I know it's just typical leftist behavior but the whole "assault and shame Tesla owners" thing going on is just a really shitty thing to do. And before you say anything, I'd say the same if some other car company supported a democrat.

>>1393137
>is just a really shitty thing to do.
True. Anyone buying a Testler pre-November 2024 is exempt

>>1393137
Assaulting people for owning a Tesla is ridiculous, but shaming them hardly is. If you can afford a Tesla, you can afford to get rid of a Tesla.

>>1393139
Nah. Sometimes you just have to take the L. It's like trying to argue you were into the swastika before the Nazis ruined it so disregard all the swastikas around your house post WWII.

Maybe we can revisit the issue a decade or two after Musk's name is off the company. After all, plenty of companies with Nazi ties moved past that. However, for now, if you're driving one, you deserve the hate.

>>1393139
>Anyone buying a Testler pre-November 2024 is exempt
2024 is way too late, Elon went full retard long before then.

>>1393146
Model 3s are priced similar to regular cars last I saw. The bigger issue is that EVs have no resale value. Only the mega rich can afford to crater an 80k investment without blinking.

>>1393137
It's pretty based
More republicans should be set on fire

>>1393136
>Tesla comes out
>rich democrats buy them to feel superior about saving the environment
>Musk joins Trump
>leftists vandalize and set fires to teslas (lmao saving the environment)
>Republicans sit back and have a coke as lefties tear each other apart
I love this timeline.

Democrats are terrorists. They are inciting violence for political reasons. That's terrorism.

>>1393154
Better hide in your bunker chuddie coward

>>1393136
Checking it out, it's pretty sparse owner data. San Diego showed like all of 5 Tesla owners, but it did have their names, home addresses, phone numbers and emails which is illegal.

Democrats always try to incite violence against normal people like them.
Every. Single. Time.

>>1393156
>Checking it out, it's pretty sparse owner data
They probably purchased recent sales information from state DMV offices. Used vehicle transfers/sale information is public record and can be bought for a couple bucks each.

So anyways, it's just proving that domestic terrorism is so in right now for the Democrat party

>>1393156
>>1393157
Just remember when you're biting the curb: (you) chose this.

>>1393158
I don't own a Tesla, but I'm going to support the coming purge of the leftwing terrorists

>>1393156
>>1393157
Honestly there's so much information only Tesla would know that it makes me think either they had a data breach... or this is a false flag.

>>1393152
Wingnut fag loser
>>1393139
>>1393137
All they're going to do is make more people who like Musk and Trump buy more Tesla's
All the graffiti and shit on Tesla cars is performative outrage
Tesla's stock and profit margins have been going down. It's not due to protestors, it's due to how stupid Musk is. But of course, lefty protestors think Musk = every Tesla owner.

>>1393164
Cry more, you're fucked

>>1393146
>It's like trying to argue you were into the swastika before the Nazis ruined it so disregard all the swastikas aro
After consideration I agree with you.I set up a program that set's up Testler owners who want to sell with Zionist buyers from around the world

>>1393164
>Tesla's stock and profit margins have been going down.
If it weren't for chyyNese EVS being completely stopped from entering North America, Testler would crumble within 12 months

>>1393163
>Honestly there's so much information only Tesla would know
Bro it shows like 4 Teslas in all of San Diego county. This is not Teslas records, these are much more likely to be public record sales from the last couple months, which can be purchased from databrokers who collect it by scraping public records and working with lenders

>>1393136
So could the owner(s) of this website be held liable if any Tesla owner gets killed?

>>1393208
Yes. What they are doing is already illegal, the website urges people to spray paint or otherwise vandalize these peoples vehicles and links to a website giving tips on how not to be caught committing crimes.

It's already illegal what they are doing, the question is if they will be caught. The website will probably be shut down. It was just created yesterday using a registrar named Sarek, and it violates their t/c so it will probably be shut down as soon as the takedown order is processed.
The registrar explicitly prohibits what this person is doing, not to mention it's illegal which they also forbid
>Content that is threatening or invades another person's privacy or property rights

China makes a line of EVs that have greater range and reliability and charge twice as quickly. Musk has ensured that they are not available in the US. He's just a conman and nothing more, and that's why Trump likes him so much.

>free market economy
>republicans

>>1393210
>illegal
you use that word but it clearly does not apply anymore. Trump and Musk are openly efying court orders every day.

