They make some pretty good cars, even if they look a bit awkward.
>>28149229Make a thread about wiring issues.
>>28149232that would be for britbong cars
>>28149229the french make like 1% good cars, and 99% shitboxes
>>28149237Or oil leaks.Or rust.Or overall bad built quality.
would absolutely daily tf outta one of these if i won the lottery
>>28149237>britbong carsPic related: The British car industry
>>28149254But you forgot your pic?Oh right, herr Günther has it.
>>28149229Because they are unreliable like Italian , but have nothing cool like Lamborghini , ferrari , maserati
>>28149229My dad used to have Renault Laguna and he hated it. He scrapped it with no hesitation even though scrapping his Ford Mondeo was almost a traumatic decision to make. Now he has Peugeot Partner and he doesn't seem to like it.
They make unremarkable cars. Take the Renault Spider. You'd think, this thing must be like mid 5 or 6 seconds 0-60 because it weighs nothing, right? Nope, just as slow as a Miata of the same vintage. The French also seem to be very hard on their cars so not much comes out of France.
>>28149229Because this is primarily an American website, and French cars are not sold here.
>>28149309They were sold here for years, zoomer.
>>28149229just info wars, french cars are awesome.they just dont compromise with street cars because bulding that with 6000lbs and 500hp is just embarrassing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yel-uz2lMvAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kevxQi3Z94khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wul18ULy6yQ
>>28149253you better work from home.
>>28149266Does Bugatti count as French?
>>28149341created by an italian immigrant (who spoke french though), in alsace-lorraine at a time when it was part of germany.The brand had many owners during the years, and it's now owned by VW.Their cars are however built in France nowadays, and the engineering department is also in France (But they use mostly parts from the VW group)it's French, but barely.I consider them to be just a luxury/sport VW brand
>>28149326You think I'm not aware? I had a Renault 10. Don't talk condescendingly to me ever again.The newest French cars sold here are Peugeots, leaving the US market in 1991 and Renault in 1987. Citroën pulled out in 1974. It's been 33-50 years since each brand was last sold here new, and keeping them on the road gets harder every year from the ever dwindling supply of parts.
>>28149391do you still have it?it must cost a fortune nowadays to have a US specced one
>>28149232This was my first thought. I have a 508 mouldering needing both fucking front wipers replaced as they can't handle - wait for it - water. It also leaks into the boot at design spec. Otherwise quite good. I think I'd quite like the 2.0 HDi engine if I were in a mediterranean climate and the rest of the car didn't shit itself and die all around it.
>>28149400Unfortunately not. I have a chronic case of "owning too many cars" and something had to go. I want another someday.
>>28149253Imagine having one of these and a 6R4 to just rag around with the lads
>>28149229A lot of us are Burgers here. French cars might as well not even exist to us here except for the rare case of someone driving one up from Mexico, so there's no point talking about what we don't have. I'd love a 206 RC, thoughever.
>>28149229Not sold in the USMost of them are shitThe ones that aren't shit are interesting for reasons /o/ benchracers cannot comprehend, see "muh 250hp auto only i4" when talking about the A110, or the retard in >>28149303 calling a car that makes a Lotus Elise look like a Bentley "unremarkable" because it doesn't have a great 0-60(Interesting) French cars are always unique, for better or for worse
>>28149405damn that sucks. im sure it would be worth a lot of money, since even in europe, they are now a collectors car
>>28149229They're at their best when they either:>do weird shit (hydropneumatic Citroëns, Renault's decades-long minivan obsession, Peugeot's folding metal hardtop coupe-vertibles, Alpine anything)>put a midsize sedan engine in a small hatchback (205 GTi, Clio RS)Nowadays they don't tend to do these things anymore.
>>28149344>Founded by an Italian in Germany>German territory is annexed by France after WWI>Becomes a French company>French territory is re-annexed by Germany in WWII>Becomes a German company>German territory is re-re-annexed by France after WWII>Becomes a French company again>Goes out of business after Italian founder dies in 1947>Company rights are bought by an Italian entrepreneur in 1987, who builds a factory in Milan to engineer the EB110>Becomes an Italian company>Company goes under and is bought out by Volkswagen>Becomes a German company again>They commission Italian designer Giorgetto Giugiaro to design a new lineup of modern Bugatti cars>Volkswagen moves the company headquarters to France>Becomes a French company again
>>28149494and now you can throw a bit of croatian in the mix with RIMAC
>>28149494Isn't Veyron based on Bentley Hunaudières which is British but actually German?
