is it possible to compete with foreign supercars in a gr86?
>>28178624And boost and some stickies. There's no chance you do that shit though kek. You already know your place.
>>28178624>to competein top trumps? No
>>28178624stupid show
If it's pouring down rain and impossible to see and you're a super genius who has the track memorised down to the square inch and excel in driving in such conditions, sure...
>>28178624You can if you got the skills. In a straight line no but on the touge anything can happen
>>28178674seriously though wouldnt the GT3 dominate pretty much every race without the weird unexplained tire rule?
does anyone know where i can read bari bari densetsu? it's shuichi shigeno's manga about motorcycle racing before he made initial d. mangadex only has 4 chapters and every other site i've checked doesn't have it at all with one exception having a single chapter.
motherfuckin ghost
MF Ghost is an order of magnitude more unrealistic than even the most absurd shit in Initial D, Shigeno stopped pretending to maintain any verisimilitude long ago.There is quite literally no way that an almost totally unmodified GR86 could do anywhere near as well as Kanata's.
>>28180402Never scanned/translatedBuy it and pay someone.
>>28180402The scanlation community has people that can scan things properly as they have high dynamic range scanners. Various Chinese paywall sites also scan Japanese manga and magazines and then sell those scans at their paywall.
>>28178624It is if you're the mother fucking ghost
>>28180448>almost totally unmodified GR86I thought the owner modded it extensively
>>28178624no, The show makes up the stupid tire rule to try to explain it.But The reality is modern cars blow it to pieces. >>28178878maybe.The 911 GT3s tend to put down the best lap times, but the reality is; the 718 Caymans are actually a better platform.
>>28178624>is it possible to compete with foreign supercars in a gr86?that's a GT86.but, MF Ghost has the weird universal weight to tire width ratio rule to "balance" all the cars in the setting, even if it doesn't really make that much sense in reality. Kanata is also a turbo-autist genius.Oh yeah, and it's fiction.
>>28178624That's why it sucks compared to intial d and wangan midnight. >>28178826No, even within togue you must comprehend real world limits. The suspension of belief worked in intial D because the AE86 was a light weight ride with a monster 6 digit $ engine and even pre-swap the horse power, torque, and even weight difference was just 2 steps below takumis competitors which he filled with skill and utilizing the opponents not taking a sleeper seriously.Wangan midnight more so the same but for old chassis and engine compared to state of the art super cars that are suped up. The issue with MF ghost is a brz is in no shape way or factoryish form even remotely comparable to the cars it's being put up with. Even if you put a bunch of retarded rich dads who larp as racers as his competition, the technological assists and raw numbers even with the rules favoring rwd as opposed to awd. Just doesn't make sense. It's like intial d but instead of the ae86 fujiwinner pulls up in a fucking kei car honda Beat and pulls away on a straight against a turbo'd jap scrap.>Inb4 brz owners taking offense>inb4 zoomer defends his slop over my slop
>>28180448I have never in my life heard the word verisimilitude. thanks for teaching me a new word, anon
>GT86 competing with high-end sportscars/supercars and struggling for most of the show >UN FUCKING REALISTIC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>AE86 competing against 600hp sportscars and winning literally every single race>AMAZING SHOW, 10/10 HE'S LITERALLY MESuck a dick, fags.
I don't know that much about racing and I've only read 7 volumes of MF Ghost. Im sure it's pretty unrealistic but so far I don't think it's much worse than Initial D. It seems like a lot of the opponents are handicapping themselves with things like traction control. Most of them aside from the guys who studied in Germany and France just seem too unskilled to get the most out of their expensive cars. So its kinda similar to Initial D in that sense.
>draw the shittiest character designs ever>trace cars>make millions and become the most beloved car manga everIs this realistic?
>>28181829what's a better car manga
>>28181824You could put my turtle ass in a Lambo and I can still win against a stock/lightly modded FRS on a high speed course
>racing savant>his last name is REVington
>>28178624shigeno is a retard who doesn't understand how cars work
>>28181829literally zero competition
>>28181926Wangan midnight.