I think we can say that anyone who protests tesla is anti-American. Funny how the left are such a bunch of NPCs that they completely did a 180 on those fine American made vehicles just because Elon returned to SANITY. Elon is Making America Great Again. The only people who complain about Elon and Tesla are people who want to Make America WOKE Again!

The shills are out in force today.

>>1393136
does anyone actually have a fucking link to the site? nothing ever happened.

>>1393229
That's every day. At least they stopped posting TASS links.

>>1393214
The problem is, defying a judge isn't illegal. It can get you held in contempt, but it's not actually breaking a law because judges don't make up laws.

However, standing up websites urging people to violence and providing innocent people's personal information is completely illegal

>>1393238
>The problem is, defying a judge isn't illegal
Criminal contempt of court is, in fact, illegal.

>but it's not actually breaking a law because judges don't make up laws
Actually they do as judicial precedent is considered law. But even if they didn't, that wouldn't mean you can ignore them without legal consequence because that in itself is already illegal. It's similar to how refusing to listen to cops acting within their lawful authority is potentially illegal even though cops don't make the law.

Incidentally, there are multiple different kinds of laws. First there's the Constitution. Then the legislature create statutes. Some statutes empower the executive to create regulations. The statutes and regulations taken together form code. This code is then interpreted by the judiciary to create precedent. Also the executive can create executive orders. Also there are ratified treaties created jointly by the executive and legislature.

>>1393234
Just google it. I'm not sure what the point of this website is though. It's not like tesla charging stations are secret, hidden places. Whole thing feels like some sort of sting operation.

>>1393153
>>Republicans sit back and have a coke as lefties tear each other apart
they're trying to label protesting Tesla products as domestic terrorism. sounds to me like they're terrified of Muskrat losing money.

>>1393234
url ends in .st

Tesla isn't even owned by Musk
What the fuck are these retards doing

>>1393244
>Criminal contempt of court is, in fact, illegal
Not doing what a judge says is not illegal. What is illegal is a judge deciding you have done it enough to warrant being held in contempt, which no judge has come to that conclusion, so no, what they did is not illegal.

However, doxxing a bunch of innocent people and urging others to violence against them is illegal in and of itself.

>>1393255
These left wing terrorists are attempting to radicalize others to their cause.
It's how terrorists reproduce.

>>1393257
>Not doing what a judge says is not illegal. What is illegal is a judge deciding you have done it enough to warrant being held in contempt
That's a distinction without a difference and has fuck all to do with your claim that it can't be illegal cause judges can't make law. You were clearly trying to claim contempt is only civil and got caught. Fuck off.

>However, doxxing a bunch of innocent people and urging others to violence against them is illegal in and of itself.
Not until a jury says it's illegal. Kidding, of course. Doxxing isn't something you can be charged with and hauled before a jury for. And the website doesn't urge violence.

>>1393255
>Tesla isn't even owned by Musk
His wealth is tied up in it via stocks and he'll get royally fucked if its value drops enough since he's borrowed a fuckton against the value of those stocks.

>>1393261
How does stalking private citizens translate to attacking musk?

>>1393263
Any decent lawyer can easily show the motivation behind this. You have to pretend to be dumb to even make a case in favor of this.

>>1393136
There's actually a special name for an event where Democrats suddenly become increasingly more radical than they were the day before. These are called "weekdays"

>>1393136
Retarded nonsense. Most of these cars were bought years ago before Musk's fascist turn, when he was just a retarded autist larping as Tony Stark and libs bought them thinking they were "saving the earth"

>>1393258
the only people successfully radicalizing anyone to left-wing causes is the musk administration outwardly fucking everyone

>>1393281
I hope tesla owners sell them. I would enjoy getting one of those trucks for cheap.

>>1393288
Seems short sighted to want a car that can only be repaired in house by Tesla during a rash of Tesla vandalisms, but if you're that set on getting a swasticar, you do you.

>>1393284
Fun fact: The person the White House claimed to be in charge of DOGE on paper (since Musk is technically just an aid to the president) was hired at a date after they had to identify her as such.

>>1393293
Cool story bro

>>1393284
If you think terrorism is winning average people to your side, you're fucking delusional.

>>1393308
>If you think terrorism is winning average people to your side, you're fucking delusional.
Tesla's stock has lost half its value. That is average people taking a side.

