Why doesn't Aston ever make any money? Everyone agrees their cars are spectacular, how come they can't turn a profit like Ferrari and Porsche can?
Porsche is owned by VAG and makes a lot of money reselling vag shit at insane markups (something like 60%). Ferrari practically gets payed by the FIA to race.
Probably a combination of lowish volume and lack of exclusivity Like it's pretty easy to get an Aston even though they don't make that many.Either they follow the Porsche model and sell 100k midsize SUVs/year or become like Ferrari where you can't buy their cars without an invitation
>>27624828>Why doesn't the gm corvette ever make any money? Everyone agrees their cars are lifestyle cars with sporty styling, how come they can't turn a like sports car can?
>>27624828They're basically reskinned Benzes with 250% mark-ups.
>>27624849kek, Frosty back at it
>>27624849Why would they spend so much money in R&D on the corvette if it was just a lifestyle vehicle? They could just drop a new body on an impala or whatever.
>>27624849Is this the true power of leaf springs?
>>27624926you should see the power of carbon fiber.
>>27624991This never would have happened in a Henry Ford's Mustang
>>27624828 (OP) That badge looks familiar
Oof
Oh no
Please stop
>>27624849>>27624991>simply try to go straight>money stolen
>>27625028>>27625032
>>27624916You're not supposed to question it
>>27624828It's tradition at this point.
>>27624828They need to be owned by a larger auto company to get more economies of scale for shared parts and easing development costs. They already had a deal like that with Ford but it ended after Ford shed all of its overseas brands in ‘08.
>>27625013you should see the Bentley logo
>>27625028>>27625032>>27625023kek, it all makes sense now
>>27625023Why does it look like it was designed by someone that makes fucking sports shoes? All weird lumpy 'performance' shapes and high visibility colors & stitching. It's like driving inside a Nike or something.
>>27624858>They're basically reskinned Benzes with 250% mark-ups.I see you know nothing about cars in general and Aston Martin in particular
>>27624849Is that normally how you win a drag race in the US? Barge the other guy into the weeds?
>>27624991>Hurr durr, real drivers turn off traction and stability controls
If I was going to buy an Aston Martin it would be this.
>>27626148Sadly, Aston Martin are fully customisable as far as colours go. Blame the retard who went mad using the configurator for that abomination
>>27626952Good choice. I have the V8 version - I couldn't justify an extra £30k for a V12 and wouldn't want my wife driving one
>>27624840imagine paying 250k for a rebadged golf with a beetle engine
>their cars are nice!>ignore any mechanical issues
>according to Consumer Reports' annual reliability survey in 2020, Aston Martin was ranked second-to-last among all car brands.lmao
>british cars>remotely goodprobably just a hint above italian cars
>>27624849What game is this
>>27624849The most skilled Corvette drivers
>>27626990Proof? I can't find any CR rating for Aston Martin. They didn't even test the F-Type, which sells in higher volumes
>>27626996>What game is thisRedneck Roadrace
>>27627014Forgot pic
>>27625032>>27625028go woke go broke
who the fuck buys british cars kek
>>27624849I don't know why but i always laugh when I see videos like this of lifestyle cars attempting driving
>>27624828I want to buy an Aston Martin but there are two things stopping me: the horrific depreciation and the service horror stories. I could buy one used but a lot of the appeal is getting the bespoke experience with the exact spec you want.
>>27624858The reliability of the engines and electronics got better because of it at least
>>27627611The electronics I'll concede. But the engine reliability? Where did you get that from?There's no EMS bearings to fail, and no history of bore-scoring, unlike a certain model from Zuffenhausen
>>27624840>payed
>>27627836Don't expect a cretin who has no idea of who does what within the VAG group to have the ability to spell. I doubt he can breathe unaided, and a stick of gum would render him immobile
>>27624828I have to commend Aston for having one of the more honest SUVs in its segment. Yes, it has considerable influence from Mercedes, but not nearly as much as the Urus/Bentayga take from the Q8/7, or the Cullinan from the X7. They should seriously consider adding another larger SUV with the new V12 they're producing
>>27626107Why
>>27624849what the fuck was that guy doing
hopefully the indians fuck off now
>>27624828NOOOOOOO HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED??!!??! THEY ARE BRITAIN'S MARQUE!!
