If you drive faster than the posted speed limit then you have absolutely no right to lecture left lane campers about the law. You are a hypocrite and I do not move for road bullies.
>>27624953Left lane is for passing regardless of speed
>>27624972Im talking about people who drive constantly over the limit. Most of the time they are camping the left lane too just faster. They have no right to complain.
>>27624953studies show that people who camp in the left lane are pedophiles
>>27624988how did you know??? also im trans btw>t. op
>>27624996>how did you know???the studies
>>27624988>>27624996>>27625022Stay mad and stay behind me, turbo nerds.
>>27624981Can ya read English, son?
>>27625037>passes you on the rightnothing personnel
>>27624953>you have absolutely no right to lecture left lane campers about the lawThe law literally states you cannot block traffic in the left lane, speed doesn't matter, dumbass
>>27624953>left lane campersI had a guy camping the left lane, with no cars in front of him for at least a mile or two, brake check me when I unintentionally tailgated him waiting to pass traffic in the center lane going slower than us both. Flipped him off when I passed him on the right and I watched him chimp out in my rear view mirror throwing hand signals to pull over and flashing his brights. Even began to follow me for a while and kept following me after exiting until I took a route specifically to annoy him and he broke off. I wonder how his girlfriend in the passenger seat was feeling
>>27625060Can you?
>>27625120>speed limit precludes "keep right except to pass" laws>has no idea what following the flow of traffic means
>>27625107You're missing the point. The people who complain are speeding and camping the lane too not just to pass. They just lecture others because they got inconvenienced and can't see that they break the law consistently too.
>>27625126>Still misses the pointLrn2read.
>>27625135>>has no idea what following the flow of traffic meansAnon, I assure you no one is getting handed out tickets when the flow of traffic is above the speed limit
>>27625129>You're missing the point.I'm not missing the point, you don't understand the point BLOCKING traffic is illegal.
>>27625145Literally nobody on the entire planet has ever gotten a speeding ticket for doing 5 over, especially on the highway/freeway. Pretty much everybody is doing 5-15 above on a regular basis. It's called the "spirit" of the law as opposed to the letter, which some anons don't understand.
>>27625169>Pretty much everybody is doing 5-15 above on a regular basis.In Virginia you can get reckless driving for 15 over.
>>27625172Wrong as always
>>27624953Low quality bait. Slow day on reddit?
>>27625179That's still crazy.
>>27625188They "can" charge you, but I imagine it's pretty context sensitive. I got lasered doing 22 over, because the road had just dropped to a 60mph speed limit, but the cop wrote it up as a "less than 10 over" as I was unironically just following traffic. Not everybody is always doing 15 over, but since there's that legal precedent of "well if it's less than 10 over it's not a big deal" lots of people are regularly going 8-9mph over on the highway.
>>27625202Still how do you justify going 20 over on a freeway as "reckless" when speed limit of 55-65 is purely for fuel economy reasons
>>27625209No one will give you a definitive answer. Stopping distance could be argued but that's also down to the driver not making sure to account for the distance between them and the vehicle in front of them. It's understood in many places that it's actually going slower than everybody else that's dangerous compared to everybody going 20 over and in a few of those places will ticket you for impeding the flow of traffic if you're traveling slower than anybody else
>>27625209It also seems insane that "over 85" can be deemed reckless "regardless of the speed limit" when there are 80mph highways
>>27625250It’s just that Virginia is extremely dumb about it.
>>27625037keep raping kids and making people mad I guess
>>27624953I do because you are either passing or you are not, speed is irrelevant, that's why civilized states have signs like this to remind you.Everyone has their own idea of fast enough, that's the problem. With this you're either right or wrong, passing or not>>27625101Usually only do that when I'm in the right lane to begin with passing on the right is very dangerous.Passed a semi in the center passing lane on the left, but just caught a glimpse of a dude going to pass the semi on the right. I have a light of sight to my intended lane, right lane passer doesntHe absoltely jumped right in front of that semi with me halfway into the lane with my signal on. Had I not expected that, itwould have been a wreck in front of a semi.Out of the three of us, only I was changing lanes properly.>>2762512076 is posted at 45mph and doing that makes you a great danger to yourself and everyone else. Probably should be reposted, but tha'ts not the point
>>27624972>regardless of speedThat's not how it works. That sign means don't linger on the left lane below the speed limit. Speeding is still illegal. You're not impeding the left lane if you're going the speed limit. Unless there is an emergency vehicle behind you, especially with sirens on.On that topic, passing on opposing two lane roads is allowed if you there is a tractor or horse drawn carriage or whatever in front of you going 30 below the speed limit and you're able to pass them quickly and safely within the speed limit. When they say you're allowed to pass, it doesn't mean you can floor it and go up to 120mph into oncoming traffic to pass someone going the posted speed limit.
>>27625323>You're not impeding the left lane if you're going the speed limit.that is not what impede means you retard
>>27625352The sign isn't meant to imply that public roads are a race track. You can take it literally all you want, but the law doesn't consider "impeding" street racers an actual impediment to traffic flow. In fact, by slowing your unsafe ass down I'm saving everyone else from the congestion you will cause when you crash, so it would be a bigger impediment if I didn't block your street racing nigger ass from barelling into a family SUV and killing everyone.
>>27625396>"impeding" street racersgo to bed grandpa
>>27624953Get the fuck out of the left lane, retard.
>>27625323No, it means pass or keep right. Speed is in fact irrelevent. Passing or not is what matters.If you are not in the far right lane and are not passing, then you are in the wrong every time>>27625352You are not passing in a passing lane and by definition, wrong>>27625402Again we trot out the 'not touching yooooooouu' example from childhood, point being the one who ''''wasnt touching'''' got beat, not the kid who snapped.Right or wrong, and fuck em, but when you camp in a passing lane, you absoletly encourage unsafe passing, underpassing, tailgating, weaving, and all manners of agressive behavior.If you need a thrill, go standin a buysy doorway if you're brave enough outsitde your cage, but do not clog a passing lane
>>27625396If the flow of traffic is doing 75 and you are doing 65 you are being about as unsafe at driving at 85 since you are fucking up traffic. Doubly so if your ass is in the left lane.