As it turns out, nobody gives a shit about terrorists targeting nazis.

>>1393294
Facts are not stories.

>>1393293
Do you seriously expect anyone to believe that Musk isn't in charge of DOGE? Forget technicalities, forget the paperwork, do you actually think anyone is going to believe that for a fucking second?

>>1393319
Oh fuck no. The thing is, this is a pretty curious legal thing; technically, Musk has no power and thus isn't responsible for anything DOGE does. It's a neat little legal shield to protect him from consequences... with one little drawback; SOMEONE has to be in charge on paper. And right now, the Trump admin is not admitting who that person is/was. Even if they're just a figurehead/puppet.

>>1393311
>muh stonks
Not the real world.
The average person doesn't care about Musk's political activities. They buy cars to go to work, not as a political statement.
>muh fascism
You've just dramatically increased the likelihood that you're going to be lynched because an actual autist made you upset.

>>1393238
No, wait, maybe it shouldn't be illegal.
Doxxing, really, never WAS strictly illegal.
Freedom of speech and all that.
You know, it's funny, idn'it, how doxxing is cool against Whites (senators at restaurants, old couples in their houses during riots), but not against niggers, spics, or leftist faggot hollyweird shitskins?

No, no, let's let them doxx away.
Time to hit then with their own absurdity.
Let's get back to doxxing. Doxx the scam doctors and healthcare administration, luigi had it right, bros

Doxxing Tesla? stupid, staged, retarded
Doxxing faggots, dykes, trannies, scam shitskins, government "officials", foreign investors, foreign-born or anchor-baby shitskins in government or corporate leadership?

Justified.

>>1393336
>Doxxing, really, never WAS strictly illegal.
It's illegal in multiple states and can also get your ass nabbed on harassment statutes.

>>1393336
>Doxxing, really, never WAS strictly illegal.
Doxxing people and calling on others to commit acts of violence against these individuals is illegal in probably every single US state, and probably even federally as well

>>1393244
>Criminal contempt of court is, in fact, illegal
Has anybody committed this crime? Not yet, according to judges.

>>1393260
>That's a distinction without a difference and has fuck all to do with your claim that it can't be illegal cause judges can't make law. You were clearly trying to claim contempt is only civil and got caught
No, anon. Re read his posts. He was claiming that it doesn't reach the bar of criminality until a judge decides it has, which hasn't happened yet, therefore it's not yet criminal.
It's pretty clear you need to take some more English language comprehension classes.

>>1393260
Hey anon, I'm the one you were arguing with and >>1393351 is right you should re-read both my posts because you somehow bafflingly misinterpreted that I was saying contempt is a civil matter (although interestingly enough, I googled this and there actually is such a thing as a contempt being a civil matter for indirect contempt of court)

I was making the point that 2 people can defy what a judge says, and a judge can decide to hold one in contempt but not the other. The only person who has committed a criminal act here was the one who was held in contempt... In other words, the judges word is not a law, violating it is not criminal of itself.
And I was contrasting this with the fact that doxxing people and calling on others to commit acts of violence against them is in fact a criminal act regardless of any other factors at play.

>>1393337
>>1393348
y'all need to familiarize yourself with the law. Unless you have a legal duty to keep something confidential, you can give out whatever the fuck you want about someone as long as it isn't defamatory or shit like revenge porn.

Doxxing ain't illegal. Harassment and intimidation are completely separate charges. Now doxxing could be an element of harassment or intimidation, but so could just talking to a motherfucker. On its own constitutes neither. You need other elements beyond the doxxing.

Also there is no call to violence here.

The closest you get is a civil violation called invasion of privacy, but even that doesn't apply because the information at issue has to be offensive to a reasonable person if made public (and beyond that what car you drive isn't fucking private information in the fucking first place).

Fuck's sake, every site you visit, everywhere you move, every account tied to your name, phone, address, or email, everything you buy, and all your social media habits are already bundled and sold to anyone that wants it. This is fucking nothing.

>>1393351
>>1393356
Y'all are dumbfucks. Whether or not something is factually illegal is not determined by whether or not you have been punished for it. By that logic, you could kill someone and it wouldn't be illegal until you're actually fucking sent away for it.

Legal liability is not the standard of illegality.

