On a scale from 1-100 how retarded is it to leave my car like this for winter. Keep in mind I tightened the lug nuts>inb4 jack standsDidn't wanna leave the suspension hanging all winter
Fuck off, ricer.
>>28068863>Didn't wanna leave the suspension hanging all winterIf 1 is barely retarded and 100 is going full retard, you're a 675.
>>28068863>Didn't wanna leave the suspension hanging all winter???
>>28068863Why tf don't you just put the wheels back on?
>>28068885I swapped out the brakes and now only my track wheels will fit. Not supposed to store track tires under 11c which my garage will definately get colder than.
>>28068889Put your wheels back on and buy a couple space heaters dude. Even if you think it'll cost a lot it'll cost way less than replacing your rotors after they sit like that for 4 months.
>>28068863>Didn't wanna leave the suspension hanging all winterAh yes, much bigger issue than loading bearing disc breaks...Plus if you wanted it jacked up this way you could have just done it by jacking under the control arms, retard
>these are the people that think their opinions are important enough to put trips onKek, kys faggot
>>28068889get some cheap ricer wheels from ebay or a pick un pull
dude why is your gas can crushed in that's embarassing
If the center is at same level than others I see no problem
>>28068863
>>28068889fun tidbit but the weight of that corner is supposed to be supported by the hub, not the edge of the rotor
>>28068934Where you think the rotor will transmit the force,einstein?
>>28068863>aftermarket fi for only 265whp>junkyard bbk for only 265whp>running falkens willingly>o no now my other set of wheels is junk>im just gonna leave my car on blocksits all consistent
Let's use countering logic. If that rotor won't hold the weight of the corner then surely it won't hold the braking power if that massive fat caliper.
>>28068940My argument to that would be directional force vs torque force. Same reason you can put a car on the pinch welds, but could probably fold them over with a pair of vice grips.
>>28068940the "braking power" isn't the weight of the car for extended period of time, dumbass
>>28068965Let the caliper hang and put your regular wheels then.
>>28069013Bla bla. My point stands as both measure properties of the steel.
>>28068863Why don't you just put it on jackstands instead of a spinning rotor kek. Stupid ass ricer.
>>28069016Different properties under different conditions, you fucking moron.
>>280691141on1 correspondence
>>28068889Sell your old wheels and get some that fit, put some cheap all seasons on them. You'll even be able to drive the car a bit (unless your road is salted)
>>28068863Your track tires are going to last 2 seasons at most. I drove and kept my ziii in the winter. They were fine until the tread wore down.Also if you can afford track tires you can afford hub stands or spare wheels.Also you can put your car on jack stands and put some lumber under the rotors to compress the suspension a few inches. And no, those bricks are not safe to keep your car like that. It won't take much force to tip it sideways. Just use jack stands or put your wheels back on. This is not the time to cheap out.
Wtf is this ricers obsession with not letting the suspension hang freely lol, so fucking autistic and stupid. What do you think the dampers or bushings do when they're sitting on a parts shelf LMAO
>>28069170Idk about you, but when I buy struts they come compressed.
>>28068863I hope those are not chinesum lug nuts. Please buy real ones. Preferably aluminum ones. They are very light and good for track if you already have lightweight wheels.-t broke his cheap lugs off and has to remove the entire wheel with control arms attached and take it to a machine shop to drill out
>>28069173That's cause it's cheaper to ship a smaller part. >>28069170Idk man people always just told me to not leave suspension hanging
>>28069173It's for packaging retard. You think they orient them vertically when they stack them up too so that all the fluid sits nearly at the bottom like your dumbass autistic mind expects lmao.
>>28069181>Idk man people always just told me to not leave suspension hangingRicer lore. Did you buy some brackets to fit those Cadillac calipers or do they just use the same mounting points as the OEM brembos from Subaru?
>>28069189Bought a bracket kithttps://ctsvbrakeswap.com/collections/subaru-kits/products/frs-brz-gt-86-4-piston-ats-caliper-bracket-kit
>>28069198What pads did you put in it
>>28068863>Didn't wanna leave the suspension hanging all winterDo you have stock rubber bushings? If you've installed some sort of solid bushings, delrin or poly, then leaving the suspension to hang wont hurt anything. Poly and delrin rotate over the metal sleeves inside the bushing. Stock rubber bushings are bonded to the metal sleeve so they have to twist to allow the suspension to hang. Its why you have to load the suspension to ride height before torquing down rubber bushings.
