GO FULL BONG
>>28090758blue car from Mr Bean. Also, Mr Bean's car too.
>>28090831That time Mr Bean crashed his F1, that was a fairly British car thing.
>>28090838>he actually drove his F1 and not just put it away in an air condom >crashed it but always repaired/rebuilt it and then kept drivingMonstrously based
>>28090844he does a fair bit of racing iirc, man loves his cars. i think he also got one of the best times on the top gear test track
>>28090851All respect to Rowan but a headline like that is a journos wet dream.
>>28090764https://youtu.be/ZtTCuQp1TSM?si=cC5jVHt6UbT6T_rI
>>28090758
jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
>>28090867Can I go back please? I don't like this future. Please?
Miata.
>>28090882
>>28090879hnnnnnnnngg.
>>28090875I can almost hear the soundtrack
>>28090871We had one of these, pic rel. Really nice cars, but wide as fuck.
>>28090879>posts the most American looking Aston Martin
>>28090930
These were pretty neat in the day.
>>28090922Nice, what model is it exactly?>>28090929Yes
>>28090758Blatchley's finest work
>>28090943>Nice, what model is it exactly?Mark X.
>>2809094095hp front drive hatch in 1973.
>>28090957Fuck the engine, the real hero was the suspension. They used a nitrogen filled version of the Hydrolastic suspension found in the ADO16, named Hydragas, and they ride beautifully. Completely baffled as to why it didn't see more use.
>>28090922>>28090871It looks so wide that it looks like a cheeky photoshop or a cartoon model, but I looked it up and it's still an inch narrower than even a late model Crown Vic. Is it just the proportions with the greenhouse tucked in so far from the flanks that makes it look wider?
>>28090966Indeed.It's almost like BL didn't want to be in the car business.
>>28090966https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TwOc62YXJc
>>28090975Greenhouse is tucked way in, but also the body bows outwards quite significantly, both fron front to back, but also top to bottom. It has the looks of a cake that's been squashed slightly. Really fucks with your perception.
>>28090943I just don't think that the Aston Martin that looks like 'stang screams "most British car possible"
>>28091018Owners at the time were whoring for dollars.
For me, it's the Bedford Rascal
>>28091018What could be more British than simping for the Yanks?
>>28090943>Nice, what model is it exactly?The 420G had a chrome swage strip and the MkX did not, that's how you differentiate them visually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_Trophy
>>28091050...is he groping her ass?
>>28091136Technically. That's how you make it look like she's talking.
>>28091050
>>28091018Just imagine James Bond in it. Also it looks better than the Mustang.
>>28091067Screams movie villain.
>>28091166>SHUT UP. DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! HRRMPH!
>all these old platesPlates were so much more stylish back then all over Europe.
>>28090922Did they repaint it with wallpaint and a mop?
>>28091166Me in the back
>>28091318I remember when having the wiper upright became a HUGE thing in the tuning scene of my country. Has been VERBOTEN for many years now (like most fun related to cars now)
>>28091314I think it was lucky to have even that. From what we could tell, it had a couple of rather poorly filled repairs, and the paint matching was pretty awful. It had been sat in a barn near Scotland since the 90's.
>>28091332>It had been sat in a barn near Scotland since the 90's.mmmh.... MUSTY
>>28090758Watching House of Cards made me want one of these. They're dirt cheap in Canada as well, but probably because they're too expensive to maintain.
Why do they say jag you are instead of jag war
>>28091036How fucking long have ashton martin and ford been copying each other? First ashton creates this mustang looking car and then ford creates the fusion that looks like an ashton
>>28091405Because it flows off the tongue better.
>>28090915They tried to use double deckers here in SoCal, but made them electric. And they stopped using them immediately, probably cuz they sucked
>>28091410That shape is pretty much how Aston Martins have always looked, iirc Aston Martins designer found his way to Ford and the grille became pretty much standard on all Fords after that.
>>28090838>>28090851
>>28090871Prefer the DS420, personally. Great car.
>>28090922i own the 420g facelift thing, really just a beautiful car to drive, really love it, and i think theyre much prettier than the XJ6 (id do a series 1 but im not exactly busting for one)
>>28090878Morgans are so cool.
