Suppose I want to work as a transporter. What car should I get? It should have four doors, be able to outrun and outmaneuver almost anything, go on uneven terrain, withstand hits gracefully and be reliable. And it should have at least 600kg payload, for four average adults and the goods themselves. Can you pick one car that ticks all those boxes, /o/?Upgrades such as Koni shocks allowed, just beware that you don't overload them. For example, 80 kilo overload would mean you can't outmaneuver the pursuers should a chase ensue.
>>27633946Nice jeep bro
>>27633946Easy, W140 S600L with twin turbo LS7 swap and Bilstein shocks, 2 in lift.
>>27633946Durango SRT Hellcat fitted with AT tires
>>27633959>twin turbo LS7 swap>reliablekek, as if NA LS7 weren't bad enough
>>27633959All technical objections aside, that won't blend in. You pull up to a bank in one of those 26 year old hoopties and security goes in high alert>>27633972>dodge>reliable
>>27633946Mini John Cooper Works WRC with livery delete, what do I win?
>>27633946Coyote V8 swap in a Crown Vic police interceptor with raised suspension. Throw a twin turbo on your Coyote if its still not fast enough for you.
>>27633946A Tesla Model S Plaid is all you need.>four doorsCheck>able to outrun and outmaneuver almost anythingCheck>go on uneven terrainCheck>withstand hits gracefullyCheck>reliableCheck>at least 600kg payloadCheck>blend inCheck
>>27634071Just realized the Cybertruck is even better for this. It's even bulletproof!
>>27634071Sounds good so long as you don't get chased more than the 50 mile range.
>>27634094This kek, Refn (director of Drive) already made that into a plot twist and allhttps://youtu.be/opG-avLA7Ro?t=85
>>27633946Mercedes s-classes are about the only vehicle I know that will sustain 180mph for multiple hours
>>27634144If the chase is multiple hours long you're probably fucked already
>>27633946>It should have four doors, be able to outrun and outmaneuver almost anything, go on uneven terrain, withstand hits gracefully and be reliable.There is no car in existence that fits this entire list. The best you can do is split it right down the middle and get a car that fits maybe half of your requirements here.
>>27634160>what is hydropneumatic suspension
>>27634031You mean GR Yaris Rally1
>>27634045damn was also gonna mention the crown vic. although it kinda sticks out like a sore thumb now
>>27634174GR for GR8 B8That ricer POS is 3 doors and it won't blend in, it has boyracer written all over it.Meanwhile you take the livery and the wing off the Mini and you're just another guy in a Mini.There's a reason there's Minis in The Italian Job. Getaway special if I've seen one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u62DC8AkOw
>>27633946Bane?
>>27633946Lotus Carlton
>>27634291Is that the legendary "hot carl"
>>27633946A GMT 800 Z71 Tahoe with a ZF8HP transmission swap, and a 6.2 LS
>>27634378>outmaneuvers the police straight into a ditch
>>27633993get new material Alphonse
>>27634075>Cybercuck>blend in
Dodge Caravan (with the hemi)
>>276339466cyl 4runner, pre-2005 from when Toyotas were still actually reliable.
>>27633946A warmed over Caprice would tick the boxes and be pretty stealthy.
>>27635058Only if you get the one with the LS V8.
>>27635092OK, I thought they all had the LS. t Ausfag
>>27635179>AusfagReminds me of the Chevy SS, probably the best choice all around
>>27634171>hydropneumatic suspensionA car with hydropneumatic suspension isn't going to be outmaneuvering anything short of a literal barge.
>>27633946>It should have four doors, be able to outrun and outmaneuver almost anything, go on uneven terrain, withstand hits gracefully and be reliable.G30 540i with a tune and M5 control arms.
>>27633946Nothing factory will take abuse off road at speed. You have to purpose build shit like that. An XJ with subframe stiffening, an exoskeleton, engine swap, trussed one tons, at least 37" tires on beadlocks, and some extreme coilovers or air shocks would be the only thing that can really do what you're asking fpr a reasonable cost.Realistically, if you really NEEDED some shit like this, you'd almost be better off ground up building a tube chassis rig with completely custom everything.
>>27635871That's going to be heavy as fuck to the point where it's probably not going to outrun a whole lot.
