tale.

>>1374246
>>1374247
lol. right wing melty commence. my question can't be answered because it's proof that police lied

>>1374246
>justice
ESL? You don't know the meaning

>>1374251
>>1374250
It must suck to deflect this much after stating earlier that Reinoehl "had to shoot someone in self defense".

>>1374252
nice, anon. conflate multiple situations so you you don't have to admit the truth. you love lying don't you

>>1374252
Anon if your logic is "He put himself in a situation where he had to shoot" I've got news for you about Rittenhouse.

>>1374253
This coming from the faggot that came out with
>DURR DAT WUZ SELF DEFENSE
Then when you got cornered on it you have a last-ditch effort to defend this faggot by saying
>DURR DA COPZ LEID
In a chaotic scene that became a shooting as soon as that faggot reached for his pistol. I'm not even going to waste my time quoting the officers and court documents that show Reinoehl's hand on the pistol in his pocket - there's too many to bother with.

>>1374254
>Anon if your logic is "He put himself in a situation where he had to shoot"
Holy shit you're so retarded you're trying to uno reverse your argument onto mine. I've never said Reinoehl put himself in a situation where he had to shoot - you faggots did.

>>1374255
i already posted the contradiction anon, the cops said he shot first and had no evidence. get as haughty as you want, you're defending liars though

>>1374258
>i already posted the contradiction anon, the cops said he shot first and had no evidence
Where did you post this and if they had said it why did they also say the gun was still in his pocket with his hand on it that doesn't make sense

>>1374258
>get as haughty as you want, you're defending liars though
Whereas you're lying to defend a murderer.

>>1374259
>A seven-month inquiry into his death determined "Reinoehl fired first," "that he failed to comply with orders to surrender and was reaching for a gun in his possession when he was shot."[56] Despite this finding, officer reports released after the initial summary reveal that no officers described Reinoehl pointing or firing a weapon towards the officers

>>1374260
i'm not defending him, i'm defending due process

>>1374250
>my question can't be answered because it's proof that police lied
I've been following about 50% of this conversation and every time I look it updates what you're saying simply isn't true for you are purposefully misconstruing something.

Other person said this guy murdered someone, you have not objected to that.
Other person said the initial report claimed the person was running away and then turned around and reached for something in his pocket and they shot him. You somehow thought that them seeing a pistol in his hand but still in his pocket after they shot him contradicted that fact.

>>1374243
>submitted alternative slates
The difference is those states signed off on those alternative electors. None of the swing states states in 2024 approved of sending alternative electors, which is why they were fraudulently, because they attested that they were duly appointed by the states when in fact they weren't.

>>1374234
>The VP is the one who chooses which ones to certify
And Pence choose the ones that weren't fraduently created, making them illegal.

>>1374259
I'll answer that question for him. Initial reports by police were they thought they were being shot at, and there was a spent casing inside Reinoehl's car from his gun that added to the confusion. After everything calmed down and forensics did their thing they determined that Reinoehl didn't get a shot off. Cops were already boxing him in with their cars and as soon as Reinoehl realized he was caught he reached into his pocket. Cops lit him up in response.

>>1374261
>>1374261
>Despite this finding, officer reports released after the initial summary reveal that no officers described Reinoehl pointing or firing a weapon towards the officers
>The dude never drew his gun, but was reaching for it when he got shot
None of this is inconsistent do you have a mental handicap of some sort?

>>1374262
if the police lied initially, it means they're lying, period.

>>1374264
Thank you, anon. Thanks for a real answer and not partisan shit flinging.

>>1374261
>i'm not defending him, i'm defending due process
>who had to shoot someone in self defense
lol okay faggot. Also Reinoehl threw his own due process out the fucking window when he reached for his pistol. Cry more about it.

>>1374266
After reading this: >>1374264, honestly, I don't care at all now. Dude murdered someone and was reaching for his gun to shoot police trying to make a lawful arrest when he got shot.

