ITT dead car brands
>>27828007
>stepdad is old and has dementia>only able to visit him and my mom a couple times a year>hit him with the classic "Poor Old Nigger Thinks It's A Cadillac" joke>he laughs so hard every time like it's the first time all over again.
>>27828021Wholesome
Post all USA brands lolDIE
>>27828007>>27828020>>27828071I think they all died because of stupid names. Who the fuck wants to drive a Dodge.
>>27828710Even worse. Your brand literally has "old" in the name. No wonder they died.
>>27828699>ccp mandates all chinks buy BYD with government assisted funds>BYD leads "global" salesAnon, come on.
>>27828710Me. I love Mopars.
>>27828837So you're saying China's form of government works?
The only one worth mourning over...
THERE GOES MY HERO
>>27829051Absolute garbage. I can't believe people actually liked anything that AMC produced lol
>>27829066Let it die.
>>27829117take that back
>>27828795No one had a problem with the name for 80 years and that was the excuse used after GM ran it into the ground with shitty rebadges and not letting their engineers work.
>>27829117They were the most innovative car manufacturer around.
>>27829430Imagine if GM didn't GM itself every other fucking dayWe would've had:>backup cameras as a luxury option by ~mid 60's>SOHC engines in time for gas crunch>fuel injection, also in time for gas crunch>ABS and TCS refined to be a mid-level option by ~mid 70's>touchscreen standard by early 90's>GPS as a mid-level option by the mid 90'sand more...now GM is fully homogenized; no more innovative separate divisions; no more unique platformsFUCK GM
>>27829449Good enough for government work
>>27829367rip I first learned how to drive in my dad's saturn aura
>>27829449Because nothing could be faster than the Corvette.>no dohc olds 455>no dohc pontiac engines>no yunick dohc 305>no banshee>fiero is just parts bin special but still too good
>>27829430They were dog shit
>>27828654actually new buicks are kinda nice
>>27829552
my first car, a 93 i got in 99 for $3500. was supposed to be 'clean' but i found all sorts of broken window glass when i did a deep clean. had no power steering or passenger side miror. really reliable and almost no rust because of the plastic body panels
>>27829573These were some of the best commuter cars of the 90s, on par with the Corolla or maybe even above that
>>27829323WRONG!The greedy unions and the lazy af employees (I refuse to call ANY union employee is "worker") killed it due to rewarding too many years of shit quality overpriced product.
>>27829475I think the Buick GN proved that was wrong.And right.Because it WAS faster until GM killed it
>>27829615okay dad, back to bed, your hemi charger poster is still there don't worry
>>27829117i say the same thing about shitzuki. at least AMC made cool shit.
>>27829690They still make bikes and the Jimny still is a less faggot version of the Jeep.
>>27829705crotch rockets and jeep knock offs are the faggiest shit. AMC pioneered the civilian jeep, and the fact that its the best thing shitzuki makes says a lot.
>>27829449>>touchscreen standard by early 90's>>GPS as a mid-level option by the mid 90'sfuck u
>>27828007>ITT dead car brands
Rest in peace sweet prince
>>27829573I love the hidden/miniscule grilles of the 80s-early 00s.
>>27829066>>27829779I miss them :(
>>27829780still daily a saab, just keeps rolling
>>27829622GNX wasn't allowed to boast about 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Syclone was faster than a 'Vette. 25th Ani Trans-Am was faster than a ZR1.
>>27829367RIP Saturn. The first polymer car. It was ahead of its time. The Glock of cars. Never truly appreciated.
>>27829367never owned or driven one but i still have weird amount of nostalgia for them, they were just such a quintessentially 90s brand. their wholesome "we do things *differently*" image was so in line with the general sense of optimism, progress and upward trajectory we had in the 90s that has completely evaporated in the last 20 years.>>27829872>still daily a saabsame
>>27829780>On 16 June 2009, Koenigsegg announced its intention to purchase the brand from GM.[24] The bid was backed by a group of Norwegian investors and the Chinese car maker Beijing Automotive Industry Holding Co Ltd (BAIC). The following month, both parties announced that GM had consented to the deal. There were outstanding financial details, but a loan from the European Investment Bank was expected to cover them. The loan was approved in October, but on 24 November 2009, Koenigsegg announced that it had "come to the painful and difficult conclusion that it could no longer carry out the acquisition"[25] much because of the constant delays and the difficulties coordinating the involved parties: GM, the European Investment Bank, the Swedish National Debt Office and BAIC.
>>27829883>GNX wasn't allowed to boast about 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.I remember reading Road & Track retro reviews somewhere and the GNX they tested to see what numbers it actually put down instead of what Buick rated it at came out faster than the same year L98 Corvette in the 0-60 and over a second faster in the quarter mile- and still on par with the ZR-1 Corvettes that came years later.
>>27828007>PontiacMy first car, I still own it, but I think I'm going to finally bury it this year. It's a Vibe, so technically it's designed by nips and manufactured at NUMI in California. So not really Pontiac after all, but it's the best car they built in decades lmao (nips make good cars). It would need a lot of money to stay on the road. Last winter the hood latch rusted completely through and the hood flipped up into the windshield while I was driving on the highway. Windshield shattered and I had to maneuver off the highway while blind. I'd have to put hood pins (cheap and easy), replace the windshield (couple hundred?), it also needs new brakes and tires. Suspension is getting pretty bad and I think for safety should probably have a few components replaced, I'm a little worried at highway speeds a control arm or something might fail and I could lose control. I will be sad to see it go but with the age of the car I think that money is probably better spent on a new beater. Might scoop up a manual Versa, port-injected, naturally aspirated, drum brakes rear with manual handbrake, lots to like for longevity and reliability there. Might be the last great economy shitbox you can get. These are a dying breed. The list of manual transmission subcompacts is dwindling, and 2025 model year there are even fewer. 2025 is the last year of the Versa. Jetta, Civic, and Forte GT manuals die in 2024. Mazda 3 manual is only available in the $33,000 trim level. Versa new can be found for $15k. Hard to beat that.
