Let's play a game, /o/.Describe the Engine in your Car in such a way that someone could guess what Engine it is. Ask questions about the Engine or the Powertrain, but you can't directly ask what Car it's in. Goal is correctly guessing a specific Engine Code. We'll call it "Motor Charades".I'll start.Features:It's an All-Aluminum Foam Cast Long Block, Bore x Stroke Ratio is Undersquare, it has 10.0:1 Compression, Multiport Fuel Injection, DOHC, 16 Valves, VVT Cams, a Muffled Intake, a Choked Exhaust, Redline around 6300.Despite that, it makes just enough power to get out of it's own way, probably due to various improvements it inherited from it's bigger, younger brother.155 hp @6100, 150 lb-ft @4900. Don't let the 2nd Torque number fool you though, it's beefy down low. VVT has its benefits.2 Timing Chains to be found here. One for the Cams, another for the Water Pump and 2 balance shafts.Problems:The Timing Chain Tensioner (for the Cams) likes to die (especially the older style), at best jumping a bit out of time to limp to a shop, at worst bending all your Valves, damaging your Pistons, completely and utterly trashing your entire valvetrain and your whole timing system. A totalled Long Block, essentially.PCV can be problematic. It's one of those fixed orfice style Breathers that likes to suck in Oil and start drinking if it gets clogged up enough.Honestly? As long as you keep an eye on that Tensioner you're fucking golden. It's not even that hard to change them anyway. You'll know if a Tensioner is gonna die soon if you hear some rattle on startup that either takes a while to stop or doesn't go away. If the Water Pump ever decides to die, it's normally a pain in the ass to do but luckily for me, they aren't known for going bad very often AND, my newer revision has a neat little access plate.Trivia:Of all companies, Lotus had a hand in the design of the Engine Family this guy is from.Ok, what Engine am I talking about /o/?
Ok I'll go:NIGGERSwhich engine am I talking about?
>>27983266>redline 6300Toyota>150hpCamry 4 cylinder>VVTFrom the 2000+ Camry
>>27983283Pentastar
>>27983285Nnnope, It's not even Japanese
>>27983283VQ35DE or whatever it's called
>>27983290
>>27983266Easy…>717 horsepower from factory>Makes bmw owners seethe with its loud supercharger whine
>>27983266"suspect is a black male""copy 24"vvrrreetetee bbrrrRRRRRRRNRNRNMMMmmmmmmm
>>27983367Hemi 6.2 Hellcat Engine.
>>279833835.7 Hemi?
>>27983266something from GM?
>>27983777Yessir, you're one step closer
>>27983283the stolen one
>Cam synchronizer go EEEEEEEEEEEE>Engine go kaput>Otherwise it is a solid engineYou'll never guess.
>>27983814Uhhh Ford Vulcan 3.0 V6?
>>27983729yep, can't miss that one.
New one:>Transversal>V8>FWD only>Transaxle that holds 12 quarts of fluid!>All aluminium construction>Notoriously poorly engineered head studs>Starter motor is tucked in the V8 plenum, requiring the removal of the intake manifold to replace>Engine will only leave the engine bay from below, going down with the front suspension cradle still attached to it>despite being designed to be FWD, it was once adapted to longitudinal RWD use for only one car, which is now a pretty rare and desirable car
Greatest Honda engine ever made
>>27983902Honda RA168E, 1,494 cc (91.2 cu in), 80° turbocharged V6 (2.5 Bar limited), mid-engine, longitudinally mounted.Car is McLaren MP4/4
>>27983875Finally someone gets it.
>>27983899L47 Aurora Northstar?
>>27983926Aye son, you damn right.
>>27983915>Finally someone gets it.It was literally the following post.
>>27983959I posted the same thing in a couple similar threads a long time ago and no one got it.
>>27983266ECVTPussy ass enginebulletproof
>>279840672ZR-FXE?Thinking of a Prius but not sure which gen
The block is red
>>279832661.2l (or 1.1l, depending on who you ask) inline 4, cast iron closed deck block, alu head. 16 valves, SOHC. Dead simple and dead reliable, just feed it new timing belts from time to time.Calculated that fuel cut kicks in at 6k, the car it's in doesn't have a tach.Makes a whole 25% more horsepower than its 8V counterpart, and was also briefly built as a turbo variant with a modified head, lower compression pistons, an adorable little oil cooler, and a metal valve cover and intake manifold instead of the plastic items of the NA version I have.