>>28149229Fuck off Altair
>>28149494A truly european brand.Reminder that the oldest car still running is french.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riO3UUC9qo0
>>28149303I can confirm french treat their cars like absolute dogshit. It’s odd, because they’re so fucking poor and maintaining a good resale value would help them out the most.
>Because with a very few exception, the French make cars the way people though the Japanese make cars. Econoboxes that are under built but cheap. While the Japanese turned out to have overbuilt their cars, the French forever stayed under building them, resulting in them having trash quality.
>>28149303>aluminum chassis>plastic bodywork>no creature comforts, windshield optional>Clio Williams drivetrain in the back>somehow the Spider is only 20kg lighter than the Clio Williams, which is a fully equipped hot hatchFrench engineering everyone
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>>28149229i actually like it
>>28149229Lurker here, alongside owning a Smart Car.Your trannies are shit.
>>28149979>maintaining a good resale value would help them out the mostResale means nothing when driving is a contact sport.
and then there is renault
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>>28149326>zoomerMan I'm pushing 40 and I was like 5 when the last French car was sold in the US, and the last one you'd actually want to own was before I was born.
ive never actually SEEN a french car in person, i dont think they exist - its some sort of collective hallucination, you frogs are something else
My dad has almost bought a Caravelle 3 times now, but something always comes up and stops him. Shame, I quite like them. They have that "Instagram girl who obsesses over vintage things" vibe to them.
This has the same layout and engine as the DeLorean.
>>28149229Because the French actively hate cars, including ones they own. Clarkson points it out every time he's in france where nobody gives a shit what their car is or if it has visible body damage or running incorrectly. Then on top of that any of the african villages that had prior french influence intentionally have fucked up cars because they too hate cars.
I own this exact model and same color Citroën Méhari (1974).
Alpine cars are based.
>>28149461>weird shitThese days they mostly just make mediocre cars that still do weird shit, but on a smaller scale:>trunk latch button in the rear bumper so it's as grimy as possible all the time>stalk and button arrangement expertly designed for some kind of mutant with three right arms>some of the cruise control buttons didn't fit on the wheel or one of the stalks so they're among the AC controls instead>tiny steering wheel you're supposed to keep on your lap, but it barely has any adjustment so you may have to adjust the seat into a weird position insteadIf you can get used to this weird stuff, they're not terrible, just not particularly good either.At least you can get a Renault with a baguette holder. So they can put some thought into practicality, at least.
The most interesting car I can remember French making before A110 revival was Clio V6 RS.Otherwise they did not really cater to auto enthusiasts and because of their focus on flowy design got a reputation as women's cars
I don't like the looks of French cars but I drove an old Kangoo for a while. And I have to admit I liked it because it was robust, reliable and efficient. It was a n/a diesel from the 90s.
>>28154931Le based
>>28155413>90's>post Early 2000's kangooeh?
The lemans cars were very entertaining. Too bad they ruined the brand with electric nonsense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtAGyUb3GHo
>>28155437I think it was from 96 or 97. Not sure if the image I posted is the exact model.
I want one of these as a burger
>>28156971Think of it as a French Accord Coupe that'd be impossible to find parts for.They look great though, I'll give you that.
>>28155853renault hon hon type
>>28156971>>28156983One of the few pösös I'd consider owning.Didn't they also have a turbo 4 banger option on top of the 3 litre V6 one?I've heard a riced one ages ago woth the V6 and that thing screamed like a banshee when it hit 3500 rpm
>>28156989They had a 2.0l 4-banger, a 2.2l turbodiesel and the 3.0l V6, the latter of which was also used in the Clio V6 funnily enough.
>>28156971I drive one of those with a 2 liter NA petrol engine, ask me anything.
>>28156990>V6the PRV was shoved in just about every French car larger than a Clio from the 70s to 2000sit's universally recognised as a shit engine, even though some madlads pushed one to 400+ km/h at Le Mans
>>28153997>you will eat ze bug
>>28157168This one doesn't use a PRV, the ES/L V6 is a completely different 60° DOHC all alu design.