>>28090878
>>28091761man. mr bean can drive
>>28090758Love me a Rover
>>28090758Armstrong Siddeleys are under-appreciated.
>>28090758Wish I could afford an Alvis.
>>28090758Gotta have an ADO16 in the thread.
>>28090758And a 75.
>>28090978The Landcrab is such a cool and adorable gem.
>>28090758Shame Jowett didn't last.
>>28090758Rootes Group is the UK's forgotten automotive empire.
>>28090758Everyone remembers Jensen for the FF and Interceptor, but I've always liked pic.
i really liked the Wolseley 6/90, its too bad they were all fleet cars because the bodies were really nice
>>28090758One of my favourite cars of all time. 2.5 V8 fitted into a Jag MkII, but with a nicer and more luxurious interior. Most had automatic gearboxes, but you can find some with a manual to really allow you to hear the engine sing.
luv are english roses, simple ascorrr
>>28090758Some say they're ugly, especially when compared to the E-Type, but I've always liked them.
>>28092791And, speaking of the E-Type, this thread must have one. Arguably the greatest of all British sports cars.
>>28090758Few cars are as sweet as the Austin 7. One of the first cars to really start this country motoring.
>>28090758King Charles has an Aston Martin DB6 converted to run on leftover wine. Look it up.
>>28090875oh that's gonna hurt
>>28090758It may be designed by an Italian, but I'm still posting it.
>>28090758Gotta have a Big Healey.
>>28090758Pembleton. For the man who thinks Morgans aren't autistic enough.
>>28092827Damn that's a good looking car or whatever the fuck the autistic brits are going to call them.I always kinda liked the idea behind the 3 wheeler Morgans, but also only having 3 wheels put me off.
>>28090758With a 4.3 or 4.7 Ford V8 under the bonnet, these things were beastly.
>>28090758The Princess wasn't such a bad car.
>>28090758Britain's great forgotten limousine.
>>28092803Lately i have been gaining interest in pre-war cars. It seems that the general public is spooked away from them and dont have crazy asking price.
>>28090758Good god I remember this, my grandfather had one, replaced it with a maestro. Both horrible, but better than the ford Orion he had. Motoring apocalypse
>>28090758Been watching a build of the Austin version on Retropower YouTube recently
>>28092838Tbf, from what I understand, the T24 is more or less a four wheeled version of pic lol.That being said, for me the three wheels have never been a problem. Having the single wheel at the back gives a more more stable platform than a lot of people realise.
Brits always talk about their old roadsters from the 60s, like it's a flex that they haven't made a good car ever since.
>>28092838Also, they remind me a lot of cars like pic.
>>28093067So... you never liked the XJR then, I take?
>>28092862No crash safety, an anemic engine, no ABS or power steering, suspension from a horse-drawn wagon... I love pre-war cars, but they're not for everyone lol.
>>28093089>posts an Indian car
>>28092862Because you basically get each replacement part handcrafted by someone since fuck all is available.
>>28092842Shut up Wolsley
>>28093104>'Indian car'>Made by British company>Designed in Britain by British designers>Uses JLR's own platform and engines>Built in BritainForgive me, but Indian ownership of the company as a subsidiary does not make the car itself Indian. Tata has developed a reputation for non-interference with Jaguar Land Rover, allowing JLR to retain its own identity, and its products their own unique charm and desirability.
>>28093110Yes sir. :,(
>>28092813>leftover wineThere is no such thing
how has nobody posted an SD1 yet?
>>28090874What don't you like about it, anon?
>>28093158Apparently there is for 'is Maj lol.
>>28093181I was tempted, but personally I rate it lower than the P5 and P6. A part of me wishes it was better made and had a nicer interior (more wood and leather lol). As much as I do like the SD1, I think it was the first major sign of something going mouldy in Rover.
>>28093334the car mags loved it, too bad like you say it was built by lazy bastards.
>>28093173Gilbern? Interesting choice. I'll match you a Gordon Keeble lol.
>>28093342Yh. Far from the worst car Britain or BL ever made. Innovative. And with the V8 it could pull very well. But it was the start of Rover losing some of its identity I think, and going downmarket to pursue more sales whilst treading on the toes of its stablemate brands.
