In every way a car is better
To take down SHOCKER
>>27828345Being poorCrime
>>27828345Sorry you can't afford a fun hobby :(
>>27828345Practically? MPG/skipping traffic/low entry cost
>>27828345good point, i would much rather have a car than a chink cfmoto
>>27828345Cheap, uses less fuel, light -> less wear for the road and other infrastructure, space efficient for something that is stationary 90% of the time, high top speed,quick acceleration,park anywhere, cheap maintenace, easy maintencance compared to a car, less complex, usually better engineered than cars from my experiance, can carry 1 additional person,don't drive 4 empty seats and a trunk around,gives race car performance for the average joe,motorcycle industry is at it's peak rn where cars are on the down trend,fuel injection makes modern bikes very reliable,when you have an offroad bike you can literally go ANYWHEREyou can go on adventures and reach places that never saw a car.hella fun-safety is shit-exposed to weather which can be nice in summer but is moststy a downside
>>27828345OP doesn't enjoy life, and can only justify his existence by shitting on others.
>>27829114Maintenance is cheap per instance, and possibly easier than a car, but its much much more frequent, and if you're riding regularly will cost more annually. Everything else I agree with.
>>27828345its about enjoyment and bikes are a lot of fun
>>27828790Yes, they have very good MPG, are inexpensive, can also go very fast relative to many cars. However, they are more dangerous and harder to drive.
>>27829130The reason for good fuel efficiency and speed is that it is very light relative to cars and only has two wheels, also the reason for the low cost. A Corolla weights about 3,000 pounds for example, a dual sport weighs about 300 pounds.
>>27829123also the tires wear qucker but I think it's still cheaper espeically with low cc's. A 125 fuel injected honda doesn't go under 100mpg
>>27828345>Whats the usecase?If you have to ask you won't understand.
>>27829141A 250cc bike with road wheels can go off-road bikes can do hills and trails, 450cc can go over 100, both are legal for the highway which is a big thing. You need enough horsepower to ride legally on the highway at highway speeds.
>>27829155>A 250cc bike with road wheels can go over 80*, off-road bikes can do hills and trails.You can't go long distances on the highway without enough horsepower to ride legally on the highway
>>27828345That will out accelerate the vast majority of cars on the road.>>27828790>practicality >can't carry anythingU wot M8?
>>27829157>>27829155
>>27829157And 250ccs easily make that amount, what point were you trying to make?
>>27829152Based and VF pilled
>>27829164the point is that you need enough cc's to ride the highway in 450cc, otherwise you can't in other countries but trials and hills are a big thing. they're just unusual.
>>27829171A liquid cooled 250 dual-sport sold in the US right now can achieve mid-80s mph on flat ground, and hold somewhere between 60-70 on a sharp uphill grade. Where is this "you need a 450" mindset coming from, are you from 30 years ago?
>>27829176>A liquid cooled 250 dual-sport sold in the US right now can achieve mid-80s mph on flat ground, and hold somewhere between 60-70 on a sharp uphill grade.You are aware there are U.S. interstates with 75-85mph speedlimits, right? Pretending that screaming along at top speed is viable way to travel is just about pants on head retarded.
>>27829178You have now backpedaled from "legally" to "viably".
>>27829176a crf is over 125 but in speed with the off road community. in my country is on legal speeds and a honda top off. you don't normally gas up and top off in the country side. but that's not with the MPG they suggested
>>27829180I'm not that same guy. I just think it's pants on head retarded to pretend that anyone would want to ride at max rpm for untold amounts of time on the highway. It's literal cope/retardation.
>>27829187They'll do a 55mph road all day, I agree the interstate would be torture. I just want him to admit he's backpedaling.
>>27828345>Whats the usecase?sub 600cc for poorfags to get around, anything above that is for funyou should try it, might make your life better
Anyone who argues motorcycles have good gas mileage will, without a doubt, leave out the fact that you will be refueling the fucking thing all the goddamn time because it rinses through its tiny fuel tank in no time. Unless you are on a touring bike going in a straight fucking line at one speed your bike WILL run out of gas quickly in the city.This entire post does not apply to mopeds/scooters.
>>27829240And? I commute on mine, gas station is right after the exit from the freeway. Pull up, gloves off, tap card, less than a minute to pump 2.7 gallons in, gloves on, reset trip odometer, wow that was such an inconvenience to do once extra per week.
