>For Classics made from 1979 or older, with few exceptions.>Everybody has their own taste, but some tastes are wrong. If you aren't sure if your car is classic or not, it's not.>Your Honda Miata doesn't belong here.>US, Euro, Jap, or whatever.>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.>Period correct performance > cosmetics.>Metal > plastic.>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.>JBweld and RTV can fix anything>If you see rust there is more.>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multimeter.>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.>POOPOOPEEPEE>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.>No one cares about your MPG>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded>Nothing is as easy as it seems>OP is DEFINITELY a fagPrevious thread: >>28063334
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>>28083184Mighty flattered to have my car headline the /ccg/. I'll have to get a screenshot later...
>>28077743>>28077738jumping on the oreilys hate wagon i bought a car out of state and drove it home, it needed a battery to make the trip, before a year the battery is below 12v, go to warranty it and the store in town here in nashville says i need to take it to the store i bought it from all the way in topeka kansas. obvious bullshit so i take it to the 4 other fucking stores within an hour drive and they all say this. Say fuck it and get a $50 rural king battery and when the family comes i just give them the battery, he warranties it and sure enough a year later the new battery is junk. And this battery was like $230. Ordered a DY1077 from autozone and they're going to have it when they open tomorrow. Only place i can consistently get genuine motorcraft parts overnighted. No questions no bitching no year make and model just ok done $140 please see you in the morning.
Did I just buy a dead signal light flasher relay?On the old relay>left flashers work as normal>right flashers just stay on, don't flash/blink>buy new flasher>now there's no flashing on any of them>test with multi-meter, old flasher clicks and gives some sort of reading>new flasher doesn't do anything, no noise or anythingIt has the same 2 pins as the original. Maybe it's just fucked?Old>Wagner 323 DOTNew>Novita LL551 12v
>>28084186Probably solid state
>>28084186Looking at those two you provided, the Wagner is a 3 lamp, the Novita is a 6. If the load on the flasher isn't matched, they don't work right, sometimes not at all.
>>28084199Ah I was wondering about some of the differences of the other flashers at the store. I don't think that's the issue here, but I'll keep that in mind.>>28084264Yeah That's probably it. I think I improperly assumed more=better.I don't really understand what "# lamp" is about. There are four flashers, 1 on each corner of the car, does the "lamp count" refer to something else?
>>28084273It's designed to work with that load. On a standard car, you have 3 lamps per side, a front, a rear, and a dashboard. With that load of three bulbs applied to it, it should flash at its normal rate. IIRC, if the car has hazard flashers, there's a separate relay for that.
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>>28084339If one of my bulbs are out my turn signal just turns "on", doesn't flash.
>>28085033since when did chrysler start sponsoring chevy?
>>28085073What Chevy?
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>>28085078that's a 55 chevy with chrysler written all over it
>>28085350You need your eyes checked.
>>28085350In what way does this look like a chevy?
>>28085364Nice 54 Ford custom
>>28085364That's obviously a Chevy>>28085402See >>28085360 fords look completely different
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having an iron duke problem, the accessory belt is bouncibg and slapping/clicking loudly. is it just a worn out spring? can i run it for a while? i have to drive 800 miles tomorrow
>>28086393the idler is bouncing i mean
>>28086393What accessories are being driven by the belt?
How are Reatta's?
>>28086721not classics
>>28086721garbage pre-series 1 3800. oil pump issues, more spun bearings than a chrysler 3.8, the later ones that did get coil packs the ignition system sucks and burns up, only fix is to swap to a series 1 ignition setup, still has oil pump issues, 440t4 sucks, 4l60 memes on steriods. no one gives a fuck about the crt, obscure fwd e body that 2 other people in the entire world give a fuck about, no you cant daily it yes you will look poor, we will also call you poor go buy a mirage
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>>28086721Damn this is some Fallout-looking business.
>>28086873>touch screens could've been un-user friendly and gave you a sense that you were sophisticated>now any fat coke slurping beaner can navigate to their spotify on it
>>280868771985:>touchscreen provides useful exclusive information>market failure2025:>touchscreen actively interferes with fit and use of vehicle>ubiquitous application america; land of the free, home of the brave
>>28086889rife with NIGGERDOM
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I didn't end up having to pull the dash or the HVAC box at all on my Newport. Did a couple of minor repairs. New blower motor, new control head switch (yes, they make new ones by some stroke of luck), lubed the linkages. Tested the system and everything works, even the thermostatic heater control valve that acts as the temperature blender. The defrost door is a little iffy but it works well enough. So happy I didn't have to pull the dash or box, fuck those are a nightmare. So now I can put the small dash pieces and vents back together and get the glass guy to come put the windshields in it.After that, doors and rest of the trim. Few minor things after that. Finally making some good progress, it's just been a mountain of shit to go through.
>>28087096Nice progress on that 68. Does the AC still work?
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>>28087190Thanks. It does work, not currently charged. I rebuilt the compressor and then the scaffolding fell on it and started this whole ordeal. It did work last time it was charged, the compressor was just noisy.
>>28086873dunno why but im just imagining pressing the buttons on the screen's frame and it making the sounds from battlefield 3 when you use different functions in the tanks
all this 50s car talk has me thinking about the buick again, you think after 30 years of being rained in i could just disassemble the tranny, clean it up, and assemble it without finding major problems?po came with the extensive dealership history on the van. they put a new distributor in as 'part of a tune up' and then he started having problems... 30 year old tape is still on the spout... hmmmm...
Options for attaching the chrome surround trim around the windshield? Most of the factory clips broke but I still have some. Was told the aftermarket clips suck and won't hold the trim. I'm thinking of using double stick tape or a couple dabs of sealant to adhere the trim to the rubber windshield rubber.Really don't want to go back with the clips. They're a rust hazard because of the screw holes and they hold the trim so tightly it's difficult to get it off without destroying the trim. There has to be a better way to hold the trim 60 years later.
>>28087786you can put tire bead sealant over the screws, it dries pretty fast and you can scrape it off if need be
>>28087796I don't plan on driving this car in the rain, the rust is the least of my concerns. I just want something that's easier to install/remove and more reliable. I only have some of the OEM clips and the aftermarket ones are bad (or so I'm told).