>>28093334Speaking of the P6, here's one for the thread.
>>28090758And a Dolly, 'cus why not?
>>28093368I learned to drive in a Sprint back in the day when proper wood, leather and real switches were boring and normal.
>>28093387Ooooh look at you, little southern poshums, with your la-di-da wood and four wheels.
>>28090758Posting, because somehow no-one ever remembers that Ginetta still exists.
>>28093047Absolutely.Have a Berkley. Doors, roof and a motorcycle engine driving the front wheels. What's not to like.
>>28093406Shhh!. Everyone will want one.
>>28090758This is how you design a car.
>>280934133-Wheelers need to make a comeback.
AC were a thing before Shelby and still exist.
>>28093419Everyone should.
>>28093399Vehicles with that layout have, as you well know, obscene turning circles.
>>28093443Now we're getting onto the really good shit.
>>28093435Anglo-American excellence.
Grr.
>>28090758We need more Lotus in this thread.
>>28090758The Exige and Elise were so beautiful.
>>28090758Noble. Another cool marque people forget.
>>28090758I so would.
Did someone mention fast?
>>28093657Presumably you still have to at least supply a donor Escort, though? Or would they source one?
>>28093673MST provide everything new unless you want something old. Pricey but you get exactly the car you ask for.Aston Martin, Bentley etc will do the same.
>>28090844>>28090851My mom did some work on the Mr. Bean movie and I got to meet Rowan while we were in the UK for it. I was only 10 so it wasn't much of a conversation but we talked about cars a bit, including the one he'd arrived in, a green Ferrari, which I've remembered for years as a 550 but was probably actually this exact 456GT.
>>28090758There's something very admirable about the Invacar. Designed for use by people with disabilities to help them get to work or the shops - and maintain personal independence - they were available for free through the DHSS.
>>28093780Supposedly all destroyed rather like the GM EV1 but if you look hard enough they still exist. :)
>>28090871I love the look of these. They look so flat in person.
>>28090758I really want this thing to enter production already. It's been ages since it was announced.
>>28093848Someone posted it!
>>28093848Also always thought pic was nuts.
>>28093844The Jag X308 really was brilliant. So refined and comfortable, but fast enough to shame some sports cars. Personally, I'd rather the Daimler version to the XJR, but either way it's a tasteful choice.
Brits always did the coolest coupes.
>>28090758Don't think the OG Range Rover has been posted yet.
>>28093914And while I'm here I'm gonna post the OG Land Rover too.
>>28093899Why thank you. Marcos and TVR were always too of the most savage choices you could buy.
>>28090758>>28093899First production sports car to be equipped with 4 wheel drive.
>>28090838>>28090844The only celeb I respect. Does the first Mr. Bean movie, spends the whole check on a McLaren F1, crashes it not once, but TWICE, fixes it both times and keeps it for 20 years. Fuckin hero this guy.
>>28090758Set a new direction for Aston Martin's styling.
>>28092495>and i think theyre much prettier than the XJ6Agreed. I consider them "threateningly elegant", like an extremely beautiful villainess.
>>28090758Beautiful
So according to all these pics the UK stopped being relevant in terms of cars somewhere in the late 60s
>>28093914I love these early RRs, always wanted to do a restomod on one. (Mechanical only, would still look stock other than maybe period-appropriate aftermarket wheels.)
>>28094357Pretty much. British manufactures became complacent and were resting on their laurels for far too long, with the mid 60's being the height. BL was the final nail in the coffin, essentially killing any innovation their brands might have brought forth.
>>28094357Sure, if you ignore all the pics of cars made after the 60s.
>>28094361Something a little like pic?
>>28090758True performance.
>>28090758Looking forward to seeing Aston race in the Hypercar category in Le Mans.
>>28090758I adore the lines.
>>28090758The One-77 is, I think, one of the best looking Astons ever made.
