>drive a car? Pay for public transit improvement! >don't like it? Take the bus/train [ignore the mentally ill/homeless people]
and this will solve the problem how?
>>28192525>Large Trucks>Small Trucks>Passenger vehiclesCan someone explain the difference to me? I assume "large truck" means semi-truck/18-wheeler. Small truck means box truck. And then passenger vehicle is everything smaller than that, right?They aren't really charging $14.40 for Ford Mavericks but letting old Crown Vics drive in the city for $9 are they?
NUKE THIS FUCKING CITYt. New Yorker
>>28192542NYC roads were designed for Crown Vics.
>>28192532By forcing the proles into the subways and clearing the roads for people rich enough to not give a fuck about an extra $9 a day.
>>28192525>Trucking companies now pay more to get into the city>Which then gets transferred to the shops paying for delivery>Which then gets transferred to the customerThe MTA gets $19b a year to sit on their ass and do nothing. None of this congestion pricing is going to help traffic, its just going to move it elsewhere and make everything inside or coming through the city even more expensive. Just another embezzlement scheme.
>>28192545eat shit lolt. unfairly taxed and under represented subject of the future Great 51st State of New Amsterdam
>>28192557The union says I get overtime to sits my ass in the token booth on my phone.
>>28192542Small Trucks - Dump Trucks, Garbage Trucks, Box TrucksLarge Trucks - Tractor Trailers Usually anything with commercial plates = truck or the sensors are smart enough to charge by the axle like the other bridges and tunnels >>28192561It's not even the union, the amount of money MTA Capital Construction wastes is criminal. How do you spend $70m to renovate a subway station?
>>28192566I think most of that money is spent on environmental impact consultants.
>>28192525Uber and Lyft, of all things, lobbied for this. By rights the tax should apply to each individual private car fare service but the Jews in Manhattan exempted themselves.
>>28192616They don’t make that much >t. regulatory consultant
Unfortunately making things even more expensive to drive off more poors will improve manhattan and they'll pretend that wasn't the point
>>28192525the real reason for congestion pricing is because the city is broke because of the migrant shelters and all the illegals they are taking care of. now tax payers have to foot the bill so maria and jose from venezuela can keep living comfortable in their manhattan hotel.
I like how nobody in this thread can comprehend the fact that cars are completely inefficient means of transport and as population desnity increases, so does their drawbacks. Despite the city having the highest percentage of mass transit usage in the USA, it has the worst traffic in the USA.
>>28194088>If the goal was to improve traffic rather than racket users, they'd improve the mass transit to get more people on them.
>>28194088Yes, a good 40% of the cars on the road in NYC at any given time are Ubers/Lyfts and other cabs. That's why they only pay $1.50 to enter the city, because yuppie numtotters need their $20 Uber from LES to Bed Stuy when the G Train won't run late at night on a weekend
>>28194110NYC has the best mass transit in the USA and the highest ridership, so your statement is false. >>28194111Yeah, but removing personal transport vehicles is the first step. If Uber and Taxi are causing issues then that will be the next to be taxed heavily.
>>28194196The personal transport vehicles aren't the issue, it's the 40% increase in ride share vehicles loitering the roads for 8-12 hours shifts since 2015. The personal vehicles get parked at some point once they reach their destination. The Ubers have to keep driving to make money. And not counting the delivery apps (Amazon and other shipping gig services, GrubHub/Seamless and other food delivery gig apps, UPS/FedEx for online deliveries) that are now on the roads further generating traffic.Again, the best part is that this is at best just going to cover the MTA's bond interest. MTA as a organization is doomed to fail and best off privatized.
>>28194216Bro thinks what's worked every single time in every single city that has done it thinks it won't work this time.
>>28194088A lot of heavy rail and subway infrastructure was ripped up and never replaced. There were also plenty of roads that got canceled.
>>28194111>>28194216I looked it up an Uber/Lyft are charged more than passenger cars. $1.50 per trip. $0.75 per trip for taxis.
>>28194088I love cars, but I recognize that if you live somewhere like NYC, they are often the worst way to get around. Which is why I don't live in NYC or any other large city.
>>28192525by encouraging people to stop driving, more people will use transit. More public transportation riders mean it will be safer, cleaner, and better.... is what I heard from a europoor.
>>28196695It's not our fault the MTA is as corrupt as a Nigerian military junta. Normal cities have good public transport. This even applies to cities in Eastern Europe and the Caucasus.
>>28192553Ding ding. Convenience for me, not for thee.
>>28193213Pretty sure he "environmental impact consultant" as in someone they're paying off.
>>28197452The subways in Mexico City AND Montreal were both cheaper, cleaner, and safer>>28197909Not enough attention goes on the managers and engineers. They're the type to continue building something to meet a deadline despite not being ADA compliant...only to have to tear it down 90% of the way done instead of listening to their legal dept. This is the same agency that had a press release about changing lightbulbs. Everyone pays attention to the unions because they want to make $100,000 a year too but no one pays attention to the contractors making a KILLING. https://inside.lighting/news/24-02/let-there-be-led-light-nyc-subway-stations
>>28197918Contractors aren't allowed to underspend. They have to spend every penny they're given, or else they get budget cuts the next time around. Further, who do you think the unions work for?
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>>28199371top fucking kek
>>28199371I hope she gets hung from a pole in Times Square.
>>28192525>Sign up on Uber>get charged $1.50 instead of $9Citychuds hate this one simple trick
>>28199418kek if this actually works
>>28192525H'yep. >>28194196>Best mass transit in the USA Not a high bar. The subway sucks ass and I avoid it when possible. Any discussion related to the subway is an exercise in sophistry until you admit we need to both completely gut/unfuck the MTA and bring back stop and frisk if not take a clue from dixieland and have segregated train cars, neither of which are going to happen any time soon. >>28192549I was in Brooklyn a few months back and saw one of the last two. Didn't take a pic sadly.
I will miss being able to drive back to NJ from Long island without a toll, not worth it to drive up to the GWB then have to pay tolls on the turnpike to get back down to PA . Overall I think it's a good thing, especially that the lowered the price for overnight hours,
