Democrats are afraid to fund the government. They worry that they will get “hammered” by their liberal base if they vote to fund the government.One Democrat lawmaker actually said they have enough votes to open the government but they were worried that if they did, they would be decapitated by liberals using 18th century machines designed for executing political enemies: “We would have enough votes” to reopen the government “if people were not terrified of getting the guillotine,”https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5561362-liberal-base-backlash-democrats/Democratic senators fear getting ‘hammered’ after ‘No Kings’ for ending shutdownSome Democrats skeptical about their leadership’s hard-line stance against reopening the federal government privately acknowledge that they fear getting “hammered” by their liberal base if they vote for a Republican funding bill.Grassroots Democrats frustrated with the Trump administration have been demanding a fight, and on Saturday millions showed up at “No Kings” demonstrations across the country to protest the president’s government.In that context, Democrats know they will get hit hard by a number of voices on the left if they do not get something for opening the government.“People are going to get hammered” if they vote for the House-passed bill to reopen the government and keep it funded through Nov. 21, said one Democratic senator who requested anonymity to talk candidly about their party.In that context, Democrats know they will get hit hard by a number of voices on the left if they do not get something for opening the government.“People are going to get hammered” if they vote for the House-passed bill to reopen the government and keep it funded through Nov. 21, said one Democratic senator who requested anonymity to talk candidly about their party.
A second person familiar with the political dynamics within the Senate Democratic caucus, who spoke with The Hill ahead of the “No Kings” protests, said centrist senators are fearful of breaking with leaders while party activists are planning the anti-Trump rallies.“We would have enough votes” to reopen the government “if people were not terrified of getting the guillotine,” the second person said.Only three members of the Democratic caucus have voted to reopen the government: Sens. John Fetterman (Pa.), Catherine Cortez Masto (Nev.) and Angus King (Maine), an Independent who caucuses with Democrats.On Thursday, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (N.H.) became the fourth Democrat to signal unease with the party’s staunch opposition to what in normal times would be relatively uncontroversial funding bills when she voted Thursday to advance an $852 billion defense funding bill.Liberal activists called the votes to fund the Department of Defense and to reopen the government without Republican concessions on health care “baffling” and a “mistake.”“Sens. Shaheen, Cortez Masto, and Fetterman voting with Republicans today is baffling,” said Andrew O’Neill, the national advocacy director at Indivisible, a progressive group.“This was not a good faith effort from Republicans to end the shutdown with bipartisan negotiations,” he added. “It was GOP political theater, and these three Democrats joined right in.”Fetterman pushed back against that criticism and defended his vote for the defense spending bill as motivated by concern for military families who might have to rely on food banks if they stop getting paychecks.“I voted yes to pay our service members. That’s service members over party. That’s not baffling to me,” he said.All of this is music to the ears of Republicans, who want centrist Democrats to feel the pain.
Sources familiar with the political motivations driving the Senate Democrats’ shutdown stance point to Sen. Jon Ossoff (Ga.), who is the most vulnerable Senate Democrat up for reelection in 2026, as an example of the dilemma facing Democrats.One Democratic insider argued that Ossoff, who represents a swing state that voted for President Trump in 2024, needs to raise money from the liberal base to win.“His calculus is, ‘Do I vote to open the government up and get crushed and can’t raise a single dollar of low-dollar money or do I vote to shut the government down and get $3 million [from online fundraising]?’” the source argued. Ossoff has voted 10 times against the House-passed funding bill and voted on Thursday against advancing bipartisan bill to fund the Department of Defense.The first-term Democratic senator said he’s always ready to work across the aisle to solve problems and blamed House Republicans for being on recess since late September to avoid potential negotiations on rising health care costs.“We need a bipartisan solution that prevents health insurance premiums from doubling and reopens the government. My constituents don’t want health care costs to go up by thousands of dollars and they want the federal government open,” he told The Hill earlier this month.Democrats said they opposed the defense appropriations bill because Republicans could not assure them it would move in tandem with the Labor and Health and Human Services appropriations bill, which funds many of their nondefense priorities.Yet, some centrist Democrats are growing impatient with the impasse as they are forced to vote repeatedly on a House-passed clean continuing resolution while leaders in both parties have yet to even meet to address rising health care costs.
