Is the rx8 an unreliable car to buy compared to others in it's category? I need a fast and fun car for mountain driving
Yes. Go check your local RX-8 listings and see how many list separate mileages for body and engine.
>>28117374You have to really want one, terrible fuel economy for a 200bhp car. Terrible reliability, really ugly looking especially following the rx7.But they're cheap? I'd save a bit more and get a 350z they're reliable, make more power and have better fuel economy.
>>28117410>terrible fuel economy for a 200bhp carthe phrase i heard was "power of a l4 with the fuel economy of a v8"
>>28117374Buy the cheapest one you can find and take it straight for an engine rebuild including a porting. That way you don't have to play the waiting game on a breakdown. £4000 all in for an alright example and the rebuild. I daily an RX-8 and it's literally not been giving me any problems that any other 20 year old car doesn't have. It's not fast. It does have a really nice chassis though. Arguably you'd be better off just getting an NC and a hardtop but I like being rotarded
>>28117410>I'd save a bit more and get a 350z they're reliable, make more power and have better fuel economy.This. Loved me Z, easily the best "bang for buck" car I've owned.
>>28117374You have to be really in love with the car to deal with the extra maintenance and cost.
>>28117374https://trade.mechanic.com.au/news/5-things-that-killed-off-mazda-s-rotary-engine1
>>28117374It's not unreliable while the engine is fresh. Best advice when buying one is, get one with a fucked engine for peanuts and get it rebuilt properly at a rotary specialist.Don't forget to completely revamp the ingition system.And never forget your premix every other fuel stop ( and there'll be alot).Oh, and never drive short trips in it, it needs to get to temp and redlined every time you drive it. But never turn it back on immediately after turning it off while hot, it will flood the rotor and choke, unless you give it gas while turning off.Also, the interior quality is total shit and the headunit and ac controls will fail.All that for a whopping 220hp, with a ported engine, catless exhaust and a tune, fuel economy comparable with a v10 M5 (though the M5 would get better fuel economy highway...) and basically no torque. In a heavy, almost 1400kg chasis.It does handle quite well though.I kinda want one, but I'm a massive retard and a masochist. Only get it if you know what you're getting into and you're a massive retard.
>>28117374Depends - do you have an engine hoist and an extra $4,000?
> Its categoryMidsize economy coupes? Those were dead in mid 2000s for the most part. Is it less reliable than a i4 compact car with sporty styling? Yes.
>>28117689It's not really true that it floods like you describe. It's dumb owners with low compression blaming their inability to start on flooding. I've never flooded mine. You can totally drive short trips in it and treat it like a normal car, it's not a snowflake tier car that breaks for any reason at all and I do about 11,000 miles a year in mineBut it is true that you should just not buy an RX-8 if you can't afford taking it for a rebuild immediately
>>28117374Just get a 100k mile c4 corvette with a boomer owner, 1985 or later
>>28117374>I need a fast and fun car for mountain drivingRX8s aren't fast. They're slower than the '90s RX7s they replaced. They're slower than an S2000
>>28117981>they're not fast, they're slower than other fast carsrx8s are fun.
>>28117374I see more blown rollers than running ones for sale. neat car though
>>28118132FDs and S2000s aren't fast you fucktardT. FD owner
>>28118171yes they are.I don't care what you own. it doesn't change reality.
>>28118175No they aren't you drooling fuckwit. Both cars barely crack 13s in the 1/4mi. That wasn't even fast when they were new. An FD is slower than a corvette of the same era, it isn't fast.
>>28118175>he thinks RX7s are fastkek rotards
>>28118179>blah blah irrelevant faggot shit wordsthey're both fast cars.
>>28118132>>28118175>>28118183>a 15s car is fastLol, lmao even.
>>28118220>blah blah irrelevant faggot shit words
>>281182206.5 seconds to 60 and a 15s quarter mile and over 3000lbs? jesus what a pile of shitimagine dealing with all the bullshit that goes into maintaining a rotary and this being the payoff. no wonder mazda sold like 30 of these the last production year
>>28117410But then you'd own a Nissan.
>>28118252nissan was a legendary brand until the mid 2000sit's very easy to tell who's a zoomer based on whether they respect what nissan was or think it's always just been a brand for niggers
>>28118237You can tell this retard has only been in shitboxes his entire life.
>>28118257The only people who actually cares about the past are retards who have shitty lives so they have to reminisce about "better times".
>>28118273you act like it's not possible to just buy an old car
>>28117374>rx8 >reliable>fastit is neither, I owned one for 7 years, have fun getting gaped by minivans in the straights.
>>28118171>>28118220am i missing something here? >>28118132 said that rx8s are fun, not fast
>>28118298>>28118181>>28118150>>28117981>>28117732>>28117429Ok so if the rx8 is out, what is a fun, reliable, fuel efficient, kinda fast car to drive in the mountains?