>>28094686it's doing the classic "DO IT FAGGOT" face
>>28094301i just prefer everything there is about them, the arched bow lines, the ass, the front end, teh quality control, the dashboard, the seats, the C pillar, the pontoon styled guards, the colour options, everything seemed more cohesive on them. Its a shame William Lyons disowned the car when the XJ6 S1 came along and called it 'much too big' retroactively and it seems largely forgotten even by Jaguar themselves with their past models page on their own website. Its a model that deserves far more recognition today, since i paid $1000 at a junkyard for mine, and aside from pristine examples are so incredibly cheap from poor resale. And they have such a road presence too and arguably were more comfortable yet sporting as a Bentley or Rolls Royce of the time, its a crime how overlooked they are. Muh v8 as many would critique it for
Love all Minis except the pigfat BMW-era ones
>>28093780>>28093791It drew too much attention to its users. Many disabled people want to be able to integrate on a day-to-day basis, even if they still require separate facilities or unique treatment to get by in critical situations. Cars can be adapted for use by the disabled so the invacar wasn't needed, and this way the disabled don't draw attention to themselves.In a lot of football footage in the 70s you can often see these blue vehicles parked close to the pitch. It gets self-conscious pretty quick.
Thornycroft's desert oil rig lorries
>>28095230Never knew these looked so good :D
Bongs used to be so creative. Sad to see how far they have fallen. It's like the place has fallen in to a deep depression.
>>28094914You make a decent point here.Tbh, I would add that the Invacar is less necessary today for the simple reason that times have moved on. After the Second World War, Britain had to contend with many wounded and disabled soldiers returning home, having sacrificed a great deal for the country. The then more socialistic Labour party desired a cheap but effective solution to both improve the quality of life for all these disabled vets, but also help keep them active participants in society and contributors to the economy.Now though, with so many such vets having moved on, and with improvements in adaptations for disabled users for conventional and safer cars, the Invacar isn't needed so much.I'm going to leave these links here though, as you might find them of interest. :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-4SHwZBEl0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP_GLOI1LQU
>>28095195Based.
>>28090838rowan atkinson is /o/ur guy>autistic>big free speech guy>for hoons
>>28090875based poms invented offroading kek
>>28091328ausfag here i remember peculiar 90-00s car culture mainly these fucking things on every wogmobile with sciccor doors massive subwoofers>not a pommy carclose enough its actually german but there was a Vauxhaul version of it
>>28092785BLIMEY I CANTS GET UP DIS ERE ILL
>Realise all my favorite cars and shows where british growing upRIP Top Gear Im so sorry for this SHIT aussie top gear spinoff poms
>>28090886>>28090882>here's your small affordable british roadster m8
>>28095490>cool details everywhere >dish wheels could be better
Except mine's black (or, more accurately, Onyx Black)
>>28095601When adjusted for inflation, The Lotus Elan was roughly £27,000 (£2,436 unadjusted) when new in 1962, where as the Mk1 Mx-5 was *supposedly* around £36,000 (£14,000 unadjusted) when new in 1989. I just cannot believe that the Mk1 MX5 cost so much, even when new, but this is the figure I keep coming back to. Even if you play devil's advocate and use the 1989 sales figure of £14,000 in 1998 at the end of the MX5's production run, it still comes back at around £27,000. If these number are to be believed, the Elan was a fuckin' steal compared to the MX5. That being said, both pale in comparison to the MGB GT, which was £16,400 (£998 unadjusted) in 1965.
>>28090758Morgan three wheeler
>>28095938Yes, but the Elan was a true sports car; the MGBGT was an A55 Coupe
>>28096015>the MGBGT was an A55 Coupesource
>>28094385I think that's a bit later, after they became more luxurious, and it's got a few more giveaways that it's modded. I just want one that looks and feels just like the utilitarian early models but with a drivetrain that's more reliable and can keep up with modern traffic.
>>28090758Want.
>>28096044I've got no good pics of that specifically lol, but I respect you goal, Anon. Hope you get your dream Range Rover.
>>28090758The lesser known brother of the XJ220, the XJR15.
>>28096075There was one of these in the Jaguar area at the NEC Classic Car Show this weekend just gone. I'm always surprised at how small super cars of this era are in comparison to photos.
>>28090851I believe they offered him a spot on the show with Matt LeBlanc but he declined it
>>28090758Seeing as though we haven't yet had an MG A...