>>1449833Why are chuds so intent on double posting stories lately?
>>1449879Where was this posted before
>>1449879Oh, it wasn't posted on this board yet, you just made it up. Usual lyin' lefty.
Dems don't want to vote because their commie base won't give them money if they do.That's fucking hilarious.
>>1449917The anon made you look, retard. N'YUCK N'YUCK
>>1449917Naah it's the same story as >>1449769 and OP knows it, but he lost an argument and posting another thread makes him feel better.
>>1449976You should really just post >>1449784 insteadthe only post thats needed in this retards tantrum threads
I've heard nothing but abolish the IRS from the right for decades. Why the fuck does the government need funding?
>>1449991It doesn't. Checkmate, leftfags.
>>1449833democrat politicians with help of their media slaves brainwashed their own voters to such levels of unimaginable retardation and pure stupidity they now realize its hard to control the completely brainwashed moronic mob they created lmao
>>1449994This post is pure projection
>>1449919Conflating the Democrats and commies is the funniest fucking thing. I wish you could see for a second how ridiculous that is.
>>1449993So then there's no problem with Dems keeping shit shut down until Republicans stop trying to jack up the cost of healthcare. Quit bitching.
>>1449996pls remove your mueller time tattoo
Nobody calls me chicken, Biff.
>>1450004>Republicans stop trying to jack up the cost of healthcare.Democrats voted for these corporate subsidies to expire Jan 1 2026. Nobody is jacking up anything. The planned emergency subsidies for corporations are expiring on time
>>1449976Another lyin' lefty trying to gaslight the public Sad!
>>1450004They could introduce a new bill and accept the clean CR
>>1450077Not until Repubs address the impending insurance crisis. Not Dems fault they actually care about what their voters want.
>>1450080>the impending insurance crisisIt's reverting back to how it was in 2019. Just like Democrats voted for it to do. There is no impending crisis, you've been lied to
>>1450080>Muh talking points.
>>1450084>There is no impending crisisIf your income reverted back to what it was in 2019 would there be no problem?>Just like Democrats voted for it to do.I was unaware politicians are allowed to change their minds.
>>1450088There is no impending crisis because even if the credits do end its going to affect like 6% of the market. And no, dems didnt "change their minds" it was passed as an emergency measure that had an expiry date.
>>1450095Good post
>>1449833Crazy how the liberal base is so bloodthirsty that even their own elected representatives are worried about them constructing guillotines to execute them if they decide to fund the government
why does esl shill always feel the need to triple post and respond to himself? insecurity?
>>1450190Anon a government should be in fear of angering its people.
>>1450194This.
>>1450194That line of thinking is why the French have had 12 different governments over the last 250 years, because they keep giving into mob rule.I would much prefer living under a stable government that makes decisions based on the good of the public rather than out of fear of execution from the loudest most radical minorities
>>1450212The only way for a people to punish a government that has failed them is overthrowing it. This is not a radical opinion; it is literally what the US was founded on.
>>1450194Leftists aren't people though.
>>1450214All the Democrats have to do is acknowledge that they've been deconstructing all the work that went into civilization and using it to push tranny, feminist and brownoid propaganda deliberately meant to destroy our nation. Then they need to fuck off out of the country with the brown deportees. Then we can go back to the business of running a nation. Simple as.
>>1450214You're unironically supporting sedition and treason because orange man bad.
>>1450269We literally celebrate the founding fathers doing the exact same thing every day.