>>27628946This is so tedious - every thread on British cars in general, or Aston Martin in particular, some midwit posts one of those inspection plates.I realise I've given you the (You) you wanted, and you'll dribble and chortle to yourself like the idiot you are, but the fact you posted it reflects more on you than it does on me - this is /b/-tier trolling.Now run along and do some colouring-in while adults are discussing cars. And don't eat your crayons
>>27624828They depreciate like shit and are inferior to their competition. If you're spending $250k+ on a car, the other brands will be faster and nicer than what you get from Aston.
>>27629460>english car built by a poothen its not a fucking ENGLISH car is it NIGGER
>>27629983>>>/pol/
>>27629983>built by a pooBut it's not.I get that you have reading comprehension issues, and this is your very best effort at trolling
How is Ferrari worth more than GM/Ford/Honda/VW ??
>>27629983Can you tell me where the All White Stormfront Car Company is based? Because that's clearly where you must have got your car. You do have a car, right?
>>27625028>>27625032kek
>>27630037>Make believe numbersI hate international (((finance and stock markets))) so much is unreal.
>>27625028Oh me oh my.
>>27629460seethe
>>27630037Derivatives markets divorce the idea of real-world value from economic value. It's why the richest people in all the world (rothschilds) literally do nothing of importance all day every day while the guys keeping NYC's water supply from poisoning 20 million people can't actually afford to live in the city.
>>27624916It's like buying a truck even if you never haul anything. Despite most corvette never being used to their full potential, the allure that they could sells them.
>>27624828>Everyone agrees their cars are spectacularlolwho are you calling everyone
>>27630222Truggs mentioned for no reason for the 84,726th time today
>>27630037You mean each individual Ferrari stock is worth more, which is probably because there's less of them
>>27630238No, this is by market cap. Ferrari as a company is worth more than companies that produce way more cars, just like Tesla, because finance is retarded.
>>27630251they probably make more profits since ferraris are just unobtainium markup
>>27630251Too simplistic. You have to factor in items like the level of debt; the competition in the market place; marketplace trends and the ability of the company to either meet them or drive them; the new product pipeline; sensitivity to market downturn; sensitivity to interest rate rises; the financial stability of their customer base; the desirability of the shares.I don't think Ferrari needed a bail-out during the last big crash.
>>27630285(cont)The reason Tesla stock was so high, even when they were making losses, was that the market believed Musk's hype that they were a technology company creating a paradigm shift. The reason the stock is falling is the market is realising that Tesla are just another auto maker who have to screw the metal together and sell it, and the electric vesicle space is now filling up as the legacy car makers catch up, and other, lower-cost companies enter the market (BYD) with cheaper manufacturing costs; plus having watched and learned from Tesla's initial problems and successes.The one big advantage that Tesla has IMHO is the Supercharger network. The Genius Musk has just laid off all the staff that worked on it. Go figure.And do not believe his hype about self-driving cars - the only way that can work is in an isolated environment. They're decades away from being smart enough to mix it with the average human driver
>>27630023fuck off back to re ddit cocksucker i spent 25 years in the 4chan>>27630030u compromised>>27630083the thing with vw whatever happened there
>>27627836Your language is retarded is the problem. Here's another example; how do you spell godot?
>>27625081based sulayem forbidding gay shit in F1
>>27630455>I spent 25 years in the 4chanIt hasn't been around for 25 yearsFucking moron
>>27630251>>27630285>>27630300Tesla actually makes cars, they produce almost all of the parts on the car. Ferrari does a lot more than any of their competitors, they make their own engines at least. A company like Mclaren or Aston Martin is just doing the assembly and marketing, they don't make most of the car, it's all suppliers. Suppliers are all making a decent profit or they will just not renew their contracts, so these types are brands are very constrained in how much profit they can make, and more susceptible to the market cooling down.
