/mg/ miata generalThread to discuss Mazda's Mx-5, Miata, Roadster and friends.Christmas time is happy timesOld thread >>28143103
Summer's heating up. Had a 33C (91.5F) day this week, giving thanks for AC.
>>28165374My zoomer friends all rip out their acs while I hide in my hardtop and icy breeze. It is my little igloo.
So last weekend I finally joined the faggot club and bought an NB miata. It has an LSD, 6 speed and heated seats, stock bose stereo. The glass in the soft top was totally busted out when I bought it and I already ordered a new black one. I managed to talk they guy down to 3400 for the thing. How did I do?
>>28165404Most of the enbee's I see are painted in metallic paints. Really like the unusual solid red colour on this one. Will be a beauty with a new black top. I'd rather see it with 15" wheels though.
>>28165404Absolutely awful. Just terrible. Way too much money. I'll let you sell it to me for 2500 to recoup some of your loses.
What do you guys think of painting the headlights black?Based or cringe?
>>28165404haha is that your cute gf haha
>>28165541Cringe. Ignoring the fact that it just looks kinda shit, it also makes the car look too aggressive.
>>28165541looks like shrek forgot to shave
>>28165404blud censored the cat>>28165529reddit reply
>>28165541Whoever did this is color-blind and has no taste.This must be some sort of humiliation fetish
>>28165633>reddit replyreddit reply
>>28165404Is that hail damage on the hood?
>>28165556kek
>>28165541So basically Mazdaspeed Miata headlights?
Posting my Miata. Getting ready to swap in speed bleeders and the FM steering bushing kit the day it isn't freezing outside.
>>28166461>speed bleedersLet us know if they're any good, I've always considered them, but ultimately thought they were kind of unnecessary.
>>28166461>speed bleedersMeem, I'd just get a vacuum pump. I literally enjoy bleeding hydraulics now.
>>28166519And recommendations?
>>28166522Cheapest vacuum pump on eBay has been serving me well for years. The truck to using vacuum is putting some heavy grease around the base of the exposed bleed screw when you do the suck so it doesn't suck air around the threads. You have to do this with every vacuum setup so it's not just because you're using cheap eBay shit.
For example here, you put a bunch of thick grease so it can't be sucked through and it will make a nice air seal while the bleed screw is loose. If you do a vacuum bleed without putting grease here it fundamentally can't and will not work.
FUCKING BITCH
>>28166547I need to do that next time.
>>28166522I have used this ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvyjS91DWWU ) method to bleed the master on my other car and it worked great, but I also needed to do this >>28166547.
I need to replace these faggot grommets since fluid slowly leaks and caused some paint to dissolve underneath the brake booster. Can I just suck out the brake fluid just enough to take it off and then swap them in and then add it back, pour some fluid back in, and NOT have to bleed the brakes ?
>>28165404YWBAW
>>28166563yes, you just don't want any air in the cylinder bore
>>28166563Probably better off replacing the unit as the plunger also has rubber on it.
>>28167117true. then I definitely have to bleed the brakes, REEEEEEEEEEEEEwonder if any of my vacuum pump attachments would snap to the lid and I could do it from there
Hello anons, need a good boomer reply. How are Miatas compared to BMWs from E92 and earlier? I want to know if it's worth my money to experience old BMW, or if I can get a similar feeling from an ND Miata. I don't care about tracking, I just want a nice engine sound and twisties fun, with a responsive steering wheel. Please only reply if you've actually driven an old beemer.
>>28167854I've owned two E30 318i cabrios, a 2000 E39 523i, a 2002 E46 330ci, and last but not least, a 2004 E46 ///M3, but the only Miata I've owned and still currently own is a 1996 NA. No experience with later models. Does my opinion interest you, or no? I ask because you specifically mention ND's.
>>28167968Elaborate, I'm curious
>>28166541Nah I don't feel like adding grease, speed bleeders don't need grease just a drain hose.