>>28096078They're much smaller than they look in the photos, but I bet they feel enormous if your trying to park one, especially in a tight spot. I've been avoiding posting concepts, race cars and prototypes; but here, have the CX75. I really wish Jag had ended up putting this into production.
>>28090758Love the Mini Marcos.
Gordon Murray was on the design team for pic.His ended up FR rather than FF.
>>28096103Lol I forgot about Midas. And I didn't know that.
>>28096095>I really wish Jag had ended up putting this into production.Knowing their luck, it probably would have just killed them even quicker... Poor Jaguar.
>>28090758No-one ever remembers Reliant's 4 wheeled small cars.
>>28096110Tbf, I wonder if Jaguar should have moved more upmarket 50 / 60 years ago, in the BL days. Leave the volume executive luxury car production to Triumph and Rover, and instead pioneer supercars and supersaloons in the late 60s and 70s. The brand has lost much of its shine instead going downmarket to compete with the big German marques.
>>28096116People of a certain age remember the spate of wheels falling off Kittens.A friends dad had a blue one.
>>28090758There hasn't been much Rootes representation in this thread.
>>28096116Image limit. I wanted to post Princess Anne's Scimitar GTE.
>>28096137I don't think I've even seen one in the flesh. And oh nos we've reached image limit! :O
>>28096141No call for Scottish mid engined cars. Someone should bake.
Are we getting a new thread going, lol? I still haven't exhausted my autism.
Try this >> 28096174
>>28096174
>>28091166"I'm about to flex on these fookin peasants. Satan ain't stopping me from hunting in me Rover."
>>28096038>sourceSource = I'm old enough to know, I've rebuilt an MGB engine, and I've owned several TR4a's. The B has lever-arm dampers; cart springs; a rigid axle; B-series engine. But, if you want something more authoritative>Being based around largely MGB mechanical elements, an A55/A60 would be an ideal candidate for a subtle restomod project with a completely standard outer appearance. https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/guilty-pleasures-austin-a55-and-a60(although as the A55 predated the MGB, I'd have put it the other way around).My comment was also the standard insult from TR owners to MGB owners, the other being it was a "Sherpa Coupe", but I doubt you know what a Sherpa was so I didn't use that
>>28093119no wonder they are fucking shit
>>28097348I do love a well-argued and considered position, especially when it provides evidence
>>28096154Imps are rear-engined, not mid-engined. The engine was an all-ally, single ohc, inline 4-cyl based on a Coventry Climax fire engine water pump powerplant.
>>28093181I wish some company would re-manufacture some of the best looking english car with actual competent production process. I'd happily give my savings for a brand-new SD1 that would not be made by idiots.
>>28097616Only way I could think a company could realistically do it is if somehow they acquired a collection of original spares for every component, then assembled the car by hand. Or maybe if they somehow got hold of some CKDs that were never used.
>>28097643The problem with your idea is the issues SD1 and their like had wasn't just with the assembly workers (although they were bad), but the manufacturing processes and product design were shit too.How do I know? Almost entire career spent in UK car industry
>>28097725Lol. So you want a fully coach-built SD1? I think the cost to make would be prohibitive for the amount of people with the money and interest.
>>28097731>Lol. So you want a fully coach-built SD1?Where did I say that? Do you normally suffer from comprehension issue?
>>28097735Tbh, I wouldn't mind a coach-built SD1 lol. You're asking though for a bespoke car, as the demand for anything else just isn't there. That means someone would have to create custom jigs, and revise the fabricative processes to avoid using certain heavy machines which would not be cost effective or appropriate for such a limited run. I imagine some of the processes, such as the shaping of the body panels, would need to be done manually by hand in order to achieve the higher quality and avoid having to use pressings.The resulting car may still be abundant with all those interior plastics, and lacking a mahogany drinks cabinet, but I would still class that as coach-built personally.
>>28097735>>28097759Unless you use all the original jigs and tooling, but I don't know how you would get a hold of that now for the SD1, and am not sure how much you'd be able to improve upon the quality. I don't know whether your familiar with these chaps at all? They use a lot of original tooling to make their stuff, and I don't think they do anything for the SD1, but it's still very interesting.