>>28157176kek
>>28157168It's not a shit engine, what it did have was problems when it was shoved into volvo's, as their owners were used to cast iron dry liner engines that run on any mineral oil while the prv was an all aluminium wet liner engine (thus a lot more sensitive to cold temperatures and overheating) designed for synthetic oil. The most serious flaw it had was a tendency for the water pump to leak, which leads to overheating and new headgaskets if the coolant levels drops too much, but that was sorted in the early 80's and by the time it got even fire crankshafts it was already completely sorted (similar story to the buick 3800 v6).It did very well for itself in competition, considering it won the paris dakar in the schlessler buggies, safari racing in the peugeot 505 v6's, as well as the top speed in le mans. You could also count DTM when it powered the alfa romeo 155 Ti, but to be fair the only thing that remained stock in that application was the bore spacing and the 90º v angle, everything else was custom made by alfa...
>>28149326Outside a museum, the only place I’ve seen a French car IRL in North America was in Regina, Saskatchewan, where I saw like 3. Maybe OP should go there.
>>28157208rightI though the PRV was built into the 2000s and early 406s and the Clio V6 got one, MB
most beautiful car ever made.
1994 Renault Clio Williams in honor of Frank Williams.only 5,000 sold.identification feature: golden rims2.0 16V i4 na 150hp 990kg
>>28161145Gets mogged by the 172 cup a few years later
>>28162511which in return gets mogged by my type of shitbox which is in the barn rn.
>>28149229They look awkward, they’re slow, and they’re unreliable compared to Jap cars or mid-tier German cars.
Renault 4CV1946 - 1961i4 0.750l 21hp 600kgbuilt right after ww2, sold 1.1million times
>>28149229No, they make de-facto shitboxes that look good
>>28163061god it looks like a fucking retarded combination between a f100 and a beetle
>>28163152I'm not seeing anything in common with the F-100 other than maybe the clamshell bonnet but even then it doesn´t open the same way. But the humble 4cv was surprisingly competent in rally racing, to the point the factory made a special "1063" version with maximum weight reduction (about 500kg/1100lbs) and a souped up engine that won it's class at lemans (22nd overall) and multiple long distance road rallies like the mille miglia. The driver that got the class win in the later went on to use the car as a basis for his own car brand, named alpine...
Peugeot 908 HDi FAP2007-2010V12 5.5 diesel700hp 1200 Nm 900kg
First car to reach over 100 km/h, in 1899. Powered by two electric motors and achieving 68hp.
Panhard et levasseur, first car with the classic arrangement of a front engine, transmission in the middle and rear wheel drive.
>>28154000How much crack was smoked during the design of this vehicle?
>>28165875https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L75DTTYr6Ug
>>28165875Yes.And then they fucking did it again, but slightly less insane, and actually sold it to the public.
besides the opel manta it was the renault 5 turbo which troubled porsche the most.
>>28155879>Killed off so they can make a bloatmax cuckover EV
>>28166233>Mégane and Scénic nameplates used for two electric crossovers that basically compete with themselves>Current gen Clio horribly uglified>everything else is crossoverslop of various sizes and rooflines, even the Espace>only things that look even remotely decent are the 4/5 nostalgiabait EVsI fucking hate Renault's modern lineup
>>28166256It's the same problem with Peugeot and Citroen
>>28166201DaFuk?
>>28166315Well the french did invent the v8, so no reason for surprise there. If you are wondering what those cups next to the spark plugs are, they´re there to funnel a small amount of fuel directly into the cylinder to help engine startup, you don't want to keep cranking one of those engines by hand for too long.
>>28159894my absolute dream car, I hope to have one one day, but it's so uncertain, prices only go up
They are just not the same without that plush body roll.
>>28154708>ClarksonShut the fuck up dicksucker.
>>28149229I'm french and I'm not planning to buy one. I'm looking for a new car right now, they're almost as expensive as japanese ones, but shittier. The most sold french car here are romanian Dacias sold by Renault, tells you a lot on what we think of our car makers.And yes i already had a chance to drive a twingo, my ex gf had one, I even had sex in it once or twice.
>>28154708>nobody gives a shit what their car is or if it has visible body damage or running incorrectlybased
>>28172169>want to get a new car>dont want frenchthen i'm sorry but you gonna have to buy either romanian or chinese now
>>28165867Ridiculously handsome car
>>28154005luv me Espacesalways had big renaults growing up, all of them went wrong in some way shape or formlast one (IV Grande, 2.0T) managed to kill itself twice over, both times after a long journey to a remote camping somewhere deep in the south of francewhich was convenient, because you could just ring the local renault dealer and borrow the ratty peugeot of the campsites owners sonquite a lot of the electronics rarely worked and i think my favorite piece of frenchness was the CD changer, which was hidden in stowage compartment in the boot which meant most of your roadside emergency kit had to be stored elsewhere