Literally nothing wrong happened here except this guy murdering someone and trying to run away from the police

>>1374269
>Also Reinoehl threw his own due process out the fucking window when he reached for his pistol.
This. 1 million percent this.
If the guy was defending himself and wanted due process, he should have done what reasonable people do in that case and peacefully surrender

>>1374271
>According to a report in The New York Times published on October 13, 2020, of 22 people who were near Reinoehl when he was shot, 21 told the Times they did not hear officers issue any commands or identify themselves prior to shooting.[20] Five eyewitnesses said the officers began shooting immediately after arriving on the scene.[20] None of the eyewitnesses interviewed by the Times stated that Reinoehl was holding a weapon

>>1374270
see, i appreciate this honest fascist. just say you don't care about due process or police assassinations and i'll nod my head to you

>>1374261
>i'm defending due process
I'm going to bring up someone you probably hate. Rittenhouse believed he was defending himself and wanted due process. He chose to walk towards the police with his hands up and tried to surrender. What he did not do was run away from the police or reach for a gun in their vicinity

>>1374273
You are a retard. Someone reaching for a handgun to shoot a police officer does not get due process. In any country. Not even yours, Foreigner

>>1374275
And lucky for you that there wasn't going to be any instance where he wasn't reaching for a handgun, because cops never lie about that shit

>>1374275
well yeah, because the police killed him and lied about the lead up to the situation. dead people unfortunately do not get due process. and i would like to remind you that i don't even think this victim is mentally stable, but once again, neither are most trumpfags

>>1374276
>And lucky for you that there wasn't going to be any instance where he wasn't reaching for a handgun
Well yeah, he was reaching for a handgun while police were demanding he surrender.
He lost his due process rights.

So what mental illness is it you have? I'm honestly curious. Is it some flavor of autism or like fetal alcohol syndrome or something?

I got to say though, the rhetoric in this thread from the left is literally part of the reason why Democrats lost every branch of government this last election.
They have become so unhinged with their beliefs that any reasonable person thinks they're just weird now

>>1374278
>>According to a report in The New York Times published on October 13, 2020, of 22 people who were near Reinoehl when he was shot, 21 told the Times they did not hear officers issue any commands or identify themselves prior to shooting.[20] Five eyewitnesses said the officers began shooting immediately after arriving on the scene.[20] None of the eyewitnesses interviewed by the Times stated that Reinoehl was holding a weapon
funny how nobody responded to this post the first time

>>1374280
Honestly I'm just reading what's in the thread.
I'm assuming the police didn't just sneak up behind him and shoot him, from what I gathered this man had murdered someone and was fleeing from police and at some point confronted the police and reached for weapon.

He lost his due process rights. That's the way the cookie crumbles when you try to draw a weapon on a bunch of officers

>>1374281
why are you assuming things and expecting to be taken seriously?

>>1374272
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22039769-2021-usms-362419/

Here's all the reports from the US Marshals on this incident (lots of REDACTED names and shit). Y'know it's kinda hard to say that the police didn't identify themselves when the BOXED HIM IN WITH COP CARS.

>>1374280
>funny how nobody responded to this post the first time
I just did, faggot. Care to comment?

>>1374283
which of the 297 pages of this document supports your claim, exactly?

>>1374283
>silently box in a man in cop cars
>light him up as soon as he reaches for something
This is fine, for schizo minds

>>1374284
you could reply to that if you'd like, it's literally one post below yours

>>1374280
>While at the Lacey Police Department all plain clothes officers put on body armorwhich was marked in several areas that clearly identified them as, 'police,'"Sheriff,' 'US Marshalls,' etc. The members of the arrest team were wearinguniforms that clearly identified them as law enforcement officers All officerswere wearing their various agency badges (For further documentation regardingall officers clothing please refer to attached photos of each individual officertaken by CIIT investigators).