Imagine being a dork that doesn't just drive 85 even when everyone else is and actually drives 20 slower than traffic
>>27625421No you don't get it - this one particular random person gets to decide the absolute maximum speed on the road (whether his speedometer is even correct notwithstanding). Every other person on the road actually doesn't count
>>27624953>others do wrong>therefore I will continue doing wrong tooWhy are nonwhites allowed to post here?
>>27625421I had a larger post and deleted the important part that addressed this. My bad. It boils down to what this anon said though >>27625415>Passing or not is what matters.So if you're caught up in the middle of a street race, then you can't legally pass and must stay on the right lane. You're right about that.But if you're in a 55 and the guy on the right is doing 54, then you can go 55 until you pass him. Once you've safely passed, you have to move out of the left lane.
>>27625437>guy on the right is doing 54, then you can go 55you are actual fucking scum. Why are you even on the road? Take the bus you are just a massive inconvenience to everyone around you
>>27625444Don't blame the player, blame the game. Kill your local cop or politican or something. Well, write a couple of letters first kindly asking them to increase the speed limits if you don't like it.
>>27625457That’s why you generally get 5-10 over
>>27625457Have you ever heard the phrase "actions speak louder than words"?
>>27625444Speed limits are for subhumans who can't self govern and can't figure out the safest speed for any given road, it's common demononater bullshit and you should be thankful those of us who don't need them don't run your off the road and eat your flesh.I'm going to go faster than you, I am going to pass, then I'm gonna keep right until I find the next person it feels right to pass, and you're not gonna die because I did that. It's called traffic flow.If this country could exercise lane discipline, we wouldn't need speed limits at allhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd8PyH7OtNo&list=FLdpFXcz87Y1SQ-iewbGm91A&index=97&t=10s&pp=gAQB8AUB
>>27625457>write a couple of letters first kindly asking them to increase the speed limits if you don't like it.They are already not enforcing the speed limit. Only boomers slow down when a cop is also on the road.
>>27625437>But if you're in a 55 and the guy on the right is doing 54, then you can go 55 until you pass him.no fucking wonder it's a nightmare to drive since 2020, holy fuck
>>27625483Based video, middle lane campers seething that they're just left lane campers.
>>27624972Why would that law take precedence over the speed limit
>>27625582Passing on the right is more dangerous than exceeding the speed limit.
>>27625582>Why would that law take precedence over the speed limitYou don't get to decide traffic enforcement, allow the correct people to do their job.
>>27625594>>27625586Don't pass on the right then. Also post source
>>27625596>Also post sourceSource for what? The existence of police officers? Or how you aren't allowed to take their job on a whim?
>>27625596Don’t obstruct the designated passing lane then
>>27625596>Don't pass on the right then.How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
>>27625594Exactly, so don't assume the guy in front of you is doing anything illegal
>>27625120That’s a suggestion.And a shady method to make money for little counties.
>>27625648>Exactly, so don't assume the guy in front of you is doing anything illegalNor is the guy riding your ass. But you two lovers sure make for bad traffic just because you won't move out of other people's way.Stop boomerizing traffic.
I'm a little sad if I can't hit 100mph on my morning commute
>>27624972And the assumption is that the traffic being passed is going under the speed limit.
>>27625769That is not your job or place to determine.
>>27625126Speed limit is the basis of all other traffic laws.You are not allowed to exceed the speed limit because "following the flow of traffic".If a cop pulled you over for doing 80 and you said "but the people in front of me were doing 80 and the person behind me wanted to do 80", you'd still get a ticket and he'd call you an idiot.
>>27625151Post one example of someone ever being fined for "blocking" traffic which is exceeding the speed limitAnd no, emergency vehicles flashing their lisirens don't count
>>27625776>You are not allowed to exceed the speed limit because "following the flow of traffic".The drivers handbook begs to differ. Merging into fast traffic at the speed limit on your road test is a fail.
>>27625415>No, it means pass or keep right. Speed is in fact irrelevent. Passing or not is what matters.So it's then legal to go twice the posted speed limit to pass someone?
>>27625776>Speed limit is the basis of all other traffic laws.>Source: My assNot for you to determine or enforce
>>27625594Ironic you say this.
>>27625791>Ironic you say this.Care to elaborate or are you just using words to have fun?
>>27625772It's the law.If I'm passing someone in the left lane while doing the speed limit I'm not moving over because some nigger in a stolen hellcat is flying up behind me.
>>27625795>It's the law.Go ahead and follow all the laws, slower traffic that isn't keeping right.
>>27625782And you wouldn't fail for exceeding the speed limit? Really? Show me one driving instructor who would let the test subject speed lmfao.>>27625788It's for police to determine and enforce, which they do.
>>27625793>left lane is for passing *regardless* of speed>You don't get to decide traffic enforcement, allow the correct people to do their jobIf you can't see the irony then you're probably too stupid to be legally allowed behind the wheel of a car.
>>27625796I shall follow the lawYou are speeding up behind me recklessly and my life feels threatened so I am legally in the right to shoot to kill in an act of self defence
>>27625797>It's for police to determine and enforce, which they do.But anon, they don't do anything about traffic flowing above the posted speed limit.
>>27625805you won't do shit bitch well except seethe in threads like this
>>27625806They do where I live. And so do the fixed speed cameras.Last time I checked no such fixed speed camera exists which takes into account the "flow of traffic".Nor are there any fixed cameras which police whether people are "illegally" in the left lane.
>>27625812>They do where I live.Then let the process work and let traffic pass you.