I would kill myself if I couldn’t ride
>>27829240that doesn't make any sense.if a bike gives you 50 mpg and a car gives you 30 mpgit doesn't matter how many times you need to refill, you are using more gas per mileage on a car and thus buying more gas
>>27828345they are faster and more fun to ride.if you want practicality take the bus and live in a pod nigger.
>>27828345Supplying organ donation. Giving paramedics warm bodies to practice on. Identifying criminals.
>>27829163It is true, a lot of motorcycles/mopeds are not highway legal. You can also split lanes in some cases while cars are stuck in traffic.
>>27829686liquefied organs dont transplant so well
>>27829114You left out the best thing:>splitting lanes
>>27829703These 50cc mopeds have a top speed of around 30mph, can't legally take these on the highway.
With a Super Cub you can go anywhere.
>>27829178I have a CRF300L and I've done it quite a bit. Why isn't it viable? People always say this but I think it's fine. Just go in the right lane and chill. You never need to go faster than the speed limit for any reason, as long as you're not blocking anybody else. Wear ear plugs if the ugly sound bothers you, you should be wearing them anyway.
>>27829152Based bike However >Imagine not buying the 1000
>>27828345Bikes are always fun. They can also be very quick for relatively little money too.But cars we'll some are better in every single way.
>>27829857Fair. But Merkel wasn't riding a 1000
>I am not a cagie, I am not a cagie
>>27829123fwiw though I think the relative ease of maintenance makes up for some of that, the consumables might cost more but you're not paying for labor that might be an issue if, like me, you don't have a decent place to work on a car. >>27829155I know 250s and 300s can work on the highway in some areas but it'd be suicide where I live, people do 70+ in the right lane constantly with minimal spacing between cars and the onramps are very short here, and we've also got lots of places where you have to merge from dead stopped lanes into 60+ ones, again with very little gap between cars. You really need something that can do 0-60 in 7 or 8 seconds tops to be safe.
>/o/>doesn't understand having a vehicle for enjoymentThis is why this board is dogshit.
>>27829130>more dangerous>harder to driveSkill issue
>>27829341its about how much gas you can carry retard
>>27829161>>can't carry anythingTry again, cagie
>>27829240Who cares, my bike has a range of like 150miles, could probably be stretched to 200 and I'm stopping to stretch my legs at least that often anyways.
>>27830087>cagie>ragie
>>27829240you're not wrong, my grom gets 2.03L/100km or 115mpg. it's only a 5.5L tank so it's not like I can go for long ass distances without filling up but a realistic 250km/155miles is a very reasonable amount of range out of a bike that maxes out at just over 100km/h or like 62mph
>>27830482>gromgrom
>>27828345Ill take a bike over a convertible tho.
>>27829123>but its much much more frequentWhat about it other than having to take care of chain?
>>27830942Why not have both?
>be bike rider>non organ donorstay mad sicks
>>27828345Just try one you cagie dork
>>27830945Most bikes need valve adjustments every 12k, you don't do this on most cars. Its also very expensive on some bikes. It was an all day thing for me on my Daytona the last time I did it. Sports tires only last for 5-10k miles at most, some car tires you can do 10-15k, that means more frequent tire changes and taking a wheel off most bikes is way more intensive and needs special jacks vs that of a car. Granted if you manage it correctly and don't ride that much its inexpensive than daily use of a car, but if you're putting as much mileage as that of a car annually then the cars going to typically be cheaper to maintain.
>>27829187>I just think it's pants on head retarded to pretend that anyone would want to ride at max rpm for untold amounts of timeYou're too weak for the 80s shitbike life
>>27831553>Most bikes need valve adjustments every 12kDo you live in Italy>that means more frequent tire changes and taking a wheel off most bikes is way more intensive and needs special jacksGet a bike with a center stand
>>27831553I've got a 2 valve 1 cylinder air cooled 125cc bike. Valve adjustment takes about half an hour.
>>27830924Fellow 757fag, identify yourself
>>27828345stylish suicide
>>27831553WR250R only needs a check at 43,000km. Riding with Tom has over 60,000km of hard riding on his and it's still in spec
>>27828392Spiderman does that for us
>>27829126Go-karts are more entertaining