>>1393325
>They buy cars to go to work, not as a political statement.
Have you seen a fucking cybertruck?

Also tesla's sales are down if you want to go that route.

Also also you can't actually buy a burned out husk.

What's stopping Musk from selling his stock, letting it crater, then buying the dip?

>>1393380
>Whether or not something is factually illegal is not determined by whether or not you have been punished for it
Well, that's not what I'm saying and it just proves the point even more that you *really* need to work on your English language comprehension skills

>>1393381
People buy cybertrucks because they're fantastic vehicles

>>1393381
He's right though, people have not historically purchased Teslas to make a political statement.
They are burned, shot at, and vandalized to make a political statement though

>>1393389
Citation needed. These things have been recalled a dozen times and literally have a new potentially life threatening issue found every other week. Like:
>Need to replace the wheel caps because the originals cut into the tires
>Can't drive during snowstorms because snow builds up in the lights without melting and blinds you
>Can't get let the doors get damaged in any serious way or they won't open and will trap you inside
>Can't brush any skin against the door edges or they'll cut you they're so sharp
>Can't trust the autopilot because it's so bad it'll slam you into a painting of a tunnel wile e. coyote style
>Can't let it get wet or go unwashed for more than a day or two or the frame rusts
>Can't drive it in too high winds or the adhesive for the frame will just give and whole panels will fly off
>Can't keep the default covering on the pedals because it can get lose and get stuck in the accelerating position

>>1393389
>people buy cybertrucks because they're faggots
ftfy

>>1393389
This is why we say you're in a cult.

>>1393404
Honestly, besides the fact that some of your shit is so laughably impossible it can only happen in a carefully controlled test designed to harm a cybertruck (https://futurism.com/tesla-wall-autopilot), some is outright false (googling it shows they don't rust in the rain, they will collect rust particles tho from the air (https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-rust-reports-analysis/), I think tards like yourself are so hyperfocused on it you people ignore that so many vehicles have fucking problems like this, or similar, or different.

This reminds me of during covid how Democrats were massively overestimating the deadliness of covid because of media hype and their echo chambers.

>>1393544
>can only happen in a carefully controlled test designed to harm a cybertruck
You know it's bad if the autopilot fails in a test environment right? Hence the point of the test? If it fails, that's bad, because it means there does in-fact exist scenarios where your autopilot will send you straight into a wall. The ideal amount of scenarios where that happens is 0.

>they don't rust in the rain, they will collect rust particles tho from the air
That's still bad retard. They even outright warn these things require constant maintaining and washing to avoid rusting. That's not normal.

And please, please name another vehicle where snow unavoidably builds up in the headlights if you drive it during a snowstorm. Or where the hubcaps it released with dig into the sides of the tires and irreparably blown them out. Or where the doors can just lock you inside to die if they get damaged because they won't open if the electronics get damaged. This shit isn't good, and it isn't normal. You can be the most diehard republican on this earth and still see these things are shit at best and deathtraps at worst.

>>1393549
>You know it's bad if the autopilot fails in a test environment right? Hence the point of the test?
Yeah because it's totally a common occurrence to be driving on a desert highway road and come upon a painted backdrop that looks exactly like the highway ahead of you.

For fucks sake anon, ignoring the fact that in the entire history of driving everywhere in earth this scenario has never been encountered by a single human ever, 99% human drivers wouldn't be able to avoid the collision in this situation

It's a laughable test and literally means nothing because it doesn't happen in reality. You may as well blame it for not being able to fly when driven off of a cliff

>>1393384
>What's stopping Musk from selling his stock, letting it crater, then buying the dip?
It's wildly overvalued thanks to Elon being tied to the company and the second he started trying to dump the stock en masse, its value would crater. This would be well before he could dump all his stock. And in the process he would have to pay back billions upon billions of dollars in loans he's taken against the value of his stock.

Also the value would never recover. Also Elon would be held responsible and forced out of the company for making all the other owners broke. Literally the only reason they currently suck his cock and let him get away with being an open Nazi and drug addict is that his empty promises and name brand are what keep the value of the company afloat. He's cut the value of the stock in half and they can't jettison him because if they did, it'd fall another fucking 95% from there.

So yeah, other than all that, nothing.

>>1393552
>99% human drivers wouldn't be able to avoid the collision in this situation
A human being can see a fucking painting you retard.

