Why don’t Americans buy Volkswagens?
>>27982640jerman piece of shitwe have chebby for shitboxes over here
dieselgate nearly killed VW's reputation. you can shake a reputation of unreliability, but getting people's cars taken from emissions cheating royally pissed people off and made them never touch VW again.
>>27982640Honda dropped the ball in europe hard, but riced out civics are just as loved over there as they are in america. what happened?
>>27982640>Chevy sells 0 cars in EuropeDidn't even know that was possible.
>>27982657Honda actually invested in American production and distribution in a way no foreign manufacturer ever had prior, whereas they didn't give a shit about Europe. In Europe people only really care about the Type R stuff, sort of like how in the US the only BL cars that sold well were the sports cars.
>>27982640Because vws are GAY as FUCK
>>27982658Chevrolet was sold in Europe as a budget stablemate to Opel/Vauxhall for a while in the early 00s, and the C8 Corvette was designed to meet EU road regulations, but it isn't sold as a Chevrolet there.
>>27982658>>27982668chevy in europe would be completely redundant when they can just badge it as an opel instead and take advantage of those more familiar dealer networks. the Camaro and Vette should just be given their own branding and lose the chevy branding as well. part of the reason the camaro struggled in europe more than the vette despite being much cheaper than the vette is the chevy branding. there's no dealer networking for chevy.
>>27982640A VW is essentially just a Chevy, but everything has German import costs
>>27982640a lot of americans in my experience associate vw with being shitboxes or unreliable due to boomers owning beetles as the default compact import for a quarter of a century. they are quite common in the city but I almost never see them in rural areas. I also think that this infograph being in 2023 is heavily skewed toward their newer models which were not well received here compared to tye earlier gens.
>>27982649Nobody in North America knows or gives a single fuck about dieselgate. Remember this is the land of coal rolling diesel trucks.
>>27982640Dunno. I live in a ski town that's densely populated with Audis, so seeing this is wild to me. Plus my dad was always a Volkswagen guy, and I followed suit and ended up in an Audi of my own. I guess people in parts of the county that don't have to deal with harsh winters just don't have any reason to buy them.
>>27982866all of the vw owners who lost their cars would know about it because they were directly impacted by it. its not like they heard about dieselgate on the news, and just kept on driving their cars as normal.
>>27982640I want a tiguan but they have terrible reputation for just dying over 150k without meticulous otist maintenance, meanwhile every other car in segment can go 200k plus on oil changes
>>27982674GM sold Vauxhall/Opel to Peugeot in 2017. GM currently has zero presence in Europe now
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>>27982949There is zero reason to run any oil less than 40 weight in all engines. Super dooty diesel 15w-40 goes in all my injuns.
>>27982640Fucking krauts on damage control now that China is going to nuke them with tariffs.
>>27982640>German overengineering but in a cuck wheel drive econoboxFuck that. If you're gonna nickel and dime me at least give me a proper Rwd platform
>>27982866the kind of people who bought diesel golfs and jettas definitely do lol
>>27982649This. There were HUNDREDS of those diesel VWs parked on some giant, racetrack lot in Colorado for years off the highway.
>>27982640Why don't Americans eat doner kebabs and gyros pita? Because they have burritos and tacos, which fill the same role but more closely match local tastes. Same thing for cars. Americans don't buy VW because they have alternatives that more closely match local tastes.
>>27983229>food analogy>food analogy that claims that Americans have no taste and thus adopted Mexican taste>In cars and foodA little bit cringe but ultimately based.
>>27983229>Why don't Americans eat doner kebabs and gyros pita?We do though?
>>27982826>German import costsVWs aren't particularly cheap even in Yurop any more.Even their cheapest piece of shit's poverty trim goes for around 20k in many countries, and for that price you might get a small car with hand-cranked windows, an 80 hp 1.0 L engine with no turbo, terrible audio and maybe very simple cruise control if you're lucky.If you bump the trim enough to get a half-decent engine and some basic features, it's probably closer to 30k, at which point you're likely to get better "people's car" value from some other brand.
>>27983246>We do though?In the same way that Americans buy VWs.
>>27983267I can throw a rock and hit like 3 gryo joints here.
>>27983236The Americans invaded Mexico and found that they like the food of the conquered people. The Krauts, on the other hand, found that they like the food of their invaders.
>>27983273And VW sold 330k cars in the US last year.
>>27982640America is enormous, Americans put double the mileage on cars as Euro, Volkswagen is not a reliable car for that market, you’ll only get 100k miles out of a Volkswagen, over that they are scrap
>>27983277>57 million Spanish speakers in the US You seem to also liked the language as well. And the people in general considering that you still import them in the millions.