>>28087877Who is your source for aftermarket? Jim's auto has been selling windshield kits for years. It's Dodge/Plymouth but they might have some suggestions for a replacement.
Is there a car that has this front, but not that stupid dip at the back?
>>28087920AC Cobra
>>28087920exp / ln7 / tr6 / mg / fa rx7 / 124 /
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>>28087914These, from 521 Restorations. My windshield guy told me they all suck from every aftermarket supplier. That's just one man's opinion though, so if someone has a reliable part they've used personally, maybe I could try that.https://521restorations.com/c-body/fasteners/window-trim-clips/
>>28088297Thanks, but isn't all that stuff A and B body? My Newport is C body.
>>28088300Yeah, but there should be some interchange. My bet would be they probably source them from the same factory in China anyway.
>>28088297>>28088300>>28088307Find OEM part #s and search ebay for NOS?
I own a 1987 and NOTHING can stop me from posting here
>>28088442I own a 1991 and it's allowed because it uses the exact same body, frame, engine, and interior as the 1979
>>28088500Then an 87 American truck counts too, based
>>28088442>>28088500>>28088523FUCK NIGGERS
>>28088523Yeah but literally unchanged at all? I guess the bricknose and bullnose use the same cab and frame. Or if your a chevy truck fag you don't belong because chevy always made shitty low quality gaudy faggot trucks. Same with dodge
>>28088529based as fuck.
>>28088529they're plenty different despite how similar they look. entire bodies can be interchanged, but aero frame has a different frame horn, it can be worked around. my 96 has the holes on the frame for a Z bar, but the Z bar clutch pedal pedal assembly wont work with the 96 brake booster. i was told bullnose doors wont fit an aero but i used a set to convert to manual windows on another truck and they fit fine, the door panels wont interchange though.
>>28088529Yeah it's a Dodge. Quiver in your jap shitbox at the American square body
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>>28088561Wrong
Think bout MKV's again..
There does need to be an "80's/90's shit box general". They are old, but not classics.
>>28088307Yeah. Aside from the clips, any alternative ideas? Best I can think of is double sided tape or dabs of sealant. I really do not like the design of the clips.>>28088360Good idea, don't know why I didn't think of that. I had to do that for my blower motor. Thank you.
>drive buy it every 2-3 daysKeep trying doofus lol.Don't get the idea here, I'm going to buy a barn find and park it on my trailer for a year because I'm a turbojew.
>>28088612Lol. That cars worth 2500 tops if it runs and drives and doesn't have a fucked transmission
>>28088610>35 year old isnt classicDumb
>>28088618Any car made after 1971 isn't a classic
>>28088622Based on what criteria exactly? The definition is 25 years old (or older)
>>28088614I'll give him $1500 if he tows it to my place.Don't have interest in trying that though, don't need schizo boomers taking shots at me on my favorite road to speed on. Already thought I would have to return fire when the drunk schizo Nova guy had a sperg out for parking like 100 yards from his house to look at some junk getting tossed on the side of the road early this year.Here's another. Guy basically has a junkyard in his yard of like 30 cars that have never moved in 10 years.
>>28088626Gay ass smog laws. 70s cars are crap. 80s cars are crap. No car with an ECU can be a classic
If it got more than 6 volts it ain't classic.
>>28088636Trucks skirted those laws tho
>>28088639Trucks cannot be classics
>>28088638If it doesn't have a crank on the front it's not a classic
>>28088641Ha, gay.
>>28088626That "definition" was made 40 years ago, when the govt figured it needed a special destination for older car hobbyists. Mid 70's to early 90's is malaise era crap. There are a few gems, but most of it is just bad.
>>28088647Well the classic car club of America would argue the cut off is 1948 so we can use "source - my ass" or we can use a definition
>>28088701A rolling chassis for a dollar? Not bad desu
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>>28088701Most reasonably priced 64-71 muscle car listing on facebook.
dammit rockauto don't do me dirty like this. trying to get an 11 inch ID round air filter and it's all from the same warehouse with all my other shit but then dhl shipping to aus jumps up to 60 goddamn dollars. taking out just the filter alone drops it back down to 30 reeeee
>>28088611>Good idea,Yeah I've been doing that for my Ford wagon build. Sometimes shit is expensive, but you can't get repros on a lot of stuff.
>>28088643If it isn't horse drawn, it's not a classic.
>>28088672last year the sbc was in a car was 1996, absolutely nothing after 1996 will ever be a "classic"
holy shit boys the deal of a lifetime right here
>>28089208ironic being as the 350 is the most lame powertrain swap for classics.
>>28089643it's a big time faggot swap for sure. LS is next on the list of big time faggots
65 And the end of "Letter Cars"
While we're on the topic of SBC>maybe i'll get a set of Vortec heads for my old truck>read about it>need special intake >lose driveability because no exhaust crossover>distributor needs to be customizedWhy do chevy guys parrot the line "just throw vortec heads on it"?i guess it might work on a car that you only take out once in a while
>>28089939best one you've posted imo
>>28090000because chevy "guys" are faggots
The Ztard finally gave up and bought a transmission for his Camaro. The transmission happened to be in a complete running driving l98 car. He drove the fucking car home, and this is what it looked like 18 hours later. Just to reiterate, this dude bought a $2000 running driving car to gut for his $1000 rusty ass roller. Why is the axle out? I don't fucking know. I'll see if I can get it from him for a couple hundred, he said he was going to scrap the rest.>>28090000I thought I stumbled onto something making a carb adapter upper for the vortec manifold, but it's an sbc so used aftermarket heads are already half the price of anything else, just get a set of 190s off marketplace and forget they exist
>>28089684what is a good classic engine swap?I've seen s10 t5 adapter kits for ford flathead v8s and I had eyes on this 55 belvedere that has presumably a dead flat 6 in it and an automatic, I thinkneat car but if I opened it up and the motors fucking runt what then?
>>28090112I think they made the flathead 6 into the mid 60s with power levels competitive with the early slant, surely no one gives a fuck about them and you could snatch one up cheap
>>28090112If you have a '55 Plymouth, you stick a 331 Hemi with a cast iron Torqueflite behind it and call it a day. Anything else is faggots.>>28090128You will never get a flat 6 anywhere close to a slant throwing equal amounts of money at both platforms. A built leaning tower of power would be a neat combo in a 55 Belvy too.