>>1374280
Officer I f b)(5) I drove directly towards the Jetta as planned Deputy I (b)(5) landDeputy US Marshall f b)(5) I followed him in their vehicle. Correctional Specialist(b)(5) (b)(7)(C) I pulled his Charger up to the rear and 90 degrees from the rear of theJetta as he recognized that the take down was now in motion Deputy I (b)(5) Iopened his vehicle door as they approached the Jetta to be able to give verbalcommands and exit the vehicle faster.Officer I gaff 5) I drove his vehicle directly towards the Jetta, going bumper tobumper with the vehicle to block the Jetta from being able to leave its parkingspot As Officer I f b)(5) I was approaching in his vehicle he observed the Jetta'sheadlights come on. Officer I f b)(5) I stated, "I noticed Reinoehfis eyes got wideand then he appeared to recognize us I then saw him lunge forward in his carwith his right hand going forward in the car Officer I f b)(5) I stopped his vehiclejust in front of the bumper of the Jetta, but did not contact the Jetta.Deputy I (b)(5) I stated in his written statement that as they came to a stop in frontof Reinoehrs vehicle he yelled from his open door, "POLICE.." Deputy I (b)(5) Ifurther documented that, 'Reinoehl looked up at us and it appeared to me basedon his facial expression that he recognized us as police and/or heard myannouncement.' Deputy I (b)(5) I goes on to state, 'I was close enough that Icould see the white in the suspect's eyes and when he looked up at us his eyesgot really big and he immediately looked back down. I could not see where hishands were, but he was making a movement consistent with his arms that basedon my training and experience is consistent with the moves that someone makeswhen they are attempting to grab a gun they have on their person."

>>1374288
so they were dressed as police. that has nothing to do with them stating their purpose. and this is the main thing i'd like you to comment on:

>None of the eyewitnesses interviewed by the Times stated that Reinoehl was holding a weapon

>>1374280
Deputy I (0)(6) I included in his statement that as he saw Reinoehl appeared to bedrawing a firearm he feared for his safety and the safety of other officers Hebegan firing his department rifle through the windshield of the vehicle, as he didnot even have sufficient time to completely exit the vehicle. Deputy I (0)(6)pointed out that he knew Reinoehl to be a dangerous suspect, wanted for ahomicide, believed to be currently armed with several firearms, and fearing forhis safety and the safety of his fellow officers, he began firing at Reinoehl whowas still seated in the driver's seat of the Jetta at that time.

>>1374290
>they did not hear officers issue any commands or identify themselves prior to shooting.
>here's evidence that they were identified as police
>here's where they issued commands
>b-bu-but he wasn't drawing the weapon so he gud!
Fucking pathetic.

>>1374292
>hearsay from proven liars is evidence
i can say the same to you anon. i say we agree to disagree, i really don't care about this that much, it's just fascinating how much of a lying faggot you as well as your ilk are

>>1374293
Well shit I guess we should take the stoned, bisexual lefties for their word then. I mean they've NEVER been wrong or lied about anything - especially in 2020. Shut the fuck up.

>>1374293
>i say we agree to disagree
No. You got caught lying multiple times in this thread. Take your L's.

>>1374295
Right wing schizos never take their L's though.

>>1374295
me proving that you support liars isn't lying. that's actually you lying anon

>>1374290
>None of the eyewitnesses interviewed by the Times stated that Reinoehl was holding a weapon
He was drawing his weapon, retard. Had he already been holding it, more people likely would have been injured

>>1374292
Bro that anon is something else. Either troll or literally mentally challenged

>>1374297
>>1374296
Better cry to the mods to delete this thread again like all the other times you got your ass beat.

>>1374300
you sure like to assume which anonymous person you're talking to. doesn't give me much confidence in your intelligence

>>1374290
>Should I believe the police that were six feet away from the suspect?
>Nah I'll believe the random woman that was in her home when the shooting started.

>>1374297
So far the only one showing any proof of lying is me debunking every claim you've made today.

>>1374302
>should i believe the police
why do right wingers believe that the answer is yes unless it's ATF. i'll never understand that. anyways, guys, i'm busy right now, you have jobs to do here but i'll antagonize you losers later. bye

>>1374304
lol that's what I thought bitch. Run away.

>>1374128
you've lied more then trump has. and deserve to be imprisonned and raped to death for it

>>1374178
>someone in self defense
he claims but it was shown to be a lie.
>BLM member
that should be enough to sentence him to the gullotine.

>>1373772
Please tell me you're not going to herald this guy as some kind of hero. When the dems were in he did dem shit. Now the repubs are in he does repub shit.

>>bu bu bu but he was forced!
Awfully convenient that he speaks up about it now though eh? These cunts do whatever is needed to survive at any given time.