>>27635874Your criteria is retarded, dude. You don't seem to understand that having something that can take hits and run across uneven terrain quickly and reliably necessitates weight. You compensate weight with horsepower.Something like pic related with a cargo space built in would be ideal given suspension geometry and components suited for high speed. It weighing three tons doesn't matter if it's making 800 horses. There's a reason rock bouncers and trophy trucks have serious power. Anything else is going to be a compromise that won't do what you're asking for.
>>27635815Xantia Activa does the moose test at 85km/h and has no ESC, you're delusional.https://teknikensvarld.expressen.se/algtest/
>>27635871>trussed one tonsOP said uneven terrain not rock crawling. What a fucking retard you are.
>>27635972There is literally no downside to trussing axles, you fucking mongoloid retard. It can only be of benefit since it adds rigidity and makes the axle less prone to a catastrophic bend or break. IFS would be full retard, so don't even suggest it.
>>27635990Rally cars use IFS, fuck off. You need to get away from the bad guys and into a safe location quick enough, not go memeing into impassable terrain. It's not an overland tour.
>>27635937I'm not OP, I'm just pointing out that this is an impossible engineering challenge that shouldn't even have been posted on this board. The top speed of a trophy truck is 130 MPH, completely laughable by modern car standards. You're not even outrunning a police-issue SUV at that speed.>>27635969The moose test is a dodging exercise that doesn't have anything to do with outrunning or outmaneuvering another car in a driving scenario. You're not doing an obstacle course, you're doing what is essentially a track or rally race, which leads to different suspension requirements. If this is all it took then every F1, Rally, or even stock series setup would necessitate a hydropneumatic suspension setup, and since this is not the case we can conclude that there are other considerations to be made when it comes to outrunning other cars.
>>27635999If you're considering "rally cars", you're already a mouth-breather of such biblical proportions that you should buy the first WRX you can, make terroristic threats, and then try to run the border. Do it, faggot.>>27636004Sure, I don't disagree with you. I made my posts to get that same point across in a less belligerent manner which was clearly a wasted effort. You're either fast on road or off road. If you compromise for both, your durability will be the Achilles heel. There's no way around this. OP is a faggot and I'm retarded for getting baited.
>>27636004>You're not doing an obstacle courseOf course you are, what do you imagine being chased in a car is like? It's about going as fast as you can without crashing into anything.
>>27636018What if the terrorists are the guys I'm fleeing from? huh? huh? huh? Remove the jumping into the truck antics from this one and it becomes pretty realistic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCKgFFmf_iIAnd if you don't want to believe the driving in The Transporter, check out this behind the scenes of Rogue Nation, featuring a BMW driving down a flight of stairshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYqKIFtBYRw
>>27634291This, there were gangs in the 90s that would jump the curb in these, ram their way into a store, ransack it and proceed to outrun the cops at 300MPH
>>27633946Subtle
>>27633946VW Phaeton, the ultimate sleeper. Passes for a Passat meaning you'll send the pursuers into wild goose chases along the way.
>>27636019The moose test is specifically about doing a very specific back-and-forth jerking motion at speed for avoiding something in the middle of the road. It has nothing to do with any other kind of driving maneuver. Again, if this suspension is so good for outrunning purposes, why isn't it widely used in quite literally any motorsport on any kind of road or track, professional or amateur, stock, formula, or open, ever?
>>27636134Because those aren't obstacle races and because maintenance costs skyrocket and it's also difficult to implement for an one-off car like racing cars tend to be with all their modifications
>>27636140>Because those aren't obstacle races and because maintenance costs skyrocketGlad we agree that this doesn't fit OP's needs then.
>>27636143How doesn't it? There's a reason they used Citröen XMs for highly sensitive transportation needs in France in the 90s. In the event of a high speed chase it was one of the best cars you could be in. Maintain it well and it will reward you. Neglect it and it will punish you.
>>27636176The fact that I have literally never heard this claim before in my life aside, that was an i4 car surrounded by other i4 cars which, again, uses a type of suspension that is rated as being good in a ROLLOVER TEST and not anything that involves going down roads at speed and making the various maneuvers that this involves.Take a look at an actual modern real-world car chase and look at what drivers are actually doing during them. Moose maneuvers are entirely irrelevant in these situations, it's a completely different kind of test for a completely different kind of situation. I'm not even saying that those suspensions aren't cool, I'm just saying that they are completely irrelevant in these kinds of situations and I find the fixation on it incredibly strange.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBQQpDJNNdw
>>27636184I'm not seeing any cops intercepting him. That was just a stolen car Besides, what kind of dumbass tries to flee on a controlled access highway?What a gay "chase", even Italians in Smarts are more interesting than that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO1GWqlAslE
>>27633946Ford Raptor
>>27636389Beat me to it. The F150 btw, not the Ranger.