>>27983266gm ecotec
>>27984171Yessir, you got it.
>>27984127Renault... D4F?Motherfucker are you driving around in a Twingo?
>>279837694.6 modular was the intent, but I guess the vreeetetetete BRRRMMM starter and initial rev wouldn't really work for a cop car that's already running and idling. damn.
>>27984227Correct
>>27984228The whatever engine is in an Altima should that be.
Maximum difficulty - sound only:wwwwwhiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIWWWWRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmburburburburburburb10 seconds after, several police siren noises to follow.
>>27984337oh dang the engine was already mentioned in this thread
>>27984337>>27984340Trombone
>>27983266Two words, distributor anxiety
>>27984479LT1fucking Optispark
>>27983784has to be ecotec, probably the 2.2 as the regular 2.0 had less hp if I'm not mistaken
>>27985977Yessir you got it.Though there were no "regular" 2.0s, every ecotec 2.0 was either supercharged or turbocharged.My eco 2.2 is a later variant (LAP) with VVT, see. It picks up a couple hp over the older 2.2 (L61).
>>27983266>Diesel>First produced in 07>Wikipedia for the engine has an entry for "timing chain problems"Shouldn't be too hard
>>27983290This was my immediate thought.
>>279883506.7 powerstroke?
>>27988389where is "timing chain problems" in wikipedia?
>supercharged>massively de-tuned from factory>components that pass coolant are its achilles heels
sohc 1.2L i4made in ussr
>>27984126displacement? 8v or 16v?
>>27988395Jag 4.0?
>>27988350n47
>>27990684Correct>>27988846let me guessvaz 2101?
>>27990587Nope. Good guess though, the fault lies in the vagueness of my clues t b h.
>3L>straight six>naturally aspirated >7000 rpm redline
>>27993442that could be so many thingsN52B30? Is it a BMW at least?
>>27993695Correct. >could be so manyCan’t think of any other NA I6 that can rev up to 7,000. The S54 and S50 can rev beyond that though.
>>27991279yes
I'll do two>4L inline six overhead cam>Diesel inline six, Sleeved down instead of detuning for lower power output, injector pump is run off accessory shaft.
AnotherThis engine was the company's first in house made engine family. 1.5L inline 4, dohc, wasted spark, slightly less power than more expensive competitors.This engine is sought after for an Australian racing series.
bvvvvvvvvvvBRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*upshift*BRRRRRRRR (40 mph)
3.5 liter V6 that often ends up in MR2s and Corollas
>>279832662.4L Chrysler
>>27995127Ford Australia Straight Six no not the Barra, what came before>>279951942GR-FE
I push gas it goes vroom
>>27995197Bro can't read
>>27995197What part of All Aluminum and Timing Chain do you not understand?
>>27995209are you more familiar than i am with the 2.4L Chrysler "World Engine" (GEMA)
>>27995215ohhhh you're talking about THAT pile of trash lolI thought you were talking about the old mid 90s to early 2000s Chrysler 4 cylinder line.Sorry to disappoint you, but it's not that either.
>>27995218that fits the description to a T. its not the GM 2.4L Ecotec LE5 is it?
>>27995219Oooh you're very very close, I'll just give you the W.Yeah it's the Ecotec. Not the 2.4 LE5 though, the later 2.2, codename LAP.
>>27995222nice. how about thisThis 3.5L V6 is known for a great mix of performance and efficiency. It uses dual-injection, DOHC with 24 valves, and variable valve timing on both the intake and exhaust cams. With a high compression ratio, it gives you strong torque and decent top-end power, making around 290 hp and 270 lb-ft of torque. It’s generally reliable, but you might run into carbon buildup or a water pump failure down the line. You’ll usually find it in sedans and SUVs.
>>27995223A dual injection engine with carbon buildup issues? That's odd.Water Pump issues? I wanna say the later Ford Cyclone 3.5, AKA the Duratec 35. But I couldn't find any variants that match 290 hp and 270 lb-ft exactly.
>>27983266late (2009) ecotec 2.2 easy
>>27995248Someone's on the ball (unless you just read the thread)
>>27995199correct, name it though
>>27995389The uhh, Intech?