>>27627020I don't see Aston Martin, or Jaguar for that matter, in that rating. >>27627014 Anon was right, you're talking right out of your ass. But, let's not kid ourselves, consumer report isn't a reliable source at all.
>>27629983You're such an idiot you can't even racist correctly when you shitpost and bait. Ahmed Munir is not a poo name, it's a sandnigger name. The guy that inspected it is Arab, not Indian.
>>27624828>>27630037You clearly don't understand Ferrari's business model. They aren't a car company at all. They are a merchandise company that has a very prestigious name, and their primary focus with their profits from merchandising is to fund the race team. The car business is a side-business meant to keep the brand aspirational. Most of Ferrari's profits come from merchandise. Don't believe me? Think about all those Puma shoes with Ferrari logos, backpacks, video games, notebooks, etc. Everything with the Ferrari badge in it is a revenue source for the company. Enzo himself didn't care about the road-car business. It was something he had to do to be able to fund the race-team. This is why when Ferruccio Lamborghini complained about the clutch in his Ferrari, Enzo didn't give two flying fucks about it. The road-cars were not the priority. I'd bet that if Enzo were alive right now, seeing how profitable the merchandise side of the business has become, he would end sales of the road-cars altogether because the merchandise would be more than enough to fund the race-team.
>>27624840/o/ is possibly the only board that could think a Porsche is at all comparable to their German econobox that they still have to pay German prices to repair.
>>27626148I for one enjoy an interior that isn't fully in resale black.
>>27630588>Ferrari does a lot more than any of their competitors, Not true. Trim? Outsourced. Transmissions? Outsourced. Electrical systems? Outsourced?
>>27630822The trim isn't, yeah a lot of the electrical is Bosch/Marelli but that's true of every manufacturer other than Tesla. I was only comparing to their competitors anyway, none of them make transmissions (maybe some Koenigseggs).
>>27630222that sounds really, really retarded.
>>27630854I don't think Ferrari has a trimshop in the same way Aston does. And Aston makes its twin-turbo V12.
>>27630868Ferrari even made Maseratis trim in that era: source, I worked on both ~10 years ago, and all of the trim famously failed (sticky interior). The plastics have the cavallino on them.
>>27630883The same is true for every manufacturer that used soft-touch plastics at the time. I've seen the same in BMW 7 and 8 series of the time, Porsches, Volkswagens, Lamborghinis, etc.
>>27630883That was 10 years ago. Aston has a trimshop for the majority of it's interior trim, especially the seats, today. Biggest outsourced items are the IP panels with the invisible tear seam for the airbags
>>27628946Lmao
>>27624828>how come they can't turn a profit like Ferrari and Porsche can?Porsche and Ferrari have won lemans in the last 60 years. Literally the people who would've been able to watch the one time Aston won are mostly dead now.
>>27630854Marelli is part of the Fiat group, which has a stake in Ferrari
>>27626955>>27630749It's not the colors that bother me the most, it's the shapes. It looks squishy and amorphous in a strange way.
>>27628946Their good cars are still built with white hands.
>>27630569your mom has ooooooooooooooooooooooh
>>27631291His son is a femboy getting his asshole turned into a rotten tomato by Tyrone
>>27631291Read the plate. The car was built by the same team that builds the non-AMRs
>>27632075And you're jealous
>>27630868Aston abandoned their in-house engines in 2018, it's all Mercedes now. And they ended V12 sales last year because Mercedes ended production on their V12.