>>1450214Has it failed us? We are living in literally one of the wealthiest country in the world, our country is number three for income PPP (meaning a persons income compared to cost of living), we are the 20th "happiest" country in the world according to the whr, our average life expectency is 80 years from birth, we are the 9th most educated country in the world and there are so many other facts that quantitatively proved our government hasn't failed us.You are angry because of politics, not actual outcome or anything that is personally affecting you.
>>1450278>You are angry because of politics, not actual outcome or anything that is personally affecting you.People are angry because they're currently having their healthcare, freedom of speech, and money stolen from them by an openly corrupt admin.
>>1450279Let's talk facts. Have they made any laws infringing freedom of speech? Is your health care going to be any worse off than before 2021 when the emergency COVID tax credits were passed and set to expire in 2026?How is your money being stolen, you mean trump is taking your money and pocketing it? Give me some sources and not just some vague talking points
>>1450283>How is your money being stolen, you mean trump is taking your money and pocketing it? Yes, actuallyhttps://www.axios.com/2025/10/21/trump-justice-department-payment-investigations
>>1450298As bad as that would look if it were approved, he filed this lawsuit while he was a private citizen and despite 10 months in office it looks like nothing's been done with it.It appears you are worrying over things that haven't actually happened.
>Trump said that he'd brought "a great lawsuit" against DOJ based on its previous investigations of him, but added that it now "sort of looks bad — I'm suing myself, right?So let me know if anything actually comes of it, because at that point your concern will be valid. Right now it sounds like literally nothing
>>1450283>Have they made any laws infringing freedom of speech?Yes. People have had visas denied because they said shit about Charlie Kirk. They are criminalizing burning the flag, a form of protest the supreme court had held as an expression of free speech. Trump has declared anyone "anti-fascist" to be a terrorist.>Is your health care going to be any worse off than before 2021 when the emergency COVID tax credits were passed and set to expire in 2026?Yes. Insurance rates will double under Trump's repeated gutting of Obamacare and the refusal of senate republicans to do anything about the expiration of tax credits.>How is your money being stolen, you mean trump is taking your money and pocketing it?Inflation is out the ass. Tariffs are taking more and more out of my paycheck while Trump takes my tax dollars to pay himself with. He openly brags about how much income he gets from tariffs even though the populace is ultimately the one who is paying them. This is in addition to the insurance shenanigans mentioned earlier.
>Is your health care going to be any worse off than before 2021 when the emergency COVID tax credits were passed and set to expire in 2026?Its hilarious that shills always phrased Democrats refusing to renew Trumps tax breaks as raising taxes on people, but this case it isn't Republicans taking away your health careI'm sure the shills responses are going to be just as disingenuous
>>1450299>>1450301Literally why would it not be approved? Trump's lawyer is running the DOJ. A moral admin would've dropped the suit by now instead of literally asking HIMSELF for payment.
>>1450259Our nation was founded on immigration and an independent spirit not incest and nationalism, you nazi.
>>1450299The fact that he's been in office for ten months and is still pursuing it makes his status when he filed it irrelevantThe fact that he has so far been unsuccessful in awarding himself hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars while in the White House does not make it a non issue. Police don't let people go for attempting to commit a crime just because they failed.
It costs $15 billion a day to not run, kinda better this way honestly.
>>1450306Our nation was founded by settlers who came here to murder all the browns and take shit from them, a goal at which we were supremely successful. We have never been a nation of immigrants, especially not brown immigrants. The Micks and Wetbacks were allowed in to undercut wages as foreign invaders and for no other reason and they should be killed just like the last batch of browns that was here.>You naziI'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of all this winning, Paco.
>>1450306>Our nation was founded on immigrationNo it fucking wasn't. The settlers weren't immigrants either, retard. They sailed to the US and built their own homes and society from nothing. Immigrants go to already established societies and to live off of the people there.>muh native americansThey didn't have shit. The settlers did more for them than vice versa and they had to put them down because the redskins couldn't stop killing each other just because one tribe didn't like the other
1450324>you have to be 18+ to post on 4chan
>>1450323>>1450324Today on "anons RPing as americans fail american history".