>>27995398
>>27995251no im just autistic>t. saturn ion owner
>>27995148G4EC/G4FK
>>27995480>>27995404
>>27995201Nissan sd25?
>>27995127One left to go
>>27983283Buick V6 (GM 3.8 3800)
MAAAAAAAAANG MAAAAAAAAAAAAANG MAAAAAAANG
heres one only autistic people or trailer trash will guess>4 cylinder>came out in the early 80s, sold into the early 2000s with minor revisions and increases in bore along the way>pushrod>only sold in north america>came in cars and trucks
>>27997142I WAS gonna say the GM 122, but it's bore was stuck at 89mm, rather it's stroke was increased for more displacement.
>>27997142I wanted to say Iron Duke but that debuted in the late 1970s.
>>27983266It's a 750cc V4 with gear driven cams.
>>27997240Honda VF/VFR
Its big its small its complicated its easy its cheap its expensive its slow its fast its loud its quiet its smooth its noisy its efficient its low economyand I'm not lying
>>27997276Yep
>>27983266heres one >5.0/5.0 supercharged >came out in 2010, still in use.>has a timing chains, guides, and tensioner failure problem. > 375 hp ~ 600hp>Is somewhat underrated
>>27997373Jaguar AJ133
>>27983283FA24 boxer
2.0 turbo 4 cylinder260 hp, 260 lb-ft torque 290 hp with a factory tune
>>27997436Yep! That's the one!
>>279974414B11t?
>>27997160whoops my bad I mis-remembered about how they increased displacment. you got it. makes me wonder if i could get a 2.0 crank and destroke my 2.2 for high rpm when i rebuild it again, though thats kinda retarded
>>27997441Ayyy LNF
>>27997461I was in the same boat as you once, wondering what I could to the 2200 in my Sunfire to make it less of a dog.The answer was getting an Ecotec. I haven't looked back desu.There just isn't any decent aftermarket for 122s, anything worthwhile doing is pretty much always a custom fab of some sort.If you're willing to put up with that, see if you can't grab some forged guts and fab some stuff up for a Turbo (and maybe some stiff valve springs). It's the only route outside of Nitrous to actually make power.
right number of cylinders, wrong direction
>>27997472i have an ecotec in my ion and while i like it, the 2.2 ohv has a lot of charm and is really easy to work on. I'm keeping it stockish for the time being other than a ported head and ls7 lifter internals in the stock lifter housings, and a full exhaust. I wanna get a cam but they cost way too much for the only ones left for sale ($625 lol). I've been tempted to get a turbo and run it at low boost just to help with the altitude sickness it gets in the mountains but im not worried about that right now. I could also get 2200 pistons and blow the motor up with compression. I'd have to swap to the f23 first, which I dont wanna do because the mk7 shifts amazingly and im not a fan of the f23 in my saturn. I'm not aiming for power with it, just want it to have a bit more pep.Were you on j-body.org back when?>>27997483ls4
>>27997490Nah I'm a young'un, I only lurked j-body.org, was always too much of a cowardly fag to put myself on there. By the time I would've just about mustered the courage to sign up, I'd already sold my Sunfire.
>>27997525im a newfag there too, i got my funfire in 2021 and just lurk. im guessing youre op with a cobalt now?
>>27997548You got me. Brakes on the Sunfire gave out one day, pissing Brake Fluid all over. Just lost patience with it and moved on.Imagine my shock when I start smelling GAS shortly after getting my Cobalt. Yup, Fuel Lines were Metal Cancer'd up.My taste in cars doesn't fall far from the tree, and neither does GM's bullshit.Lucky for me, someone made an aftermarket stainless steel braided flexible Fuel Line that was pretty much plug-n-play for like $150. Could've I made my own lines cheaper? Yeah, but it would've been a pain in the ass and I didn't feel like getting rinsed at a shop either.
>>27997558do you have anything done to that cobalt or is it just stock? I havnt messed with the ecotec in my saturn other than doing the chain tensioner the day after I got it. Also if youre on the east coast, ecotecs on the dragon is next month I believe. will probably be a bunch of ricers and older folks but it could be cool. I'm gonna try and make it up there
>>27997613It's basically stock, 2.2 eco guts are weak as hell and I'd be more comfortable just getting a SS with a LNF and building that up.I'm east coast but north of the border. Frankly too busy with personal shit to come down south.Nice Sunfire.