On another note does anyone use Facebook? It's 99% bots not and I've not spoken to or added anyone on it in years. I can't believe this like lives off a failed social media platform still. He's not even been smart enough to use it branch out into anything else. Kike.

>>1374308
No one uses kikebook, but Instagram is currently the most popular social media platform. Cuckerburg is rolling in data to sell to glowies right now

>>1374308
>When the dems were in he did dem shit. Now the repubs are in he does repub shit.
Zuckerberg was a Democrat donor during Trump's first and second election. What you're saying is false, he has historically been on the side of Democrats and he has just recently publicly flipped.

What we're seeing is this is just part of a larger trend across the country of Democrats being too radical for most reasonable people

>>1374315
>Zuckerberg was a Democrat donor during Trump's first and second election
Looks like he's donated to Democrats 14 times, Republicans nine: https://www.opensecrets.org/search?order=desc&q=mark+zuckerberg&sort=D&type=donors
Here's an article from 2021 stating that Zuckerberg "rallied" Facebook behind biden's campaign: https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2021/01/big-tech-employees-rally-biden

>>1374308
So I guess you are just demonstrably wrong then

>>1374317
>Looks like he's donated to Democrats 14 times
This alone tells me how much of a retarded troll you are.
Read it again, and come up with an answer that isn't demonstrably wrong.
If you can't, then everything else you've shitted out onto this board is likely just as misinformed and incorrect.

>>1374319
>Read it again, and come up with an answer that isn't demonstrably wrong.
Oh I just did, and it turns out that you are demonstrably wrong. Nothing new with that tho. I bet this is more than your 14th L today tho on this board alone

https://files.catbox.moe/fffq4e.png

>>1374324
>it still things its right
I'll give you a hint, shill: One of those entries is a correction that removes another 3.
So the correct answer is 10, meaning Zuck donated to both sides equally invalidating your other shill point too

>>1373791
>your court
You don't even understand why we're laughing at you.

>>1374123
As you are very clearly denser than the core to the nearest black hole, allow me to demonstrate how your post self-invalidates.

>That was me that provided the link and here it is: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-considering-launch-state-run-media-wants-start-our-own-network-1463042
>"Pro-state media"
>The article also clearly states he did not state it would be funded by the state
Right. "state-run". Right there in the URL. If the state is running this, then the bill is going to be footed by... Uber? Amazon? Or could it possibly be, the state?

Now, do I need to explain to you how the remit of forwarding his rhetoric and countering 'misinformation' is just another way to say 'propaganda'?
Or how this leads to becoming the arbitrator of 'truth'?
And what about the next obvious step, as demonstrated by russia, north korea, and china - where things that counter this 'truth' feature consequences?

>Democrats are literally the number 1 source of misinformation right now.
Good news dipshit. I'm not a "democrat". I just point out bullshit where I see it.

>>1374325
>One of those entries is a correction that removes another 3.
What the fuck are you talking about? Show proof

>>1374379
>Right there in the URL
It's in the shortened url but not the article. Faggot retard.

>>1374379
>I just point out bullshit where I see it.
Well so do I and so far I've demonstrated about every post of your was pure bullshit and you are grasping at straws now "oh it must be true it's in a url even though it says opposite in the article"

>>1374379
Just stop arguing with the schizos. They've got the entire cord nitpicking your posts now.

>>1374401
First up, that isn't a shortened URL, retard. It's the actual thing.

Next, that article only contains a small extract from the speech. It covers the part about creation of a propaganda machine, but his speech has more. Should try paying attention to it.

>>1374403
Pffft. Keeps 'em busy. Whilst they eating all three cells of their available brainpower on this, somewhere else is 'safe'.

>>1374402
>though it says opposite in the article
Where? Where does it say he is *not* building a state funded propaganda machine?

>>1374501
Prove it.

Instead of just spammign this shit everywhere.

>>1374123
Meanwhile Repubs all over the media lying that Cali cut their firefighting budget.

>>1374544
>lying
???

>>1374178
Friendly reminder that Rittenhouse ACTUALLY shot 3 people in UNPROVOKED self defense and Rittenhouse tried to run away and go to the police, and Democrats (including Harris) all said he deserved to be killed.