Super expensive limited ones like Pininfarina Battista don't count. I'm not talking about under 1400 kg cause it would be hard to make but under 1700 kg seems possible.Do fast evs really have to be 2200 kg sedans and suvs?
>>28109024Don't make me tap the>"good cars are illegal to make"sign again...
>>28109024people won't buy EVs unless they have a very long range, and won't buy a sports car unless it has a lot of power, and that means big batteries.there's no market for an electric 1200kg miata with 110hp and 150km range.
Because there's a certain amount of range people will expect from an EV even if it's supposed to be a fast sports car. Sooner or later battery technology will get to the point that they have to add 1000lbs to a car to have good range.
>>28109024Because they suck juice just like gas cars when you put the pedal down, can't get around basic thermodynamics. But unlike gas cars you can't just fill them up again in 5 minutes once you empty the tank from having fun for a little bit.
>>28109024The energy density of a battery is horrible compared to petrol. Same reason you don't get electric propeller airliners.
>>28109024Alpine A110 (1130kg)alfa romeo 4c (940kg)Any lotus86 (1250kg)new supra (1530kg)etc etc
>>28109162oh, EV. Nevermind, lmao. Add 500lbs minimum to each of those cars and you have your answer. (more like 1000lbs extra for half the range of the ICE version).
>>28109024Alpine and Lotus were meant to build a lightweight electric sports car in collaboration until that fell through.Still, we should (eventually) get the Type 135 from Lotus, although they haven't done much effort to be lightweight lately; and maybe an A110 successor from Alpine as long as Stellantis doesn't decide to can the entire brand for no reason
Big batteries are not only needed for range but also to squeeze a fair bit of power out (for more than five seconds). Big battery means big weight.
>>28109212>StellantisNvm I'm retardedRenault*
>>28109024Maximum battery output is dependent on cell count. So heavy cars with big batteries are higher performance than smaller cars with lighter batteries. And battery weight is a larger portion of a heavier EV's weight than a lighter EV's weight, so the heavier cars have better range as well. >>28109030 A 1200 kg 82kw electric car probably wouldn't have 150 km range unless it was very tightly focused on minimizing drag and rolling resistance. Rolling resistance is a function of tire grip, so you'd end up with something more like a Lotus 7 with hard ass hypermiler tires and not only would it be a worse car than a Miata, but it would be slower and less agile and less capable of holding speed through corners.
>>28109024battery heavy.battery storage density 180 Wh/kggasoline storage density 11400 Wh/kg (63.3 times more)