>>27625797>And you wouldn't fail for exceeding the speed limit? Really? Show me one driving instructor who would let the test subject speed lmfao.I sped the entire time during my road test because I was going with the flow of traffic. Gee no wonder there's so many fucking busriders here or the select few that actually have licenses took 5 tries to get it. >Merging. When you're getting ready to merge, adjust your speed in the acceleration lane to the speed of the road you're merging on to. Activate your left turn signal and look for an entry space in the in the flow of traffic. Do not assume that vehicles on the other road will make space for you.
>>27625812Why are we arguing with a busrider like you?
>>27625815Nah, I'll stay in the left lane because I'm crusing at the speed limit And it's too much effort to jump over every 30 seconds to pass someone going below the speed limit.In fact I can see someone up ahead that I'll need to pass soon, so I'm technically still passing.Keep seething and riding your brakes tho lmao kek
>>27625819Does your driver's handbook also say to follow the posted speed limit signs?
>>27625830>NahIt has nothing to do with the speed limit. If you cared about the law or the distinction between right and wrong, you'd follow all the laws.
>>27625830If he's speeding and you're impeding the left lane, you're still both in the wrong. 2 wrongs don't make a right anon
>>27625843Is someone who smokes weed an equal level of criminal to someone who sells heroin to children?In this case and in the case of left lane hogging, one is better than the other.I'll let you decide. The statistics on speeding deaths are widely available.
>>27625835No. It just says not following them is illegal. It still doesn't change the fact that not accelerating properly into traffic that's exceeding the speed limit is a big no no.
>>27625858You are causing much more danger left lane hogging, having to pass on the right causes lots of issues and increases proximity with other vehicles.
>>27625859>illegal There you go. Now stop breaking the law you literal nigger.
>>27625858>I don't care if your wife is in labor I'M in line first REEEEEEEEEEDriving with a mental disability is also discouraged fir safety reasons, but here you are.
>>27625863Prove it. Post statistics. Majority of road related deaths are due to speeding, if not from DUI.
>>27625866>wants to speed and risk killing his wife and unborn childLiterally a nigger with no sense of potential risks and consequences for illegal behaviour.
>>27625865Washing your car is "illegal". Most of your chinese cartoons are "illegal". There's obviously a difference between that and murder.
>>27625582Because there is only one lane of travel and you are not in it>>27625776>You are not allowed to exceed the speed limit because "following the flow of traffic".absolutely untrue >>27625784Not of your concern, please leave the passing lane so I can return right>>27625801Anyone with eyeballs can see the problem with left and center lane campers, nothing wrong with going a little fast. Pick a better hill to die on faggot
>>27625871You should be happy to let them speed them. The result is the same, you need to follow the law not impede the left lane.
>>27625867I have to prove being logical? You shouldn’t have to prove anything for this as it is so painfully clear. If you left lane hog you are causing everybody behind you to bunch up and get closer than they should. Instead of people safely going around you 5-10 mph faster than you with plenty of room they are bumper to bumper waiting. It’s like nascar during restarts with too many people in one place instead of doing their own thing.
>>27625873Washing car is not illegal.>>27625883>absolutely untrueThen enjoy arguing against fines from a fixed speed camera.>>27625892Not my problem. They shouldn't be breaking the law.
>>27625904>fixed speed camera.Literally never seen one in my life. What miserable hellscape do you live in?
>>27625871>wants to speed and risk killing his wife and unborn childIf your "concern" was genuine, you wouldn't be blocking them, because that is also dangerous to them. It is no your motivation for blocking traffic. You block the passing lane because you are an idiot who lacks anger management skills. That lack of anger management is why you haven't been hired to patrol traffic.>>27625904>Then enjoy arguing against fines from a fixed speed camera.>>27625815>Then let the process work and let traffic pass you.
This thread is actually hilarious though.OP was talking about how people who speed also camp the left lane and believe their version of left lane camping is justified.Now there's a bunch of speeding left lane campers seething because they are the exact same as the left lane campers they despise so much.Whether you're doing 50 or 65, left lane camping is still left lane camping.Now seethe!
I got a ticket recently and will literally never speed more than 5 over again. My brain has been permanently rewired.My question is, how are people retarded enough to get several tickets within a short period of time and not change their behavior? You have to have a pretty low iq to not understand this shit
>>27625918>You block the passing lane because you are an idiot who lacks anger management skills.Ironic coming from the speeder who camps the left lane and always expects it to be empty as if it's your own personal road kek.
>>27625919>speeding left lane campersI prefer the right lane but assholes like "Mr honorary undeputized traffic speed enforcer" here snarls up traffic for everyone. Speeders get off the road faster, I like that about them.
>>27625926>Ironic coming from the speeder who camps the left lane and always expects it to be empty as if it's your own personal road kek.>>27625929>I prefer the right lane but assholes like "Mr honorary undeputized traffic speed enforcer" here snarls up traffic for everyone. Speeders get off the road faster, I like that about them.
>>27624953The posted speed limit is a joke.
>>27625926The fuck are you talking about? You pass then get back in the right lane. Rinse and repeat
>>27625250I got hit with reckless and got my license suspended for 1 week for doing 90 mph on rt 3 in new jersey outside of giants stadium. At 1 am. Male judge had an earring in like a faggot
>>27625921>how are people retarded enough to get several tickets within a short periodBecause nobody does? I speed nearly 100% of the time I'm on the road and haven't gotten a ticket in years. It's crazy, almost like most normal competent drivers are already regularly driving above the speed limit. It's literally you who needs to get gud.
>>27625921When I drive everything feels like it's slow motion, 60 feels like 30, 80 feels like 40. I try not to but sometimes when you're just going down a long highway it feels nice to push the gas, feel yourself speed up, and then coast back down. Especially if there's nobody around. It shouldn't even be illegal. Weaving in traffic should be but somehow the niggers and spics who do it are untouchable where I live, cops are too scared to stop them.
Speed limits in the US of A were consolidated and began to be seriously enforced in 1957.Cars have gotten a little faster lately and yet the limit remains the same.Somebody had to feed them pigs I guess.