>>27633620The Aston V12 is nothing to do with the Mercedes V12, and Aston have announced that their V12 will live on in low volume models, like the new Vanquish that’s being teased at this very moment
>>27629460Fuck off Ahmed :3
I'd be fucking pissed if my Aston was inspected by Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed instead of Sir Nigel Cunningham IV I mean what the fuck man
>>27630660Was this written by chatgpt?Anyways nah, pic relatedPlus why would they bother with an suv if they were only a brand, why not only build hyper cars
>>27624840they get extra money from the FIA
>>27626991At least Italian cars are sexy looking, even at their worst
Aston Martin has like 7 different models. And they barely make any cars. Might have something to do with it. It's not the first choice of most people who have that kind of money to spend. Might have something to do with it
>>27633643Their old 'double Mondeo' V12 didn't meet Euro5 standards and they couldn't afford to build engines in-house anymore. The V12 in the Valkyrie isn't theirs, Cosworth builds it.
>>27637302>Vantage>DB11>DBXValkyrie, Valhalla, and Vulcan are all vapourware. The boutique stuff are all just rebodied Vantages and DB11s.
>>27638899The V12 in the Valkyrie is indeed a Cosworth-built engine; but it isn’t the same twin-turbo V12 that will be going into the new Vanquish - that’s a development of the engine introduced in the DB11 (AE31? Not sure). So Aston will actually have two, different V12’s. Cool, eh?.
>>27638903DBX is an entirely different platform. DB12 and Vantage tubs do have common components. DBSS (and probably new Vanquish) is basically a DB12 shell with carbon-fibre skin panels
>>27630037Because stocks are entirely disconnected from consumerism in todays markets.
>>27631291This guy stots.
>>27624858The real Aston Martins are using their home made V12 turbo charged engine, cope.
>>27624991Cold tyres + low skill.
>>27624849lol, they were taking off slow as shit in a straight line and the boomer can't even handle that. my 99 camry is faster than they were taking off.
>>27625023jesus christ its hideous>>27626148because all cars now are designed by niggers. this is why they all have 20" bling bling wheels and really aggressive grills.
>>27640249>my 99 camry is faster than they were taking off.But your 99 Camry couldn’t make the torque required to break the traction of those rear tyres
>>27624849I promise he’s running the tires that came on the car in 2007 bc they only have 5k miles.
>>27640317if those tires are breaking loose accelerating at grandma on her way to sunday meeting speeds, then lmao
>>27630883uhh wait till the fake leather inside every fucking car sold today ages 10 years
>>27640382I see you don’t understand what happens if you break traction through excess torque. Not surprising as you own a FWD shitbox
>>27625028>>27625032>how do we appeal to women>Should we actually see what women buyers want?>NO! We should have a panel of people who only care about a high salary to just says confirmation biases to what the management already thinks women want!>*inevitable sales flop*
>>27640450I understand exactly what happens, you zero reading comprehension retard. If you're breaking traction while accelerating slow as fuck, there is a serious problem with your car.
>>27640494Have you ever seen an AA-fueler do a burn-out? They don’t seem to accelerate that fast, do they? I wonder why that is?
>>27640494Or you’re just asking for too much torque and the tyres can’t handle it.It’s probably not a pheomenon that you’re familiar with, driving an Accord as you do (assuming I’m still addressing the same anon)
>>27640494Wrong way round>If you're breaking traction then you will accelerate slow as fuckFTFY
>>27640582>i'm roasting my tires off for 300 feet>somehow there is zero smoke
>>27626960Porsches share no parts in common with the golf and they don't have a beetle engine.
>>27640645Don't confuse the poor lamb with facts. Can't you tell he's a Meme Master and SuperTrole?
>>27640610You've obviously never heard of the "Circle of Traction"Use it all up trying to go forward and there's nothing left for lateral grip
>>27624828who owns the comnpany? maybe they are just a tax shelter?or a money laundering operation?
>>27640722It’s a UK plc - it’s owned by its shareholders
>>27630037>ticker symbol is RACElel
>>27626960and it is much faster than your fav shitbox or supercar. lmao >>27640645i know right lmao
>>27627804There are no report issues on the rebadged benz cars. Many reports on the real Aston Martin car with Aston Martin engine. Ones with the benz V8 - no issue so far.
>>27628946
>>27641497>Many reports on the real Aston Martin car with Aston Martin engineReally? Where?And there are already problems with coil packs and injectors on AMG engines