>>28090237125hp vs 145hp, made the same torque, building either six would be a waste of time. for <$500 why not
>>28090112slant 6 swap would be kino. Also, the t-5 into flathead is also a good upgrade for the trash stock trannys that don't hold more than 175ish ft/lb trorque.
>>28090237If my flatty ends up being cracked into the no-go zone, I will be swapping a 390 FE Ford or a 331 DeSoto Hemi in.
The 1970 300 H(urst), a collaboration between Chrysler and Hurst Performance
>>28090112The best engine swap is the Flathead V8https://www.autoevolution.com/news/ford-flathead-swapped-1978-corvette-c3-rejects-modernity-and-returns-to-monkey-224024.html#
>>28090937flathead fords are junk, they dont even make as much power as the 6 he's junking
>>28091054swap in a flathead caddillac v8
>>28091054Yeah nah, that Flathead is way better and way more reliable. Probably puts most modern engines to shame power wise, too. Based Corvette chad.
>>28091066no you're right, he should swap 2 engines of the same technology level and displacement to get roughly the same result with way more work for the sake of being a special snowflake
>>28091071You're damn skippy :)
>>28091054divide curb weight in lbs by 25. thats all the horsepower you actually need for any given car. more than that is unnecessary
>11k eurobucks For a boomer special it doesnt seem too overpriced. Its rough around the edges but i can live with it.
>>28089684Damn and here I was spitballing an LS swap for this Javelin
>>28090112Just rebuild the factory engine?
>>28091492Your buddy finally capitulated?
>>28091587Oh he’s always wanted to sell me the jav that was never the issue, the deal was originally we were gonna trade my Camaro for his javelin plus like a couple grand startup money so I could get rolling on the javelin project. Then he said he couldn’t take the Camaro after all but he still was willing to sell me the javelin. That left me with a couple options -sell Camaro to someone else and buy javelin and get to work on it -get javelin, cut Camaro, swap in what I can, sell what I can’t, and scrap whatever’s left -just not get the javelin and get a early 70s gm roller for the Ezpz swap for *most* of my Camaro shit, light fa work and clearancing to get the interior bits and stuff in, and then just scrap the carcass.But today I was in a drive thru with the wife sitting behind a c7 z06 and got to considering option 4 -buy javelin, sell Camaro, get an LS and modern transmission and just make it work My biggest deterrent to getting the javelin is just nonexistance of simple replacement parts. Like you can’t even get shit to do a basic brake job without hunting for NOS or doing a swap to a different setup. Same with the lost key and ignition tumbler I’d probably just get a generic 5 pin ignition switch from jegs and rewire and u still under dash on a bracket somewhere.
>>28091480Nice. Way better looking than the Chevrogay counterpart, like always.
>>28090237one retard condition is that I want a floorshift with atleast 4 or 5 gears.>>28091513because we're talking 500-1,000 dollar bush cars not creampuffs and there's a good chance that that if there is a motor there it's had rain in it and ruined it if it's not fucked as is.
What was the top model for a full size imperial in the late 50's to early 60's?
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>>28092297Lebaron, I believe.
>>28092360wtf
In 79, the malaise era took over.
>>28092260It's easier to unfuck a water damaged flathead than a OHV engine.
>>28092404coomworthy, innit?
>>28092597i mean its a hypothetical, it could be fucked for any reason or none at all
>>28092572The malaise era cars look sweet idgaf what anybody says.
Say what you want about the malaise era, but there's no denying the trucks were top notch
>>28094661Official Slampiggy Industrial
>>28092999They represent the American government inserting its very large hairy smelly cock into the day to day life of motoring Americans. If you gut smog and economy shit out of the drivetrain, and make the retarded looking crash bumpers a little less retarded looking, they're not too bad.
>>28094823bang on assessment
>>28094823I imagine what happened if they didn't, the rest of the world didn't innovate much, jdm cars just applied the available technology best, cars didn't look like shit. The same 2bbl Ford 302 that infamously made 139hp or whatever made 188hp in emissions free boat trim, when fuel injection dropped it made about the same power. I doubt engines would have continued to get bigger, would we have just sat on our hands? More performance trims in the ugly ass body styles seems most likely.
I'm Charging Malaise
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>>28096871Fuck, wrong pic.
>>28087920>>28087920Weird, I have this car, and I like the hips and the low rear end, and I cannot get myself to like the front...Have a look at alfa spider, 240-260-280Z, and old TVR
How do I weld this hole without the final thing looking like I coomed all over the fucking thing.Yes I know nothing about welding or what I am doing truth be told.Most of the time I've just cut a piece of sheet to stick over the hole and welded it up on my shitboxes and beaters, not really giving a fuck about how it will look, but this one I want to look nice.Cut a piece of sheet that fits perfectly in the hole and tack weld it in place with low power?
>>28097581>low powerProbably 3/4 power and slowish wire speed. What is it?
>>28097581>>28097597Also, get as clean of metal as you can get on the old piece so you won't have splatter and shitty looking welds. Looks like you will also need to cut the entire rocker. Is this the Russian car?
>>28097597>>28097600Yeah I'll cut the whole rocker panel open and clean up the pinch weld too.It's the passenger side rocker panel on my 1977 GAZ-24 Volga.Someone at one point used the rocker panel and pinch welds as jacking points, despite there being clear fucking jacking points sticking from underneath the car, causing them to collapse in on themselves and rust through.
I went and measured my th350 I picked up a couple months back, it's a 9" tail. Car will have the 305 from the black car put in it and probably regear to 3.08 or something better for hooning. Car doesn't have carpet I was thinking cutting donor carpet around where I patch the floor with license plates so you can see the plates. 305 is a tbi peanut cam and needs rebuilt. Tbi roller cam and vortec heads? Ztard already wallered out holes in the intake trying to re use it on his l98, I'm ok with ruining it the rest of the way.
I found a brass cam bearing driver set that fits Windsors for $120. This was needlessly a tens of hours long venture since search engines will no longer omit results on command. Fuck Google, fuck eBay, fuck Amazon, fuck summit racing, fuck jegs, fuck AliExpress, and fuck everyone who makes """universal""" expanding rubber drivers.Now, after a entire fucking month, I can continue assembling my 302.