>>27624953It's more like this.>InterstateLeft lane: I want to drive fast or my exit isn't until 10+ more miles.Middle lane: I just want to listen to music and get to my job on time.Right lane: I just got off the exit and or I'm about to get off to the next exit.>FreewayLeft lane: KILL ALL NIGGERS.Right lane: I want to stop at the ice cream store.
>>27625919I have driven from Washington to Ohio twice in my life. It's a 36 hour drive normally, and probably half of that time was swapping between the right and middle lane at about +5 or +10 over the limit because dumb niggers want to go 95 mph on a fucking interstate with only 3 lanes. I'm a naturally defensive driver and let those lane swerving retards ride straight into speed traps all the time. It's hilarious with dumb faggots remove their carburetor to make their car louder and then swerve in and out of traffic +40mph/hr faster than the speed limit only for me to drive by them 12 minutes later as they're pulled over the side of a road by a state trooper.bikers don't apply to this rule, most cops don't go after them.
>>27626012>remove their carburetorwhat
>>27626029>whatI think he just wanted somebody to reply.
isn't the person going slow in the left hand lane ruining everyone's commute the bully?if the other drivers get to pass then everyone gets to go on their merry way unbothered
>>27625904>Washing car is not illegal.Washing your car on the street or even in your driveway or garage is illegal in most cities.
>>27625776Meanwhile in reality cops are chewing on donuts while cruising 80 Shut the fuck up and drive faster, if you're a scared little bitch turn in your license. Speed limits are too low in the US and neanderthals like you are impeding progress because you think the speed limit should never change? Why? BECAUSE DAS DA LAW DURRR as if laws can't ever change if people deem it necessary. It's an arbitrary number and is used for revenue collection. If you defend the speed limit you're a pawn of the zog and should kill yourself.
>>27625965Not really, i still arrive at all my destinations on time. Speed all you want, im just referring to people that somehow continuously fuck up by going 20+ over right after they've already gotten a slew of tickets. Like what is going on in their head, not much i imagine
>>27626104Are these people in the room with is right now?
>>27626082Cops are allowed to speed that doesn't mean you are NiggerThe real reason why speed limits will never increase is because dumb cattle such as yourself always speed and create massive amounts of revenue for the police So go fuck yourself you retarded nigger
>>27625863>having to pass on the right>having to pass
>>27625919If you're going faster than the traffic on the right you're passing, not camping the lane
>>27626082>It's an arbitrary number and is used for revenue collection.This. If you knowingly speed you're either a tool or a fool.You either:Get caught and give the government your money = ToolOr can't afford the fine and go to jail = Fool
>>27625977A 1958 Impala Turbo Thrust could hit 120mph from the factory. Speed limits are a geometric design thing, to make limits higher you need straighter roads or higher superelevation on curves. That is expensive and also fails to address the issue of obsoleting slower vehicles. The engineer goes for a happy medium where safety is maximized.
>>27626225didn't read
LMAO there are people that are not driving +20mph at all times.Imagine that there are people living entire lives being cowardly weenies like this.
>>27624953nigger
Shitshow of a thread. Bumping to shed light of the effects of illeteracy on society.
This sign should be given to all highways worldwide.
>>27624953Left lane is for passingMiddle lane is for cruisingRight lane is for entrance/exitThis is the only reasonable configuration
>>27624953Red: Speed governor set 55mphYellow: Governor 60Green: Governor 65you're welcome>>27624972lmao
>>27626056Is driving the speed limit "ruining" commuting to you?
>>27626975it is because i dont want to sit behind your ugly shitbox.
>>27626618You know it's funny. The sign you posted literally does not exist. Meanwhile, in the actual physical reality we live in, signs like >>27624972and>>27625060Are literally all over the place (and usually in pairs). Almost like they have to beat you dumb motherfuckers over the head with this concept because YOU WON'T GET OUT OF THE LEFT LANE
>>27625169This is a daily occurrence in cuckstralia 3kmh over is enough to be pulled over fined and have license points (demerits) taken away
>>27627068>cuckstraliaI mean, yeah it's literally a prison continent of undesirables.
>>27624953>Cops in my town drive silver F150's>Buy silver F150 of the same body style>Everyone now thinks I'm an unmarked patrol car and moves out of my way when I drive fastGet rekt faggot. Left lane is for passing gay aids homos who drive hybrids and econo shitboxes slow on the freeway.
I'm gonna say it...Here it comes...Are you ready?>You cannot legally drive faster than the posted speed limit.
>>27626135Cope, the post. Drive faster, 90% of people are speeding and don't get tickets.>Only my zog protectors are allowed to speed!Kill yourself>>27626186Secret option C:Neither happens.I've consistently been speeding atleast 10 over the limit since I've been driving, even near cops and I've never gotten a ticket or been pulled over because literally everyone else is doing the same thing and nobody gives a shit.Kill yourself, bootlicker
>>27627319>Drives faster than the posted speed limitOh no... Anyway.
>>27627319Oops, I did it again. What ya gonna do about it?
>>27627334>>27627336Also you:>Y-you can't drive in the left lane! That's illegal!
>>27627342>>27627336inb4 some cope about getting a ticket so that the illusion of a perfect little world where evil speeders are always punished for deviating from the sheep is maintained in their headI will KEEP speeding. And I will NOT get a ticket no matter how much these rule cucks cry about it.Cope and seethe niggers!
>>27627353You will not speed because I will block you in the left lane driving the posted speed limit.
