>double wishies>300hp+ with a remap>400hp+ with a turbo upgrade >actual steering feedback >dependable>efficient>practical>not obese >pretty>no retarded or mudslime fanbaseCome home, white man.
>europoor shitboxno thanks
>>28195229Don’t forget 2024 introduced a mechanical LSD too
>>28195229My 2tonne Barra turbo shitbox has all that and cost 10k seppodoos
>>28195229Looks like it weights more than a ton.
>>28195229>300hp+>400hp+if you're obsessed with horsepower just get Tesla and be done with it.
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>>28195246Emotional support vehicle
>>28195229156s used to be unreliable doe
>>28195229>pretty
>>28195393thisOP knew exactly why he'd use the least offensive angle for his thread opener
>>28195229Downsides:Can't fit enough tire in the front, even a Quad has like 245s on a 505hp/3700lb carNot obese but not light either at 3600lbsDME has to be reprogrammed in to add Race mode + need Giulia QV DNA dial so you can actually turn stability control off (otherwise permanently on and you'll feel it when you try to exit corners)The horsepower figures op gave are crank because the turbo on these cars is tiny and the redline super low to meet Euro emissions.Torsen diff was not a common option unless you find one with adaptive dampers (usually a top spec model like a Ti or Veloce), most sold were Q4 if youre in a snow state.It's not a bad car but it has its limitations. It's still really fun to drive and a nice place to be in. It's honestly on the same performance level as the low $30s sport compact (think GTI or WRX) if you can get Race mode programmed in.
>>28195229FUUCCKKK OFFFFFF Stop telling people about these.
>>28195255>autotragic selfreport
>>28195229400 is actually about the cap with a new turbo, otherwise your multiair vvt shits the bed. But it's a breeze up to that point, just bolt on mods and a tune
>>28195229auto only loving faggot, ricer
>>28195229But this is still alfa romeo
>>28195467>>28195427They literally sold it in manual (euro-chad version only).
>>28195229>dependable>pretty
>>28195483You like that spoiler and you're a faggot
>>28195261If you are too poor for a fast car just get a bicycle and be done with it
>>28195229>>300hp+ with a remap>>400hp+ with a turbo upgradeCope harder
>>28195229>dependableyeah, I can depend on it being in the shop constantly
>>28195595fake news. the 4banger is bulletproof
>>28196986What about the 6 cylinder? That's just a de-tuned v8, and the 4 cylinder is a de-tuned 6 cylinder, so roughly as good?
>>28197155yes
>>28196986>>28197155the problem with alfas ain’t the engines, it’s the electronics. but the 2020+ models got upgraded with better stuff and are fine
>>28195229>>300hp+ with a remap>>400hp+ with a turbo upgradethis is the biggest benchrace shit
>>28197222>doing car things is benchracer shitthe total state of this board and nuMales
>>28195229These are usually driven by White or asian males in my area but like 10% of the time it'll be a fat sheboon somehow. Must be an FCA thing. The transmission is extremely soulless. Unironically excellent build quality.>>28195393six eyes is cool, at least post the derpy pre-facelift>>28195397It's a hair over 3500lbs for a no sunroof RWD car. Good call on the front tires, seems to be a thing with Alfas not letting you fit enough tire. Though I think that's common for this class of car, e.g. Lexus IS has the same problem. The limited slip diffs I think are easy enough to find.>>28195423demand would have to 2x for used prices to go up significantly desu
>>28195397I run 255/35r19 in the front (and rear). bigger makes no sense for a 300hp car that’s already pretty heavy
>>28197231post car
>>28197246it’s in the op. here’s another one. I’m also this guy >>28197240
>>28197246
>>28197252Why did you settle for the shit 4banger instead of the godlifoglio ttv6?
>>28197429because it’s merely a track tool. a qv would be a waste>why no bmw?I wanted something different. the vast majority of cars on track days are BMWs over here. I bought the qv steering wheel though lol
>>28197232I actually find the Torsen Diff RWD cars hard to find because I live in a snow state. 90% of the ones for sale here are Q4 AWD cars with low specs. >>28197838That's actually really fucking cool.How much does it weigh? What did you do for tuning? How difficult was it to put the race mode in to shut off traction/stability control fully? >>28197240Bigger is always better. I'm used to running 255s or 265s on 300-350hp 3200lb cars like Evos/WRXs/CTRs. I mean stock fitment on a G80 M3 is like 275/285s and that's 500hp/3700lbs.
Also the brakes on this car are the fucking gayest worst piece of shit brakes for driving around town that you've ever tried. No matter what they grab really hard as soon as you drop below like 3mph so that the car can shut the engine off for muh drive cycle fuel consumption.
Literally zero (0) reason to get this over a 340i without mentioning reddit stereotypes about who drives certain brands or something
>>28197969insecure
>>28197969You're obviously correct but a lot of poorfags here have the 4 cyls so they will defend them to the death (lol).
>>2819788insecure
>>28197972>insecureI dont own any European car brands and never have. I have no skin in the game here. I still think people who buy alfas instead of bmws are just trying to be special snowflakes
>>28198000thats the whole pointif you wanted the fastest best performing car in the segment with no consideration for emotions you buy a tesla model 3 performance
>>28197959It's just brake by wire, I've got 20 year old cars with "electric" brakes and they act the same. They help instill confidence when you can tap the brakes in an emergency (high speeds, late into a corner etc) and you know you're going to have enough stopping power. Once you learn to smoothly roll off the brake as you stop and you'll be doing chauffer-smooth stops in no time.Brake hardware itself is Brembo, and the "Integrated Brake System MK C1" (yes, IBS) is made by Continental and both companies are known for making good hardware. Stop/start should also be the first thing permanently disabled by either an adapter, a tune, or better yet, both.>>28197969>soulless steering>maccas struts>open diff>$10k difference used w/ similar mileageDifferent market. I shopped many 230i and 330i models before buying my Giulia since those were what's actually priced similarly. I did look at one nice M240i that was in my price range, but it had 60k more miles than the Giulia and was still more expensive. No, I don't care that it might be faster in a straight line, I've got other (boosted V8) vehicles for that.>>28198000Trips of truth, I've no shame. I owned many BMWs in my day from E39/46/53/60/90 and generally liked them. After moving to Mercedes after a while it was either go back to BMW, or finally get to try an Alfa that's not a 164, Spider or vintage Giulia. Without using a bunch of cliches belonging in the Top Gear Italian Car Road Test Cliche Swear Box, I just find them fun, cool and rare enough to make seeing another one cool.
