Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
>>27833785We must revert back to based
Oh noooNot the heckin plastic!Back in my day everything was made of cast iron. And everyone knows that old cars are fast, safe, and reliable. Deeerrrrp
>>27833785Yes, because old cars were easy to work on, right?
>you wirr assimiratekek
>>27833793you see, aside from looking like shit plastic has another big problem-it becomes more brittle with age and in general is nowhere as robust as metal. it might be okay to use in small things that dont affect overall reliability and longevity, but shit like plastic expansion tanks or charge pipes is a prime example of "designed to fail"
>>27833807The slant 6 above you entirely discredits your post
>>27833785I've never seen a (factory) car with aluminum or sheet metal catch cans, plenums, runners or cooling system components. The added weight and cost would price cars out of the market. An old Boomer rhetorical comment that won't die till they do. We used to say this shit restoring a 68 Mustang, replacing plastic parts for metal when we could, linkage, bushings, etc. Then Boomer wants to go even faster. Now he needs to shave weight. Now he's replacing front quarter panels and hood for plastic race panels. Move the battery to the rear, replace old car shit with new mods, more plastics, more shaving weight. It really is a dumb argument. Modern cars follow the same path as making old cars faster. Plastics are also better and last longer now, same for paint jobs. Where does the idea that a car part never needs replacing come from? These are wear items subject to wear and tear, why wouldn't it need to be replaced at some point? Nothing last forever, even in a controlled environment.
>>27833790but can I still have AC?
>>27833926"plastic" is not all the same thing thoughbeitfiber reinforced plastic is very tough stuffthe recycled playmobil plastic bmw uses is not
>>27834247>Where does the idea that a car part never needs replacing come from? These are wear items subject to wear and tear, why wouldn't it need to be replaced at some point?I agree, but manufacturers have made car modules that complicate the ECM, and if their module VIN number doesn't match the VIN number in the ECM, then your car won't start. But to update the VIN number requires $4,000 subscription software from the manufacturer to do it.New cars could be easier to work on if the information screen could just tell you to replace part X with a link that orders the part and a YouTube video showing how to replace the part. But NOOOoo we can't live in the future. We need to fuck around with bullshit subscription shit.
>>27833785I want to say one word to you. Just one word.PLASTICS !There’s a great future in plastics. Think about it. Will you think about it?
>>27833926Metal rusts and is expensive to repair
>>27834350>But to update the VIN number requires $4,000 subscription softwarethere are much cheaper third party solutions for pretty much all makes and modelsalfaobd for example is $50, runs on your phone, and can do things like writing the VIN to new parts or changing factory settings on many fiat and chrysler models of completely disparate architectures.
>>27834331No. Vent windows only, and you'll come to appreciate their superiority.
>>27834331That's a dealer option on the Executive trim, that'll be... (deafening mechanical calculator noises) ...$25,499.98 more, sir.
>>27834586I'll just get the window unit.
>>27834247>your oil pan is a wear item
>>27834543>Just download some hacked software on your phone
>>27834247Fuck off you cretinous engineer, go back to the dark, damp, smelly hole you belong in. I've seen far too many plastic engine parts fail due to embrittlement, warping, or just being unable to cope with the job to believe that they can replace metal components. The weight savings are negligible, it's purely done to reduce cost at the expense of longevity and reliability.Woe betide those who extol the virtues of plastic components. May your bloodline end short and your death be long and excruciating.
>>27833785>why doesn't my rental car have a metal engineYou voted for this
>>27834247>Plastics are also better and last longer now,Man shut the FUCK up
>>27834247>aluminum plenums, runnersbro what
>>27833807very common engine
>>27834247I rather have plastic panels than plastic engine parts. Hell I would love to get some plastic replica fenders for my car. Plastic door skins and hood. Engine not so much.
>>27834983it would be nice if it were open source but it's way better than buying a hacked starscan from china with trojans in the install disc.
>>27834534Plastic cracks and can't be repaired, has to be replaced, good luck finding plastic parts for an older car, some piece of shit plastic trim piece is usually more of a headache to find than a metal part and they don't come cheap for how shit quality they are
>>27836026I replaced a plastic part for $8 on eBay. If you're an absolute retard and don't know how to Google then I can see how that would be difficult.
>>27834810You’re not poor are you? You can afford to replace an oil pan every oil change can’t you?
>>27836480No, because it requires an engine pull out.