>>28118359>what is a fun, reliable, fuel efficient, kinda fast car to drive in the mountains?MiataIsAlwaysTheAnswer
>>28118237Pic related. >>28118251Yeah, that's why people swap V8s into them. You get way more power, better fuel economy and negligible tradeoff in weight balance. >>28118348Look at the post he was replying to. He then proceeded to double down on being retarded an calling them fast >>28118175 and >>28118183>>28118259Sad, amirite?
>>28118359A miata of the same gen after you install stiffer sway bars.
>>28118388>of the same genit really doesn't matter. ncs aren't really much different from nas or nbs.
>>28117374They aren't unreliable. People just don't know what they are doing these days. I have 60k miles on mine and almost all of that is track mileage. Car is great. I've had to replace the rear springs and ignition coils. Those are the only things that I would say are wrong with the car. Other than that, it is great. Only other thing I'd argue is that it does get bad fuel economy. But you will out corner and keep up with everyone else on a race track assuming they aren't built for cornering, which is where the rx-8 excels.
If you want one and have the space for one (three), yes absolutely. You won't hear a single person complain about the handling, especially for mountain driving. Learn to rebuild and swap on your own for peace of mind. If that's too much for you, just get a miata.
>>28117414That's totally inaccurate. It's the power of an NA V6 (of the time period) with the fuel economy of a v8. >>28117417this is pretty good advice, except the NC is somehow even uglier.
>>28119127right, so it mustve been a comparison with today's l4 engines then
>>28117379Alit of them are much cheaper than mx5's and there are a lot of engine and gearbox issues. Don't seem to hold their value well like bmw's and other expensive european cars
>>28119217Buying cars you intend to actually drive for their potential value gain is 100% retarded, buying cars that never got a cult status because of movies or video games like the RX-8 and expecting it to get you rich is beyond retarded. If you aren't ready for engine issues you aren't ready to buy an RX-8. It's part of the deal you sign with owning one. If you understand this when you buy it, and you understand where to go to get that engine built up to factory fresh levels, then you will have zero surprises in ownership.
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>>28119220What the RX-8 does have going for it in terms of owning it is>can actually bring 3 of your adult friends along in the car>surprisingly spacious trunk, way bigger than you think>extremely simple mechanically so a good car to learn to wrench on>extremely comfortable driving position i've not found the like of in any car>suicide doors for the rear are super useful BUT they are a pain in the ass if parked close to someone
>>28119221>kinda fast
>>28118396NCs have double wishbone up front and multi-link in the back, come standard with an LSD (unless you get an auto-tragic), and already come with big brakes, so you don't need to worry about boiling them. It's literally the best Miata, but people hate it because it's ugly and a little heavier.
My Japanese vtubers said that it's a fun car, but she would not recommend it as a daily driver.She had issues with the thing flooding and wetting the plugs and the starter giving out intermittently.
>>28119249>retarded anime faggot chimes in with hearsay from another retarded anime faggot that couldn't figure out how to maintain the simplest production combustion engine
>>28119262Kek
>>28119243idk that looks kinda fast
>>28118359Tessie M3
>>28119262That's the target demographic for these cars
>>28119262>anime website
>>28119288How come this post is never ever made in response to something reasonable written by a retarded weaboo, and only ever made in cases like this thread?
Ahem.>V12 reliability >V8 fuel economy (even worse imo since premix req'd)>V6 power>4 cyl torqueTo be fair, these days id take one over brz/gayty-six/frs, decent interior quality and can actually seat 4 people
>>28118171>t. FD owner (who can't drive)ok, whatever you say.
>>28120466yeah I have no idea what he's smoking to say fds aren't fast
>>28120466Slap that shiggy up there, brochacho! You really gave him the one two three for that list of cheese. Seeing it up there like that really shows just how long the times can drag for that particular roundabout. Really impressive, Jackie.
>>28119249flooding a rotary isn't a big deal. You just push start it. Or you can pull some fuses and crank it a few times. https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-yourself-forum-73/diy-deflooding-average-joe-plumber-182410/>t. only ever flooded 1 rotary, when I literally drove it 30 feet from one shop to the one next door, cold, and shut it off immediately like a retard. >>28119222annoying negative: rear seats don't fold down, so large items are a pain to load
>>28120466>extremely modified carshut up nigger
>>28117689There's so much misinformation about rotaries. You don't need to premix at all if your not tracking the car. The truth is most of the "reliability" problems are from people that don't maintain their cars and treat them the same as any other car. You should be using non-synthetic oil!! So many morons use synthetic oil and it leads to the biggest cause of failures in rotaries... Carbon deposits. Because those additives in synthetic oil which are meant to protect your engine aren't designed to burn!One of the best mods you can do is install a sohn adapter and run fully synthetic in your sump. > Do rotaries have bad economy? Similar to most other "Performance cars". I've got the 6 speed manual and I get about 25mpg long distance> Are rotaries expensive to maintain? Depends. Most people think just because they're cheap, they must be cheap to maintain. That is wrong. The aftermarket support is pretty good and used parts are cheap. The maintenance isn't cheap mainly because so few owners look after the cars and unless you get a well maintained example you've got to invest a bit.> Do they have rust problems?Like most Japanese cars of the era they do suffer from the rust goblin. Like the MX5's they like to rust in the rear wheel arch. So always check for rust before you buy. They're an amazing car to drive. I've driven plenty of expensive cars and the RX8 handles like a dream. Top gear gave it car of the year for a reason. Unlike a lot of sports cars it has 4 usable seats and a big boot! In terms of power you can swap a REW pretty easily and get those 400+hp figures. With new turbo tech people have been able to get 400hp on the Renesis on a stock ECU. >>28117689> headunit and ac controls will fail.Not a known issue. The AC pump commonly goes as it was undersized for the car.> the interior quality is total shit I don't know what your talking about. Have you seen the fisher price interiors of Nissan?
