why are modern cars less reliable than shit made in the 90s-2010s ?https://youtu.be/klyb2VrACZc
Physical enshittification. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnshittificationWhy make a great product if good sells the same? Also, by lowering standards you not only increase profits, but also ensure your customers have to spend more money on your product.
More complexity
>>28086503Modern cars are better in every objective metric tho
>>28086560>lane assist freaks the fuck out and equinoxes you into a tree>BEEPBEEPBEEP BEEPBEEPBEEP BEEPBEEPBEEP (you are driving with tools in the passenger seat)>bump trash can leaving for work, $5995 repair on parking sensors that you dont even use, but are apparently important to set limp mode.>despite 30 years of computer-aided suspension design development, handles worse than a clapped out honda accord>seats sunk into the floor so as to ruin visibility (muh safety!)>huge ABC pillars to further trash visibility>honda civic curb weigh: 3200lbs>"oh fuck they tightened emissions, quick turbo it" turbo engine with no tooning potential, yawn-inducing power and questionable reliability>CVT transmission unless you ponied up for the hybrid option, which uses a battery that will wear out and stop holding charge, like a shitty iphone>if you do have a 6/8/10spd planetary automatic (RIP hondamatic auto-manuals), it is so aggressively retarded that even a simple slope confuses it (4->2->4->2->4->2->4 all the way up. Toyota.)look me in the eyes and tell me we're living the future they wanted for us
>>28086475>why are modern cars less reliable than shit made in the 90s-2010s--1--People spend less time maintaining their cars. The automobile turned into an appliance to these people and is not a hobby item that is fussed over and checked for problems.--2--Even in small collisions, modern cars are made to sacrifice themselves to preserve the passenger cabin from crumpling. For example, the engine tends to nosedive downwards to form a bulwark in the severe crashes where crumple zones aren't enough. --3--Maintenance costs are sky-high with the way auto shops learned to charge the consumer "ala carte" by breaking down each process into a set of items for each each item has its own charge.--4--Some dealerships operate as "stealerships" in that they simply replace parts instead of attempt to repair a problem. As a result, they are incentivized to make parts sales through their service department even if the part was repairable. As a result, the car looks less reliable to the owner who sees a failed windshield wiper assembly needing total replacment instead of the simple cheap rubber tube needing replacement due to cracking.
Fascist emissions regulations have made cars bloated and heavy
>>28086503i like that the article is just 'enshittification' instead of something more formal lol
>>28086503also reminds me of local restaurants that used to serve actually very nice food, but then the owners realised that the local boomers will pay the same amount of money for slop so they just make trash to profitmax
>>28086475reliability/durability is not a good business case. Its better to make things crappy so your customers constantly hace to get repairs. The majority of the money at a typical new car dealership comes in from the service department (look it up), followed by used car sales and then new car sales.
>>28086591>>despite 30 years of computer-aided suspension design development, handles worse than a clapped out honda accordFelt this on a visceral level, holy shit do nucars handle worse than 50 year old chebby land barges
>>28086763*handle AND ride worse
>>28086475Modern drivers don't know how to take care of their cars. I can't tell you how many retards told me engines don't need oil changes for 10-15k+ miles.
>>28086591Feel free to go back to your 90s poor mobile if that's what you want.
>>28086475>water-thin oil for fuel economy regulations>direct-injected engines that get clogged up with carbon especially with shitty/deferred oil changes>turbocharging everywhere, even where it shouldn't be (in basic econoboxes)>combination of all of these where a tiny, downsized turbo 3 or 4 cylinder is powering a car that's way too heavy for the engine, the drivers treat the accelerator as an on/off switch flooring it everywhere, oil changes and maintenance is not done, and POP goes the engine>CVTs also everywhere>mainstream econoboxes slowly becoming hybridized, adding a ton of extra electrical/computer shit and weight nobody asked for>>28086591All of these as well>bump trash can leaving for work, $5995 repair on parking sensors that you dont even use, but are apparently important to set limp mode.This is especially egregious since every other new car has an obnoxious grille that integrates with the bumper leaving no actual "bumper", combine that with parking sensors/cameras/radar that you get even on a low-spec Corolla and yeah, crunching a bumper becomes a few thousand dollars of repair rather than $60 for an unpainted bumper, $30 for a grille and $120 for a set of headlights on your average '90s car. On some nu-cars, even shit like the electronic parking brake can make the entire car inoperable if unplugged - even if it's some auto-only car that doesn't need one.
>>28086788Remember when ford declared stop n go city driving to be an [!EXTREME DRIVING CONDITION!]>keeekSuddenly nucars aren't so efficient when you have to ride the boost to accelerate at all or go up a 1 degree slope or drive through slightly denser air or a rougher road
>>28086551>murica hate complexity of euro cars>omg muh truck needs sequential turn signals or im not buying it
>>28086778If being Not Poor(tm) meant smoking Bill Gates' cock then you niggers would be on your knees gagging every night.
>>28086475They're not?? I'm not defending engines blowing up before 10k miles but that type of thing is going to happen when millions of vehicles are being shat out every year. Just because some engines blow up it doesn't mean yours will. Even the lest reliable brands out there still don't have a 100% failure rate. Statistically vehicles are more reliable than ever.
>>28086475They aren’t? As long as you don’t get a lemon and do basic shit like oil changes they are just as if not more reliable.
Back in the 90s people thought 100k miles was the end of a car's life. Now, 100k mile cars are being sold as "certified pre-owned" at $30k to $40k.
>>28086922>i mean they don't allllll break>>28086925>do basic shit like oil changesmanufacturer suggested (i.e. the dealer wont do it sooner) oil change interval is like 10k on basically everything these days. on high-stress turboshitter engines no less. even if you "change your oil on time" by their standards it'll still eat a bearing or kill the turbo before 200k.nucars are short-lived fashion statements and appliances.>>28086942maybe if you bought domestic lul. that era was when imports started breaking 200k on the regular, Million Mile Joe, 400k toyotas etc
>>28086943>manufacturer suggested (i.e. the dealer wont do it sooner) oil change interval is like 10k on basically everything these days. on high-stress turboshitter engines no less.Yep, my current direct injected nu-shitbox calls for 4000 mile oil changes *per the manual* yet the dealer does them at 10k and will not do it sooner. For a relatively 'sporty' car that I know many drive hard, that's damn near deadly.It's actually a reason many Porsche flat-6s and V8s started getting a bad rep in the '00s, on some cars they would literally call for 20k miles between oil changes which obviously led to a huge amount of failures down the line.
It's less reliable because people's focus on cars has changed over the years. You won't sell these days a car unless it has:>park assistance>4k LED TV on the painel>rear view camera>rearview mirror folding>android system>automatic transmission>autopilot>sequential turn signalsMeet these expectations and you can push down the throat any crap you want, what includes low-quality materials and bad quality engines.
>>28086815>A light unit determines the longevity of the entire vehicle
>>28086815Sequential turn signals and 70 feet of timing chain resting on plastic guides are very different things.
>>28087089Not that I disagree, but what should they be made of?
F/spbpPlanned obsolescence has ruined us.
>>28086560>Every metric>What is cost to repair>What is reliability >What is build quality
>>28086758>Majority of the money at a new car dealership comes in from the service department Not even fucking close dude. It's parts sales by a HUGE margin. That's where manufacturers get their money. Overpriced garbage parts that fail every 40k miles forcing the owner to keep buying the shitty plastic water pump/thermostat assembly for $1200. Service gets a sip of the money for installing the part