>>28166512>>28166519If i may, I strongly recommend pressure bleeding with a syringe on the bleed screw. One man operation to push fluid and bubbles up with gravity into the reservoir and suck it out, and you don't have to use grease. 5/16 OD clear tubing screws onto the threads of a veterinary syringe, just burp it and keep bubbles from entering. It's a niche method but its all I normally use
>>28165542It's my lovely wife who allowed me to buy a car>>28165840It's not hail damage, last owner decided to park it under a tree and it's got a ton of sap on it. >>28166656I do appriciate the transphoba, but pic rel is a real natal woman. you might wanna get your eyes checked.
>>28167968Go ahead. I get the impression that ND feels very close to the NA.
>>28168146>speed bleedersProblem is they don't work kek, good luck
>>28168389Felt like a slightly more rigid and lower cog NC to me. NA and NB feel the same, which is very very old compared to NC and ND. The suspension and chassis rigidity on the 3rd and 4th gen are night and day. Would be interesting to see some chassis rigidity #s for reference but that shit is hard as fuck to find.
>>28168389I doubt it. I used to own a NA several years ago and currently own a NB. The NB feels so much more tight. I imagine the ND would feel completely different compared to a NA.
>>28168409>>28168447hmm
>>28168116>>28168389Okay, onwards and upwards>E30 318iA complete tub of lard. The suspension was soft and pillowy, and the steering was light and comfortable. At 4 turns lock to lock, the steering rack is one of the worst I've felt for performance driving. For reference, I think an NA is 2.5 turns? These things can be made more performance oriented with things like aftermarket suspension and Z3/E46 rack swaps, but a completely stock E30 is a comfy cruiser, not a sports car. Oh, and all variants of the E30 are slow as fuck, and even the straight 6's can barely outrun an NA Miata. All that being said, I loved my white E30 very dearly and they're extremely good classic daily drivers.>E39 523iMostly the same as above, but exacerbated. The biggest advantage of the E39 is that the interiors are really nice, assuming nothing is broken, and they came with a lot of modern creature comforts like heated and massaging seats. They're made to be big comfy cruisers, and I'd argue they're probably the best 5 series ever made for it, which is to say that it's fucking terrible when pushing hard, with understeer being the primary issue. Speed wise they're slightly slower than a Miata if equipped with the lesser I6's, but V8 models will have no trouble leaving the Miata for dead, though that does come with the threat of the M62's dreaded timing chain failure, assuming they've not been replaced already. As with the E30, I liked my E39 very much, and it's probably one of the best "bang for buck" daily drivers I've owned, however it's also the furthest removed from the experience a Miata offers.cont.
>>28168661cont.>E46 330ciA gerat car with some very little compromise. Interiors are similarly lovely as the E39, though with fewer optional extras, but the biggest difference is that the suspension (at least the M Sport suspension, anyway) is very capable when driving at speed. The car itself wasn't "fast" per se, but it's certainly faster than an NA Miata, and the stock exhaust note was very pleasant to the ear. Like the E39, it's a far more practical and daily-able vehicle than a Miata, and is arguably better value for money. Still lacks that raw "sports car" feeling, though, and you need to modify or delete quite a few things such as the clutch delay valve to really make it a drivers car. A decent canvas to start painting, I guess?>E46 ///M3Easily the most disappointing of the bunch, though probably because it's hyped to hell and back. The steering was lighter than my 330, and it felt oddly vague and lifeless at times. The suspension was the worst I've ever felt in a car, hands down, though I have to mention that the previous owner had it on lowered Eibach springs, so I can't blame BMW for that. The engine was obviously the star of the show, and it certainly felt good to ring out the 8,000 rpm that was on tap, and the ITB's made throttle response extremely sharp. This was both a blessing and a curse, however, as the "sport mode" button which does nothing but increase the throttle map sensitivity, makes the car a nervous mess that violently accelerates at the mere mention of throttle. A truly worthless button. Maintenance is also annoying, as they're solid lifter engines which require valve adjustments every few thousand miles, and as this is a 24 valve engine, this is a very lengthy and tedious process. Overall it was a car that I was glad to have owned and experienced, but I have no desire to own again. They're WAY too much money for what they offer, and I had far more fun in my Miata, despite the cavernous gap in power between the two.cont.