>>28097759>You're asking though for a bespoke car, as the demand for anything else just isn't there.I'm not asking for anything. My only post on this subject>>28097725just pointed out that the SD1 and the like was fundamentally flawed and not just badly assembled.Your assumption about hand-formed panels giving a better final product than press tooling is also incorrect
>>28097769>these chapsforgot link hahahttps://www.bmh-ltd.com/body-shells/mini-body-shells/
>>28097769>and am not sure how much you'd be able to improve upon the quality.You wouldn't be able to - that's my point. The fundamental product design, tooling design and manufacturing processes were simply not up to giving a quality product. You'd have to start again from scratch
>>28097775British Motor Heritage also make various other bodies off the original tooling, like the MGB. Which means the fit and finish, panel gaps, etc as as bad as they were back in the day. The box sctions will still not have adequate ventilation and drainage, but if they EP dip the complete shells (which I doubt) they might rust a little slower
>>28097771>Your assumption about hand-formed panels giving a better final product than press tooling is also incorrectDepends on the skill of the craftsman and the quality of the jig surely, at least in the case of the SD1? If we were talking about another car then I'd probably be inclined to agree lol.>>28097777>>28097782I don't see how any company that tried to remanufacture the SD1 without using the original jigs or resorting to bespoke / coach-built methods wouldn't go bankrupt very quickly. If you have a more specific idea of how a company would go about it, then I'm honestly interested. :)
>>28097790>Depends on the skill of the craftsman and the quality of the jig surelyNot particularly. As well as the imperfections from the hand finishing, which have to be filed out, giving a panel of inconsistent thickness and therefore stability, you have to consider that the car will probably be different left side to right side, the gaps will vary, so aspects like the sealing effectiveness will also be compromised and inconsistent. Some parts will have to be fitted after paint, which means drilling holes in painted panels (unless you 100% finish the car, then strip it down to the last nut-and-bolt to paint it, then assemble it again). Good press tooling will beat a craftsman any day. I can even cite you an example from my experience, if you like.
>>28097790>I don't see how any company that tried to remanufacture the SD1 without using the original jigs or resorting to bespoke / coach-built methods wouldn't go bankrupt very quicklyI never said they wouldn't. I just said the original jigs, fixtures and tooling would still give you a shit car, no matter how carefully you tried to assemble it, because it was borked from the outset
>>28097804>I can even cite you an example from my experience, if you like.Please :)>>28097807>I never said they wouldn't.I don't know whether you've seen this comment >>28097616 but this is the reason I'm speculating as to how a new SD1 could actually be realised today, considering the guy said he would pay good moneys and wished some company would do so. Just as a fun thought excercise. Obviously, one must conclude it impossible, or else determine such a project self-defeating if anyone should bankrupt themselves in the process of making the car.
>>28097826>Please :)OK. Let's take an icon, the well-know Palladian temple that is the Rolls-Royce grille, and in particular the main frame before the vanes were riveted in. In the days of the SZ model and those before, these grilles had been lovingly crafted by skilled artisans cutting and finishing pieces of flawless stainless steel for hours by hand to achieve an impressive fit with almost invisible joins, soldering these joints together to form a rigid whole, with soldered-in filets at the back to reinforce the joints. This was then polished by hand to a mirror-like finish worth of such a car. So the craftsmen and women (but mostly men) who built every one would tell you. The only problem was the huge warranty costs that Rolls-Royce had for these grilles, where traces of the flux from the soldering would, over time and with moisture, leech out and cause the hairline joints between the many individual parts to become black and visible - not the sort of thing one wanted on the nose of one's Roller.So the P2000/3000 team, designing what became the Bentley Arnage and the Rolls-Royce Seraph (and of which I was a member for a while), replaced the multiple individual soldered pieces of stainless that made up the traditional grille surround with four main stainless-steel pressings off highly accurate tooling. These four were then welded and the resultant frame was polished to the same mirror finish before the vanes were riveted in.The craftsmen were up in arms, because this was not the traditional way that this was done, and such a development was an outrage, and the customers would be disappointed that their grilles were no longer the product of hours of artisan effort.The customers didn't give a damn, and the warranty costs for the grille plummeted.