>>28087023>Those finsFuck me
>>28097872Yes, imagine Javontavius Smith riding his stolen dirt bike down the street. He hits a pothole with bike at 12 o'clock and heads for the row of parked cars, but instead of bouncing off of a soft plastic modern safety bumper, he hits the rear fender of a '61 Chrysler...
It's coming together. HVAC work is finished, minus charging it up. Interior is all back together minus the doors and the rear seat.It's glass time now, I think. My dealership windshield guy quoted me $450 install the front and rear glass back in it. It's the rubber seal type. Debating if I should try it myself, but this glass is pretty hard to find and they don't even make rear glass for this car.I also was debating changing the wheels right now, instead of waiting to take it to work, but I really want to those pretty chrome dish hub caps back on it.
Took firebird out to Little T canyon road. Had a good few initial runs quickly found that the shocks are the weak link in my setup. After the first run they started getting hot and after the second run they were totally toast and felt like they weren't doing shit. Going to get some Bilstein B6 shocks in there and see what that will do. Hopefully that will keep firebird's front end under control. The brakes proved to be pretty effective on the first run but the rear drums got hot and started locking up very easily so it made pushing it very sketchy. I might have to bump up my plans to get a Corvette brake kit for front and rear
>>28099020I feel like it's been forever since I've chatted with you. Glad to see you and the bird are still around. No paint yet? Bilsteins are good. Put them on my Corvette over 10 years ago and I've been satisfied with themm
>>28099077Likewise, I see your posts with the Newport every so often and it reminds me that I still need to do something with the challenger. I'm trying to remember what I last remembered you posting about it but I think it had to do with some shoddy body work. Also yes, still no paint on firebird. I haven't had an opportunity or the space. I was able to get a chance to totally rewire the car though
>>28092297See >>28092373The LeBaron was the top of the Imperial line; better than the Crown.
>>28099093The body work wasn't perfect like they promised, it turned into a shit show, but it is good enough. The car isn't going to be perfect. I'm putting all the old trim and bumpers back on it. It's not a full resto job.What did you do with the wiring and what's the state of the challenger?>>28099104You don't have any trim that would fit the back of my car do you? These two pieces got lost. I found the other pieces I texted you about but these are missing.
>>28099115Unfortunately not. Nearly everything I have that's spare is for an Imperial.
>>28099020I wouldn't spend a lot of money on the brakes -simply swapping from drums to discs should eliminate the fade.
>>28098976>My dealership windshield guy quoted me $450 install the front and rear glass back in it.That;s cheap if it involves chrome surround trim. That shit is a bitch to keep in the rubber groove while installing the glass.
>>28099115>You don't have any trim that would fit the back of my car do you? These two pieces got lost. I found the other pieces I texted you about but these are missing.check ebay
>>28099115I must have misremembered the details on the paint and body work. I remembered there being drama about it but it looks like it'll be very pretty when it's all doneAs for the wiring, I stripped everything out and redid everything I was tired of the wires hanging out from under my dash so everything was loomed and wrapped in the fancy German fuzzy electrical tape and the exterior harness was wrapped up in the German cloth electrical tape. Came out very well. Everything works flawlessly and looks so clean. The challenger I've just been too busy to do anything to. It still needs some new panels welded in but with winter coming and hopefully the shitbox fleet staying in working order I should be able to finish the last of the body work and hopefully get some primer on this bitch at least and hopefully spray some paint to see how it looks. I'm tired of seeing the thing just take up space
What mysteries lay behind this panel? Why does it not easily come off?
>>28100272The jew bunker is back there. Of course it's hard to get to.
>>28100276I see, I bet it's the jew that causes the quadrajet bog and GM HEI Ignition failures.
>>28100283>quadrajetall over my table>HEI Ignition failurean extremely rare event, especially compared to ford and chrysler
>>28100545forgot pic of course
>>28100548Very cool. Don't get a headache from the fumes.
>>28099520Well it took way longer than it should have and was worse quality than promised but in the end after I got over it, it's pretty alright. I did have to take to another guy to buff it out as well. I drove it there with no glass in it whatsoever, no bumpers, or lights (except the tails). I had to wear my motorcycle helmet for the drive lmao. Some guy on an old Suzuki sport bike pulled up next to me on the highway and had the biggest grin on his face when he saw the car and my helmet. Lol.So there wasn't actually any wiring issues? That's nice. It feels good to wrap up a nest of wires. It looks like Vietnam behind the dash of Newport. Lol. Whenever I have to pull the cluster out, I'll re-wrap everything. Can't really get to it like it is.Did you ever get the engine fixed on the challenger.>>28100283I put a Davis Unified Ignition HEI in my Newport because I couldn't get a replacement pertronix sensor for my factory distributor. They are supposed to be good, hopefully. The MSD internal modules are known for blowing out.
>>28100735Oh, so the Newport is running and driving. That's fucking sweet. If you get the chance wrapping up all the wires makes everything seem so clean and makes additional accessories in the future easier to add. As for the challenger engine. It's still sitting on the stand. I can't bench test the engine since the flywheel in on the torque converter. Looks like the car will be manual swapped then temporarily have the 340 mounted in and have everything ready for the hellcat to drop in when the money comes in. In the meantime I can hopefully have the challenger be a comfortable car on par with firebird atleast interior wide
ztard took one look at the tpi setup once it was apart, said it was too complicated, and gave it to me, so ive been researching it, and lol truck intake memes asside, i think i should actually put the shit on a truck holdner had a built 383 with some fuckhuge 294h cam and afr heads running the stock TPI (top blue), and a 408 LS (bottom) with lq9(?) heads with a stock cam (blue) and 224 cam (red)383 isnt even 408ci, and the LQ9 heads are certainly outflowing a 190cc AFR, but none of the LS intakes have runner length like the TPI does, would you think a mildly massaged 408SBC could make even more torque with a stockish RV cam than an LS in the same scenario?
>>28101586Considering those graphs have different graphics, those results are highly suspect.We're they done on different dynos?