>>27627358You and every other retard who thinks like you wants to drive faster than everyone else despite sticking to speed limit. You know what that leaves open? The right lane where you fucking belong. It makes no difference to me, it's simply reversed. Enjoy getting passed from the right and I will enjoy you seething in my rear view mirror. What are you gonna do? Catch up to me? Not when I drive 2 mph above the speed limit you're not, buckaroo.Just goes to show slow drivers just want to bother others, but in reality, a slow car is no obstacle to any good driver. >inb4 more imaginary cope when in reality I do this every single and always get away with it
>>27627382*Waits for the last second to "courteously" move over to the right the exact same time you do*Haha, oops
>>27625904Bro I've seen people pulled over doing the limit on 76 AND 676>>27625926No, I expect the passing LANES to be mostly empty so I can use them to PASS and return rightI fuckinghate having to pass in the far left lane when all I wanted to do was pass the guy in front of me in the far right lane>>27625958Anything above Trenton is NYC, sorry>>27625994GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE PAASING LSNES IF YOU ARE NOT FUCKING PSASSINGJUST BECAUSE ALL YOU IDOTS DO IT DOES NOT MSKE IT CORRECT>>27626183If traffic in the center lane is going 60 and you're going 61 with me behind you with no one in front,you are now campingwithin reason,return right please>>27626835FUCKING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>Right lane is for entrance/exitThese are atually called on and off ramps, nigger>>27627382Often I find myslef in the goodboy lane needing to pass, but there's a nigger cruising in the center passing lane, so now I must get in the left most lane, sometimes thisis the fourth lane over, and now Iam going so fast that I findit hard to integrate back toward the good boy lane, especially weiyth said center lane niggers
>>27624981IF you're going 85 in a 65 then sure. I'll allow that. Otherwise go back into the right lane.
>>27624953I overtake slowfags no matter what lane they're on.>y-you can't just pass from the right!Do not care.
>>27626183depends. do you have other cars behind you while you inch ahead of vehicles to the right? no longer passing, but obstructing the flow. do you have no other cars somewhat close behind you? cool, move back over when able or once traffic behind you closes that gap
>>27627382>What are you gonna do? Catch up to me? Not when I drive 2 mph above the speed limit you're notkek'd & wrekt
>>27627319>Be Californian>Have "Basic speed law" -- You cannot drive faster than it is safe>In order to post a speed limit, local governments must first conduct an engineering study justifying the speed limit.>Due to budget constraints my city cannot write speeding tickets for appx 60% of surface streets.Ackshully that was only true until a couple of years ago, they've since cought up with their engineering surveys and we can be ticketed on most major thoroughfares.
>>27624953Guaranteed responses as you fags have never left your own state.Protip: You are all wrong. Now go for a road trip OUTSIDE your own county, hm?
>>27627526>Left lane only for turningOf course. I turn into the fucking barrier. Or I turn left in 40 miles when the highway ends!
where I live the speed limit is 70, but 60 for trucks in the right lane. My car is far more feul efficient at 60 so I use the truck lane, but I still get people tail gating me and raging out that I'm going 10 under when there is a semi right in front of me and all other lanes are clear.
>>27627449Just maje sure you're aware of the danger and drive carefully>>27627526Appealing to authority, bs. Traffic flows the same everywhere, regardless of law. I cannot pass if you're camping. No one can move over like you retards cry about near on ramps if you're camping.You shouldn't need a fucking law to tell you, if you're in the way, MOVE
>>27624953That's alright I'll aggressively and dangerously pass you on the right or on the shoulder and cut you off
"flow of traffic" is for when there are too many cars to do the speed limit or other factors, like weather, cause you to slow down. It doesn't allow you to speed.
>>27628222How do you explain the inexplicable phenomenon that a majority of traffic is regularly driving over the speed limit?
>>27628239The majority of traffic is breaking the law.
>>27628242And yet, by definition, they still define the "flow" of traffic
>>27628381Keeping up with the flow of traffic doesn't mean you are allowed to speed. It means don't try to do the speed limit when everyone else is doing 15 under because of the weather conditions
>>27628392Weird, it doesn't seem to actually state that anywhere in any "traffic flow" rules. And weirdly enough, the most common signs just say "KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS"Huh
>>27628398It also doesn't say you are allowed to break the speed limit. If someone in front of you is passing and at the speed limit, you have to just wait.
>>27628436It doesn't say you're not allowed to either. What is DOES say, is that you should keep up with the flow of traffic or get out of the passing lane.
>>27628439If I'm passing, I can use the left lane. Bitch all you want but you're just gonna have to wait for me
>>27628445>just gonna have to wait for meCorrect, if you're keeping up with the flow of traffic. If you're passing a 65mph truck while doing 66mph, and everybody else is doing 75, I WILL undertake, overtake, or pass you on the shoulder.
Since this thread is about Camping = LE BAD most of the time, take a look at this.So many campers on the left lane in the distance. How many times do I have to flash my headlights so everyone will get out of the way?
Americans be likeToday I will buy a 7.4L V8 with 4 superchargers at 1776HP and I will take it down LIBERTY FREEDOM road for a spin at a blistering 65mph (gets stopped and shot by a retard cop)Meanwhile in Europe the average 1.2L Renault and Peugeouts are driving at 7k rpm in top gear without a worry in the world.
>>27629647very proud of my autism by guessing the date of this photo as 2009 before reverse image searching it
>>27624953I'm sorry, what exactly is the problem here. The passing lane is for passing. There are so many people on the motorway barely doing 60mph, it's infuriating. Can't stand braking for no reason. Best to just stay in the passing lane, put your foot down and make way if somebody faster comes up behind. Remember the longer you're on the roads, the more chance you have to get into an accident. Just get where you're going and fuck off.
>>27629709If you're not passing, you're not using the lane properly, and need to leave.It's annoying for me as a good boy driver to have to change lanes so often, I get it, but we can't let the niggers win, that's how are roads are the way they are today.We got a bunch of fucking retards running child's licenses thinking they're all correct cause there more of them than us. We have to hold back that tide>>27629647Look how no one is using the lane of travel as far as the eye can fucking SEE. I hate hearing these 'quhayamean they gave me three lanes but you only want me to use one' argument from camping retards and yet look what they've done, effectively turned a three lane road into twoI understand how this follow the leader/jump off a bridge shit starts, but what gets me is how many fucking times do you need to be punishpassed, flashed at, whatever, before you start thinking that maybe they way you're doing things is wrong?