>>27829367Of all the cars I've driven, my mother's 2005 Saturn Vue is the one I miss second most. Handled better than any crossover today and way better visibility.
>>27830707I almost got one of those instead of the Vibe. They looked pretty solid.
>>27828837Doesn't the US government give huge subsidies to EVs built in America?
>>27828021>stepdad is old and has dementiaKWAB
At least we still have Land Rover...
>>27829780The greatest car brand of all time bankrupt. Capitalism really doesn't work
>>27829323>runs ads saying "not your father's Oldsmobile">at the time your father's Oldsmobile would've been something like pic related
>>27833029You think normalfags back then were informed enough to care?
>>27833058Given that the Cutlass family was the single best selling car in America for several years: yes.
>>27828795I had an older Eighty-Eight. Loved that thing.
>>27829887>and they were "real" plasticnot the 70's urethane disintegrating crap
Guess you could add Mercury too.
>>27830707Current vue owner hereWas it the Honda v6?
>>27828007love my pontiac>>27829367love my saturn>>27828862isuzu isnt dead they just were too based for the american market, and had to do charity work for the third world by blessing them with their cars and trucks
Lincoln isn't dead right now but it will be
>>27831936I love the 75. The top level trim is so comfy. Such a shame that Rover is now owned by Chinks
>>27833058Yeah, Olds had the reputation of being a performance brand, believe it or not. It was after years of rebadging whore shit that that was forgotten (Pontiac too), and no one cared anymore.
>>27831112Kill Withered Asian Babies?
>>27829046A tire fire in your living room would work to heat your house. If you don't care about the downsides, and ignore a thousand better solutions, then sure, it werks.
>>27833606Seems to me the seeds were planted in the late 70's when rocket V8 production couldn't meet demand and they started using regular chevy engines in their cars.
>>27833872I don't know much about that era, but that was also the malaise era, second oil crisis. Corvettes from late 70's made like 165hp... the environmental regulations got way stricter and it took basically 30 years for the car industry to make up the lost performance. In order to meet regulations and even to make sales during those difficult times meant performance took a back seat. The US brands didn't have a lot of options or didn't find new paths and so many of the legacy car designs were just abandoned.
>>27833872>>27833902olds was still making hot rides into the 90s. Pic rel was a 190hp olds designed dohc 4 cyl with a 5 speed that was sold in mass. The real death was the last generation of oldsmobiles (alero, intrigue, 2nd gen bravada etc) where they were all decent cars and reviewers liked them, there wasnt much seperating them from pontiac and chevrolet, and gm needed to skim down so they were first to go
>>27834256>The real death was the last generation of oldsmobiles (alero, intrigue, 2nd gen bravada etc) where they were all decent cars and reviewers liked them, there wasnt much seperating them from pontiac and chevrolet, and gm needed to skim down so they were first to goThat was my earliest memory of them as a brand. Were there any real differences between the alternate GM brand versions of those cars and the Olds versions?
>>27834272yes and no. The N bodies between pontiac and olds were the same mechanicly, but had a different interior and exterior. The intrigue got a northstar as its big engine option, while all the other W bodies got a supercharger 3800 (this was before everyone knew the northstar was total shit). The aurora only shared its platform with a buick i believe and was pretty different from it. The sillhouette was just another u body, and the bravada was a trailblazer with extra steps. Its not that the cars were bad, they just werent as special as they once were, and gm didnt want to put in the money for a new generation of cars, as in 2005 gm dropped a lot of its old platforms like the j and n body, aswell as the s10 and went to new shit, same for a lot of their motors
>>27833872It's not that it couldn't meet demand but that GM corporate wanted to cut some costs and force more parts-sharing. Buick and Pontiac suffered the same thing around that time, with the last Pontiac and Buick V8s going out in 1980-something (not counting offshoot survivors like the Buick derived Rover engine). Olds was just the first one that made the news with the 'Chevymobiles' when dealers opened the hood on their 88s and found the wrong engine.>>27833902Ironically the Rocket was actually one of the more economical and clean GM powerplants despite its potential for both power and reliability- somehow the Rocket 307 met EPA regulations and was still being produced and sold, with a carburetor, until *1990*.
>>27834316Slight correction, the Aurora had the 4.0 Northstar (which was later used for Indycar, among other things- the semi remembered Cadillac Le Mans prototype that advertised its Northstar so heavily actually used the Olds 4.0, not the Caddy 4.6 as well) but the Intrigue's weird option wasn't a V8 but the 'Shortstar' DOHC V6 that on paper was the 4.0 with two cylinders removed but in manufacturing was a whole new block and head design. Which of course meant it was expensive as hell and not many people bought it, but it's still a neat thing and plausible proof that Oldsmobile still had engineers getting high off paint fumes even once the 70s and projects like the OW43 were long dead.
>>27829367I own a Saturn SW2. great cars. in my opinion, they were the best American attempt at beating the japs in the cheap shitbox market of the time. they probably would have remained successful if GM didn't start fucking with all the good shit they were doing with the brand and the cars.
>>27831080Half of the musk family lives on ev subsidies lol. It's an understatement to say the US govt. subsidizes the EV market. Subsidies and govt funding were the among the highest capital injections to Tesla I remember reading that a while ago
>>27828007>pontiacim glad its dead. i shudder to imagine what a nupontiac would look like in current year.