>>28120522stock late model fds were still pushing corvette level hp figures while weighing a couple hundred pounds less.
>>28118377>egligible tradeoff in weight balance.HAAAAAAAAAAyou serious anon? Even with an aluminum block it fucks the driving dynamics. If you knew what you're talking about you would have said a V6. But a good conversion kit is like $10,000... You might as well get a different car at that point. Unless you get a good rolling shell. >>28119262I hate tards that spout uneducated opinions. >>28120480Bro, you don't even need to pull a fuse. Fully depressing the accelerator cuts off the fuel.
Rotaries are maintenance intensive, but not unreliable. There's a difference and it matters. "Unreliable" implies that a random something will happen at sometime to most people but not all. If you hit the maintenance intervals right, you can bet your life on the things, but if you skip them you can call the point at which they'll fail like you had psychic powers. The RX-8 was sold to normies and moms instead of enthusiasts so assume that any you find are about to fail because those consumers don't even change their oil until something blows up. Rotaries are not traditionally fast, they are broadly lacking in acceleration and low end power. They have other advantages, chief among them the handling. They are fun driving regardless, but if you learn the feel of the car they will allow you to maintain your speed better through twists and corners and in that way they contribute to going fast. The other advantage is that they can go as fast as they can without stress. They love high revs, it's not some sprint that drains them. You can hang out over 7k RPM until you empty the tank and be totally fine. You can do dyno pulls, track days, midnight hooligan rides, whatever. You can do the verb "go fast" as much as you want.
>>28120552>hurr the weightAre you the same retard that said that RX8s were fast earlier too?
>>28119249Which Vtuber was this? The new one with green highlights?
>>28120536>Not a known issue.The temp control knob has weak solder joints, pretty quick fix though, happened to mine.
>>28120633Wonder what he removed to drop the weight back down.You don't remove a 247lb engine, drop in a 500+lb boat anchor and still weigh near stock. I sense fuckery.
>>28120807A dressed aluminum LS is about 400lbs. Move the battery to the back, hydraulic to EPS and you're close.
>>28120810Good chance of things like AC delete as well
>>28120633>Swap used the entire V8 Roadster swap kit (engine, trans, and differential)>Motor: All Aluminum 5.3L LS (L33)>Transmission: Tremec T56 ('00 Camaro)>Driveshaft: Aluminum PST driveshaft>Differential: Ford 8.8 IRS ('95 Thunderbird) with? GT500 LSD and 4.10 rear gearing>I'm about $20k into the whole thing currently. hit the easy button and bought a full V8R swap kit which replaced the entire front subframe>I was managing a GM dealerships parts department and was getting HEAVY discounts on all my partsyes, the weight. you're also fucking up weight distribution, which goes beyond just how much is in the front 50% and how much is in the back 50%. Even if we pretend that's all there is to it, he still shifted a significant amount of weight to the front of the car going from 50/50 to 52/48.
>>28120633also just to add onto this>>28120860he added over 200 fucking pounds to the car. even with an all aluminum block and tube subframe.
>>28120536that is a nice looking car anon
>>28118257>whether they respect what nissan was or think it's always just been a brand for niggersThe Nissan Maxima has been the car most likely to result in drug charges when pulled over for a traffic stop since it's inception. Not even joking, it's an actual statistic.
>>28120905because nu-ssan are cars for niggers
>>28120864>different car>different scales>different trimAre you implying they all weigh the same? Or that the guy didn't weigh his own car beforehand? I'm not quite sure.
>>28120935I'm saying the guy is a retard that had every reason to lie about his swap not adding any additional weight when the entire community said it would and he wanted to prove them wrong. Why not like, idk, post a before picture of it getting weighed?manual rx8s are not 3069lb cars. Depending on trim, they're 2850-3000lb cars. he probably could have spent half as much money just building the renesis and made as much power while doing the same weight saving things he did in his car in an attempt to not make his car pigfat and had a lighter car than when he started that had good weight distribution still.tl;dr: kill yourself you stupid faggot.
>>28120714Yeah Rindo Chihaya from Holo DEV_IS Flowglow.
>>28120963>they're up to 3k lbs>his car weighed 3069lbsMeds Anon.
>>281211993069 is more than 3000I know math is hard for you though, it's the only possible way you could think an engine that weighs 100-200lbs more won't increase overall weight
>>28117374Buy a based porsche