>>28168662cont.Overall it's hard to compare old BMW's to Miatas, simply because they're a completely different type of car. The Miata in almost every aspect offers a more vivid driving experience, where as almost every BMW offers a smoother and more refined experience, and requires a greater deal of modification to match the same driving characteristics that came as standard on the Miata. Bang for buck, an NA Miata offers far less in the way of comfort than what a comparatively plush BMW has to offer, but for a DRIVER's car? Not much can really match the same feel that the Miata (or any other small, simple sports car) offers, though I feel like this gap might have closed as the years have marched on. Electric steering aside, I would have to guess that an ND Miata offers nearly all the creature comforts of the earlier BMW's while still being the better driver. Hard to say without any seat time in one. One thing I will note is that throughout all my cycling of those BMW's, I still kept my NA Miata, and I still have an E30. Make of that what you will.
>>28168664>The Miata in almost every aspect offers a more vivid driving experience, where as almost every BMW offers a smoother and more refined experienceDriven plenty of Beamers, and I think you've summed up the differences well.
Yo Miata gang wassup calling in from Australia, had mine coming up on 3 years in February. Has been off the road for 6 months and I've just been smoking cones inside since. Gave up on life for a bit and was poor in the city working a shit job.
>>28168724>no fogs nb1 C U T E
>>28168664>Electric steering aside, I would have to guess that an ND Miata offers nearly all the creature comforts of the earlier BMW's while still being the better driverit's worth pointing out the ND3's steering is excellent, best change they made from ND2 imo. great car lineage btw
>>28168664Thank you so much for the detailed experiences. I've been hearing so much song around older beemers, and... while I get the impression that they were enjoyable, your posts tell me that it's not really worth my money if I am planning to drive a Miata anyways. People were really hyping old beemer steering feel.
Today I showed her the snow for the first time. Man driving up the mountain was fun as fuck. I love my Fiata.
>>28169470Your Miat looks unwell.
>>28169493Pls dont bully my Fiata
>>28168694Thanks, nice to know I'm not far off the mark then.>>28169000>it's worth pointing out the ND3's steering is excellent, best change they made from ND2 imo.yeah, I've heard a lot about that on some enthusiast boards. I'd love to try my NA and an ND3 back to back, just to see how they stack up.>great car lineage btwThanks~>>28169229>Thank you so much for the detailed experiences.No problem.>I've been hearing so much song around older beemers, and... while I get the impression that they were enjoyable, your posts tell me that it's not really worth my money if I am planning to drive a Miata anyways. People were really hyping old beemer steering feel.Yeah, I'm not sure why there's any hype around BMW steering at all, it's not as if there aren't any other cars of the era that offer a similar or even better experiences. They're still good if you get something like a purple tag rack, but it's not good enough to be the sole selling point for the car. Their strengths lie elsewhere.>>28169470Very comfy, Miatas look nice in the snow.
>>28167854>How are Miatas compared to BMWs from E92 and earlierI drove an e92 m3 back when they were cheap. As a ND2 owner I would always encourage getting your high horse power needs before going into a miata.I honestly didn't appreciate the miat till I owned something with over 500bhp(not the m3), but with a lot more weight.Just know that e92 m3 prices are quite ridiculous right now. So its new car price with old car problems which is a lot more applicable to something german.
>>28169470valley forge?
>>28169788No, wrong continent altogether.
Inconel BMW M50 exhaust valves can fit 1.6 motors with the groove recut and head turned down to suit. Guide just needs honed .01mm, length is almost perfect. I'll probably make them +1mm. Can't believe nobody has done it, or at least nobody has talked about it.
>>28170595That valve looks much bigger. This is pretty cool but you won't take this anywhere because you're a faggot.
>>28170618Now that I've confirmed its viable I'll order the rest of the set as well as oversized intake valves. I'm fortunate to be able to do the modification in house. Already have the cams, springs and shim under buckets as well as the head to build
>>28170595Sooo.... What benefit do inconel exhaust valves give to be worth all this machine work?
>>28170677Above a certain level of boost they're almost a requirement on the exhaust side. They're readily available for 1.8 motors, but the few people that build 1.6s that far have to order custom valves. It's just one of a million reasons to build a 1.8 instead
>>28170691Fair enough.