>>28181816>>AE86 competing against 600hp sportscarsname 5
>>28183368Nakazato's R32 and LanEvo crew with >muh misfiringu shistemu
>>28183376>This wrenchlet thinks they were makin 600 in the fucking 90s >OMEGAKEK
>>28183438>*EARLY 90s drifters >inb4 muh race team>inb4 top speed builds
>>28183376home turf dagumi;s been running for years also not even close to 600
>>28178624About as believable as an FA20 producing more power than factory lasting a full lap in that course without any of the pistons ejecting through the front fenders.
>>28183438People in the 90's running on the expressways were already pulling 800hp out of rb26's, even back then 600 was chump change for those engines
>>28178624>>28178669This.Also No./thread
>>28181816>night time racing on a very tight public road where you spend most of your time in 1st/2nd gear and can't see more than 10 feet in front of you, so track knowledge is arguably more important than what you're driving. Vs>daytime circuit on a high speed closed course where all the drivers already have the layout memorized and the only limiting factor is some asspull tire rule that makes no sense. Mf ghost is just stupid. If his car was boosted to 450hp+ it would be slightly more believable but the way it sits now he's somehow gaining tens of seconds on his opponents in a single sweeper. It just makes 0 sense and is a low effort reboot clearly done by someone who doesn't understand how racing works.
>>28178624Anyone who has ever driven a vaguely popular mountain road knows there is NO FLOOR for how slow expensive sports and supercar owners can drive.
>>28183367>this is a cursed devil Z? I'm going to build it and race it!*crashes*>this devil Z really is cursed huh? well I'm going to rebuild it and race it!*crashes*>this devil Z really is cursed huh? well I'm going to rebuild it and race it!*crashes*>this devil Z really is cursed huh? well I'm going to rebuild it and race it!*crashes*Most overrated anime ever made.
>>28184294>those enginesSpecifically which?
>>2817862421 lbs of boost to make 385 whp, stripping the car for 2500lb goal, re07s or 052s or similar at 285 on 10in wide, front splitter and a dumbfuck big wing, tooth rattling suspension.All that and you probably couldve just bought a vette
>>28178624If the supercar driver is the average "look at these lap times set by other drivers" /o/ tard, absolutely
>>28184321Are you blind anon? It says which engines on that post.
>>28184294>Express highwaysIt must be a painful existing being as stupid as you, literally 1 Google search will reveal you that all of the cars from intial D never made it past 400 horse you just lie as you breathe.>>28184320And your bait is tasteless and vapid, like your choice of Chinese cartoons you wrenchlet fuckhttps://youtu.be/7qdHNmQpbG4?si=LAUDee1qMLVHMw6K
>>28184309>high speed closed coursethey're racing on public roads in areas that were evacuated due to mt Fuji erupting. there's narrow bits, curvy bits, sharp bits, and long bits, maybe not as beneficial to underpowered cars as downhill touge racing but they aren't driving on well-maintained oval race tracks or anything. and all the races in initial d were pretty well organized, they may as well have been closed courses too. now I want to read a racing manga where there's a risk of running into police or hurting random bystanders.
>>28184479Surely he can't be talking about the RB engines which struggle to hold 800hp even with Today's knowledge and technology without cracking the everliving fuck out of the block
>2025>still no Over Rev! animewhy live
the only reason there is any kind of "organization" or air of legitimacy to the plot of MF Ghost, only exists because without this particular plot contrivance, Shigeno would not officially be allowed to draw cars of certain brands, as they would be participating it what appears to be an illegal street race. Honda and Toyota both have huge marketing problems with their cars being used for illegal street racing in video games and excise a high degree of control, even large western companies like EA simply can't just have a GT86 running form the cops in the latest NFS even if Subaru has no such problem with the BRZ.MF Ghost's entire plot is just Initial D refactored to be corporate and licensor friendly. The basic premise of MFG is lifted entirely from the Kaido Battle video games. it's not even original. If you want MFG but good go play TXR Drift 2 on the ps2.
>>28178624>is it possible to compete with foreign supercars in a gr86?The audience in /o/ is far too jaded to accept almost any concept. They'll just whip out some sort of complaint no matter what.
>>28181816Let's not forget takumi literally cheated a few times by cutting the corner.
not enjoying MF Ghost for what it is is a skill issue
A GT Mustang is the best buy for cheap speed
The series would have been infinitely better if it was just contemporary cars instead of le epicc exotic hypercar wank. It could have at least been somewhat believable.