I remember working on one of these and it had the most convoluted procedure to reset the maintenance reminder. Wouldn't let you reset it with a scan tool either. They looks nice but I wouldn't own this past the warranty period, Alfa isn't exactly known for their long term reliability. Also hate that they only have 2 pedals in the US.
>>28198011>most convoluted procedure to reset the maintenance reminderNot if you've got the proper software and $30 worth of cables, which anyone owning or working on one of these should invest in. It's one of the most simple resets, in fact. Click "Service Interval Reset" and the menu on the right is what pops up.
>>28197927i could go wide in the rear but i like to keep the weight down as much as possible and I like how neutral square setups drive
>>28197969>zero reasondouble wishies combined with a shorter wheelbase makes the giulia handle so much nicer.there ya go
>>28198041understandable, 255s all around also keep tire costs reasonable, is the weight (3500lbs/1600kg) a issue for extended lapping with that size tire? i like to fit as wide as possible why i askiirc i remember reading its hard to fit anything wider than 255s up front
>>28198005I dont buy """"performance"""" cars which send power to the front wheels
>>28198066yeah 255 in the front is pretty much the limit without mods
>>28198120yeah but your average idiot can push a m3p harder than a camaro making it faster in practice and a camaro has more sovl than anything german or evit would look something like this videohttps://youtu.be/HiWVkLlQelI
>>28198066>is the weight an issue?no, I just like it that way. I’m closer to 3340lbs/1525kg after around 163lbs/74kg of weight reduction
>>28198307That's actually pretty damn good. A Evo/STi is on average 3200lbs without weight reduction. It sounds like you have the same p2w as a E46 M3.What did you do for tuning? I know it's usually flash tunes. Does the tune raise the redline? I know the redline on these cars is absurdly low factory like 5700rpms but it's because the turbo is tiny and runs out of its efficiency range quickly.
>>28197252>>28197259oh wtfthat makes it even more patheticimagine how insecure in your car you have to be to shill it on a silesian DIY fishing lure forumoh and>auto
>>28198391wheres your track cari think its fucking cool you gigantic faggot
>>28198009>Once you learn to smoothly roll off the brake as you stop and you'll be doing chauffer-smooth stops in no time.Wrong. It's programmed to grab as you come to a stop, so there's no true "champagne stop". Even if you do manage to come to a complete stop without any suspension rebound (not even possible every time) it's still noticeably less smooth than it would be in any car with normal brakes. You either are just pretending it's not that bad or you have low standards for a champagne stop. Not to mention how annoying it is to have to deal with it (if you actually care enough to stop smoothly). This is an FCA thing btw, but the Alfas are the worst about it. Plenty of manufacturers have brake by wire that isn't this shit, FCA just forced the low-speed grab since they were getting hit with huge environmental impact taxes.
>>28195229Might be a nice car with all the modern shit stripped out.
>>28195427zf6 is great lol wtf are you on about
>>28195268miss my au's i sidegraded to FG's which are basically newer bizzaro AU's my fg2 has double the k's of my fg1 and i cant tell the difference loldidnt like the issues the b series had/have especially with their electrics autos interiors and engines
>>28198307>no, I just like it that way. I’m closer to 3340lbs/1525kg after around 163lbs/74kg of weight reductiondamn i have over 200kg of shit of tools tyres at all times in the boots lol got stick of having to call my poor mum every time i had a flat
>>28198453>FG>sidegrade from an AU???it's better in almost every single way
you guys must really hate cars
>>28198298Yes that computerized AWD will always be superior to maintain grip on a road like that ... like you said, the average idiot can drive it easily.... but that is not necessarily what car enthusiasts find fun... there is purity in rear wheels for power and front wheels for turning
>>28195229It’s shitalian built though, this is the kinda shit you only lease and you’d better hope there’s a dealer in your city.No thanks.
>>28198009I had a 235i with an LSD and everything. I hated it after awhile:>soulless steering>maccas>drove like a 4 door sedan, but only had the practicality of a 2 door>manual transmission at least, but the clutch delay valve was a retarded addition, and the flywheel is way too heavy
>>28198946Rookie mistake. Shoulda got an E92 335i kek
>>28198948I should've gotten a 228i in manual, probably. Steering still would've sucked though.
>>28198953Why would you get another shitty narb with eps instead of the last amazing 3 Series? Bizarre.
>>28197252>>28197240Small wheels make the car look better, is actually the only reason /o/ likes it so much, even if nobody is aware of it.
>>28195229>no manualPASS
>>28198473they are much much heavier, the blade irs is meh the diff bush issue sucks vs live axle no wagon option either (besides the territory)
>>28195393/thread
>>28195393damn he angry af
>>28198391my nvidia upscaling goes bananas on this video
>>28195229Forgot the best part:NO SHITSCREEN IPADS
>>28200115I think it’s funny that there’s a car in 2024+1 that checks most boxes but /o/ still needs to complain