>>28170691>It's just one of a million reasons to build a 1.8 insteadThe 1.6 is cuter and more pure though. >>28170627really based, sorry about calling you a fag
Rods came in also. Not much left for the long block, just oil pump and studs. I'll probably build billet main caps too, if I can find someone that can line bore them to a high standard. Every time I sub out work I'm underwhelmed by the result, but I don't have the equipment to do everything.
>>28170789>Someone on 4chan apologised instead of doubling down on the insults
>>28170288oh, looks like the memorial arch from far away
>>28170834Yeah, it's a WWI memorial arch, in the end they all look alike.
>>28169470fiata located
i want a rf
>>28171037That side window, FAKE
>>28171046dont care, still want
got it running under its own power finally. need to get the tune setup. Idles high but maybe I just haven't let it run long enough to get warmed up and make its adjustments when coolant gets hotter. I finally pulled it out and then put it back in the garage with the exhaust pointing outward now so I can actually leave it running. '05 VVT into an NA6 chassis.https://www.file.io/g38R/download/zrHQOLF0T20E
My preferred track day company are funny fuckers, I'll give them that. Genuinely thought they made a mistake for a second.
>>28171564Just taking the piss m8
if I was a millionaire I'd have at least 2 Miatas of each generation plus a fiataand maybe some other roadsters
if I replace the differential in my car (sport Miata so it doesn't have LSD) will it void the warranty
>>28171904For the diff, probably. And if for some crazy reason you have an axle issue and they think it was due to the diff installation they'll hound you for that. For engine or trans components ? No.
>>28171904Only if they can tell you've replaced it. Not like there's a silver holosticker over all the bolts.
Posting my cute Miata!
>>28172363I'd fuck it. You wanna watch?
>>28172366t-thanks
Does this radiator look fucked?Still a rapidly dropping coolant level in the reservoir that I have to top up once every 1-2 months. Already replaced top hose where a leak looked evident and put in radweld.
>>28172522>radweldFirst off I'd like to congratulate you on potentially fucking up your cooling system even further, because now instead of just a leak, you also have a coagulant circulating in your engine block that's likely to start causing restrictions here and there over time. I'd advise you never use that sit again, ESPECIALLY in the same car.Anyway, bent fins aren't great for cooling efficiency, but they won't cause a leak. Look on the floor where you park and see where coolant is dripping from, then trace that drip up the car and to wherever it's source is. If there are no drips of any kind, then it's likely an internal issue and it's either getting burned up in the cylinder or leaking into your oil system, both of which are best described as "suboptimal". One easy way to test for a coolant related head gasket leak is to rev the car while looking into the coolant reservoir. Obviously the coolant will move a little anyway because it's being pushed by the water pump, but if you get shitloads of bubbles in your coolant, then there's likely a head gasket failure.
>>28172550>never use that sit againnever use that *shit again
>>28172522>>28172550Oh, I should also add that you could buy a radiator pressure tester off amazon and study the rad to see if any coolant begins weeping out anyway. If the actual veins of the rad and not just the fins are damaged, then obviously a leak could form.
>>28172522It's normally the plastic end tanks that fail on the stock radiator. When they turn olive green it's time to replace.
>>28172363he cute
>>28173213Thanks fren
>>28173213You wanna fuck it with me while he watches?
Merry Miat mas
>>28173229I'm gonna fuck yours next
>>28173229neat!
>>28173229Merry Xmas fellow miat bro
Merry Christmas y'all
Merry Christmas /mg/.One of my gifts was a framed photo of a dog in my car which I posted here in August.
>>28174018he cute
>>28171019Bravo anon. Are you from around here or did you just sperg out checking every WWI memorial?
>>28174023no I knew which country you lived in from one of your other pics so it wasn't hard
>>28165541>I tint my headlights so that they don't work as well.
>>28174194not that i approve of the shit but its actually slightly different. he painted the "housing", the reflector and lens are perfectly clear. it was a fad started by the original honda civic type r. instead of chrome trim surrounding the reflector and projector, it was tinted a dark gray to differentiate it.
>>28174194I wish more people would so I could see at night
more body roll = more fun
>>28165541it might look fine if the rest of the car was repainted
>>28176764body roll is body soul
Are NCs still under the radar and affordable compared to NBs and NAs?