>>27630326>lane of travelIt's not a 3 lane you retard. Look at the photo. That is just a merging lane, it ends before the first curve even. Its just a 2 lane
>>27624953fuckin amercans and their lane confusions.let me guess, you dont even have right of way as you merge onto a highway?
these threads are always amazing, the illogical nonsense the retards who want to drive faster than the speed limit come up with to try to justify their impatience never fails to entertain.this board is fucking garbage and has been for a long time but these threads are still worth visiting once a week for. never mature /o/, this is all you have left.
>>27631784>the illogical nonsense the retards who don't want to keep right and pass left come up with to try and justify their actions never fails to entertain>this board is so fucking garbage I come here at least once a week to remind myself how morally superior I am to uWrite a fucking blog about it buddy
>>27630375>It's not a 3 lane you retardDoesn't matter at fucking all, retard. If you block the path to pass, you're in the way. Keep right except to pass, if everyone keeps right, it will be easy to pass and easy to make left turns since you won't have to fight a wall of traffic. It makes it easier to turn right ONTO the road two since eeryone isn't perfectly staggered like retards and you're only going to have to worry about one lane coming at you, not two.How can anyone with two eyes NOT FUCKING SEEEEEEEE>>27631784You can still be wrong and just let me pass you,keepo right except to pass
>>27631784Cope.
I had to make a roadtrip recently from Dallas to Austin and I very rarely go down I35 to Austin because lmao Austin, but fucking NO ONE uses the right lane on that road. It's a 200 miles trip and I spent no joke at least 80% of it in either the right most or middle lane going 90mph. Half of all cars stay in the left lane in a long ass single file line for miles and miles. Sometimes I could stay in the right lane completely by myself for 6,7,8 miles at a time before coming up on the back of any other vehicle. Of course then the middle lane was empty so I could quickly overtake them and get back in the right lane for another 5,6 miles.
>>27624953I speed until someone wants to fuck around then I'll go 10 under and match the speed of someone next to me and/or speed up when they try to pass.
>>27633585Same up and down I95 especially through VA and NC. I love getting into little races with other cars, watching them struggle to maintain +100mph in the passing lane, while I pass them at 90mph just using the middle lane. The left lane is dead.
>y'all
>>2762495370mph is the speed limit on highways though.
>>27624953>>27625120My state specifically says you can ignore the speed limit temporarily when passing someone. Nice try, OP, but keep seething.
>>27631784Why do you want to make transportation slower for everyone?
>>27624972That's not true whatsoever idiot If you cant pass doing the speed limit, then you can't pass at allIt's a speed LIMIT, not a speed suggestion
How much time is saved by speeding? Does speeding make up for waiting at stoplights? What if you speed only to get stopped at red and everyone you just passed pulls up behind you?
>>27625179>or in excess of 85 miles per hour regardless of the applicable maximum speed limitSo if you're doing 15 over in a 70 zone you can get hit for reckless.Also if that's accurate they changed it, used to be over 80 no matter what, but that was Even more retarded because it was a holdover from when the max speed limit anywhere in VA was like 55 so you could get reckless for doing 10 over in some places after they raised them. >t. literally happened to me once, I hate it here
>>27634635Depends on too many factors to say, frogtard-kun.I regularly get places a good 5-10 minutes faster than other people who left from the same place at the same time though, so it's not zero. And there's no stop lights on the interstate so the amount of time saved of course is higher for long trips on the interstate depending on how much you're speeding.Ultimately though I don't really care about getting places faster I just care about driving the speed that feels comfortable, but I also don't pull asshole maneuvers like tailgating, cutting people off, weaving through traffic just to force my way in front of people etc. which are the things that are actually dangerous and inconvenient to others most of the time.
>>27634635It’s not about saving time, it’s about sending a message.
I think this law is extremely dumb. Mostly because when the road is not congested everybody is already exceeding the speed limit so the "passing lane" becomes the defacto illegal excessive speeding lane.If the road is congested the "passing" lane becomes just another traffic jam lane like all the others.If the road is mostly empty and you're cruising in the "slow lane" because the law says to than you are cruising in a lane closest to the sidewalk, closest to driveways, closest to on and off ramps. Why would you default to cruising in the most hazardous lane with the most lane changes happening?What if you intend to pass every single car in the slow lane? you just cruise in the passing lane which is also breaking the law for some reason? its super dumb and the rules break down under every extreme circumstance.I feel it only exists to encourage keeping a lane clear for emergency vehicles
>>27635736FACE THE STORM!
>>27634635>Drive to visit folks>Estimated travel time: 5 hrs 55 minSpeed the entire way>Actual travel time: 5hrs 10 minutes Over 40 extra minutes with my family that evening
>>27635951In actuality>get pulled over by police>license suspended>actual travel time: 2d17h by bus
>>27635736>it’s about sending a message.I can already see the message>we regret to inform you that anon-kun is currently hospitalized from a car accident. You were the designated family member in their medical sheet. We don't know when they'll regain consciousness
>>27635957>In actuality Nigger I just did this last week, and about 6 times a year minimum apart from that. Want to guess how many tickets? In actuality? (Hint: it rhymes with "smearo")
>>27625396Based. Doing gods work. Speeders don’t have the right to move law Abiders out of the way
>>27625863You can’t legally pass someone going the speed limit in the right or left lane
>>27635750The law really is for the autobahn where there is no maximum speed limit
>>27626104You’re a huge pussy. I’ve gotten maybe three tickets in the last five years and I’m never going to change how I drive because I’m not a poor loser.