>>27636373You really need to stop watching action movies.
>>27636645That's footage of an actual chase in Italy, dipshit. Besides, there's nothing wrong with watching movies as long as you don't believe everything in them is real. There's plenty of things they have no reason to fake.
>>27636671I'm aware of the fact that it's an actual chase in italy you eurocuck retard. What I'm stating is that real life doesn't care about what you deem "interesting." Rope yourself with linguini or choke on a cock-shaped baugette or die by the hand of whatever other putrid "cuisine" you have nearby.
>>27636834If you're getting chased down a highway you're a retard because there's no way you're losing your pursuers. It's like an open air version of a tunnel, nowhere to go, nowhere to hide.
>>27636941>european logic
>>27636941>there's no way you're losing your pursuers.You can just ditch their ass if your car is faster than theirs. Break line of sight then take an exit (or don't) and leave them guessing.
>>27637187That only works if there's only one car pursuing and the moment you run into the inevitable jam you're fucked. Besides, breaking line of sight is much harder there because it's pretty much an obstacle-free view.
>>27636941>If you're getting chased down a highway you're a retard because there's no way you're losing your pursuers.Life in America, where cowboys come from, isn't the fucking Italian Job you retard. Here highways of one kind or another are 90% of our fucking infrastructure and are thus one of the main conversational aspects. Start a thread about the shitty folk heroes of whatever peninsula backwater country you come from if you want to talk about hon hon baguette cars struggling not to spin out on cobblestone.
>>27635656Perfect
>>27637554A cowboy knows how to avoid that 90% to go on less restrictive roads that enable evasive maneuvers.
For me, it's the Citroën Évasion
>>27637842Kek'd
>>27637794We don't fucking HAVE THOSE YOU IDIOT. GO POST ON A EURO BOARD.
>>27638276>we don't have those>posts a picture of onewhat did he mean by this?Pic related is the one to avoid in a chase.
>>27638286>If you're getting chased down a highway you're a retard because there's no way you're losing your pursuers. It's like an open air version of a tunnel, nowhere to go, nowhere to hide.I posted a picture of a route lined by GUARDRAILS and TREES where there is NOWHERE TO GO BUT FORWARD, holy shit europeans are retarded, we need to just nuke your fucking "continent" off the face of the earth and free ourselves.
>>27638287You can do U-turns or take advantage of the trees, you can go on smaller roads that connect to it, the guardrails are just a feature for when they can't meet the embankment grade to not use one in the first place. I know the AASHTO rules unlike you.
>>27634071>faggotCheck>/n/iggerCheck>spamming t*sla in every thread possibleCheckBack to /n/ then kys
>>27634133Why should I care about the opinions on cars of a Danish autist whose disabilities prevent him from driving?>>27638343After you
>>27638296>take advantage of a line of trees that are so densely packed you can't actually drive through them>go on smaller roads that are the exact same layout as the main one meaning you have nowhere to go and often result in dead-ends on other people's property>mentioning guardrails and safety rule bullshit even when the entire point is that the guardrails are positioned in places where you can't drive anyway, like steeply-wooded hill and cliffsidesR E T A R D ETARDGO BACK TO EUROPE
>>27638368>take advantage of a line of trees that are so densely packed you can't actually drive through themBullshit, if anything the roots make the drive less feasible but maybe you can hide in them if you have enough of a lead.>go on smaller roads that are the exact same layout as the main one meaning you have nowhere to go and often result in dead-ends on other people's propertyMaps are a thing you know, retarded burger shit?>mentioning guardrails and safety rule bullshit even when the entire point is that the guardrails are positioned in places where you can't drive anyway, like steeply-wooded hill and cliffsidesIt was you who mentioned them, pretending they were always present on the road.
>>27638382THERE ARE TOO MANY FUCKING TREES YOU MONGOLOIDyou have to be trolling, even for a eurocock your IQ is fucking low
>>27638398Mongolia's average IQ is higher than the US'
>>27638368
>>27638412Mongolia has less x
>>27633946cowboys didn't ride chariots, get a liter bike
>>27638885They drove chariots though
>>27638368Cry more mutt