>>28176853Check your local FBM & CL and find out!In my area there are a bunch of NCs at new-car prices that have been up for months, and occasionally one pops up for ~$5k and is sold by the next day. I think the real deal is NBs, old enough that they sell for old-car prices but you don't pay the pop-up tax.
BMW M44 head bolts directly to a BP block. Interesting ain't it?
>>28176970
>>28176970Well, that's fuckin' neat. Completely worthless, but still neat. Is the bore spacing the same?
>>28176970Bullshit, post more pics. You won't do it since you're a fag.
>>28174194>Man I really wish I knew what OEM Mazdaspeed Miata headlights looked like
>>28177357https://burstcraftusa.com/pages/bmw-m44-head-to-mazda-bp-block
>>28177470pretty neat that they share some dimensions however the juice isnt worth the squeeze. hes talking about re-engineering the head to accept normal seals, custom valve covers, going back to fixed cam gears. theres no point in doing all that bullshit just to run a block designed in the 80s lol. A real nigger would just do that bmw swap and make it fit in the stock bay utilizing all of bmws fancy valve timing mechanisms, high pressure fuel delivery, fancy piston/bore coatings etc. So yea, a bellhousing adapter to fit a miata tranny would be the smartest idea instead of building a one off Frankenstein mystery meat engine.
>>28177470Rather have a K what the fuck is a m44 LMAO
>>28176853they hit lowest prices about 2 years ago, prices right now are starting to come up. occasionally a very cheap NC1 pop up here and there, but good luck since they sell out quickly.
Working on a quiet street in the shade with friends - max comfy
>>28178536sus
>>28178547How
>>28178550just look at it
the other day i saw a pic of an NB miata with an aftermarket fastback hardtop and it made me want one for my ND.but i wish mazda made an official hardtop for the ND regardless of shape. i'm pretty tempted by the third party ones i've seen because i don't want to buy an RF.
>be me driving>cute, small, pure>nd comes up behind me>oh great, Miata parade!>he changes lanes from behind me>oh great, we're gonna say Hi to each other!>he just blows past meI fucking hate NDs they're so stupid also ugly!
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>>28178626The ND is new and therefore attracts the most normies who don't share the automotive camaraderie of most Miata drivers, it's not the car's fault that their owners are cunts.
>trying to tune idle>car starts up and hits 3k before dropping to 1700>runs lean like a mf>fuck with idle valve settings>apparently mine opens wayyyyy before 26% and possibly 5%>idle drops to a reasonable valueslowly getting there, bros.
>>28179338>>runs lean like a mfWhat wideband did you get?
>>28178626Everyone else I see driving them is a 50+ year old woman. I don't know what you can expect.I'm a good ND friend who would never bull a cute NA. I always wave and try to keep pace with them till we have to part.
>>28179545>I'm a good ND friend who would never bull a cute NA.I'm actually a NB, you still wouldn't bully me r-right NDkun. I know you have a lot of horsepower and bluetooth connectivity but I'm still a miat
>>28179470The cords are so thick you can't make it work in place of an A/C vent unfortunately. I'm going to try moving the ground to where the ECU is grounded. I have the ECU grounded at the back of the intake and the wideband grounded at another spot on the intake. If that doesn't work then I guess I just need to adjust the calibration scaling or w/e.
>average NA miata costs around 10k eurodollars in my cunt now (even high mileage ones)>2016/2017 ND with 50k miles can be had from 16k eurodollarsafter so many years of having my NA weekend car I'm so desperate to pickup a comfy roadster to daily
>>28179555
My speedo is running 10 too fast. I installed revlimiter Gauges over six months ago and it went flawlessly, no issues at all. Left the car to be worked on by a friend and he for no reason took out my cluster and fucked with it (fingerprints all over it, I have a photo of them after I installed with zero prints). Even the screws are clearly aligned differently. Ever since I picked it up from him the speed has been 10 over. I soldered the speed sensor yesterday to see if that was the issue and while it was very fucked up it didn't fix that issue. He won't tell me what he did and in fact insists he didn't remove it at all despite the proof and the problem only happening directly after him having the car.tldr speedometer 10 over and soldering the speed sensor didn't do anything. What the fuck else could it be?