>>28181024He did. Most people who complain about the realism of a rice burner beating stronger cars on paper didn't watch the show. And apparently forget how critical tire management is during long races as that is probably the most critical factor here.>Even if you put a bunch of retarded rich dads who larp as racers as his competition, the technological assists and raw numbers even with the rules favoring rwd as opposed to awd. Just doesn't make sense. it makes perfect sense when they over drive a 90% twisty track. for reference most circuits favor straight like speed by 60% or more, even the most technical ones hardly get 50/50 with it. A lighter car that isn't shredding the tires can keep a better pace in a corner and there are a lot of them.
>>28188975I've never seen a normie drive a super car fast so it seems pretty real to me.
>>28188975But contemporary cars can never be cool and are all usg
>>28189012Other than the turbo (which wasn't added until chapter 96) and the new wheels, the mods are just relatively minor suspension/brake changes and a bunch of cosmetic shit.
>>28189089so, mods that directly take boost the already strong advantage of agility on a track with little room for power.
>>28181816What I recall more is Ryosuke being a tryhard LARPing as an actual race engineer and showing up in a van full of tires and data logs to clown on a bunch of retarded teens hooning on the mountains. He also has his drivers practice the course before racing. It is actually believable that they always win when you think of it that way. Also Takumi's AE86 is far from stock.
magical toyota (subaru)
>>28186219you know they would fuck it up anon. just reread the manga and be comfy.
>>28184320Based. I couldn't even finish that show, kept falling asleep. Initial d can be dumb but at least it delivers the goods now and then. WM is for hp autists who enjoy driving in a straight line.
>>28189064this is the third time today i've seen "usg"what does it meangoogle is not turning up anything
>>28190866Unbelievable. Speedy. Great.
>>28183355You know he was paid to make a BRZ ad right
>>28191242don't mess with me asshole!
>>28189089>the mods are just relatively minor suspension/brake changes and a bunch of cosmetic shit.we don't know that. it was emphasized many times that we don't know what bunta did. iirc at the beginning of several earlier volumes they had a description for some characters' cars and the ae86 only said it was a mystery each time.
>>28189089>>28192127disregard me, I thought this was about initial d for some reason.
>>28178624When you have physics warping, reality bending powers, anything is possible.
>>28178674I love this autistic fucker
im kind of autistic about localizations vs translations and this keyfob group is getting annoying.
>>28181273The Cappucino was one of Takumi's harder races anon.
>>28193046Dear god this is gay as fuck.
miatabros... shigeno is still making fun of us in mf ghost...
In chapter 209, Shigeno decided to explain why a gt86 can remain competitive 1/4
>>281944032/4
>>281944073/4
>>28194316this reads like a shitpost
>>28194408no clue if this is even remotely realistic but there you go. it's the tires mfg forces on everyone that give him an advantage. 4/4
>>28194359As long as the Supra stays on its wheels, is the GT86 really a match against a basic bitch B48?
what's another good car manga after initial d, mf ghost, and wangan midnight (that has been translated)
>>28196656Over Rev!CapetaShakotan BoogieCountach
>>28194415A lot of race tires are like that. some favorite acceleration, others lateral grip. I have a hard time believing you can design a tire that degrades more in lateral grip that forward grip though.
>>28196683>Shakotan Boogiewhere can I find this in English? my usual sites don't have it
>>28184320SATAN TUNED MY Z.
>>28187810so. what the FUCK is it?
>>28197390Only a single chapter was scanned but here you gohttps://mangadex.org/chapter/c8cd18a2-8624-435e-a2fa-ea8916329b5c
>>28178624best racing mange has already been released
I started wangan midnight and it's pretty good, dare I say, kino. >>28199560what is that?
>>28199570https://mangakatana.com/manga/f-noboru-rokuda.20550/v1c1f-1 manga made by a mega autist
>>28193046K I N O
>>28178624Don't underestimate driver mod. A proper suspension and tire setup on these cars can do wonders, and people who own them know full well that they did not buy a car for straight line speed. You do however need to suspend belief with manga and anime such as this as it's still victim to all the usual tropes of an untouchable hero who is simply better than everyone else simply because "he just is".