>>28101897Holdner said the 383 dyno was old which is why he couldn't overlay it with his other TPI tests, it could be a different version of software. I wanted to speculate that the tpi always makes earlier power and torque even when the runner volume and cam changes, the LS wants to rev a lot more to make the same power. The same power at lower rpm would suggest the tpi is a superior design in terms of efficiency
>>28101897All done on the Westech dyno in LA
>>28101914My boss played with a tuned port 383 in a C3 basketcase a thousand years ago and while it did make good torque it wasn't an exciting engine to drive by any measure since it was pretty much done by 4K. That was disappointing in that just when you'd expect a built engine to be taking off, it was done leaving you with the feeling of "is that it?" which is not what people pay thousands for. It's what you pay pennies for using a 305 because it was there.tl;dr don't get too wrapped up in low-end torque there's gotta be some top end power too
>>28102172I don't know if I'm going to like the car. a 383 kits the cheapest on the market and any block I pick up is going to need bored out. If I like the car I'm going to put an aluminum 5.3 and t56 behind it and throw this 383 in a box truck that currently has a worn out vortec 350. If I don't like the car then I put the engine together with mostly scraps and having a 383 should add more value to the car than it cost to add, but any way I cut it im going to have to build an engine for the car, and what it has now is a worn out peanut cam 305 wearing a l98 topend
Man working on cars is weird.I don't know how this thing is running. Listen to it.https://files.catbox.moe/bsem4v.webmBarely idles, then warms up and idles TOO fast.Choke plate doesn't kick off (probably stuck or something)Half the vacuum lines are cracked, and it still somehow starts.Stock Chevy 305 with stock quadrajet 4b.Most of the bikes I've worked on have to be done up pretty tight or they won't even start up. But with cars it seems like the tolerances are a lot looser.
>>28102187Personally, I don't see the intermediate steps adding enough value to either to make it worth your while. I'd suggest simplifying your life and putting a reman in the box truck only if you absolutely have to, and driving the Camaro with the peanut 305 long enough to determine if you like the car well enough to put more power in it and if so then go straight to the final goal of the 5.3/t56
>>28102265Well at least you can trick people into thinking it's cammedThat thing looks like it's making a smoke cloud.
>28102265It's running like that because the choke is on too hard and it's rich as hell. The fast idle is because the choke isn't coming off so it's on the fast idle cam. Got some work to do with the choke system it seems
>>28102281I think you're spot on. Hard to tell from the vid, but the smoke looks black.
>>28102265are you not setting idle speed at operating temps because some engines just act fuckin retarded for 10 minutes untill theyre warm
>>28102270the box truck is in a nice place right now where i dont need it and it can sit, but for it to be useful i'd need it to be able to tow the 18'er with a car on it, and it cant do that. i have a 6.0 LS block i picked up to turn into a 408 for this truck, until i was offered this camaro deal. The 305 isnt in the car and isnt in a condition where i'd put it back in the car without a rebuild, the rear main pisses and it was burning a tablespoon of oil every time you stepped on the gas. I would not be financially burdened by putting a 383 on the stand instead of a 305, im purely curious as to how flexible it would be to do so. I'm no used car salesman but the inbreds that buy these cars lose their erection when they hear 305. You sure it wouldnt add $2000 to the price tag to put a cast crank kit in a 350?
>rebuild carb>install carb>hook up all the lines and linkages>crank>crank>crank>no fuel at carbfuck. it was running before. fuel is just barely spitting out at the mechanical pump's outlet, but doesn't have the pressure to reach the carb. guess i'm replacing all the old soft lines tomorrow
>>28102335Haven't touched the idle speed/fuel mixture screws since I got it. I'm worried I'll make it worse, but will dive in this weekend.PO wired the choke so it couldn't move at all. Obviously a hillbilly solution to a problem he couldn't figure out.Hopefully I can get it sorted.
>>28102372I did this same thing this spring. It was out of gas (tank leak). Check simple stuff first.
>>28102491i put 4 gallons in it on top of the 4 stale gallons right beforehand.
>>28102496So did I. Tank drain plug seal was leaking. Pissed 5 gallons of $10 a gallon race gas all over the floor.
>>28102504crazy. i've never owned a tank with a drain plug.
>>28102512I was thanking my lucky stars it was, I thought I was going to have to put a new tank in it.
>>28102515this truck is the antithesis to my other classic which essentially only has boutique parts.i'm spending as little money on it as possible. I was watching under the tank as i was filling it, and when it didn't even stutter after the first 30s of cranking i was inspecting the ground underneath and smelling the dipstick. (it smelled slightly of gas, sus)
>>28102522Might want to try blowing air back through the line to the tank to see if you have a blockage. I rigged up a 1 gallon can directly to the pump so I could move it around at least. If you can fill the float bowls through a vent or something, it should run for a minute or so on just what's in the carb.
What is the car from The 1980's that would give me the image of a Canadian name that hates the United States, hates big cars, hates American design, and wants an anti-USA cars in every way?
>>28102522>>28102540Also, unfortunately if it's an older mechanical pump and your gas has ethanol, it might have killed the pump diaphragm.
>>28102542>image of a Canadian nameCan anybody translate this?
>>28102543not sure of the pump's age, but it was obviously replaced at some point. it is clean and free of grease, in stark contrast to the rest of the engine.>>28102542>>28102549turns out the guy that posts this all the time is a Canadian pajeet this whole time kek
>>28102549Sorry, I meant Canadian man.
>>28102551Oh. Schwinn bicycle probably.
>>28083184TRVE SOVLRolls Royce Phantom
anyone here ever try the thompson powerblast plate? lots of people say it improves throttle response
>>28102540Got to be careful filling through the vents. Overfill the bowl and you won't get differential at the venturi and you may have trouble starting. At least on Holleys.
>>28102550>turns out the guy that posts this all the time is a Canadian pajeet this whole time kekkek, it makes sooo much sense now
>>28102719https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAwjeCbfSzcOne of the most boomer videos I have ever seen, kek
>>28102801lmao, just needs bad to the bone. while i was looking up more info about it, it seems like someone actually did dyno it.https://www.prestigemoto.com/hardcore-tech/blog/the-money-shot-does-powerblast-plate-really-work.htmlseems like it really does improve throttle response simply due to better atomization of the fuel. dyno claims no increase in torque or hp gain but that could be due to the fact that it's just an engine dyno, and not one in a car etc.