>>27983295>America is enormous (its roughly the same size as Europe.> Following close behind in mileage is a tiny Nordic island nation>Still thinks that miles traveled is correlated with the nations landmass.Golems are obsessed with size and are severely lacking in education and basic logic.
>>27982658Chevy left Europe in 2018 when they sold Opel/Vauxhall to PSA along with all the dealer networks etc....a dealer network Stellantis now uses to sell Jeeps and Chryslers in Europe with
>>27982640Volvobros?
>>27982992>t. hasn't bought a car since the 90s
>>27982640Do they make excessively heavy lifted trucks with headlights that would blind the sun? No? Well there's your answer
>>27982640Too expensive to be seen as a viable option by most over similar performing US and Asian vehicles.
>>27982640bc they're shit>gli stretched timing chain
I imagine that the Ford Focus pushes the golf out of the market and wagons just aren't popular.
>>27983676>similar performing US and Asian vehiclesGo find VW with over 150k miles, they don’t exist outside of obsessive dweebs and their rotten out TDI. Meanwhile US Jap and Korean cars are everywhere
>>27982640My mom and sister both have their own silver VW beetles and they like them a lot
>>27983771this is confirmation bias. the models that are old enough to even have that many miles pop up all the time with over 200k. sure they're all mostly clapped but that's more the owners' fault. I think the real reason most of them end up junked is that because they're clapped and parts/euro shop labor prices are so inflated in the states, that as soon as anything gives up it's mechanically totalled. only diehard fans care enough to actually pay the money to get them fixed right.
>>27982640K-jetronic in economy cars earned them a reputation for being needlessly complex ages ago, dieselgate was highly publicised and inserted more fear uncertainty and doubt into the public even though it was a nothingburger. VW refuses to sell actual economy cars like the virtus in the us to compete with the sentra and corolla
>>27983500If you live somewhere hot, 15w-40 is usually better for engines in the long run. Reduction of pumping losses and increase in efficiency is what is making oils get thinner, not the pursuit of keeping an engine going for as long as possible.
>>27984013>refusesMore like can't. Doesn't meet emissions or crash safety. Import taxes and the hand of the big 3 US auto companies influencing policy to monopolise the US market means VW would lose money of they tried selling a Polo in the US. That's why Mexico has them, but you don't.
>>27984044Sucks to be them, the Germans lobbied for the worlds strictest emissions laws because of muh grey market cars, i have the worlds smallest violin they axed themselves from the market
>>27983980>the models that are old enough to even have that many miles pop up all the time with over 200kThe highest mileage Volkswagen are rebadged Chrysler minivans>they are too expensive too maintain Yeah, they’re unreliable crap, without meticulous maintenance they’re dead at 150k miles, which is why they have no market share, that’s just not enough for American market, especially at VW markup
>>27982640because the majority of US carbuyers who are buying fwd commuter shitboxes are going to pick the ones with a reputation for reliability (Civic, Corolla, Accord, Camry) and Volkswagen has a reputation for being horrifically unreliable
>>27982640Peasant brand.
>>27983459Iceland notably has very poor public transport and car centric urban planning, much like AmericaI'm sure people in New York, San Francisco and Boston - the American cities with the best public transport networks and European-like urban planning don't drive much more than Europeans although I'm open to corrections
>>27984206they aren't inherently more expensive to maintain or unreliable if you do it yourself or know someone who can work on them. the issue is that unlike in slavic countries where vw is everywhere, you can't just find a random mexican dad in the states who will fix them for next to nothing. that's why there are so many "euro specialists" even though they're not that special. most normies would rather get another shitbox than deal with bmw tier inflated labor cost once the car starts nickel and diming them. you and I both know you pulled that 150k number out of your ass.
>>27982674>the Camaro and Vette should just be given their own brandingin fact they tried selling the corvette simply as the corvette in europe and the result was that everyone got very confused, I don't believe europeans are as accustomed to the notion of car brands being mostly fake and all under the control of three or four huge, vague corporate entities like "general motors" that make them up and kill them off whenever they feel like it and stick their badges on whatever they please as americans are, despite that being the situation in europe almost to the same extent that it is in america, and besides europeans are not in fact remote tribal peoples of desert or jungle barely in contact with civilisation and have heard of chevrolet and know the corvette comes from them, and so when they saw a car being marketed simply as "the corvette" most assumed it was a chinese knock-off
>>27984213>horrificly unreliableyes it’s that simple, they had larger market share decades ago but Americans realized they are just plain and simple bad cars, why Audi is full in on leasing also, 4 years or less they are ok>>27984387They are more expensive because they have more failures per mile than domestic and Asian models
>>27984672>more failures per mile than domesticnevermind, it was bait this whole time. disregard.
>>27982674Maybe in europe but ABSOLUTELY NOT in america Its not just a camaro here, its a CHEVY camaro.