>>28097826>I don't know whether you've seen this commentI saw it, but just filed it with all the other stuff on /o/ written by people who have no idea about automotive engineering and who have probably never been in a factory in their lives. There's too many of these to list, and I usually ignore them.
>>28097862(cont)But I will add that he seem to assume the only thing wrong with an SD1 was the way they were screwed together. My point is refuting that, as if you lovingly finish by hand and screw some pieces of Ikea furniture together you're not going to end up with a Chippendale cabinet
>>28097759>>28097790We're probably not there yet, but single-point 3D metal forming might become an option for things like that in the coming decades. It allows for making complex sheet metal pieces, similar to stampings or pressings, without the need for expensive single-purpose tooling and could eventually make small runs of "stamped" parts much more viable.
>>28097862Ah. Now I understand. Fair enough.>>28097879Quite agree.>>28097856Interesting. I'd be curious to know more about what you think of companies like Alvis who do form body panels manually (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQLeDMiWiMU skip to 3:05). It was by employing such methods that I was envisioning the body panels of the hypothetical SD1 might be done.
>>28097930Never seen this before. I think the closest thing I've ever done is metal spinning when I was a student, but this looks quite a bit more advanced and versatile.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Ntxb98-Akhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oqeVLILGHY
>>28097968Yeah, it's really interesting tech that has a lot of potential IMO. There's an even more advanced version in development that uses robot arms from both sides to do some really crazy stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCXu8Ju_fdY
>>28097341Ah, so basically it's not an actual fact, it's just a case of "a different puzzle built with the same pieces". Just wanted that clarified.>but I doubt you know what a Sherpa was so I didn't use thatMy dad has professed his love for the Sherpa more times than I care to remember, so I am very familiar with them. I distinctly remember him threating to buy a Mk2 Jag that someone had swapped a Sherpa diesel into. Really wish I saved the pictures I had, because that was a truly cursed swap.
>>28097975You could just buy in body panels like buying in castings. Sure it would be very expensive, but it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than anything else I can think of, particularly if you were doing a limited production run. I think maybe you could even do panels for the chassis too. :0
>>28097937>I'd be curious to know more about what you think of companies like Alvis who do form body panels manuallyInteresting video - I wasn't aware of the Continuation series, but many car companies are at it; Aston Martin recently announce the DB5 continuation, and Bentley up in Crewe have produced (or are producing) some reproductions (or continuation) of the 4.5 litre "Blower" Bentleys (even though the factory never fitted superchargers in W.O.'s day and he was vehemently against forced induction, but was overruled by Wolff Barnato).Alvis never made bodies - just roilling chassis, as was common in the day. The coachwork (as it was called) was added by specialist coachbuilders like H J Mulliner, Park-Ward, etc, to a customer's specification. The manufacturing techniques shown are traditional metal-bashing, and the shapes produced were often dictated by what could be reasonably achieved with the tools of the day. I'd be interested who is actuially making the new Alvis bodies - I suspect one of the several traditional metal fabrication companies still based around Coventry (although many have closed) - not that Alvis would tell their customers that.It is true that a good tinsmith would be able to replicate the shape of any metal panel that came out of a press, with sufficient small pieces shaped and welded, but modern car panels are designed with what a press tool can achieve; the tooling often trapping the edge of the sheet and the metal being stretch as it's formed, which imparts inbuilt stresses and tension that help it keep it's share and resist things like "palm-printing" and oil canning, which you won't get from traditional methods.. So the two panels would not be the same, and the hand-made one would probably have to be a welded patchwork
>>28098038*share = shapeSorry - typo
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>>28098038>which imparts inbuilt stresses and tension that help it keep it's shapeDidn't think about that, but a very good point.> a welded patchworkNo idea how that could be particularly good at all lol.>Alvis never made bodies - just roilling chassis, as was common in the day.Yh, I'm aware that was true back in the day. They name their different Continuation cars after some of the old favoured coachbuilders, like Graber, Park Ward and Vanden Plas.>I'd be interested who is actually making the new Alvis bodiesThe guy in the video, Paul Cooper, has a LinkedIn page, and worked as a 'Prototype sheet metal-coach builder' for Alvis / Red Triangle themselves in Kenilworth from 2019 - 2024, so I do suspect these days it may well be something now done in-house.Also, have you seen this? Never knew this was a thing. I think it might just solve a lot of the problems of metal forming for making an 'SD1 Continuation Series'. What do you think?>>28097968 >>28097975 >>28097930
>>28098079THE BONGS ARE TAKING OVER!!!!! :O
>>28097937>>28098038(cont)If that sort of thing interests you then have a look at Harry's Garage YouTube channel. Search the Videos section for the Lancia Fulvia restoration - there's about 12 30-minute videos, but the star is a semi-retired sheet metal worker called Adrian who repairs and recreates various panels that had either rotted or been bodged by previous restoration. Hours of endless fascination watching the guys work on that car, and a true expert craftsman.I've found you the firsthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLxF2D3RveQAdrian's metalwork starts seriously in episode 7 herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AScRe6dcEhsBut earlier ones give some background as to the state of the shitshow, even if they require time and patienceEnjoy
>>28098127That is truly incredible. It does sadden me a little though, for I wonder how much longer such skillsets will still be with us.