>>28069216POWER STOP PST1001Wouldn't recommend them. Massive pad fade after 3 laps even with the bbk. Rotor temps were around 350c in the pits. Next year I'm going with hawk er1 pads in the rear and dc80/90 in the front
>>28068863Get hub stands or spare set of junkyard wheels.
>>28069179>aluminum lug nutsJust get steel ones you retard
>>28068863Leaving the suspension hanging does zero harm Having all the weight loaded onto the rotors on the other hand...
>tripfag>completely retardedgo ahead, leave it sitting like thisfuck it, do the back too
>>28069366You haven't given a reason not to do it yet tho. It's a huge chunk of cast iron bolted to a vehicle sitting on a block of wood. Like what specifically is going to get damaged here. I don't see why a huge chunk of cast iron can't support 800lbs but I'm open to opinions. Just saying I'm retarded isn't a constructive discussion.
>>28069387>You haven't given a reason not to do itwhere did I say not to do it phaggot?gl;hf
>>28069396You said I was retarded, which I'm not denying, but that's implying I'm doing something incorrect. Again, I'm not denying I'm doing something incorrectly, but I want to hear why.
>>28069401Nothing, you're Gucci broMake sure to use a soft wood
>>28069387>. I don't see why a huge chunk of cast iron can't support 800lbs but I'm open to opinions. Just saying I'm retarded isn't a constructive discussion.you leave that shit on wood for months you have no idea if it's gonna split and the car tumbles, just put it on stands, ricer, wrenchlet.
>>28069387brake rotor engineered to be squeezed and get hotbrake rotor NOT engineered to support weighti hope this helps
>>28069441oh along with >>280694292x4 block can also only support about 1000 psi of bearing stress, so having 800~ lbs on that corner in that tiny spot is pushing its limits
Kek what a fucking dumbass goddamnYou're a pikachu ass bitch, you know that? Shoulda got an E92 335i or M3 kek
>>28069228>bbk ricecake bought the literal worst pads above autozone tier>next hes gonna try mismatched instalock fronts + endurance rear = 0 rear brakes>probably running shit fluid too
>>28068863It's fine. Solid bricks don't tend to shatter and the wood spreads the load. I've supported vehicles and other heavy shit in similar ways for several decades without failure. Wood is a classic pad because it doesn't tend to slip.Everyone who lacks decades of professional wrenching experience STFU. I use a mix of 6x6 and 4x4 cribbing with a few 2x4 shims and nothing about that vehicle makes failure remotely likely.The best advice I can give those interested is seek adult sources for information since there is nothing new to be learnt regarding storing objects on blocks, there is only stuff individuals do not know.
>>28068900>>Didn't wanna leave the suspension hanging all winter>Ah yes, much bigger issue than loading bearing disc breaks...Neither matters even slightly. Never make anything up and never assume you know more than generations of skilled techs.
>>28069181>Idk man people always just told me to not leave suspension hangingProfessionals and did they explain why, or just retarded kids who assume without knowledge or experience?What do those faggots assert will be negatively affected and precisely how?
>>28069316What do you imagine cast iron sitting lightly loaded on wood blocks will do?
>>28069492>wood blocks
>>28069441>brake rotor engineered to be squeezed and get hot>brake rotor NOT engineered to support weightThat doesn't change the fact that it's still a chunk of cast iron. To damage a brake rotor at room temp, it would likely take hundreds of thousands of ft-lbs to break it. I'm fairly sure putting a direct load under it of 800lbs isn't going to hurt it at all.
>>28069492>light loadedThe entire corner weight is loaded onto a point the size of toenail, as opposed to the cradle of a jack stand, or the entire contact patch of a tire.
>>28069505It's not the size of a toenail. If you put 800lbs/0.23inches, you're looking at 3500psi. The wood wouldn't support that. The whole reason I put the wood down was so that it would compress to match the brake rotor diameter and spread the load out.
>>28069512*0.23 inches squared*
>>28069512You must have small toes kek.Either way it looks gay and lazy which is what really matters.Having your suspension drooping is a non issue. Race shops leave cars sitting up on a 2 post lift for entire off seasons.And if you want to work on it for any reason you'll need to jack it back up to go on stands anyway.
>>28069596>Having your suspension drooping is a non issue. Race shops leave cars sitting up on a 2 post lift for entire off seasons.As >>28069223 said poly bushings it's fine, rubber bushings, which is what I have, it's not fine.