>>27627295Based
>>27634030Quite incorrect, visit shit like Texas>>27634598And it's a passing lane and you're not passing, so now what, we're both breaking the law and only one of us is being an inconviance, child>>27634635Doesn't matter, it's fun. I don't have to justify it anymore than you do, but you DO need to be passing in a passing lane>>27635750If you fucking kept right except to pass how in the fucking world could you congest THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC, you have TWO PASSING LANES, that's more than enough if everyone actually returns right, you can always have traffic flowYou are a bad driver and cannot imagine a world with better drivers>Why would you default to cruising in the most hazardous lane with the most lane changes happening?Because that is the only lane of travel, nigger. In the event someone entering or exiting the high way is not doing so properly, if no one is camping in the center passing lane, wow look how this works out,YOU CAN FUCKING MOVE OVERExit and On ramps are for exiting and entering traffic, it's int he name retard. If normal traffic scars you, remove yourself from the road.Do not block others because you piss your poants>>27635994You're not abiding to Gods or the states laws if you're not keeping right except to pass. Traffic flows the same everywhere regardless if you're from a mouth breathing biblebeating state thats too stupid to put up a sign the majority of its illiterate citizens can't read anyhow>>27636001And they get to have that because they practice lane dicipline. WE WOULD HAVE IT TOO GUYS
>>27624953You’re objectively wrong, legally. t. Lawyer
>>27627295>meanwhile me in my priusAnd notice how I still manage to keep right except when passing
>Be night shift>Get off as others are going to work>Crooze in the left lane>See all the seething morning wagies in my mirror flashing and honnking>About 10 cars behind me all tailgating each otherChoo! Chooooooo!
>>27636428Is it the 2024? I'm considering getting one but it is impossible to discuss that car here.
>>27636339>And it's a passing lane and you're not passing, so now what, we're both breaking the law and only one of us is being an inconviance, childNice try fag, but Im not in the left lane, I'm doing the speed limit in the middle lane. You can either follow the law and remain behind me at safe distance at the proper speed, or have another one of your little chimpouts and speed into the passing lane on the left, breaking the law. Your impatience makes you the child.If you can't pass doing the speed limit, then you can't pass at all. The "passing lane" doesn't mean you can start speeding like a nigger.
>>27636522>Nice try fag, but Im not in the left lane, I'm doing the speed limit in the middle laneSo.....you're in a passing lane and not passing anyone, great, another retard who can't see he's in the fucking way, encouraging unsaf e weaving, undertaking, and making one lane change into fucking three.How many times do you need to be flashed at, honked at, or passed on both sides to realize you need to keep right except to pass in order for traffic to flow.Please fucking explain to me how it makes sense, if I want to pass the guy in front of me in the travel lane, that I have to go AROUND YOU TOO all the fucking way to the left, to get all the fucking back to the right, when you could also just be in the travel lane, USE THE PASSING LANES TO FUCKING PASS and return right?I say for a millionth time, if exiting and entering traffic scares you, remove yourself from the road. If needing to pay attention enranges you, remove yourself from the road. If you are not passing, remove yourself from the passing lanes.How do you see this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd8PyH7OtNo&list=FLdpFXcz87Y1SQ-iewbGm91A&index=97&t=10s&pp=gAQB8AUB and not think you're in the way????!!!!
>>27636577>How many times do you need to be flashed at, honked at, or passed on both sides to realize you need to keep right except to pass in order for traffic to flow.kek try that in any large city. No one follows your silly rules here. The only reason I stay right is because the right shoulder is easier to work with in case of a breakdown. No playing frogger for me.
>>27625169I actually did once get a speeding ticket for 5 over on the highway but it got dismissed immediately kek
>>276249539/10 of interstate highways and freeways should raise the speed limit for non-semi trucks to 120mph. >but but cuckoversthen....THEY can go slower.
>>27636511It's posted here all the time. Buy it. Shop multiple dealers until one offers the trim you want for MSRP without a markup. Skip the Prime since it's 60k with little hope of not having a markup right now. The regular trims still get +50mpg on their own depending on how often you use the 7-second 0-60, the fastest (and most stylish) the Prius has ever been.
To this autist claiming that nobody should ever speed, do you even realize speed limits are set by the 85th percentile rule? That means they're set knowing that people are going to exceed this limit and feel comfortable doing so. TL:DR, yes you can still impede the flow of traffic doing the posted speed limit on the interstate. https://nacto.org/publication/city-limits/the-need/designed-to-fail/>>27636824>>27636824>the 7-second 0-60
>>27636824>>27636942Nevermind, I thought you said sub 7 for some reason.
Just fucking die already you walking corpse.If you're under 60 and act this way you desperately need to get your blood testosterone levels checked.Slow driving is the type of passive agressive bullying low testosterone boomers and women pull.Cut the shit nigger, even the cops hate people like you.
>Yfw speed minimum 40
>>27636998That means someone was driving less than 40 in a 70 at some point...Speed on the interstate here is 75 everyone goes 65.We legit need to get boomers out of cars and off the road for good.The new thing people do here is turn on their hazards and do insane shit like drive on the sidewalk or flat out block traffic.Or my favorite, sitting at 4 way stops like mouth breathers despite having the right of way.Quite frankly we need to check testosterone levels at the DMV at this point.
what really boggles my mind is when I see niggers tailgaiting people in the left lane, wait for someone to move over, then stay in the left lane, unaware they could be impeding traffic for someone else. Even if you're going 100, move right, then move back over when you need to pass someone else**obviously heavy rush hour traffic may not be feasible, since no one is moving, but 10pm at night when there are maybe 10-15 cars within eyesight at any given time, this is not that hard to do. I'm probably autistic or german since I will move right, even if I know i will need to pass in 45-60 seconds, because I don't want to impede traffic and be a nigger
>>27637229The problem is I get over but nobody else does and now I'm in an empty right lane?Do I just start zipping by going the FUCKING SPEED LIMIT in the right lane?I hate passing in the right but nobody just gets in the cruising lane to FUCKING CRUISE.Then I get boxed out of the passing lane because captain faggot just refuses to go 2mph faster and fucking PASS ME FUCK.So insanely enraging these fucking people.