>>28102846>dyno claims no increase in torque or hp gain ...And it won't because that's not how it works. This thing only affects the discharge pattern of the accelerator pump shot, which is only occurring when the throttle is moved. I can see it possibly being a detriment to WOT power since the piece could affect flow and distribution through the venturis by causing a disturbance.Oh, and buy an ad Thompson Performance
>>28103012yeah that's what i figured, improving throttle response and not much more. found out about it on the boomer mopar forums, the progression from snake oil paranoia to "yeah feels great on butt dyno" was funny
Boom. It took five minutes tops. Opened up a brand new plastigauge and there's no plastic to gauge. You'd think no one is this country even wants you to work. Went to a tag sale that had a Deere 310e this morning in Glasgow and it was the most ragged out piece of shit you'd ever seen, needed all new piston seals and lines, the RESERVE was 12500. The dudes dead who's rolling this pile home when it doesn't sell? I'll keep my happy customers the competition is obviously retarded.
>>28104352insane retard rambling
>>28104352Your gauging the crank bearings? If so I have a pro tip that might work for you.
>>28104381Yeah except the paper doesn't have the plastic inside of it. It's pretty useless right now.
>>28104396You need a piece of newsprint. It has to be the thin flimsy stuff they print newspapers on. cut a piece about 1/8" x however wide the bearing is. Oil it and put the bearing cap on, full torque. If the crank locks up with 35-40 ft/lbs on the crank snout, its good. Built a couple of mopar engines with my old man and used this method, never had an issue with the bottom ends.
>>28104403I'll look into it, thanks
I wonder how many personal luxury cars got scrapped because of fucking vinyl tops.Everything else about them is perfect, but the fucking top ruins it.
>>28104832I like the look of vinyl tops, but I hate how they rust. That's the worst problem on my '78 Lincoln. It also destroyed a 2000 Town Car I had. Bedliner replacements are the way to go
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>>28104832You're absolutely right about that. I was lucky enough to find one without one from the factory. In their hey day landau tips made you look cool. Unfortunately they trapped in all that moisture once it started checking on the top and once that happened just made swiss cheese out of the C pillar. It's a sad sight to see a clean example with scaling and rust bleed around the bottom of the vinyl top. Get one without it, remove it once it goes bad, or be prepared to fab together a new roof.
>>28104860It's a ticking time bomb once the almighty sun does it's damage. I saw an 83 just like this one in person that had 26,000 original miles about a year ago. Dark red white top. Looked like it was at a dealership. Cool to see but that's only because it was sitting out in the elements all that time.
>>28104926(Out OF the elements)
>>28104920I want a Monte, but with rust, then the vinyl tops, I'm fucked. Like a year ago there was a nice one, sans the entire god damn roof. I'd like a Mark V, but the are all derelict or closer to 7-8k than not, nothing in between, wish I could find one for like 4 since the are majestic whales but I'd have to immediate tear the top off to try and preserve it, but it'd look niggardly after.
>>28104929Aaah I know you're struggle. I too have a malaise obsession but let me tell you from experience, the best way to go is the very late 70s and early 80s downsized GM personal luxury cars. You are on a good start with Facebook marketplace, that's where I found my 79 Toronado (pic related). I think something you should look for is a 79 Monte depending on your budget. Just my opinion. Keep looking and you will find your baby. I saw that 79 Toronado and was so glad I didn't go with that clapped out 69 Caprice I was looking at prior.
>>28104929Just my advice. I owned a 78 Pinto because I really wanted one. Rear wheel drive by the way sucks compared to fwd in these cars because the transmission hump takes up all your foot well room. To be honest that 72 looks a bit overpriced. Another thing I experienced when I went too far back in time because I'm nostalgic was worn rear main seals that require the engine to come out of the car to replace. Again, just giving you some tips based on my high and low points in the hobby of appreciating 70s American cars. Keep. Looking. I can't stress that enough. Here's the 79 model of the Monte I mentioned earlier. Easy to find with no top.
>>28104932I'd take anything that would fall into my lap, part of the problem since I am schizophrenic and end up looking in a 45 year range of cars, trucks and suv's. But even if I do find something I get cold feet since I start thinking do I really want to spend that amount of money, time, logistics for something I'm really just looking at due to seeing something old that doesn't look rusty sub 5k. Then there is what I deep down actually want, that is still technically attainable but not really realistic to actually find, which are 1st gen Monte Carlo's, Mark V's, maybe 3rd Malibu's for the drive meme factor. But a more realistic somewhat more narrowed down genre than literally everything pre 1996 that isn't rusty are carbed cars, preferably with 2 doors. Which ends up being post 72 personal luxury cars since styling took a nose dive after the 71 model year across the board and the are emissions era pigs so they didn't get chopped up into drag cars like Novas and other 2 door rwd economy cars the could fit a V8 in did. I still like them though, big cars with 2 doors have a certain grace about them.2nd and 3rd gen Montes aren't what I would call traditionally attractive, I'd still buy one if things were favorable but it's a shame to the name plate compared to the early ones. Also doesn't help that I want something that isn't a derelict rust bucket, but not some pristine survivor that commands the money. Odds of finding a rust free car that is also in bad enough visual There is a 78-79 Lebaron a few miles away that's had a sign on it for like 6 months, last time I check it was like $4k, it's fairly clean but a bit high for something not ideal, might get the number off it and see if it's come down since at 3 I'd probably do it if it looks good under it.I wouldn't have actually bought that Monte, I just found it funny that the rest of it was nice but the roof managed to look like it was stored upside down on a saltwater beach for 30 years.
>>28104957Also getting tempted by Z31's, some of the rough ones are low enough to be tempting. Also a decent one for like $3500, targa but it's a manual. If it's rust free might be worth thinking about, hell and gone from here though. Then again hard to believe a 80's Japanese car is rust free around here.
>>28104957I would avoid Ford and Chryslers of that era. They were particularly known for being poor quality in comparison with GM. Remember if it's too cheap good chance it going to be a lemon if it's from the mid 70s or older. Stay realistic and think about your budget. Don't do anything rash and buy a car that looks good on the outside but has an interior with non functional, missing gauges, a floor full of rust if you lift the carpet up, big oil leaks, etc. Have the seller show pictures of the floors, look at the thing in person once you find the right one. All original paint is a plus. For this class of vehicle it is important to have a sense of creature comfort and reliability to get true satisfaction out of it. Not to mention something this old will most likely need about 2000$ in tune ups and repairs once you do get it. Save your money and when you have a big enough nest egg find a sweet ride that will get you what you pay for and something you really like. Don't jump right in and end up with a lemon like I did two years ago. Very upsetting unpleasant ordeal.
