Say something nice about the official /o/ engine!
>>28117548>whole things plastic>auto onlyId KMS if I popped the hood and saw this fisher price tier bullshit
>>28117548anything made by bmw past around 1995-2005 is a high maitenance money pit for badvewhores with more money than common sense.>b-but muh tunabilitythat thing has a shitload of problems at stock power levels, do you seriously expect it to last after you up the boost?
>>28117548I tip my hat to BMW for taking the torch of "powerful German engine that's actually decent and doesn't fall to pieces like everything else they make" from the 3.0 TFSI. When I'm looking for a new car in however-many years, I'll be taking a strong look at these, even though bimmers aren't really my thing.
>>28117579>I tip my hatanyone ever tell you that you write like a tranny?
>>28117563>B58>money pitit’s arguably the most reliable engine if you maintain it properly, dingus
>>28117563That's basically every engine made, not just BMW.I don't think there's a single "modern" engine that isn't a pile of shit where the pencil pushers cut corners as much as possible.
>>28117554>auto onlywrong
>>28117598*tips*
>>28117603>the most reliable engine if you maintain it properlyThat's fucking terrible. The Honda GX in our Cement Mixer is 10 years old and has had *maybe* 2 oil changes over it's life, and it still run like a champ. Any engine is reliable when taken care of, a truly reliable engine is one that works in the face of abuse.
>>28117629are you retarded?
>>28117629is this nigger comparing an econobox engine to a performance engine?
>>28117598Just the tip.Also you're wrong. Trannies don't have the self-awareness to cover their bald spots with hats.
>>28117639The B58 isn't bad enough to be called an "econobox" engine, but I agree it's not quite as good as the GX.
So /o/ is filled with big nosed monobrow turkroachs?
>>28117554you're thinking of the nissan VR30DDTT
>no roach, my corolla's engine is totally better, it's so reliableWhy are brokies like this?Why not work hard and find a path through life that will lead you to nice things, instead of being eternaly envious?
>>28117724>nice thingsSitting on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck isn't very nice, bro
Are br/o/kies really trying to gaslight themselves into thinking the b58 is unreliable?
>>28117766just ignore the commie cucks who think driving a fwd economy car is the true enthusiast experience
>>28117604>gen I-III coyote 412-500hp NA stock, loves boost, makes huge power with a warranty with a factory blower kit.
I have a B48.
>>28117770gen 2 coyote my beloved…
>>28117766A small displacement engine on a fuckload of boost will never be reliable. You never see that in the commercial world where reliability is key.
>>28117964You see that all the time with diesels actually. Often these newer gas turbo engines are built very similar to diesels.
>>28117695>big noseBig nose means big hose son
>>28117978Diesels have cast iron blocks and are heavily overbuilt to handle the extreme diesel compression. That's a little different than stuffing a bunch of boost into a lightweight cast aluminum block and then adding even more boost.
>>28117554FPBP
>>28117964semi trucks run 40psi of boost
>>28117986How often does the block actually split on a boosted gas engine? The failure mode is usually the bottom end bearings ( sized too small for fuel efficiency reasons), or some ancilliary part such as injectors. Not the rotating assembly.
Still waiting for the p/o/or to cite the 'high b58 failure rates' and their massive weak points.
>>28118071>massive weak points.The whole shit is plastic kek
>>28117548well its not surrounded by a be-massive-weight in your picture.
>>28118268What difference does it make if the cam cover is plastic or metal?
>>28118280>What difference does it makeits the difference between a car for a white man and a rental
Perfection
>>28118337>mcdonalds on all 4>auto only>glass diff
>>28118337why does it have 4 doors
>>28117629got to keep up with routine maintenance, such as.. Replacing the chain guides, vanos seals, injectors, coil packs, oil pump, water pump, main bearings, misc gaskets, reboring and re coating the cylinders.
>>28117986B58 and B57 (diesel version) use the same blocks. The bigger problem imo is the VANOS and timing chain behind against the firewall, but that's a problem at 150-200,000 miles. The worst I've seen high mileage cars get is clogged PCVs and turbo failures at 100,000+ miles.http://youwheel.com/home/2016/03/27/detailed-analysis-the-bmw-b58-inline-6-cylinder-engine/
>>28117548Legitimately one of the best engines for tuning that exists if you're not chasing "muh 2000 horsepower" that every Tiktok influencer is begging you to believe is necessary to have fun.>>28117563What problems does the B58 have at stock power levels? There's a lot of guys making 700+ horsepower on stock internals for >10K miles without any issues.The "all BMW engines are money pits" meme is also overblown. There were a few horrible engines they made in the late 2000's to early 2010's, but the B58 is far from unreliable. Toyota wouldn't have selected it for the MK5 Supra if it was as bad as cranky people on the internet want you to believe.
>>28118621Honestly everything with a N deserves its reputation other than the N52 and final run N55s (think what's in the M2)
What's with all the mutts coping? Do they realize why BMWs are known as the ultimate driving machine?