>>27625437You are the absolute worst person to be behind on the highway, legitimately kys faggot
>>27625112Is this how people drive every day in burgerland?
>>27638372Probably. I think that guy was looking for an ego check. Obviously it's usually the victim of brake checking that would get disgruntled and try to follow the driver who brake checked them. Not the other way around. Suffice to say I was grinning the whole time that spastic was tailing me. I planned on calling the police if he continued to follow me any further. I kept thinking about, "what if I was crazy and I had a gun, and he's thinking it's a great idea to try and get me to pull over". I mean, I have a gun, but I'm not going to pull over for some road rager unless I have no choice. The dude was an obese bugman, so I'm not sure what outcome he was expecting acting so tough
>>27638372It's the way of the road bud. You better be prepared to lay down your life for your convictions.
>>27638383Next time you're being followed drive directly to a police station.
>>27638860That was among my plans
>>27625112>when I unintentionally tailgated himStopped reading. I presume the rest of your drivel is you trying to play victim?
>>27639039>Stopped readingWe know reading is hard for you, anon, you ignored all of the "slower traffic keep right" signs
>>27636824why pay $30k+ for a Prius instead of $22k for a Corolla Hybrid with comparable MPG?I like the Prius, I had a 2013, but what justifies the insane price tag relative to hybrid Corollas/Camrys?
>>27639063And yet you ignoring the "keep a safe following distance" intuition just wasn't your fault right darkie? You dindu nuffin.
>>27639073>darkie>dindu nuffinOh yeah, I'm so tough, waiting for the opportunity to pass some fat retard who thinks I'm trying to tailgate him for miles. Benchracer
>>27639077>tailgate >why does he think im trying to tailgate?Your lack of accountability sure is black
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>>27625112>I wonder how his girlfriend in the passenger seat was feeling90% of the time I see someone driving like a retarded babydick, they're trying to impress their girlfriendwe need to talk about the simp question (SQ)>>27639073not that poster, and I hate reckless drivers, but you can't "keep a safe following distance" when someone is blocking traffic in the passing lane. they create a bottleneck and have to be pressured out of the lane or you'll have a situation with a block of 10 cars traveling parallel to each other, agitated, at 70+mph. passing on the right is also dangerous. blocking a passing lane is far more dangerous than accidentally tailgating and it affects the whole flow of traffic for miles
>>27624953>always drive with the flow of traffic unless I am making more space for me or my frens on the road>always give people an out if they are stuck behind a semi and I am coming up in the fast lane>cruise control always on>always blasting boomer rock likefeels good being a good driver
>>27639091>you can't keep a safe following distance" when someone is blocking traffic in the passing lane.Yes you can, and have a responsibility to you and your car to do so.
Not only do I speed in the left lane, when there's a traffic jam, I drive in the carpool lane with just myself in the car. No one follows your autistic lane-speed rules, no one zipper merges correctly, everyone rubbernecks for an accident, so just live in the real world when you're driving. You're driving as you want to, but don't complain when others do the same.
>>27639164I do, I told you I'm a safe driver. when someone is incorrectly blocking traffic in the passing lane, I'll pull into the slow lane and just keep a huge distance until someone inevitably rages and pushes the traffic blocker out of the lane and it finally clears up. but up until that point, the longer it goes on, the more cars are going to be in the bottleneck. it's not unreasonable to put pressure on the boomer not paying attention in the fast lane by reminding them that you're trying to pass by accelerating occasionally or honkingyou're just wrong in your risk assessment. I have hundreds of thousands of miles in different cities over the past few years and I know where the problems in traffic lie.>blocking traffic = increased vectors of risk for everyone in the surrounding area due to the inability of anyone to safely pass and clear the area. >tailgating a traffic blocker = fewer vectors of risk, lower chance of accident once they finally get overno one can be a safe driver in a traffic bottleneck, even pulling to the side won't save you unless you stay far back. you might crash into them if they brake check you, if you consider this risk you can strategically speed up behind them to remind them you're trying to pass and then back off. blocking traffic justifies tailgating and it's safer to tailgate temporarily to clear the situation, if you're willing to take the temporary risk (its better to let others do it for you though)
>>27639469Causing a rear-end accident by tailgating fucks up traffic incredibly more than both of the scenarios in your head. Simple as.
>>27639503>brake check because your ego is bruised while you camp in the left lane>if it causes an accident, it's the other driver's fault, even if them "tailgating" you for less than a minute was waiting for traffic on the right to clear so they could get over and around you as fast as possibleand I'm the dindu?
>>27639503I told you you're wrong because you're wrong, as your low effort dismissals show. "tailgating" is a loaded term, what's dangerous is cars in close proximity that don't have the ability to create space around them. tailgating is dangerous because it creates this situation for the person in front of you (you're limiting their ability to brake safely). blocking traffic creates this effect, limiting EVERYONE'S ability to pass, brake, or even change lanes after a certain point, and it gets worse the longer it goes on (which would be indefinitely if you had your way)you seem emotionally committed to the idea that "tailgating" (which means whatever you say it does I'm sure) is always 100% wrong. but you don't understand real world driving, and your theory of safe driving suffers for it. I think your point would be better made by saying I REALLY DON'T LIKE WHEN I'M TAILGATED.
>>27639524>>27639526Notice how you need all this extra filler to bolster your belief that tailgating is acceptable behavior in the face of you not having enough patience while operating a motor vehicle.>yes you are the dindu
>>27639566>IM NOT MAD AND WRONG IM TROLLING!no sorry. I had to thoroughly debunk your lies for the safety of the 4chan Community. remember kids, defensive driving 101: >SPACE = SAFE
>>27639597Sounds about black
>>27639566>I brake check because my ego is bruised when people are trying to pass me when I'm hogging the left lane>I'm not a dindu I'm not a dindu I'm not a dindu I'm not a dindu