>>28069606What difference does it make if the suspension is unloaded for 15 minutes or 3 months? The bushing has to go through the same movement either way...
>>28069512>The wood wouldn't support that.True. Wood is good for something around 400psi in compression perpendicular to grain... or something like that. But yeah, the wood would be the first thing to fail here. It always surprises me how much a tiny little bolt can support in shear.
>>28069623Temperature and humidity changes, causes expansion/contraction lf the rubber while its under poor loading conditions. When the rubber is held in an extended position, it can deform, especially if it's left that way for weeks or months. Rubber has a tendency to "set" or take on a new shape if left under stress. This means that when the car is lowered again, the bushings may not return to their original shape, affecting suspension geometry and causing looseness or play in the suspension. In older vehicles, such as mine which are almost 10 years old now, already have dry/cracking bushings. Leaving these bushings stressed for months can easily lead to failure
>>28069639Imagine having a dedicated track car with worn out 10yo bushings kek!
>>28069642Hey man gotta work with what I got. Mortgage and house repairs come before Toys.
>>28069448>1000 psiNot even.
>>28069387It's fine. This thread is full of retards
>>28068863Just fabricate some jack stands that bolt onto the lug nuts like this. Put casters on the bottom of them so you can push the car around.
>>28069645Yet you're wasting money on irrelevant shit when you claim your suspension is too worn out to let sit for the winter.
Engineer here. What's done is done, there's no difference in the car being in that position for a second or 100 years unless you live in earthquake country or termites eat the wood.
>>28069927Already existshttps://technotoytuning.com/garage/parts/techno-toy-tuning-hub-stands
>>28069952>$200 Jesus Christ just get out your welder
>>28068882>>28068881not op here, not sure if it's true but I've read somewhere that it's not good to leave shocks all stretched out for too long, they get messed up somehow, I think it applies to cars that are stored for really long, like boomers storing classics &/or some rare car, maybe it's the same reason new shocks come compressed with that plastic band you have to remove before installing or maybe they just want to take up less room to use less cardboard packaging.
>>28070095>I've read somewhere that it's not good to leave shocks all stretched out for too long, they get messed up somehowIn a car they'll never reach full extension even at maximum suspension travel. The messed up somehow is extreme long storage times where the rod begins to rust.
>>28070099My shocks are the suspension travel limiters on my car. I have to use a jack to raise the knuckles before removing the shocks. Then the springs push the wheels way lower afterwards.
>>28069645Didn't you just buy new brakes lmao
>>28068863Please tell me the grain direction on that wood block is aligned with the brake disk lmao
>>28069645reminder
Why not just put the blocks under the control arms?
>>28070629There's no flat spot under the control arms to put a block of wood. Whole corner of the car would be resting on the edge of a piece of stamped sheet metal.
>>28069659>parallel to grain>1300 psi
>less than 50 pesosjesus fucking christ, you already do basic wrench shit, how do you not already own a set
>>28071223Dam wait a minute I'm retarded
>>28069483>Never make anything up and never assume you know more than generations of skilled techs.I was a tech, retard. Go ahead point me to the shop full of skilled techs where even one car is resting on rotors
>>28071180>yet somehow the wood is fineReally makes you think
>>28071547>yet somehow the wood is fineFor now.
>>28071180Bro, I'm a structural engineer and have designed more wood apartment buildings than cheeseburgers that you've flipped.Parallel to grain would be perpendicular to the cut edge in this photo and it's the direction that would see axial load if the 2x were oriented as a wall stud on its edge (at which point you're going to see a bunch of reduction factors and for a given unbraced length, buckling is going to reduce that allowable axial capacity such that you're left with the controlling failure mechanism being the stud bearing on the sill plates (compression perpendicular to grain, just like in this image).It looks like it has a decent contact area; something like 2" x 1.5" .. so 2*1.5*405psi = 1215lb allowable, which is reasonable when you think that a car like that is under 4000lbs.>>28071674Nah, compression perpendicular to grain isn't really time dependent like almost all the other properties are. If it's going to crush, it would crush almost right away.You would be right if that 2x was acting like a beam and was stressed in bending and shear.
>>28071723dont care, didnt readthe grain runs along the length of the 2x4, tripfag ricer has his rotor sitting on the 2x4 laying down, not standing up. putting force against the long side of the wood is perpendicular to the grain, thus the wood likely wont fail due to stressperhaps you need to make more apartment buildings for illegals, making me defend retarded ricers
>>28068863just make sure to make a thread in a few months