>>28117548They seem to be proving to be reliable as some of the higher mileage cars are starting to show up. If they can deal with 200k+ miles of people romping on it in sport+ and deferring maintenance it can't be that bad of a motor for the performance and even efficiency you get out of it.
>>28118975>If they can deal with 200k+ miles of people romping on it in sport+ and deferring maintenanceThe one you posted was owned by a businessman and driven around in comfort mode as you can clearly see.
>>28118975>turkroach fantasy>romping on it in sport+ and deferring maintenance>>28118998>reality>driven by a chink doing 20mph under in comfort mode and always maintained at bmw and anything they recommended he didLol, lmao even.
>>28117548Its a good performer marred by its absolutely atrocious exhaust note Even with a proper exhaust and no burbles it sounds muted and like it doesn't rev
>>28119010I think it sounds better than the S55
>>28119029Its not hard to sound better than a S55Maybe I'm just expecting too much after the S54 and S65
>>28119045https://youtube.com/shorts/7KXk40-Sn6Yit’s no alfa romeo 690T but it’s good enough for me
b stands for barra!my silvertop just shit its valve springs under boost LOL
>>28118975>idle>1200 rpm>check engine onits cooked
>>28117548This engine does not have piezo injectors.
>>28118339>auto only>glass diffWrong on both accounts.
Name 1 performance engine that can go on forever with mantainance.No, the shitty v6s in your Accord and Altima aren't 'performance engines'.
>>28119188define performance engine
>>28119188Easy. They even get swapped into planes pretty often yet the B58 doesn't. Hmmm.
>>28119191he said performance
>>28119201The LS makes more power N/A than the B58 does with a turbo. Literally the definition of performance.
>>28119205>comparing 6.2 liters vs 3 litersls made under 75hp/liter in 2014m52 did 75hp/liter in 1994
>>28119323Explains why they're so unreliable if they're that stressed out. lol
>>28119205>>28119323oh and the m52 was put in family sedans, ls in a designated sports car and it took them 20 years to get close to bmw engineering lmaoif we compare bmw v8 vs ls, bmw did 79hp/liter in 98there is a reason why mutts love european cars, but in eu noone drives amerifat cars
>>28117548>official /o/ engine!X doubt.
>G42fat piece of doodoo. I’m sorry but they killed everything enthusiasts loved about the 2 series. It’s literally a 4 series now. In conclusion: get a F82 M2C already
>>28120192>F87*fixed for myself
>>28117548>official /o/ engineThat's a junkyard truck LS stuffed in an 80s malaise barge
>>28119332>there is a reason why mutts love european cars, but in eu noone drives amerifat carsisn't the former because they look expensive and also have a lot of gadgets and gizmos the yuros back home don't get as extra failure points, while the latter is because yuro streets are often very narrow and parking is a real bitch?
>>28119332Eurochud here. I would take a mustang over a boring BMW any day of the week.
>>28117563>10 ft long timing chains that require engine out/ drop the transmission/ remove front end >Nightmare cooling systems, what the fuck is a water cooled alternator >Cylinder liners that literally eat themselves>The starter is located WHERE?>Retarded torx bits, clips, retainers and every unholy fastener that requires another specialty toolanything German is designed to fall apart after 100k km/end of warranty.
>>28120244>what the fuck is a water cooled alternatordidn't gm run coolant through the alternator bracket in one of their engines?
>>28120244then why are there thousands of B58 powered cars with 250k+ kms?
>>28120292>thousandsShow at least 500
>>28117629We’re talking about performance engines capable of putting out real power not some shitty lawnmower motor.
>>28119330>muh little overstressed enginesThe N52 in a 330i puts out almost 90hp/liter and those engines get to 400-500k miles easily. You don’t know shit about inline-6 engines.
>>28120400Then pic related is the most reliable performance engine
>>28120444>only the MOST reliable engine is acceptable
>>28117554>>auto onlybmw has paired it with a 6 speed manual since it's release. You're thinking of the nu-pra.
>>28120746Even B58 nu-pra offers a manual
>>28120754After years of people bitching about it.
>>28120734>claim "most reliable">wtf, why do you bring up most reliable?
>>28117548It makes the weebcels SEEEEEETHE
>>28117554IT IS OK WHEN THE NIP DOES IT!
>>28121136Actually yeah go see how many miles are on your average Prius (Avensis/Corolla Hybrid) taxi cab
>>28121142There are many high miles german taxi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=HGoFMi6CKII
>>28117548i want a single turbo forged internal S58 in my E92 so bad
>>28121182>german cars were reliable 30-40 years agoCool?
>>28120444Bzzt wrong
>>28121187Cope. Toyota is no longer reliable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klyb2VrACZc
>>28121206Never was
>>28120444>>28121190So can these go for a long time with no oil changes and other mantainance?That's what the original argument was about.
>>28121215The LS can. Probably not that shitty ass i6.