Also, how many murals do you think look like tunnels like that? Again, the acceptable amount of scenarios where the autopilot cannot tell the difference between the road and a wall is 0. It shouldn't matter what it fucking looks like.

>>1393552
>Yeah because it's totally a common occurrence to be driving on a desert highway road and come upon a painted backdrop that looks exactly like the highway ahead of you.
A self driving car has literally plowed into blue semi thinking it was the open sky before. LIDAR is the industry standard outside of Telsa now for a reason.

The looney tunes bullshit was just an extreme case to make a point of how much better LIDAR is. Camera only is a godawful design and even as someone that has furiously caped for self driving for years, I've never defended that bullshit. You never want contrast to be the only thing saving you from a fucking solid object.

>>1393554
>being an open nazi
God I wish.

>>1393559
>A self driving car has literally plowed into blue semi thinking it was the open sky before
I googled stats on this and I admit that Tesla is involved in more numbers of self driving crashes then any other automaker, although I wonder how that compares to market popularity, as the second most common car brand in the US to be involved in self driving crashes is "Waymo LLC" and Ive never even heard of them, let alone seen any of their cars my entire life

>>1393567
>then
*than

>>1393567
>Waymo LLC
Oh snap lol I just googled them. They hold the place for the second largest number of self driving car crashes in the US. They are owned by Google and operate self driving cars in SF with a fleet of 250. They have been involved in over 450 self driving crashes lmao, this literally gives them nearly a 200% crash rate per year lmao. Way worse than telsa haha

>>1393136
Oh noooooooo....well anyways...

>>1393137
I'm a leftist and I think its retarded. People don't buy cars because of political beliefs. There is a very low chance that a Tesla owner even knows who Elon was. Its more likely they were convinced by advertising that it was the next big thing or are usually for the environment with wanting an electrical vehicle. Hell, despite the fact I think its an ugly piece of shit, there is a very high chance somebody thinks its cool.

Its a STUPID thing to go after. It would be wiser to go after Starlink since that's what Elon is using to exploit government infrastructures and making geopolitical maneuvers like turning it off in Ukraine.

>>1393172
Mind explaining to an idiot if this is true?

>>1393569
At least Waymos are instantly recogizable white SUVs with all that sensor shit on them. Anyway they're taxis so per vehicle isn't as meaningful as per mile.

>>1393627
>There is a very low chance that a Tesla owner even knows who Elon was
He got a Marvel movie cameo fucking 15 years ago. The fuck are you talking about? Dude's got a shitton of name recognition.

>Its more likely they were convinced by advertising
He's the face of the fucking company. The entire reason he hasn't been ejected for being an open neonazi is how much he factors into the fucking advertising and brand. Tesla=Elon and has for fucking years.

>>1393544
>>1393552
Lol in the 24 hours since this post there was another cybertruck mass recall.

The left have gone mad. They're boycotting Tesla, causing its stock to plummet. Thousands of Tesla owners are being doxxed and threatened. Dozens of teslas were set on fire and vandalized. A bunch of Tesla dealerships were targeted with violence. Democrats aren't condemning this coordinated domestic terrorism by the mentally ill. Instead, they're practically celebrating and egging it on. Just Democrats destroying great American companies. This is all wrong on such a deep level. They're all small, petty, vindictive, evil bastards. Just simply unimaginably evil. Republicans should use this as another reason why all liberal thought should be banned.

>>1393792
They're financially illiterate baboons. They have no stocks and are proud of it. All they want to do is cheer for American companies to fail in the hopes that hundreds of thousands of American workers will lose their jobs. Disgusting behavior. Sometimes, I look at the JD Vance portrait in the White House and thank the Lord that we won.

>>1393794
1. Tesla doesn't employ hundreds of thousands of American workers. They employ about 125k worldwide.
2. Elon is trying to fire hundreds of thousands of American workers

>>1393792
>>1393794
Imagine simping for the world's richest man. He's not going to notice you.

>>1393155
Im not hiding anywhere, everybody knows only liberals own teslas. Im just sitting here munching on some yummy popcorn while I watch your own 'side' tear eachother apart.

total tesla death

>>1394209
God forbid the poor people rise up and torch banks like they're torching rich people's cars.

>>1394297
Sorry comrade, the poor are too busy watching TV and smoking fent. Maybe next time :(