>>28098262Have you watched the part where, as the car had a replacement fibreglass tailgate (which was decidedly not standard), Adrian created a steel one for it? From scratch.
>>28098262>>28098419(cont)And it does go to the point I was making earlier. The original Lancia tailgate would probably have been two major pressings (inner and outer) spot-welded and hemmed together, with some reinforcements and small brackets. Compare that to what Adrian has to go through to create a replica, that even then did not have the A-class finish the original outer pressing had off the tools, so needed finishing before paint.I still can’t get my head around how Adrian can hammer or wheel a piece of sheet metal and shrink it to put a 3D curve into it - it defies science.But I agree with you about the skills being lost if the industry doesn’t have apprentices.
>>28098419Not the actual rear hatchback door. But in the above part 7 video he does replace one or two panels on the flank, and the way he goes about meticulously the curvature of the other surrounding panels to make his new insert seamless is something far beyond my skills.>>28098458It's true artisanry.
Hope you guys will see this post, I wanted to thank you anons for the cool informative answers you've given to my post about wanting to buy a brand-new SD1. I have indeed very little knowledge of automotive manufacturing and thought the SD1's problems only came from bad processes like mishandling the rust-proofing. It's been a pleasure reading you. Cheers.
>>28099192If you're still picking these up and have the patience (which will be rewarded, I assure you) if you watch this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRpVXsVor0MAdrian will give a masterclass in producing a bowl-shaped panel, curved in 3 directions, from a piece of flat, using a mallet and the English wheel. It's astounding.Then, as a finale, between 5:00 min and about 11:00 min, Adrian describes how he made a new tailgate from scratch, in steel from multiple pieces.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFiAt86cJws
>>28099309No problem.
>>28096095No turbine but ehhttps://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/road-legal-v8-jaguar-c-x75-c-x75-we-should-have-got
>>28099723Today was personally exhausting for me lol. I'll hope you'll forgive me if I don't watch these today. But nonetheless, thank you :). I'll try and watch tomorrow if I get a chance. If this thread dies before then, then you may see my response in the other one. :)
>>28099749>https://callumdesigns.com/cx75I didn't realise he set up his own business. I assumed he retired or something.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKwuQst94gEHoly shit are they actually building working versions of these things?!
>>28100091>Holy shit are they actually building working versions of these things?!Sort of. It's a reworked stunt car from the film with conventional running gearhttps://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/jaguar-c-x75-supercar-finally-made-road-legalThe original was consuming its bespoke Ricardo gearboxes at a rate that helped the decision to can it
>>28099723I have infinite respect for that metalworker. That's decades of knowledge there. I've met some such men like him, and it's always evident the just pride they have in their work, as well as the extent of their knowledge and experience. This is the sort of thing I initially had in mind with regards to theoretically making a new rover, especially that rear door.Also, the amount of munmuns Harry must have been paying for this... I mean.. I know he's not exactly hard up, and I'm not complaining, but still...
>>28100970He's doing God's work.