>>28104965Love Z31
>>28104920gm just bondo'd over the seams on no vinyl top cars, no trim, no different glass, the one i took a vinyl top off of looks fuck ugly and its not because its rusty
IS THIS IMAGE REAL OR FAKE?? (99% GET IT WRONG!)
>>28105119Not only is it fake, it's gay.
>>28105119is there something notable about this picture?
Finally got around to replacing the dampers on the V8 Pilot, but fuck they put up a good fight. The drop links were nearly seized to the arms, and the only ball joint popper we had was too small, so I had to order one off of Amazon. Still, done now, and hopefully that has solved the knocking noise on the front end.
>>28105426It's that stupid guy who plays stupid all the time holding a multimeter. I'm impressed he owns one.
>>28105564Hmmm. I've seen him use a multi meter a few times. You seem upset. Have you tried not watching his videos?
>>28105655>You seem upset.
>>28104929I'd sell my '78 DJE Mark V for $3,500; runs, drives, new brakes, is solid, but needs tires.
>>28105119I hate him. The fake, made-up names for things are like nails on a chalkboard and the stupid show builds, EFI shilling, TV show, and featured at events like Duct Tape Drags; though, at least he's not Hoovie. Hoovie needs to die of sodomy-induced GRIDS.
fuel-delivery-problem anon herei guess when i filled the tank, it added enough suction to the line to find a crack in the brittle old soft line from the pickup. i had to pull the bed to get to it, was quite a bit of work.the carb i rebuilt ran smooth with no tuning (yet), and it was nice to have an accelerator pump.>>28105822man, i've watched a few of his revivals and they're a bit cringe but they're still fun to me. Why do you people watch videos you don't enjoy? wtf
>>28105812the only car i remember him doing that i liked was this 6 cylinder 4 door 70s-something that he put boom tubes onI cant remember which episode.but yeah, he is fuckin annoying with his red green jargon but canadians are naturally annoying.
>>28105655Being upset is a part of life, have you tried being not alive?
>>28105953You imply that I still watch him; I don't. I do see other things that he's featured in coming up, though, or guest appearances. Like I said; I saw an ad for Duct Tape Drags and it advertised him. I also have this thing called friends. One of them shared a video of him with an '81 Imperial. I thank them politely and ignore it because I'm not a sociopath.
>>28105953I can enjoy his content until he starts acting like a retard, like the multiple times he's ignored a bad coil and acts baffled when the car dies 10 miles down the road, or basically any time he's not doing a revival and acts like he built the 500hp crate motor he's putting in. The only thing that I cannot stand and will not watch are dashcam compilations hearing women scream and gasp and Jesus take the wheel every single fucking time, I rage enough at the fucking retards on the road, I don't need a highlights reel.
>>28105822Sound super jealous their fagula, probably because your episode bombed and you got relegated to janetty status
everyone here always spending money, this dude making money
>>28106352>janettyoh no, not this guy again
>>28106861Thanks, but I already have a good manifold meatloaf recipe.
>go to jy>new mustang on the lot>motorcraft replacement sensors>walk out with $500 of sensors for $45>put fps on mustang>works >put dpfe on van>take van home watching data feed>14.3v 28% duty cycle >alternator takes a shit exactly half way home>abandon it at a gas station and start walking because it's already midnight >go to bed at 3:30 am>wake up and blow $200 on an alternator>tow the tow dolly to the gas station>tow s10 home with the van >Everyone is just now waking up for massFord. What's not to like.
>>28107094Why would you need sensors to run a vehicle?You should use a tripcode
>>28106861>cooking up $20kShit bust out the Pyrex
>>28107158It's s10fag, mate.
>>28107158>complains about fords>shitty rape van collection >s10 you must be new here
>>28107367>complains about hawaii>does the samba>wiggles like a churo on the deck of a boatyou must have seen the light of the new age coming.
>need to warm up the engine to tune the carb>let engine idle for 5 mins>gonna drive it around the neighborhood>jump in the driver's seat, put it into reverse for the first time since i bought it>nothing happens, shut off engine>check trans dipstick>dryi guess the leak causing a small wet spot in the gravel was actually a catastrophic leak. the universe doesn't want me to drive this truck
previously i posted >>28101586 showing that intake runners really control where peak power is made and even the stock LS manifolds have really short runners, i found a somewhat similar comparison between the l98 runners and lt1 runners on a l99, i did not expect to see a 40lb-ft gain with the long runners and no other mods. Seeing how everyone and their uncle is getting their LS swap from a truck, or is just a truckbro to begin with, why arent longer runner aftermarket intakes a thing on the LS? It would appear there are substantual gains to be had
>>28108010he even dynos a dual plane on the combo and it makes even more power than the lt1 intake, not losing much peak torque but a fair bit of torque area. LT1 intake is just too short to work. Im curious what a typical dual plane would look like on an LS
Apparently in his 20s grandad owned a 65 GTO in metallic grey that he had to sell and the neighbors kid wrecked it a week after buying it.
>>28108010This is why I stuck with the truck intake. The truck cams are set up for low end torque and throwing an LS intake on it would be a bad combo
>>28108072the stock ls intakes actually perform pretty consistently, he did find a dual plane ls manifold and it makes just a smidge more torque right at the beginning, not sure what to think of thati am thinking of just ignoring the camaro's existence and doing the 408 ls swap on the box truck, then ill play around with rebuilding the vortec 350 and possibly running the l98 intake on the vortec pcm, i like datalogging and the l98 pcm is not going to give me that. it also shouldnt have PATS
>>28108086
If my math is right, the vortec intake is worse than a tbi intake, and there's ~20hp and ~40 lb-ft in putting a l98 intake on the vortec. That's more torque than an ls1. It looks hugely under rated, I aim to dyno this one day. Of course a proper carby setup is going to do better, this just tickles the homeless starving engineer squatting in my brain.
>>28108159I want cold weather driveability, so I'm keeping my smog engine intact (minus the air pump), even if I have to rebuild it.Unless there a way to keep the exhaust crossover and still gain compression and HP...