>>28179697>Left the car to be worked on by a friend and he for no reason took out my cluster and fucked with it (fingerprints all over it, I have a photo of them after I installed with zero prints).fucking LEL, shit was your buddies parts car. it pays not be wrenchlet cuck, you basically stop being taken advantage of everywhere you go.
>>28179697The needles can be installed at any point on the speedometer drive. Maybe the needle isn't reinstalled correctly?
>>28179701You dumb cunt. Part car? Nothing is missing you illiterate retard. I did my cluster MYSELF. He has a hoist and I don't, I do big stuff WITH him. He took the cluster out when I wasn't at his house because I'm not a homo and don't sleep in his bedroom.>>28179704Maybe. I'm warily hopeful that me personally redoing the needles will accomplish something. I don't have the little pick tools on me or I'd do it today. Originally, when it was accurate, I used the GPS method and placed my needle while driving. You think he could have placed it while going 10 over what he was actually doing?
>>28179741>He took the cluster out when I wasn't at his house because I'm not a homo and don't sleep in his bedroom.So why would he start pulling needles and taking the cluster apart if you only do "big shit", your buddy is evil and you're a sucker.
>>28179743Because he's a piece of shit obviously, he's also still denying it despite that image I posted. He still didn't take anything, he does claim that he "only opened it to put a needle back on that fell off". Which was the temp needle supposedly, which had never fallen off for over six months. And yeah, he's never allowed near anything I own ever again.
>>28179772should have posted an anime girl with that one would have been cuter and I'd be more sympathetic but you called me a cunt so you deserve this.
no mean posting in /mg/!
>>28179828
>>28179828based and comfort pilled
>>28179775No one deserves bad things to happen to cute cars.
>>28179772sorry i called you a wrenchlet cuck anon, i was just frustrated okay! u mad?
>>28179856I'm mad at him. I was a wrenchlet but I've been learning to do most things myself. I didn't have a dad to teach me OK.
>>28179880>I'm mad at him.i hate his """friend""" so much
This a decent wheel?Guy I bought my miata said he took it off to put the stock wheel back on
>>28179902looks like cheap shit
>>28179907Yeah but how do I tell if it's decent cheap shit?
The mean posters are just Camaro fags trying to shit up our thread. Do not reply to them
>>28179890I will fix her don't worry. Maybe I'll even select a different style of gauge face this time!
the driver side window in my new miata is squeaky now. how do i fix this? it's under warranty so i can take it back to the dealership if there's a fix i can easily do at home i'd rather not deal with them.
>>28180390Identify what part of the window is squeaking and lubricate that part.
you are all fucking gay
>>28180681When you fuck the gay, the gay fucks back
I'm having a hard time straightening out this frame rail so I can fit FMs rails over. The entire length has side bulged.The reinforced front and rear is also bulged. 71mm. Needs to be 66mm
>>28180925I got one side 90% there. Now for the other. I'm on jacks max heights and I can't get good swings with a hammer underneath. Pita
>>28180925>>28180953Based frame rail healer
>>28180681post car
>>28181312don't post car, we don't actually care
>>28181364this
>>28180957Thanks, I got the 2nd frame rails mostly slid in placeI need to reapply all the scratched off undercoat and then mallet the frame rails over and drill holes.
Buy miata stick shift and rent on turo?
>>28181715Never rent anything on Turo, people will break your shit."Don't be gentle, it's a rental"
>>28179915You're gonna crush your face with that wheel anon, don't do it. Research it first please then make sure you have good dental coverage.
>>28180953Brother that is a cut and weld job. There will be no way to massage that metal in to shape.You could be a dick and cut the mushroom bit out, paint the cut areas and slap the reinforcements over them.>Mine were not bad to put on and I used the jack to press them into place>Fearing the front sway reinforcements, I hear those are intentionally made short so you beat them on
I hope yall n-word f-words will get totaled by based bmw driversTotal Miata Sissy DeathTotal BMW Supremacy
>>28181795I got it mended enough for the new frame rails to fit over. The problem are the overlapping ends that have been used as a jacking point bulging out the side
>>28181787Won't all aftermarket wheels cause that in a crash since none have airbags?
