Hello, I live in NYC and with new congestion pricing...I cannot pay this. What is the best way to obscure plate? I was thinking dried mud all over car, heavily caked. Need plausible deniability, because don't want to be arrested. Would I be arrested? HELP
>>28192712Live somewhere else faggot
Hire a storage facility near a train station and park in that. Why the fuck would you drive in NYC
Walk, take the bus, take the train, or get out. New York City doesn't want you to drive, you're too poor and there are too many people driving in the city.
>>28192712Take plates off if you get stopped say they got stolen and just put them back when your past the tolls
What this Anon said >>28192848 : Take the train or make changes to your life to avoid NYC all together, its a shithole. But if you really need to, drive a bunch and really layer on the salt grime and dirt, then cover the plates.
Conveniently, I used to be the only 24/7 sysadmin over all the tolls in NYC for several years (from 1000 miles away). They can re-create plates even if 2 letters are partially obscured, it's impressive how well it detects them, but still less than a percent of cars don't get scanned usually due to obscured plate and because we can't read the plate we can't really report them.I don't think the cops care but maybe NYC cops do. When I worked with the MTA they were very difficult and didn't want to deal with tolls, there were several people who took the toll every day and never paid (bills in the tens of thousands) but the MTA never sicced the cops on them while I was there.I wouldn't risk it. I highly recommend moving residence or jobs or just taking the train. I can't imagine living in a city like that, the only appeal I see is that there are lots of women and places to meet them but I'll stick with the countryside.
>>28192712Let's think outside the box here. Instead of trying to avoid getting the plate read, how about allowing them to read the plates, but making it difficult for them to send a bill or establish personal liability.Could you get a set of Mexican plates and registration documents? What if the car were not owned by you personally but owned by a corporate entity?
>>28192712Accidentally splatter some lines of black paint over the characters of your plate so that it just so happens to become illegible to a camera. Think AI art words
>>28192771That's the solution there. NYC fucking sucks for driving. The city is making it very clear they do not want your four wheels on their tarmac.
>>28192859I tried this one when I had expired tags. Faggot ass cop just took the vin from the windshield
>>28192712>Create a family trust or small business, register your car as an asset under the trust/business and never specify who is driving.>If you are especially unethical, buy plates online matching someone else in the state with the same make/model/year/color. Mind you you will get fucked for this eventually.>Licence plate flipper is like 200 bux, flip before the toll both then flip back after.>Literally park and take a bike or bus outside the city.>Get a new licence plate with "888B8B" or "11I1II1" or something deliberately hard to read.There are like 5 other ways to beat this but I don't have the imagination right now as I am drunk as fuck.
>>28192712Subway seems safe and effective. Why not take that. >flame retarded clothing>stab proof vest>neck shield>reverse camera to prevent sneak attack pushing you onto tracks>nitrile gloves to prevent contact with feces or accidental fent odhustle and bustle red brick bla bla bla...
>>28192712You think the cops won't be looking for that? Remember the point of all this is to make money, for the city. This probably won't help, but years ago, when I did business a few times a year in Manhattan, I'd park in jersey, at the airport and take the subway into the city.
>>28193320More people die of car fires than the subway.
>>28192771the areas near subways are 9/10 usually already built up that's the problemplus urbanists never answer the last mile issue, often you still have to get from the subway -> your destination>>28193130you still have manhattan in between new jersey and queens/brooklyn
>>28194039I'm not even a fan of New York style cities, but I think NYC is simply overdeveloped and the actual solution to their problems is to stop trying to fit 20 million people in that metro area and expand the city into surrounding countryside, also knocking down suburbia for medium density mixed use buildings is what that city actually needs to do if they want any chance of salvaging their situation. The forward thinking solution would have been to not try to put all of this development in just New York when you have all of the East Coast to work with, though, not even accounting for all of the empty land in the Midwest and South.
kek imagine living in NYC
>>28194065Further urbanization isn't going to work. Everywhere a hour from NYC is already very dense comparatively to the rest of the country. Anywhere close to the subway is already heavily built up. The subway costs billions to expand and MTA is horrible at managing capital projects. Just look at how long and expensive the Second Ave Subway took for reference.The real answer is pushing WFH and encouraging other cities that are less dense to be built up instead of trying to cram 20 bags of shit in a 5lb bag but that doesn't help the (((owners))) of NYC commercial real estate. And you know what else didn't help NYC? The migrant crisis which saw the population go up a good 20-30% after COVID. It's why despite people leaving NYC for other states or even suburbia the population has gone up.And no one actually drives through Manhattan by choice. There's a whole peninsula east of Manhattan with 7 million people that are just going to get routed through already congested Staten Island and Bronx. Pic related for reference. 2 of the 4 routes for you to enter NJ and the rest of America have you going through the yellow congestion zone highlighted.
>>28194019>more people die in the world than in one city
>>28194156You got it reversed. More people take the subway in NYC than drive there.
>>28194142Oh I know, sending all of the migrants back and stopping more from coming will help a lot, and developing the rest of the East Coast over NYC will help even more. I already give NYC a very hefty berth when I drive up that way, it's a nightmare and the only time I went there (on accident, miscounted the bridges and went a couple too early), I thought I was about to be grand theft auto'd by under bridge homeless crackheads. That city needs to empty into the surrounding area, but if they wanted to try to get anything to actually work, they'd need a competent administration AND to piss off the voterbase (which isn't going to work, but whatever).
>>28194163no, it was "More people die of car fires than the subway."cars are everywhere, but subways are only in certain places
>>28192712Remote controlled plate cover or plate flipper on Aliexpress. Flip it on when needed, can have a novelty plate on the other side.
>>28194065The solution to all problems is to genocide non aryans
>>28192859You're still not allowed to drive without plates even if they got stolen.>oh yeah sorry my plates got stolen so now I'm exempt from needing plates on the road hehe
>>28194065The problem is too many brown immigrants and them breeding like rats.
>>28195308So the world population would be 90 million (the population of Iran)?
>>28192712>Need plausible deniability,no such thing. it is your resonsibility to mak sure your plates are not blocked, and are readable.i saw a cop approach a nissan driver with his hand on his pistol cause the nignog had snow covering this plates.
>>28194065No, the solution is to deport the scum to Atlantis. The rent is free, and the city can accommodate 2 billion people easily
>>28195872>i saw a cop approach a nissan driver with his hand on his pistol cause the nignog had snow covering this plates.He probably pulled his gun cause a nissan was reported stolen and the driver was a nignog.You only know the observable factors, not the actual reasoning in someone's mindIve been pulled over a few times. They never approached with the guns out
Tell your boss you will fuck off to Pennsylvania and a new job if he does not give you a company car.Simple as.
New York is so nuclear bomb attack coded. I can't think of another place where a nuclear bomb drop would be more deserving and effective. Oh wait, there's Tel Aviv. But New York is a close second.
>>28193320>thinks hands are the only place you need protection from fecesngmi
>>28194163Don't confuse physical death with other, worse forms of death. Everyone on the subway is dead.