>>28108087Huh, what does it define as late truck intake because that looks like a solid 20hp gain
>>28108445Trailblazer ss intake maybe? I did not watch the entire vid.The Ford intake must be a stellar design to make the same power with e7's
>>28108172Depends on what heads are on your engine. Tpi 305 heads are going to be your best flowers with 58cc chambers. If you're rebuilding you can take your pick of stock cams that are all about the same, lt1 is the hottest (available) and vortec is about the same as the stock flat tappet grinds. I'd keep the iron intake it retains heat well and will help keep your carb from icing up, better vaporization and economy. You can run a motorad 200205 thermostat since it's all iron and will help with heat. 0w30 oil is ok.
>>28108699Link to video? Seems like a cheap swap to get a better intake for the car
I found THIS for an absolute bargain and i love it,would you reccomend as a first car?i heard they're reliable and i have some cash to spare
>>28108159yooooo I am throwing some bolt ons and possibly a cam at my vortec 5.7 as we speak. please keep posting about this as I'm curious about the results
What's the coldest temp you've started a V8 with a carburetor? What was it like?
>>2810978340 degrees f. Had to give a couple extra pumps of the gas pedal and that's it.
>>28109783Probably around 15F here. And it was a pretty heavily cammed 340. Honestly I don't know where the "hard to start cold" thing comes from. If it's set up right and not worn out to shit and the battery is good, they'll start right up.
>>28109783https://youtube.com/shorts/q7COccOdunc?feature=shareThis was last year; when we got to below 30° here in Texas. Otherwise, I've daily driven carb cars nearly all my life; many years of sub-zero temperatures in Wisconsin. I'm going to park the Mercedes and go back to this car for the winter since the heater works.
>>28109936I like your carburetor carburetors
>>28109243https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXRjgJ1XPZwconfirmed the 'late truck' manifold is a tbss manifold
>>28109636im a long ass ways out from fucking with it, the tpi vortec lower is NLA, dual planes have a little less peak torque and better peak power than the tpi setup, just go with one of those im giving him scrap value for the car so running in in lemons or chumpcar is on the table, prepared examples with better brakes look like they do well there
>>28109936>Honestly I don't know where the "hard to start cold" thing comes fromFuel injection shills, especially right now with all the new wrenchlet bolt on EFI bullshit.
>>28110253On the topic of carb vs fuel injection, is it worth converting an LS to take a dizzy and carb, or am I better off just using a SBC? I couldn't really care any less about power, so want to know if there anything the LS does so much better than the SBC that it would make the extra cost of conversion worth it?
>>28110351No sense converting back, just get a SBC to begin with.
>>28110425That's kinda what I thought, but just thought I'd check. A 350 out of a C30 will probably be enough for me then.
>>28110351If you're doing LS it's cheaper to keep fuel injection. A good set of aftermarket SBC heads will be cheaper than an LS swap and deliver similar power. Don't needlessly complicate anything.
>>28110351The LS is a relatively easy to run engine that makes decent stock power, is available, comes readily-equipped with fuel injection, and can be dropped off at any mechanic for service. It's a low-effort engine swap for people who are too lazy to put the effort into making an older engine run right.
>>28110621It's not really about price, so much as engineering and design. "Is the LS architecture a significant enough improvement over the SBC it's derived from to be worth converting to carb" is pretty much my thinking. I'm not looking for raw performance gains, more looking at things like efficiency, and more importantly, longevity. Oil delivery, pump design, QOL, literally anything that may or may not make the LS a better choice to put in what will be a daily driver for potentially decades. The car doesn't have either engine currently, so I'll have to source one or the other. Most SBCs here are cheaper but need a complete rebuild and restoration, whereas most LS' require very little work but are more expensive, so either way they work out to roughly the same cost.If the difference isn't that significant, then I'd probably just rip a 350 out of something like this and fully rebuild it.
>>28110649Forgot the linkhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/375735771078
>>28110649The only thing you can't really get on an SBC is reverse flow cooling, you can do everything else; low tension rings, distributorless ignition, fuel injection, high flow heads, there's no sense in swapping just to put a carb on it. My original post was purely to humor the design of intake runners. And honestly I would say screw it with trying to improve a SBC so much, the factory parts are pennies on the dollar, I think a gasket set is $50 and it might cost $200 to rebuild one.
>>28110669>And honestly I would say screw it with trying to improve a SBC so much, the factory parts are pennies on the dollar, I think a gasket set is $50 and it might cost $200 to rebuild one.Fair.
>>28110669>reverse flow coolingWhat exactly is the advantage of this? Never heard of it until now.
>>28110250I bought a marine intake, headers, and a later ls style pcm for it. I'm eyeballing this one cam referred to as the "357", aka the SPO cam. Planning on grabbing some junkyard vortec heads and taking a gander at porting them a bit myself
>>28110351All LS engines are 6 bolt main which is fantastic for making power, they're a dirt cheap way to get fuel injection, they're just as reliable as a late model SBC with almost 70% more power and twice the fuel economy. It's just an all around great engine swap
I helped the ztard put the finishing touches on his camero and noted it made a rattle while setting timing. Just like the binding he ignored it and something in the engine broke on the test drive, the noise started to quiet down but it was running on 6 or 7 cylinders. I wasn't there when he put the motor together so I can only speculate but nothing has exited the block. Reminds me of how that 60k mile marquis dropped a valve, but this engine wasn't missing until whatever broke broke. >>28110762Cooler cylinder head temperatures let you run more compression more consistently, gm tried to adapt the SBC to it with the lt1 but a full redesign was needed to be effective.
He admitted to not gapping rings and then we found a rocker stud pulled out but I'm curious how he actually threw a rod
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>>28113097I didn't gap the ring on my dingleball overhaul and it didnt seem to matter, course I don't think they were close anyways, idk if stock replacement rings off rockauto would come gapped but that bitch been running for years
>>28113240I don't see any scuffing in the bore, the top ring is stuck in the groove, everything else has compression. I'm very curious what he fucked up. Bearing upside down would have been knocking before it warmed up. It wouldn't rattle until like 3500 and it sounded like a lifter or detonation. He didn't even beat on it, just got it up to 55 and made sure the tranny had OD and lockup, then it let loose. These are used rods and pistons, wrist pins weren't tight, other defects?
